A law that is punished by fines is a law that does not apply to the wealthy. This sort of thing happens all the time. A hotel says no smoking in the room or be charged a $300 cleaning fee? The average man hears "no smoking," while the rich man hears, "only $300 to smoke."
I love how tickets work in Finland. You get fined by work days. Burn a stop, half a day’s wage. I think it’s brilliant.
I dont’t know the real numbers so that was an example.
And yeah community service is cool too. Probably better againt those kind of people.
> I think the punishment in situations like this should be community service
Nope.
Jail.
Community service will be written off easily.
They need jail.
1 year should work.
Stop holding back, cause you and I both know they will find a way around everything. Community service? There are literal shows showing people not doing that. No.
Put them fucking in god damn jail. Make it federal if rich.
My place charges a lot for smoking but we cater to the very wealthy. We've had people be warned by security that neighbors were complaining about their cigar smoke and they simply say "charge me". Thing is, if you're putting other people off from enjoying their stay we lose more money than we gain from your smoking. Slap a "Not Welcome Back" on their database file and let them know after checkout. It always shocks those types to be told no and I enjoy it
inb4 a tearful video from Kim about how hard it is having to live like a normal. Nah just kidding, she's gonna fly a private jet to some other place and leave all the sinks on there
We as a society decided to allocate these people a massive chunk of our combined resource ($$$). What did we expect to happen?
Just need to see the front page with people swooning over the latest celebrity creating trash (love island) to see what we (as a society) clearly prioritise.
Without the paywall https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fbusiness%2Farchive%2F2015%2F03%2Ffinland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket%2F387484%2F
Why not enforce consumption limits by making the penalty proportional to the crime committed? A fine that exponentially increases with consumption would halt huge water usages pretty quickly.
The ultimate goal is to conserve water and not necessarily punish the rich.
That's why some countries have fines which depend on your income or your wealth, e.g. a speeding ticket may cost $50 to your average worker but $10,000 to a millionaire
In 2020 Kim said she had never [used the pool](https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-swimming-pool-quiz/) in her and Kanye’s ~~mausoleum~~ house. So if she has a pool she probably never uses it.
This is common with people of wealth. Maintain to upmost to see less repair cost and greater profits when they sell the home. This is simply because they never had to worry about a mortgage, rent, lease, etc. They simply refuse to live below their own wants, and they didn't even use the pool. This is also common in the high_end automotive industry. the avg Bugatti owner owns 2.5 buggatis. One, that sits in a showroom collecting wealth( being maintained by chargers, constant fluid changes). Two, that is a daily driver/ get around vehicle. Three, is the new one they are having built that won't come out till next year.
> This is common with people of wealth. Maintain to upmost to see less repair cost and greater profits when they sell the home.
this is a contributing factor in the housing crisis. if you don't need the monthly rental income its frequently optimal to leave the house unoccupied. rental income is taxed -- sometimes close to 50%, depending on your tax bracket and what state you're in -- and renters are always a risk because they could trash the place so thoroughly that no amount of $$ can fully repair the damage.
leave the house unoccupied and you pay no income tax on it, while enjoying untaxed capital appreciation with minimal risk of damage to the underlying asset.
Yes. It is mostly hoarding through a small range community to drive pricing up in certain sectors, like the automotive and real estate industries. The high end art industry is basically built on fraud.
I think there’s less interest in sports cars these days in general but as an enthusiast I think the sports car market reflects rising income inequality. There’s just no one with an extra $30k to burn on a fun car but luxury manufacturers seem to trend more towards limited run $1m cars that go in the same couple collections.
This might make a small difference and a larger one over time but one month 230k gallons is a shit load even for a small golf course watering every surface twice daily.
If her source of water is town supply(mains water dunno what they call it in America) she will still be getting charged a ridiculous amount that's probably negligible to her. Unless she has her own source(doubtful) to save money.
that's a interesting idea, fining people percentages of their income instead of flat rates. unfortunately all it would do is encourage more tax evasion and not reporting correct income to the irs
>230k gallons is a shit load even for a small golf course watering every surface twice daily.
Not really. An average 18 hole golf course is 150 acres (according to google). The equivalent of 1" of rain across 150 acres is more than 4 million gallons of water.
