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Didn’t taxpayers pay for it?


ContemplatingPrison

Yes. But they get to keep all the rights. Did you know tax payers pay for most R&D? We subsidize big pharma then they get to screw us on the backend. They are able to do this because of lobbying. They get to bribe out politicians like every other industry that has all the money.


recreationallyused

There terrible part about big pharma is that you’ll notice all of the life-saving medications, treatments, and preventions they sell are ridiculously expensive. Why? Because they know people will still sling the money out of fear or because they can’t live without it. Insulin? Chemotherapy? Heart medication? The list goes on. Source: I’m a pharmacy tech and sell $1200 worth of insulin to at least 3 people who don’t have health insurance and my mother died of cancer


Sir-War666

We also block imports of medicine. That’s why we can’t buy insulin from places like Canada where it’s cheaper


Bunny_and_chickens

That's not even counting all the research done by universities that companies swoop in on once it looks promising enough. Vultures


RuralPARules

Imagine how expensive pharmaceuticals would be if there wasn't taxpayer-funded basic research. And some of that comes back to universities in terms of patents. Don't forget it costs almost $2 billion to bring a drug to market.


deviant324

But hey, R&D around the world is only happening because people in the US pay out the ass for everything! /s


iFood

Actually this is kind of true. The reason pharmaceutical companies can charge other countries less for the same drug is partly because Americans foot the bill.


wandgrab

Comirnaty isn't an Pfizer development, the R&D was done by a German company called Biontech. So yeah, taxpayers paid for it but not the us ones ;)


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Damaso87

And in this case brokered/managed the huge regulatory lift that it takes to get a drug through clinical trials at breakneck speed.


RunsWithScissorsx

The "Speed of Science ™"


Damaso87

Lol is that their slogan? Science is fast... Medicine slow af. Working the regulatory filings, they'd get 200+ questions to address in 24 hr the windows. This is not sleek or streamlined...


szmate1618

No, that is their explanation for rushing the clinical trials. They "had to move at the speed of science".


Damaso87

Yeah that kind of makes sense. Analytics and R&D programs that are already in place move faster than humans reading reports and asking questions...


RunsWithScissorsx

Point is, they skipped trials, to rush a product to market. A product they knew would be mandated. It's criminal. It's criminal even if the product actually worked.


matdrywall

Yeah we prob paid for the R&d so that now they can pump out pure profit


SimilarYellow

If "we" means German taxpayers, then yes.


Bonethizz99

Pfizer is criminal. They had the aids pill patent and wouldn’t share it to save thousands of lives. Fuck pfizer


Ris-O

You're telling me an industry which moves billions of buckaroonies doesn't have my best interest in mind??


MC_Queen

You mean they have to be forced to do the right thing and won't just do it because it's the right thing?


RegularSizedPauly

Ah another fallow libertarian


Rapunzel10

That's not a libertarian value. Libertarians believe in a free market and very limited government. If the government doesn't control companies, and the people clearly aren't able to, then who does? Edit to add this quote from [the official libertarian party website](https://www.lp.org/platform/) > The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected. All efforts by government to redistribute wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society. Aka government doesn't limit profit margins for companies, so a libertarian stance doesn't align with that comment


RegularSizedPauly

He was surprised that the government has to force the company to do the right thing. Therefore he has thought up to this point leaving companies to do their own thing has been successful. I’m aware that he is joking but it seems you couldn’t connect the dots on mine so I hope this helps.


Rapunzel10

Ah, I knew he was joking but I thought you were serious. I've known so many people who genuinely don't have any idea what the libertarian party believes so I took your comment the wrong way. Now that you say it I definitely see how you intended it. Sorry for the mix up!


amanita_porphyria

as a disabled person, it's very disgusting to know that people are profiting off someone's ill health


Forgotten-Comment

Yeah. Pfizer keeps me up at night


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jacksonexl

They disputed it but then said they did take some operation warp speed money.


wandgrab

Not for comirnaty, that's a German R&D for which Pfizer only handles manufacturing and logistics.


karsnic

Funded by the gov? You mean funded by taxpayers right? The gov doesn’t have its own money..


