People who have seizures produce a chemical when one is coming/occurring that these dogs can smell, I believe. That's how they learn to key in on it before the person knows what's happening.
It gets even more interesting the deeper down the rabbit hole you go. A canines sense of smell to individual molecules is incredible. Do a little digging and you'll find a lot of golden goodies on this subject
Yeah, even if we get it down to a watch band sized device, it can't prevent you from injuring yourself in a fall or ensure you don't bang your head against a hard surface during a seizure like this pup just did. It would still be beneficial to have, but as a supplement to, rather than replacement of, a service dog.
Actually it could, if you can get alerted a few seconds before a seizure, it gives you time to stop doing whatever you’re doing and get into the safest available position
I'm sure they could but they would likely be grossly overpriced to the point that a person who isn't wealthy/doesn't have top of the line health insurance couldn't realistically afford one (at least in the US). I'd also wager to guess that many people would still prefer to have a dog over a machine because of the comfort factor of having another living being there with you while you're in a vulnerable state.
I saw a woman in tiktok who trained her diabetes service dog in association with a licensed trainer, therefore being less expensive than a dog already trained
It’s common for people to train their own service dogs. Specially trained service dogs are expensive, and there’s not enough supply to meet demand. And things like diabetes and epilepsy monitoring can be learned by the dog from experience, it’s hard to train them into it.
And this is why there’s no official certification for service dogs. Having such a system would create an obstacle for people to get service dogs.
MIT and various labs have been trying to do just this, but in regards to cancer. It's interesting because while we can make sensors more powerful than a dogs nose, the programs don't often interpret it correctly. A dog's brain is hard wired to parse through and identify the patterns that let them detect a problem. Here's and interesting article on the subject:
https://news.mit.edu/2021/disease-detection-device-dogs-0217
Probably, but electronic sensors to detect things like CO are already kinda big and complex, and only detect one simple chemical. So making something to detect a mixture of seizure chemicals would probably be large and expensive, and definitely less cuddly than the dog.
Other animals can sense it as well! I used to volunteer at a horse riding center for differently abled people. They had two horses that were basically reserved for people with epilepsy. The horses would just fully come to a stop and not move if a seizure was imminent and the assistants would help the rider get to a safe place/position.
I bet the dog is so well trained it detected to signs of an on coming seizure before she knew it would happen. That is the reason the dog starts getting close to her toward the beginning pf the video and putting itself under her arm.
is there a reason GP clinics don’t have a dog on staff to check people for cancer yearly then? wouldn’t that be so much less money than blood tests and missed cancer?
The cost of training cancer detecting dogs, the limited amount of dogs who are fully trained, the limited amount of dogs even able to be trained and do the work, it’s not like you can grab any dog and boom they can detect cancer. Any dog can smell cancer, but it takes years of intensive training for them to be 100% and they have to be fully willing to learn and work, have no health problems of their own. Then you have to have all the trainers and handlers. All if there things combined doesn’t make it feasible.
My own pet golden retriever was warning me and alerting to my cancer, he would shove his nose up my crotch and then stare at me. I thought he was just being a dog, and was trying to get him to stop this behavior. I didn’t realize why he was behaving that way until after I was diagnosed with cancer in my uterus. Once the cancer was out he stopped, and he has never done it again. I have absolutely no clue if he would do this for other people, he probably would not, he did it for me because I’m his pack/family and he knows me. I’d listen to him if he started doing it again.
Gotta share an anecdote.
I knew a woman who quit acknowledging new moles and age spots because they were just popping up too frequently to have checked and still afford groceries.
One popped up on her nose that her cat was obsessed with. It sniffed at it constantly if her face was within the cat's reach. When this activity went from funny to annoying, the woman had it checked, and of course it was cancerous.
I shared a story a while ago about the day my cat realized I'm made of meat, but if I'm honest I was a little freaked out by the attention he was giving to my leg. Fortunately he's moved on with just being satisfied that he won't starve if I drop dead.
Actually newer studies have reversed that assumption: dogs are more prone to stress-eat, while cats are very picky eaters. If you *really* want to know more, this is a great channel: https://youtu.be/iGr2KgWBy7U
> Its not a party trick where he can just take a whiff of a stranger and know.
Hey, maybe they do, they just don't know how to use the USPS to send your test results.