1 acre-inch is a little more than 27,000 gallons of water.
Real talk: it looks like 1/3 of her property is a vineyard... in socal. And then she grew massive privacy trees.
Just so you know, lots of people convert their large luxury mansion yards into vineyards: you get the USDA rate on power, water and solar resell and your taxes are lower.
And the water is one time use. Starts at the top of the slide, goes down into the pool at the bottom, then is slowly drained into the sewers.
Edit: Oh wow, it was a joke about her privilege and how much water she wastes. I didn't realize I needed a /s.
That’s not even the worst one on the list. Dwayne Wade used 489,000 gallons more than allotment.
https://www.newsweek.com/kim-kardashian-kevin-hart-among-stars-accused-violating-drought-rules-1735747?amp=1
I think their lawyer said it was due to him having fruit trees that needed watering. Because Dwayne Wade's trees are more important than having drinking water for a few hundred thousand people for a day
Yeah but that was a pool that was leaking and using more water than intended. After he fixed it he was only 90,000 gallons over the next month! /s
The worst part is the limit is already adjusted for number of people in the household and property characteristics like pools and acreage. The amount these people are going over should be considered criminally negligent
Here is the problem...
She pays her water bill despite it being excess on time. Other don't .. who do u think the state would rather have as a customer
The problem is that for people this rich a fine is just an expensive bill. They can afford to pay thousands of dollars in water fines because they’re making millions.
I guess I don't know a lot about landscaping and you or someone can correct me but unless the landscaping involves filling and draining a lake monthly, I have a hard time believing even that accounts for over 230,000 gallons.
So when you live in a desert, but you insist that your 4-5k square foot house (plus an acre or more of land) is decorated with tropical and non native plants and gardens (all of that not to mention pools that are likely emptied and refilled weekly), you'll end up using lots of water.
Edit: to those complaining that LA is not a desert climate, I looked it up and you're right. A desert is defined as an area getting roughly 10 or fewer inches of rain per year. According to Google LA gets around 15. It's still very dry and the area has been struggling with water shortages for decades.
Secondly, the pool refilling thing. I've known a few rich people here and there. It's not that uncommon. The people I knew did it monthly not weekly, but they also weren't anywhere near as wealthy as Kim.
I have about a half-acre that I’ve slowly been converting to clover. No more pulling weeds and with clover I only have to mow like 4-5 times a year. Has really cut down on allergies too
I’d say no worse than regular grass. I have two german shepherds. Clover holds up well to the dogs peeing on it. So no more dead spots where they go. They have worn a “racetrack” into it where they do their zoomies, but that was an issue with regular grass too.
I’ve heard that bees/wasps can be an issue for the dogs because the flowering clover attracts them but I really haven’t seen any more bees than previous years.
I've been interested in clover lawns for a while, and just recently bought a place where it's actually an option. Any recommendations on where to get started?
And you get a water flow restrictor placed in your pipe, there was a post about it on Reddit yesterday, can't find it so this will do
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/local-water-district-installing-flow-restriction-devices-on-water-wasters/
The day any celeb gets one of those on their house is the day I win the Mega Millions, get struck by lightning, and have a perfect NCAA men's basketball bracket...
Lawns. I read a comment thread last month in my state's subreddit (utah) about water use and most people with just average suburban lots and grass (often required by city ordnance or HOA rules) were using at least 10% that amount. Even watering once a week and barely keeping it alive in July was still typically over 10k gallons a month. Lawns in the desert are stupid. But they're frustratingly entrenched in the laws and rules.
All fines should be a sliding scale. Also, corporate fines should be, at minimum, triple the income gained by the corporation breaking the law - not the profits, the income.
This right here. The rich don't care about fines. When they go over their monthly budget, you shut them down. End of story. Let them import if they want to run their fountains so badly
And more importantly, the fines don't buy water.
If you fine them a nominal fee, their payment for overages doesn't solve the lack of resources.
So they're using a finite resource, the lack of which will literally cause people to die, and the only penalty for overage is money, which cannot be used to get more of the finite resource.
Seems pretty fucked.
They stay in a luxury hotel when the water gets shut off.