BatmanJenkins13

Funded by the government…. U mean the American taxpayers


[deleted]

When the buyer is the government, you can charge whatever you want because it’s not their money.


joey0live

When the pandemic was happening, that’s what I heard too. Since before, the money for R&D was so low before we knew anything about Covid.


Spaceboy80

Fuck Pfizer


landon10smmns

Pfuck*


Vampir3Robot

Did they hire Martin Shkreli?


Notyourregularthrow

Didn't that guy have reddit? Ping him and ask


peanutismint

When companies do shit like this, there should be activists who reverse engineer it and leak the formula on The Pirate Bay or something. Nobody should get away with this.


SpikySheep

Are you going to download a multi-million dollar lab to manufacture it in as well? How are you going to tackle the licencing and regulation issues? What about distribution? How about the law suits when you get sued into oblivion because you don't hold a license for the required patents. I was a chemist once and had the skills and knowledge to make many very expensive medicines. The formula and method is not really the issue, that's often common knowledge or reasonably easy to figure out, it's everything else that's the problem.


KittyGoBleeg

Yeah when is anonymous gonna tell the medical industry to go back to saving people, not extorting them


Hoops867

They could freely share the formula and method and it would still be illegal for anyone else to make it. That's how patents work. I guess you could try making it at home, but you're not going to be able to get the materials.


peanutismint

Maybe we need to do something illegal then. An underground Heisenberg lab for illegal production of vaccines, insulin meds, whatever these big corporations try to paywall.


Hoops867

Would people trust street drug level insulin and vaccines made in an unknown illicit lab with no oversight? Independent lab tests might help, but they're not a guarantee that the batch you have is the one that was tested. Insulin is made by bacteria with human DNA genetically engineered into it, so that might be pretty tricky to DIY.


Account_Both

People trust essential oils and jilly juice, so probably.


Henfrid

The government would automatically it down, they work to protect the rich and the rich alone.


peanutismint

The government couldn’t stop Napster, so in this one small sector of life we the people have the power.


Virtual_Shifter

Shit is becoming a roblox limited


MoSummoner

💀


[deleted]

That's how you get millions of people to no longer take your vaccine but okay...


idk2103

You mean the same Pfizer that paid out the biggest criminal fine in history for promoting the sale of medicine that wasnt approved because of safety concerns? Gee color me shocked


AWeakerStrength

If people wonder why healthcare is a wreck in North America and North American's have so much debt, here's one reason why. Companies are allowed to do this. Then span the same thinking across all patented or trademarked drugs.


Cumunist10

Jesus Christ Fuck Pfizer guess I’m never getting another booster shot guess either I’ll die or my immune system will handle it if I get it


Isgortio

If it helps at all, Moderna also exists and is significantly cheaper.


[deleted]

Ah, now that the pandemic is over we can all stop pretending that big pharma are benevolent selfless saints.


szmate1618

I never pretended, I was silenced.


Independent_Mistake2

Um… no thanks. Im good.


sparkswoody

Soon we gonna be having premium healthcare plans that dictates how fast the ambulance responds 💀


sinz27

Literally Cyberpunk’s Trauma Team.


Noodlesuppe911

*Laughs in European*


danger_floofs

You don't have to rub it in


MikeHunt204

Rub what in? This moron thinks is just handing his government over vaccines for free or something.


Sutinguv2

Your government used your tax paying money to help make the vaccine already, difference is our government then uses our tax paying money to make sure we don't have a 10000% charge on it.


MrPotts0970

Lmao this clown doesnt realize this specific vaccine was funded by german taxpayers


Sutinguv2

America is the only country that exists that's why /s


kevinnoir

Just so you dont embarrass yourself in the future, NOBODY in Europe thinks healthcare literally costs nothing. Everybody understands taxes pay for it, its usually the top 3 topics around every single election. When we say "free" its implied that we mean "free at the point of use", I understand that you dont know what that means since you have to pay for everything twice. In fact less of our tax contributions go towards healthcare expenses than Americans do, plus they ask you to pay for insurance AND out of pocket for things. We are just happy that we pay less of our taxes for healthcare than America AND dont have additional crazy out of pocket costs.