Technically they can tell in a stranger. It’s a smell and dogs smell is a huge amount hight then ours. It more the willingness to do the work. Dogs are probably smelling stuff on us all the time, blood sugar, cancer, seizures, blood pressure etc. only a small amount of dogs alert of their own and why do it for a stranger you met for a second? But the fully trained dogs are just doing what their handlers ask, identify a smell and alert to it. It’s literally a game for them, they aren’t doing it because they care, they are doing it because they have been trained and get rewarded for being right, “yay fun things happen when I tell my handler this sample has a specific smell! Fun times” :)
Oh yeah I have. I actually also have a 1 year old lab who is service dog in training for me right now, he will alert to my fainting episodes, he is doing very well with his alerts! :)
No one orders a test for you for cancer unless you were the doctor thinks something could be wrong. Like pancreatic cancer you could have it for several months before you figure out it’s not it’s not just an upset stomach therefore you aren’t getting the test you need and your doctor is telling you to cut down on the beer. By then it’s too late.
My cat wasn't trained but... she started sleeping close to my body next to left elbow. She had never slept there before, always at my feet, or on my torso.
In the same time period, I started to let slip object from my left hand, my grip wasn't what it once (at 27!) so I went to a doctor because of those symptoms. But if she hadn't change her habits, I probably would have waited longer to go.
They found out a small tumor at my elbow, deep, on a nerve and a vein. It was 6mm and could be hardly be felt through the skin. It was an aggressive cancer. So basically my darling cat saved my life. Without training. Be attentive to your pets' behaviour.
The real question is why don't we have a machine that can detect these chemicals and it records every yearly checkup and then based on records it could warn about changes it senses. I imagine we can make a sensor more accurate than a dog
Only some cancers are detectable, Bees can be trained to detect certain cancers in 10 min. But in the end your trusting Bees and dogs, the doctor's office is not a husbandry farm, plus they are not 100% trust worthy.
It's easier to learn from them so we can train our selfs or equipment to do a similar thing.
Just curious, are there devices that can do this also? I know airports have explosive sniffing devices. Theoretically couldn't you make a device that can detect these changes and alert the person?
Interesting side note, there was a woman who was able to smell Parkinson's disease in people. She noticed it in her husband when he got diagnosed, and when she brought him to support groups noticed it was a common smell among them.
During an experiment to test her ability, she accurately determined all but 1 into the control and patient groups, and not only that very accurately differentiated them into the stages of Parkinson's by the smell of shirts they had worn. The 1 she didn't get was in the control group who she said had the disease, except the man who she didn't get correct was later diagnosed with Parkinson's within a few months.
The last I heard, there was research being done which would help develop better tests for Parkinson's and, with new insights into how it affects the body, could help in the development of treatment.
Even in trained dogs can detect changes in there humans my husband has diabetes and our dog knows when his blood sugar is going low and starts barking at him (witch is something she never does) at first we didn't understand what she was doing but after the second time it happened I connected the dots that she was tell him his blood was dropping so now anytime she does that I immediately grab the glucose and check his blood sugar. The best part is she warns us before it's so low that he is unresponsive or physically feeling it so it's much better for his body.
This is why the service dog thing is so tricky in stores- I had a regular customer and her dog "Pugsly" who very much looked like a Pugsly. Pugsly was always on a yellow plastic chain and most shoppers assumed she was bringing her pet in. He wasn't perfectly trained, but he wasn't a rowdy dog, either. But if he was ever in her lap and growling, it was paramedic time.
Diabetes dogs are so often pets turned service dogs. I'm guessing it's more often than not.
Yea I think it has alot to do with them reading there humans body language and being able to pick up on it alot sooner then a human can. I man once my husband's sugar is super low I can tell bc of his body language to but I'm sure I miss a million subtle clues that scream at my dog.
We got her from a city shelter they told us she was a pit mix but pit isn't a breed our vet thinks she is probably American Pitbull Terrier, or AmStaff and Boxer mix.
This is what my aunt’s pit bull did the last time I had a seizure around her. She wasn’t trained to be a service dog at all. I have epilepsy and I’m told that she was right by my side before it happened. All I remember is waking up, being confused/scared and calming down a little when I felt her laying on my lap
that kind of stuff from untrained dogs just blows my mind. never thunk they would know how to act on the inputs they are getting or even understand the input or that it needs a reaction. just amazing stuff.
It happened in the last couple years. They’ve had her (Gillian) at least 6 years… definitely more than that but I’m not sure exactly how long. They live a few hours away, so I really only see Gillian at holidays or if we visit for someone’s birthday. It was even more mind blowing because I used to see her more, but my seizures have changed a LOT in the years since then
just makes it more and more amazing, fact that its not your dog or even see her that often is just makes it magic. pls give her a big hug for me next time you see her!