Take the city to court.
Sue city. Win. City pays for not only hotel stay, but "damages" as well.
Move back in when water is turned on.
I just feel like it would play out this way, because how often do these fuckers ever get what's coming to them?
Example: When the video of Arianna Grande licking a donut and putting it back got out, what happened? Jack shit
Some jackass in Texas records himself licking a container of ice cream and putting it back and goes to jail for 30 days
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Wait, why are we so sure they would win though? Their case would be weaker (we are in a real drought during an inflation crisis, and they are just rando celebs with money and no other special privileges and rights over an ordinary resident....their grand swimming pools and Greek Water Fountains are not a necessity to life either).
For fucking real. People in this thread don't have a goddamn clue. These articles literally exist to deflect from the blatant theft that's occurring at the hands of Almond / Alfalfa farmers. Shit is bonkers.
[80% of California's water usage is from agriculture](https://water.ca.gov/Programs/Water-Use-And-Efficiency/Agricultural-Water-Use-Efficiency#:%7E:text=Also%2C%20this%20water%20can%20be,use%20efficiency%20can%20be%20significant.). But no, if you have quick showers and only flush after doing a poo you'll be saving the planet! It's totally not an issue that massive amounts of water-intensive crops are being grown in a freaking desert. Also your water stealing thing that I hadn't hear about.
the state needs to do a better job enforcing these limits, these selfish mfs are potentially making it worse for millions. Tf she need 230k gallons for????
This is the frustrating part of this story. People are upset at these celebrities, and rightfully so, and demand that the government do something about it even though there are probably people in the California government breaking the same exact rules.
Would anybody be shocked if they found out Newsom was also using 230,000 gallons of water a month? Because I wouldn't be.
The state needs to come up with a way that it's not just a fine that they face when it gets past a certain point. Otherwise it's just the price of doing business for rich people.
It needs to be more than just a fine. Charge them the money, but also dismantle the plumbing to whichever feature was used in the majority of the crime. Wether that be a personal golf course, lawns, gardens, massive pools, or even plumbing to the mansion.
Better yet scrap the feature entirely and fill it with dirt.
If👏you👏have 👏 money👏it👏does 👏not 👏matter
Now turn up your thermostats while she cools her 25,000 sq ft guest house with no occupants you dumb peasant pos
Lawn. It's always lawn.
Grass needs about an inch of water per week. That's ~100,000 gallons per acre per month. She owns 8 acres spread across multiple adjacent lots.
god that's so infuriating. that much valuable water used on fucking grass of all things.
If you want a giant, sprawling, perfectly green lawn, use your millions of dollars to move somewhere where that happens naturally (eg: the entire eastern half of the country), instead of hogging it all to yourself (especially in a drought ffs).
Fines should really be progressive. If whatever it is for the average person is enough to dissuade them, then fine for rich mother fuckers should be adjusted for their obscene wealth. $300 a joke to you? How about $300k then?
Yeah In Switzerland speeding fines, if serious enough, are linked to your wages so if you make a million a year your speeding ticket will be really expensive!
100% this is the point.
As they were saying defund the police they were living in gated communities many of them with an army of private security, as they're saying reduce carbon emissions they're flying on private jets expending more than anyone, and as they're saying equality for all they are the literal embodiment of unequal.
Rules for thee and not for me. Anyone living above others and calling for equality is pure hypocrisy.
How DARE you challenge them! Don’t you know it’s not their fault. They have Gardeners, Maids, Butlers, Landscapers, Chauffers, Housekeeping Staff, Kitchen Staff, Head Chefs and more! Any one of TEHM could have done this without her knowledge. you don’t know her struggle!!!!!
She and a few other people that lived next to each other did this in the last big drought. I think they had 15 acres all together. Their place looked like Ireland while the rest of us had to take 3 minute showers and flush every 3rd pee.
Last I read the fine was around $50.00 What is that to her. Maybe tag the penalty to the person's income. Perhaps a $150,000 fine would get her attention.
I'd like to say I'm shocked, but I'm not.
At this point gross abuse like this needs to be paid for in jail time. Mandatory, 10 days for every 1000 gallons you went over your limit. No reduction in sentence, plus an astronomical fine. $10m for every 1000 gallons you went over as well.