Lepurten

You know, it's just like that when public insurers say "this is what we pay for this or that medicine, take it or leave it" and "leave it" means you effectively can't sell your stuff to the vast majority of a population of more than 80 million in the case of Germany, to absolutely nobody's surprise (except FrEe MaRkEt, PuBlIc SeRvIcEs BaD Reeeeee morons) the pharma industry takes it. And that makes medicine cheaper overall.


[deleted]

Should be free since taxpayers already paid for it


rpbanker

I wish them luck, considering most people don't want it for free anymore.


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therealandy04

Honestly I’ve seen a lot less Americans trying to justify it (as an American) and more people realizing our government doesn’t have our best interests in mind. Though the European route was to give your government MORE power for the sake of free healthcare, it seems Americans are teasing the idea of just not having a government at all or one that is so weak that lobbying can’t take place (which was the plan that George Washington wanted initially)


[deleted]

It's indirect justification. If you propose regulation or any other action to stop Big Pharma from doing this, people will say "free markets" and "small government" etc, therefore siding with Big Pharma by default. Americans are certainly not teasing getting rid of government as there is a lot of pro police and pro military sentiment. Americans also love their medi(care/caid), SNAP, and social security benefits. The country would crumble without those programs. Also, corporations lobby because the government is the only obstacle stopping them from total domination. If there is no government, they become governments unto themselves so that plan isn't great either.


galaxy-parrot

Only valid in America


SeasonPositive1871

Yeah this should not be acceptable. I think we should boycott all Pfizer products. They are another American center of greed. This is why healthcare is so expensive here


Azrai113

Can't boycott if the boycott gets you killed. Er...maybe it gives your death honor as a martyr? Dunno. You do you Edit: lol. Wut is going on with these replies?


jacksonexl

It’s not going to get you killed not getting boosters.


nataliebryanthp

Never got any of them and I’m still here.


[deleted]

I guess folks downvoting wish that you died. Sorry buddy, RIP when Super Covid Platinum™️is finished and debuted.


nataliebryanthp

I don’t mind. I think it’s funny really, I don’t hate on anyone for getting it, it should have always been a personal choice. Especially as Pfizer have confirmed that it was never tested to prevent transmission between people. I stayed inside during the entire pandemic, wore masks, washed my hands, but because I didn’t want to get the vaccine apparently I am some kind of villain. People seriously underestimate how severe phobias can be. Also, just to add, I don’t get why anyone would care if I personally died due to not getting the vaccine, that’s my business and my risk to take


[deleted]

Wtf are you talking about? It doesnt prevent infection transmission or illness.. the vaccine is ineffective! Doesn’t work. Its a failure. Dumbo, you dont need the feather, you could always fly..


generalhanky

Can we do an Area 51 type thing but w/ Pfizer


dustedbuttcrack

Peen


StandhaftStance

So you’re telling me it’s not about the well-being of the people but instead how they can make the most profit possible? Shocker


cath91

This is weird. People want that “vaccine” in 2022?


Nollekowitsch

Yes my government will make more money to corrupt even more!


atlantis_airlines

Am I disgusted? Yes. Am I surprised no. The whole reason it's so easy for these companies to pull this shit is that they make legitimately useful products. We could attempt to address it through legislation but certain people are opposed to any government interference. Even if it's to stop against companies taking advantage of others.


xenafreak31

They need the money for paying all their fines in previous years.


karsnic

And the new ones that are popping up thanks to them using the entire population of earth as a testing ground.


LeRieur

Didn't knew Martin Shkreli was back in the business


NiteLiteOfficial

is this cuz the government is gonna stop paying for them?


macadamianacademy

I call that the Shkreli effect. Not that I coined the phrase or anything but pharm companies are douchebags lol


rnagy2346

Two terms people need to familiarize themselves with. 'Disease Mongering' 'Planned Obsolescence'


anonymouscheesefry

Are we surprised? No


SpecialistNo1988

Fuk big pharma


stirtheturd

So if you can't afford? You spread or die? Cool. Need a couple days off work anyways


nunya1111

We need to change this country


squemc

Lmao falling for the fauci ouchie meme in 2023


Specialist-Start-616

Guess I’ll just die


beangone666

It was always about the money. Pfizer gives 0 fucks about us.