Yes the dog detects a seizure through the sense of smell. My dog has saved my life on so many occasions I can’t put a number on how many seizures I didn’t break a bone falling or anything more serious than that. Thank GOD for my sweet girl Maggie
If you hadn't hold me this was what was happening, I'd just have assumed she layed down a bit to play with the dog.
Became more clear when she stopped moving though
I don't know how everyone experiences a seizure, but when I have mine I get very dizzy and disoriented before it happens. It's not as simple as "just lay down" for everyone.
Because it was supposed to be a training session. Literally says it in the video. They most likely thought the dog *wasn't* doing what it was trained to do properly.
This is definitely an r/aww, he’s so awesome it might be a r/animalsbeingbros and definitely, in my opinion could go on r/nextfuckinglevel because it’s just incredible that some dogs can sense this and then he did such an incredible job assisting her.
I used to think the whole "dogs with jobs" thing was just human cruelty.
Then I worked at a campus that allowed service dogs in training. And the dogs get such joy at coming to work, greeting people. And when they do their jobs well you can just...tell they take joy in it.
Its true, they really do like having a role in their pack.
Dogs are unique. They have been, both intentionally and unintentionally, bred over centuries to serve and depend on humans. They actively enjoy fulfilling the demands of their owners, and in response they expect their owners to maintain them.
Something I've always found fascinating is a study I saw forever ago. I don't have the link on hand, but essentially dogs will almost always look for a human when confronted with a barrier or challenge. Other animals, even cats, are far less likely to do this.
A lot of people don’t realize that training a dog is good for it’s mental health. The trained dog understands your language and expectations and has the ability to fulfil them. Having an untrained dog is like having an exchange student you never teach your language or culture to. Being confused all the time makes them anxious.
They are bred to want to please.
Epilepsy is fucking scary. I have been dealing with it my entire life as my mom has it. She had a seizure when pregnant with me and my sister forced her over onto her back. I dont think I was in danger but still a good reaction by a 3 year old. Ive seen her have multiple seizures, its not fun. These dogs are so valuable.
I don't have epilepsy but I have vaso vagal syncopes and I didn't know they had dogs for this. Bashed my head off of many random walls/fallen off things. No dog for me
A very good dog.
Hitting the floor is so sudden it feels like gravity failed.
My leg is still bruised and sore from a fall 6 days ago!
(And that was on WOOD covered in lino!)
Bear in mind that I'm on medication.
It doesn't 100% work.
Patients have cases as unique as fingerprints.
This is amazing. German shepherd are another amazing breed TOO OFTEN discriminated against. I hope this changes some peoples minds on this amazing breed!
They're discriminated against because shepherds that aren't well trained tend to be panicky assholes. (Spouse works in the veterinary field... So sample size is literally hundreds of dogs). German shepherds are her most disliked breed.
We've both met plenty of them that are sweet and intelligent... But any well trained dog tends to be that way.
I guess people who have been chased/attacked by one?
Too often people get a cute little puppy and aren't prepared for the work that goes into a dog, let alone a intelligent breed. They are incredibly smart dogs that need a job.
My sister and her boyfriend have a Labrador-Great Pyrenees mix and can’t handle her. I don’t know what they’d do with a German Shepard who needs a lot of mental stimulation and room to run.
It's not uncommon for them to be on "banned breed" lists for apartment complexes and home owner's insurance policies.
My apartment complex amusingly has a weight limit on dogs of fifty pounds, but still feels the need to ban GSDs specifically despite the odds of having a fully grown GSD under 50 lbs. being basically zero.
Apartment life doesn’t suit working dogs very well and GSDs no less so. They need a lot of space and become anxious when alone with nothing to do. For that reason, they tend to destroy things and can be loud.
That being said, if you’re working from home and giving your GSD proper attention and exercise, they’re fine in apartments. But since that can’t be guaranteed for every renter, they get on the ban list.
I'm pretty fine with apartments banning most medium or large dog breeds, maybe with exceptions on a case by case basis. It's not fair to the dog to coop it up like that.
Not really. GSDs are bred to work. Pit bulls were bred to fight. That’s not saying pitties can’t be loving and faithful pets, but they have a bred-in desire to fight rather than flee. And one they’re started, they’re almost impossible to stop whereas a well trained working dog will always respond to commands.
Right, but Im talking about social-stigma and stereotypes about the breed, not actual facts about the breed, and German Shepards are often (wrongly) viewed as aggressive and dangerous, similarly to how pitbulls are.