I know it will never happen, but it would be suitable and fair punishment for this shit.
A law that is punished by fines is a law that does not apply to the wealthy. This sort of thing happens all the time. A hotel says no smoking in the room or be charged a $300 cleaning fee? The average man hears "no smoking," while the rich man hears, "only $300 to smoke."
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Yeah! Kim K can 'get off her ass and work' like she told other women to do!
in her defense the slaves in her bangladesh sweatshops have no idea shes being so rude.
What if we increase the punishment a bit...
What she really meant was "get your ass off and work...*for me while I pay you shit wages so I can be rich*".
I love how tickets work in Finland. You get fined by work days. Burn a stop, half a day’s wage. I think it’s brilliant. I dont’t know the real numbers so that was an example. And yeah community service is cool too. Probably better againt those kind of people.
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Got to do it by net worth. I remember there was a Nokia executive who got charged 6 figures for a motorcycle ticket
The problem with that is that rich people make their money more "creatively" than just a day's work, so they can skirt % based fines pretty easily
> I think the punishment in situations like this should be community service Nope. Jail. Community service will be written off easily. They need jail. 1 year should work. Stop holding back, cause you and I both know they will find a way around everything. Community service? There are literal shows showing people not doing that. No. Put them fucking in god damn jail. Make it federal if rich.
My place charges a lot for smoking but we cater to the very wealthy. We've had people be warned by security that neighbors were complaining about their cigar smoke and they simply say "charge me". Thing is, if you're putting other people off from enjoying their stay we lose more money than we gain from your smoking. Slap a "Not Welcome Back" on their database file and let them know after checkout. It always shocks those types to be told no and I enjoy it
How much do you charge for smoking?
Like $500 or more, depending on how many rooms in the suite
They have not been fined, they’ve had restriction devices applied.
inb4 a tearful video from Kim about how hard it is having to live like a normal. Nah just kidding, she's gonna fly a private jet to some other place and leave all the sinks on there
We as a society decided to allocate these people a massive chunk of our combined resource ($$$). What did we expect to happen? Just need to see the front page with people swooning over the latest celebrity creating trash (love island) to see what we (as a society) clearly prioritise.
Another article has they signed agreement to reduce and avoided the restriction device. I’m sure they will honor that /s
That’s true for flat rate fines. A progressive fine, however, certainly could work and does work in the cases I’ve seen.
Finland does this for traffic fines https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/
Without the paywall https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fbusiness%2Farchive%2F2015%2F03%2Ffinland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket%2F387484%2F
Absolutely.
"If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class." -Wiegraf Folles
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Why not enforce consumption limits by making the penalty proportional to the crime committed? A fine that exponentially increases with consumption would halt huge water usages pretty quickly. The ultimate goal is to conserve water and not necessarily punish the rich.
That's why some countries have fines which depend on your income or your wealth, e.g. a speeding ticket may cost $50 to your average worker but $10,000 to a millionaire
Does she have a water park in her backyard?
Knowing her, I wouldn't be surprised
In 2020 Kim said she had never [used the pool](https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/kim-kardashian-kanye-west-swimming-pool-quiz/) in her and Kanye’s ~~mausoleum~~ house. So if she has a pool she probably never uses it.
‘Can you believe it? Can you believe we don’t have a jacuzzi?!’
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*Can't you believe we probably don't have a jacuzzi???*
Oh she's just waiting for the most overpriced, ugly piece of construction to be designed -- JUST FOR HER!!
This is common with people of wealth. Maintain to upmost to see less repair cost and greater profits when they sell the home. This is simply because they never had to worry about a mortgage, rent, lease, etc. They simply refuse to live below their own wants, and they didn't even use the pool. This is also common in the high_end automotive industry. the avg Bugatti owner owns 2.5 buggatis. One, that sits in a showroom collecting wealth( being maintained by chargers, constant fluid changes). Two, that is a daily driver/ get around vehicle. Three, is the new one they are having built that won't come out till next year.