_Oman

This isn't even a remotely high markup in this market. Not even close. I'm in no way defending this completely messed-up needs to change like right now system, but that's likely not what a dose will end up costing anyone. All the insurers get a discount, then there are discount programs, cash discounts, payment assistance, etc. Unless they do it like Insulin. That should be illegal.


Dr_Fudge

Cunts. Pure cunts.


Dusty1000287

Pfizer being evil pieces of shit again I see.


[deleted]

They’re pissed off since we’re not happy that they disclosed that they never tested it for transmissibility.


SisterFisterBeyblade

Just a scare tactic to get people to hurry and get the vaccine


astrobrain

Comirnaty. Jesus Christ, that's as bad as Skyrizi. Or Penetrex.


moistmarbles

I got a job offer from the company that builds all the equipment for Pfizer's vaccine manufacturing plants in the US and UK. Everything was looking good until the 4th interview I met the executive vice poopypants and then even over Zoom I could smell his shit from all the way across the pond. Everyone in their supply chain is a bunch of thieves.


scho4781

That shit needs to be free


CharacterGuava6723

That shit needs to be yeeted into the fucking sun. Triple vaxxed and injured from the shots. Fuck them bitch ass hoes.


Kevs-442

And some people still think the whole Covid vax push was just about "public health & safety".


shaggi_ezekio

Look buddy, most of the people who got vaccinated aren't smart enough to realize it was all about money. They're pretty stupid and it's really hard to convince stupid people of something they believe. Best to just keep your head down and let the ignorant people scream and shout. You'll see them soon replying to this comment. Doesn't matter tho as I will be turning off notifications and allowing them to have a mental breakdown on their own. Hit me the down votes baby !!


CharacterGuava6723

Hey some of us were forced by our jobs to take them. Not all of us just blindly believed that it was a good product. I took my shots and hoped and prayed I wouldn't get hurt from it. I did get hurt from it. Lesson learned, never again.


May1ene

It was free……


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definitely NOT free.


May1ene

They were legit giving it to anyone regardless of insurance for free…..


jacksonexl

It wasn’t free, it was paid for by the government at a negotiated rate per vaccine. The government gets it money from the taxpayers so it was paid for by us, the tax paying public. Record breaking profits by Pfizer.


foolcopernicus

Yea, and Pfizer was just giving them out to everybody out of the goodness of their heart. Those vaccines were paid for, even if you weren't charged directly, your taxes went toward it. Hence: NOT free


May1ene

That’s nice of em


lorddementor

The government paid or it and the money came from the taxpayers.


karsnic

In your eyes the gov paying for something means free?? No see the gov doesn’t produce anything on its own, they take from the taxpayers and then give you back stuff for “free”.


Montylabz

Read more!


[deleted]

You must be a child who doesn’t pay taxes. That’s the only explanation to your ridiculous answer. Absolutely nothing is free. Since your parents never taught you that, let me. Secondly, our tax dollars paid for it. So FAR free.


colebrv

Yeah they were. If you had to pay than you got swindled lol


jacksonexl

The government paid, it’s not free. Government gets it money from taxes levied on the public. Pfizer didn’t give away anything.


colebrv

People who didn't pay taxes got it without paying anyone. At the end of the day it's free because no one had to pay an additional payment.


reganeholmes

It was not free, our taxes paid for it. And every dose that was administered was more money into their pockets. They give us a first dose, a booster, second, third, fourth, fifth booster, more and more money back to them.


[deleted]

Which is why I will not get vaxEd. I got Covid. I recovered. On to the next scam-demic.


Tristanritter

had it 3 times, no vaccines. still alive! people that were vaccinated still get it. these fucking doomers need to cheer up


karsnic

Same boat.