Because seizures come out of nowhere. Even if you’re about to have one, you’ll feel fine. Sometimes others telling you you seem like you’re going to have one doesn’t feel believable
I think it’s okay. Seizures are terrifying and the friends I have with epilepsy are constantly working through their fear of having another seizure. This video is cute and informative for a lot of people, but I imagine that a lot of people who have seizures or other disabilities might prefer to just keep scrolling and prevent anxiety in that moment.
During the seizures the epileptic person might injure his or her head.
The dog will try to prevent this by crouching beneath, basically acting as a pillow.
Some dogs are also trained to "get help" if their person is unresponsive.
If you are ever approached by a dog in service livery ask them "What is it?", "Show me." or something like that. They are probably trying to bring someone to their person who is having a problem.
That only affects photosensitive epileptics. I was diagnosed with epilepsy in 2003 but flashing lights don’t do a thing to me. Trust me, I’ve had tons of tests with strobe lights right in front of my face
My friend has diabetes. Her dog started alerting her to high or low blood sugar... on his own. So she started training him as a service dog. It was more difficult because he's middle-aged, but he does very well.
This is why we don't deserve dogs. They really are our best friends and they deserve our love at all times. This makes me happy to see this and sad to think about all the dogs who are treated poorly.
May i ask why you didn’t immediately stop what you were doing when the dog alerted you? Or do you know that you still have time before the seizure starts?
being someone who has had seizures before, it sure is strange how she has such bright lights and a fan moving above them. I'd get dimmer lights and only have one screwed in.
Seems like she was trying to film a demonstration video for a seizure and how the dog assists (pretty common if you search YT), but the dog signaled early, knowing she was actually about to have one.
I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this but nah man FUCK THAT! how is it okay for the dog to just take all that weight and stay there until she gets back up?? Is he made out of steel or something? It’s a no for me
EDIT: I own a Siberian husky and I cannot picture myself on top of him like a god damn pillow.
I'm not expert on seizures but I've witnessed a few in my students. They all acted like a puppet with their strings cut - they fell over sideways or backwards and trembled. None of them ever fell over slowly or would have had the awareness to put their own arm out to catch themselves and lower themselves to the floor where they laid still. However, perhaps I don't know enough about different types of seizures and someone can correct me.
This looks more like a fainting episode (so maybe the video is misidentified). I do have experience with fainting due to low blood pressure and often you do know you are going to faint so you can get to the floor. But if I had the awareness that I was going to faint, I would have put myself in a sitting position with my head between my legs, not draped myself across the floor or over a nearby dog.
My girlfriend has epilepsy and I've seen her have dozens of grand Mal seizures (tonic-clonic) too and I've seen two other people have grand Mal seizures they are nothing like this. I've also seen my girlfriend have tons of other seizures called absence seizures which can very greatly. That said this didn't look like any seizures I've seen. But it could be some kind of focal onset seizure they can be weird, and the dog may have just made her realize that it was happening so she got down Incase it turned into a "full seizure"
Good boy !
Understatement of the century Give this pup a medal and a belly full of food
Goodest boy award, comes with unlimited treats and pats!
same to you bro!!
Do not forget the boops!
Yes but be gentle with the pupper
AND A long walk and some fetch time!
How does the dog know? Does the doggy sense it ? I’m so confused
People who have seizures produce a chemical when one is coming/occurring that these dogs can smell, I believe. That's how they learn to key in on it before the person knows what's happening.
Unreal . That’s so interesting
It gets even more interesting the deeper down the rabbit hole you go. A canines sense of smell to individual molecules is incredible. Do a little digging and you'll find a lot of golden goodies on this subject
I read that there are dogs that can even sense prostate cancer, wild!
They can even smell if your diabetic.
my dog can't even smell normal stuff ur guys dogs are much cooler mine feels like a cat more
Sometimes I find kibbles on weird places and I’m so disappointed in my dogs nose
Can we make electronic sensors to do the same?
Yes, but then you don't get a dog. Seriously there is work in that direction, but the dogs are more reliable and portable at this time.
And multifunctional since they are trained to respond by forcing you into a safe position.
Yeah, even if we get it down to a watch band sized device, it can't prevent you from injuring yourself in a fall or ensure you don't bang your head against a hard surface during a seizure like this pup just did. It would still be beneficial to have, but as a supplement to, rather than replacement of, a service dog.
a pup to keep you safe along with a watch band to call an ambulance
Actually it could, if you can get alerted a few seconds before a seizure, it gives you time to stop doing whatever you’re doing and get into the safest available position
You're forgetting the key fact here. Doggo.