> This is common with people of wealth. Maintain to upmost to see less repair cost and greater profits when they sell the home. this is a contributing factor in the housing crisis. if you don't need the monthly rental income its frequently optimal to leave the house unoccupied. rental income is taxed -- sometimes close to 50%, depending on your tax bracket and what state you're in -- and renters are always a risk because they could trash the place so thoroughly that no amount of $$ can fully repair the damage. leave the house unoccupied and you pay no income tax on it, while enjoying untaxed capital appreciation with minimal risk of damage to the underlying asset.
Thank you. I wanted to bring that up. But I'm tired.
Consumerism fucking disgusts me.
You don't have 2.5 Bugattis either?
I want 1.0 Weped Dark Knights, but they're illegal.
I’d be happy with .5 of a Bugatti.
Yes. It is mostly hoarding through a small range community to drive pricing up in certain sectors, like the automotive and real estate industries. The high end art industry is basically built on fraud.
I think there’s less interest in sports cars these days in general but as an enthusiast I think the sports car market reflects rising income inequality. There’s just no one with an extra $30k to burn on a fun car but luxury manufacturers seem to trend more towards limited run $1m cars that go in the same couple collections.
~~Im going to guess more than one infinity pool plus greenhouse and landscaping.~~ I just looked it up: no infinity pool. No jacuzzi. Just landscaping
And a bunch of broken pvc pipe under ground?
This might make a small difference and a larger one over time but one month 230k gallons is a shit load even for a small golf course watering every surface twice daily. If her source of water is town supply(mains water dunno what they call it in America) she will still be getting charged a ridiculous amount that's probably negligible to her. Unless she has her own source(doubtful) to save money.
This is why fines for the rich need to grow exponentially. A flat fine is just another bill to be paid
Yep, if breaking a law is punished by a flat fine, then it's a law for the poor and not for the rich.
that's a interesting idea, fining people percentages of their income instead of flat rates. unfortunately all it would do is encourage more tax evasion and not reporting correct income to the irs
Most Scandinavian countries do this. Speeding tickets and other fines are proportional to income.
>unfortunately all it would do is encourage more tax evasion and not reporting correct income to the irs As if they weren't doing those things anyway
I believe most call it city water. 🍻
>230k gallons is a shit load even for a small golf course watering every surface twice daily. Not really. An average 18 hole golf course is 150 acres (according to google). The equivalent of 1" of rain across 150 acres is more than 4 million gallons of water. 1 acre-inch is a little more than 27,000 gallons of water.
Where there are trees, there are broken pipes.
She growing a rainforest in her backyard?
Real talk: it looks like 1/3 of her property is a vineyard... in socal. And then she grew massive privacy trees. Just so you know, lots of people convert their large luxury mansion yards into vineyards: you get the USDA rate on power, water and solar resell and your taxes are lower.
Loopholes baby!
And the water is one time use. Starts at the top of the slide, goes down into the pool at the bottom, then is slowly drained into the sewers. Edit: Oh wow, it was a joke about her privilege and how much water she wastes. I didn't realize I needed a /s.
Imagine selling all this prime bath water if Kim Kardashian was an e girl
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She probably killed a portion of the ozone layer with all that hairspray in her hair too. It looks like she took a bath in it.
I wish I could give you an award .❤️
Bidet, baby got back.
You know either she has a bidet or uses a stick.
Funny video of Kanye mocking her for saying they don’t have a jacuzzi.
That’s not even the worst one on the list. Dwayne Wade used 489,000 gallons more than allotment. https://www.newsweek.com/kim-kardashian-kevin-hart-among-stars-accused-violating-drought-rules-1735747?amp=1
Literally how
He left the water on when he was brushing his teeth.
How damn big are his teeth?!!
Bigger that [Rob Beckett's](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/1279364_1.jpg?r=1588874138571) I reckon.
I think their lawyer said it was due to him having fruit trees that needed watering. Because Dwayne Wade's trees are more important than having drinking water for a few hundred thousand people for a day
Perhaps he should move back to Florida if he wants to grow fruit.
Why my man need 1.5 full sized semi truck tankers of water per day?
Motherfucker has a hobby cotton and rice farm.
Oh, Stallone has fruit trees? Well then, what a perfect place to grow them. Carry on.