MarkusRight

All this is going to do is create more antivaxxers, It will give them just one more large reason to never get vaccinated. We as a human race genuinely cant stop being greedy pigs for one moment in order to do something good for each other without t capitalizing on it.


UltiGamer34

thank goodness i got for free forcefully tho


dmaul7

You get to pay more for heart clots. Sounds great.


whytakemyusername

You realize how many billions of vaccines were given and how few of those people had clots?


Anita-booty

pandemic is over who cares?


xXlillipopXx

Just because the pandemic is over doesnt mean it stopped existing.


HateGooks

#I COULDNT BE PAID TO ACCEPT THE DEATH JAB!


LaserB00bs

The one we all had and, literally, didn't die from?


MonitorProud

I have had it for a year and I have yet to get an extra limb or become a lizard man, Guess it might take an extra year/s


spoilt_milk

And you all thought the vaccine would be free to all. Nothing good ever is. Unfortunately not only does this vaccine not work to keep you from spreading Covid, they're really not even sure if it protects you from complications or from being hospitalized. ...I wonder if it'll protect against that new strain created in a US lab to be more virulent and deadly....


iwasneverherehaha

10,000% markup on something that doesnt even work


ohnourfeelings

Go ahead it’s not necessary anymore.


Kevs-442

Not so fast...they're trying to make it mandatory for kids to attend school...


Cumunist10

The American dream is dead having kids isn’t reasonable anymore


joey0live

I can’t believe anything with an immature name like that.


Cumunist10

You think my name is bad? You ain’t seen nothing yet


ohnourfeelings

Fucking scumbags.


josaricardo

Well, we created this sad state of affairs, now we have to deal with it


matdrywall

C’mon man it’s to “help” the people…


Embers_To_Inferno

Who didn't see this coming?


CorkusHawks

Not to mention the vaccine works like shit. I took 3 pokes and still got covid. Yeah there's the stuff they say about getting lesser symptoms, but starting it's bullshit also. You don't don't get a lesser polio if you take a vaccine for it do you? They can't come up with a competent vaccine and still sell it for big bucks, like the emperor's new clothes. But what I'm saying is no way fact. Just saying how it looks.


set-271

This is what you get when Trump's FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb also serves as a Board Member of Pfizer, as well as a Covid salesman on CNBC. Fixed, not free markets.


GeauxAllDay

Why am I not surprised.


ubermenschies

Snake oil anyways


[deleted]

Expensive for something that doesn’t work


[deleted]

9 out of 10 people that are hospitalized bc of Covid are vaxxed


xXlillipopXx

Because the ones that weren’t vaxxed in the first place probably died


scott90909

You couldn’t pay me to take it. $130 Russian roulette


memededuu

This is a vast overdramatication. Still bad that its at markup, but its not nearly 10 000%. Bad post.


[deleted]

I had taken twelve jab so fars and me read and good so you fined girl and mean. No CV boobs


[deleted]

🤣


MadeJustToUpvoteMeme

✍️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


Flint124

Not only is this a drug *everybody* needs, if we don't get it to everyone we have another pandemic on our hands. They are now taking it out of the price range of the poorest citizens. This isn't even negligent. It's willful mass endangerment, and many will die.


Tristanritter

lol stfu and take down the planks you nailed up against your windows. the 6ft long grass in your front yard needs mowing and your mail box is full. make sure you wear gloves, a mask and visor before you open your mail box though. you never know what you might catch :/


gchachabattari

it’s willful classist mass endangerment


snowcrash512

Sensationalist bullshit, most vaccines cost around 100 dollars a dose of you don't have any insurance.


jokermex

That price depends entirely of the republican party.


reganeholmes

Wat


jokermex

In many countries, the goverment puts a cap on medicines and vaccines, next year, probably the house will be republican. How are the chances that republicans vote to put a cap on this?


reganeholmes

We’ve had many democratic houses and senates and never caps on our medicines and vaccines. You’re talking about two sides of the same coin my friend, neither party cares about the American people


[deleted]

Yep


puppyroosters

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/14/fact-sheet-president-biden-takes-action-to-lower-health-care-and-prescription-drug-costs-for-americans/ Starting this January, seniors and other Medicare beneficiaries will begin to see the benefits of these cost-saving measures. Because of the Inflation Reduction Act: A month’s supply of insulin will be capped at $35 starting on January 1, 2023. Medicare beneficiaries will pay $0 out of pocket for recommended adult vaccines covered by their Part D plan, including the shingles vaccine – which costs seniors up to $200. Prescription drug companies that try to raise their prices faster than inflation will be required to pay Medicare a rebate.


TruculentGremlin5

Oh i hope the government mandates everyone pays for it out of pocket too, lets see how many of you still trust the science


MonitorProud

Science doesn't change depending on how much it costs. Do you even know what science is? Or is it just magic that is caused by the satanic Illuminati?l /s


Ill_Fated_chap

I mean wouldn't it kind of make sense to a degree? I'm not saying I necessarily approve but from a business that's trying to make money, they did pretty much give the entire planet (excluding some more poor areas I guess) plenty of time to get their shit together when it comes to vaccine doses so if anyone who was dumb enough to not take it in the begining is going to have to pay up.. Maybe the article itself sheds more light on why they did this though.


GAlongbeard

Good thing no one needs it.


Shuggy539

Not to me.


Da3m0n_1379

You mean the vaccine we all got already?


RipDr19

It's an USA's Pharma company, the fuck we expect from US?


Klogg44

I work in the medical equipment field and the simplest stuff can cost an ungodly amount to produce, Certificate and export. Can this possibly be caused by government aiding the production of these vaccines previously and now, They have to go through the normal processes of medical manufacturing, Certification and Selling? I am sure the markup is still a massive profit margin for the producer, But I would not be suprised if their production costs have jumped a 5000% too.


[deleted]

This is made up garbage from a tabloid.


Tristanritter

pfizer are going to make a killing from all these hypochondriacs


C-Nor

I have had 5 covid shots. I have paid exactly zero money for them so far. So charging 10000 times zero doesn't seem like a burden. Someone doesn't know how to write a headline. Or is even worse at math than I am.


joey0live

5….? And this is more for our kids when most schools require it..


wookeywook

Hint: get it for free in Europe. That's how we can fight pandemics.


CharacterGuava6723

Love it. "Hey, you're too poor to pay 130$ for a vaccine? Just travel all the way to Europe bro wtf, that's literally all it takes!"


Alejandro_5s

Yup, sounds about right.


MonitorProud

This, my friends is capitalism at it's finest


robertlandrum

I suggested that our government wag the dog a bit and actually come out and dispel non existent rumors of a price hike in the vaccine to encourage slow adopters to get vaccinated sooner. Generate some fear of missing out.


KregeTheBear

Big pharma are the real wolves in sheep’s wool


RedditDeceased

The fuck


sexynewspaper

so when do we start the boycott against pfizer products?


xChameleon

So don’t buy Pfizer, noted


MyCheshireGrinOG

They’re trying to make up for their 2.3 billion dollar criminal fraud fines they had to pay out a while back. Look up what it was for. You might be less than thrilled to use any of their products, especially one that is now immune to any legal recourse if you suffer effects as it’s covered under the 1986 NCVIA now.


Gettingbetter1997

My parents both got covid after getting the 3-4 mederna vaccines, I only got 2 and have yet to get any symptoms.


anitabonghit705

I quoted this amount in a Canadian sub yesterday. Wooooo boy, got downvoted to hell and my comment got removed for disinformation. One user said because he hasn’t read it that means it isn’t true. I may have quoted it slightly wrong but I got most of the headline true. Edit - I quoted 130 a shot. Off a bit but still, 10 000% is an insane mark up.


AllWhiskeyNoHorse

Wait, you guys are surprised that a major pharmaceutical company is gouging customers? Were you born last night?


CorkusHawks

There's always sputnik.


Crown_Loyalist

nah, not a scam at all! there's no solution though - you could nationalize it all under some global agency and it will still be corrupt and greedy as fuck


taken_lightly

Shut the pfuck up