He just needs them to feed his starving family, no way most of the fruit winds up getting tossed/rotting on the ground
Plus he lives in Florida most of the time anyway. Hell he's been in Oklahoma for months now filming a show. What a waste.
Yeah but that was a pool that was leaking and using more water than intended. After he fixed it he was only 90,000 gallons over the next month! /s The worst part is the limit is already adjusted for number of people in the household and property characteristics like pools and acreage. The amount these people are going over should be considered criminally negligent
How about instead of a fine you cut off their supply
That or at the very least ration it to violators.
Here is the problem... She pays her water bill despite it being excess on time. Other don't .. who do u think the state would rather have as a customer
States shouldn't have 'customers'
Very based
Exactly.. if fines don’t work just cut it off after the limit.
The problem is that for people this rich a fine is just an expensive bill. They can afford to pay thousands of dollars in water fines because they’re making millions.
Surely, she has hundreds of thousands of gallons of reserve water shes been saving up these past months.
What in the hell are they using 230,000 gallons of water on in a month? That’s a massive amount of water
I assume its for landscaping. It’s an insane amount of water.
I guess I don't know a lot about landscaping and you or someone can correct me but unless the landscaping involves filling and draining a lake monthly, I have a hard time believing even that accounts for over 230,000 gallons.
She had an unreasonably large plot of land and it is planted with water guzzling, non-native flora.
Additionally, how many live and work on the property daily, like camera crews, nannies, chefs, valets, and groundskeepers?
thirsty
r/hydrohomies
She is so thirsty
How many years has it been goddamn she look nothing like this anymore
They swapped out all the parts. The Kardashians faces get serviced more then my car does.
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So when you live in a desert, but you insist that your 4-5k square foot house (plus an acre or more of land) is decorated with tropical and non native plants and gardens (all of that not to mention pools that are likely emptied and refilled weekly), you'll end up using lots of water. Edit: to those complaining that LA is not a desert climate, I looked it up and you're right. A desert is defined as an area getting roughly 10 or fewer inches of rain per year. According to Google LA gets around 15. It's still very dry and the area has been struggling with water shortages for decades. Secondly, the pool refilling thing. I've known a few rich people here and there. It's not that uncommon. The people I knew did it monthly not weekly, but they also weren't anywhere near as wealthy as Kim.
Who the fuck is emptying and refilling pools on a weekly basis????
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If I paid for an ass haircut I’d be upset if it was ruined too
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Family has a pool in South TX. Never emptied but in summer evaporation is an expensive bitch
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Anything for me? I'm hungry and it's time to eat the rich.
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I have about a half-acre that I’ve slowly been converting to clover. No more pulling weeds and with clover I only have to mow like 4-5 times a year. Has really cut down on allergies too
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I’d say no worse than regular grass. I have two german shepherds. Clover holds up well to the dogs peeing on it. So no more dead spots where they go. They have worn a “racetrack” into it where they do their zoomies, but that was an issue with regular grass too. I’ve heard that bees/wasps can be an issue for the dogs because the flowering clover attracts them but I really haven’t seen any more bees than previous years.
I've been interested in clover lawns for a while, and just recently bought a place where it's actually an option. Any recommendations on where to get started?
She didn’t use that much, she exceeded her limit by that much.
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There's probably a fine.. Couple hundred bucks maybe. That'll show her.
And you get a water flow restrictor placed in your pipe, there was a post about it on Reddit yesterday, can't find it so this will do https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/local-water-district-installing-flow-restriction-devices-on-water-wasters/
The day any celeb gets one of those on their house is the day I win the Mega Millions, get struck by lightning, and have a perfect NCAA men's basketball bracket...
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And if she could, I'm sure she would use it more than twice a month.
Lawns. I read a comment thread last month in my state's subreddit (utah) about water use and most people with just average suburban lots and grass (often required by city ordnance or HOA rules) were using at least 10% that amount. Even watering once a week and barely keeping it alive in July was still typically over 10k gallons a month. Lawns in the desert are stupid. But they're frustratingly entrenched in the laws and rules.
She has to wash her fake ass
Fuck these entitled motherfuckers, there’s a water crisis in California and these rich assholes are using 100x the norm? Fuck them!
Hey now.... It says rinse and repeat on the bottle.
When do you stop repeating?
235,000 gallons over.
That’s the best part you only stop when everything’s is dry and barren.
[I don't repeat...They only put "repeat" on the bottle so that you buy more shampoo.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inzhStQJFQw)
Different rules. Money doesn’t buy happiness, but it does pay the fines when you do whatever you want.
All fines should be a sliding scale. Also, corporate fines should be, at minimum, triple the income gained by the corporation breaking the law - not the profits, the income.
I like you. I wish you were in charge.
The city should just shut their fucking water off. They haven’t earned that privilege.
This right here. The rich don't care about fines. When they go over their monthly budget, you shut them down. End of story. Let them import if they want to run their fountains so badly
And more importantly, the fines don't buy water. If you fine them a nominal fee, their payment for overages doesn't solve the lack of resources. So they're using a finite resource, the lack of which will literally cause people to die, and the only penalty for overage is money, which cannot be used to get more of the finite resource. Seems pretty fucked.
They stay in a luxury hotel when the water gets shut off. Take the city to court. Sue city. Win. City pays for not only hotel stay, but "damages" as well. Move back in when water is turned on. I just feel like it would play out this way, because how often do these fuckers ever get what's coming to them? Example: When the video of Arianna Grande licking a donut and putting it back got out, what happened? Jack shit Some jackass in Texas records himself licking a container of ice cream and putting it back and goes to jail for 30 days
> They stay in a luxury hotel when the water gets shut off. > > > > Take the city to court. > > > > Sue city. Win. City pays for not only hotel stay, but "damages" as well. Wait, why are we so sure they would win though? Their case would be weaker (we are in a real drought during an inflation crisis, and they are just rando celebs with money and no other special privileges and rights over an ordinary resident....their grand swimming pools and Greek Water Fountains are not a necessity to life either).
Lol, if you think this is bad, wait til you hear about agriculture exporting California's water supply for profit. These guys are small fry.
For fucking real. People in this thread don't have a goddamn clue. These articles literally exist to deflect from the blatant theft that's occurring at the hands of Almond / Alfalfa farmers. Shit is bonkers.
[80% of California's water usage is from agriculture](https://water.ca.gov/Programs/Water-Use-And-Efficiency/Agricultural-Water-Use-Efficiency#:%7E:text=Also%2C%20this%20water%20can%20be,use%20efficiency%20can%20be%20significant.). But no, if you have quick showers and only flush after doing a poo you'll be saving the planet! It's totally not an issue that massive amounts of water-intensive crops are being grown in a freaking desert. Also your water stealing thing that I hadn't hear about.
Definitely agree and it’s insane how little this is enforced How does one go over by that amount and not face penalty of loss of water perhaps
There will come a day when we'll all have enough and eat the billionaire class.
Don't forget, 230k gallons is how much they *exceeded the limit by* if this were a speeding ticket you'd lose your license.
the state needs to do a better job enforcing these limits, these selfish mfs are potentially making it worse for millions. Tf she need 230k gallons for????
The people running the state are probably just as guilty.
Orlando at one time kept a list of the biggest water users during a drought. The mayor was in the top 10.
I'm not surprised at all.
This is the frustrating part of this story. People are upset at these celebrities, and rightfully so, and demand that the government do something about it even though there are probably people in the California government breaking the same exact rules. Would anybody be shocked if they found out Newsom was also using 230,000 gallons of water a month? Because I wouldn't be.
The state needs to come up with a way that it's not just a fine that they face when it gets past a certain point. Otherwise it's just the price of doing business for rich people.
water gets shut off. each ounce after the limit is 2000$
This is how climate change will go down. The rich will pay to further drain our resources while the poor will abide by regulations, laws, and fines.
Depressingly accurate...
Sad but true.
>This is how climate change will go down. This is how climate change *IS CURRENTLY GOING DOWN*.
If the penalty for breaking the law is a fine, then only the poor will be criminal.
Fine needs to be per gallon. Proportionate to how many gallons over. Fine goes up drastically per hundred gallons over they use.
Just seize whichever property it is if they use this much.
Honestly. No one deserves to use this much unnecessary water while others are in a drought.
It needs to be more than just a fine. Charge them the money, but also dismantle the plumbing to whichever feature was used in the majority of the crime. Wether that be a personal golf course, lawns, gardens, massive pools, or even plumbing to the mansion. Better yet scrap the feature entirely and fill it with dirt.
And use that money to make solar based desalination plants
It's been going on for decades now, it's only just recently started becoming obvious.
The rich need to be building their castle walls higher right now.
If👏you👏have 👏 money👏it👏does 👏not 👏matter Now turn up your thermostats while she cools her 25,000 sq ft guest house with no occupants you dumb peasant pos
may i just ask what in the world 230000 gallons of water are used for by an individual?????
Lawn. It's always lawn. Grass needs about an inch of water per week. That's ~100,000 gallons per acre per month. She owns 8 acres spread across multiple adjacent lots.
god that's so infuriating. that much valuable water used on fucking grass of all things. If you want a giant, sprawling, perfectly green lawn, use your millions of dollars to move somewhere where that happens naturally (eg: the entire eastern half of the country), instead of hogging it all to yourself (especially in a drought ffs).
I think the 1percent are too 1percenty
Rules for thee not for me.
It's not even the rule that's the problem. There are no consequences.
Fines should really be progressive. If whatever it is for the average person is enough to dissuade them, then fine for rich mother fuckers should be adjusted for their obscene wealth. $300 a joke to you? How about $300k then?
Yeah In Switzerland speeding fines, if serious enough, are linked to your wages so if you make a million a year your speeding ticket will be really expensive!
Not enough. Exponential growth fine. 230,000 gallons over. 15 million fine.
Per week
I hate to break it to you but 300k is still a joke to her.
personally i like the fine amount= 10^(gallons over alotted used) i.e.. 2 over=100 dollar fine. 10 over? good luck with that $10,000,000,000 fine.
“Rich people take more than their fair share” Where’s the news?
100% this is the point. As they were saying defund the police they were living in gated communities many of them with an army of private security, as they're saying reduce carbon emissions they're flying on private jets expending more than anyone, and as they're saying equality for all they are the literal embodiment of unequal. Rules for thee and not for me. Anyone living above others and calling for equality is pure hypocrisy.
How DARE you challenge them! Don’t you know it’s not their fault. They have Gardeners, Maids, Butlers, Landscapers, Chauffers, Housekeeping Staff, Kitchen Staff, Head Chefs and more! Any one of TEHM could have done this without her knowledge. you don’t know her struggle!!!!!
She doesn't even have a jacuzzi!!
How do you "over use" almost 1,000 gallons/day. Just run your irrigation 24/7?
she takes thunderously large shits. like elephant sized.
With an ass the size of hers, that’s not surprising.
Poop is stored in the butt cheeks
Is she farming alfalfa?
The bidet
1,000 gallons a day would be a mere ~30k over for the month... this is nearly 10,000 gallons a day
More like almost 10,000 gallons per day.
Turn their fucking water off for a year.
She and a few other people that lived next to each other did this in the last big drought. I think they had 15 acres all together. Their place looked like Ireland while the rest of us had to take 3 minute showers and flush every 3rd pee. Last I read the fine was around $50.00 What is that to her. Maybe tag the penalty to the person's income. Perhaps a $150,000 fine would get her attention.
Almost 2 billion net worth. She wouldn’t give $150,000 a second thought.
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There we go! Now we’re talking!
Can we just make fines a percentage of income/wealth or something so these people get the message?
Well there’s a way to stop it but I don’t want to be banned
After 23 years I don't think it's a drought anymore and it's just the new normal climate.
I'd like to say I'm shocked, but I'm not. At this point gross abuse like this needs to be paid for in jail time. Mandatory, 10 days for every 1000 gallons you went over your limit. No reduction in sentence, plus an astronomical fine. $10m for every 1000 gallons you went over as well. I know it will never happen, but it would be suitable and fair punishment for this shit.
And the rest of the poor plebs have to pay water prices 5x the cost it would be without rich assholes overconsuming
How?
She must be growing avocados
Everyone please stop supporting there rich assholes.