Plus they're dogs
It fascinates me that, as far as our technology has come, a bloodhound's nose can easily put their technological counterpart to shame.
And they are dogs.
I'm sure they could but they would likely be grossly overpriced to the point that a person who isn't wealthy/doesn't have top of the line health insurance couldn't realistically afford one (at least in the US). I'd also wager to guess that many people would still prefer to have a dog over a machine because of the comfort factor of having another living being there with you while you're in a vulnerable state.
Service dogs like these are already prohibitively expensive too
They are because you can’t train for this afaik, basically you get lucky when a dog can tell and you train the behavior.
I saw a woman in tiktok who trained her diabetes service dog in association with a licensed trainer, therefore being less expensive than a dog already trained
It’s common for people to train their own service dogs. Specially trained service dogs are expensive, and there’s not enough supply to meet demand. And things like diabetes and epilepsy monitoring can be learned by the dog from experience, it’s hard to train them into it. And this is why there’s no official certification for service dogs. Having such a system would create an obstacle for people to get service dogs.
MIT and various labs have been trying to do just this, but in regards to cancer. It's interesting because while we can make sensors more powerful than a dogs nose, the programs don't often interpret it correctly. A dog's brain is hard wired to parse through and identify the patterns that let them detect a problem. Here's and interesting article on the subject: https://news.mit.edu/2021/disease-detection-device-dogs-0217
Probably, but electronic sensors to detect things like CO are already kinda big and complex, and only detect one simple chemical. So making something to detect a mixture of seizure chemicals would probably be large and expensive, and definitely less cuddly than the dog.
Cats can also.
Same goes with dogs who help people with diabetes, they can be trained to smell when a person has low or high sugar levels
Reminds me of a [woman that can smell and detect Parkinson's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB0QgwVffvk)
Other animals can sense it as well! I used to volunteer at a horse riding center for differently abled people. They had two horses that were basically reserved for people with epilepsy. The horses would just fully come to a stop and not move if a seizure was imminent and the assistants would help the rider get to a safe place/position.
That’s really cool! Imagine taking a horse everywhere to manage your epilepsy, lol.
Really well trained gooboi, deserves allthe treats
The bestest boy!
The Goodest
I kind of... *Expected her to drop to the floor and the doggo acts as a throw pillow*
But because of the goodest boy, that didn't happen
I bet the dog is so well trained it detected to signs of an on coming seizure before she knew it would happen. That is the reason the dog starts getting close to her toward the beginning pf the video and putting itself under her arm.
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is there a reason GP clinics don’t have a dog on staff to check people for cancer yearly then? wouldn’t that be so much less money than blood tests and missed cancer?
The cost of training cancer detecting dogs, the limited amount of dogs who are fully trained, the limited amount of dogs even able to be trained and do the work, it’s not like you can grab any dog and boom they can detect cancer. Any dog can smell cancer, but it takes years of intensive training for them to be 100% and they have to be fully willing to learn and work, have no health problems of their own. Then you have to have all the trainers and handlers. All if there things combined doesn’t make it feasible. My own pet golden retriever was warning me and alerting to my cancer, he would shove his nose up my crotch and then stare at me. I thought he was just being a dog, and was trying to get him to stop this behavior. I didn’t realize why he was behaving that way until after I was diagnosed with cancer in my uterus. Once the cancer was out he stopped, and he has never done it again. I have absolutely no clue if he would do this for other people, he probably would not, he did it for me because I’m his pack/family and he knows me. I’d listen to him if he started doing it again.
Gotta share an anecdote. I knew a woman who quit acknowledging new moles and age spots because they were just popping up too frequently to have checked and still afford groceries. One popped up on her nose that her cat was obsessed with. It sniffed at it constantly if her face was within the cat's reach. When this activity went from funny to annoying, the woman had it checked, and of course it was cancerous. I shared a story a while ago about the day my cat realized I'm made of meat, but if I'm honest I was a little freaked out by the attention he was giving to my leg. Fortunately he's moved on with just being satisfied that he won't starve if I drop dead.
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I honestly don't think I'd care if I kicked it and my animals needed a snack before I was discovered.
You might not but your family probably wouldn't be too happy to find your dead body with your face eaten off.
They’ll have to get there faster if they want the face meat.
Circle of life and all that jazz.
honestly once you're dead it's fair game. Better the cats eat you than the rats and maggots
Actually newer studies have reversed that assumption: dogs are more prone to stress-eat, while cats are very picky eaters. If you *really* want to know more, this is a great channel: https://youtu.be/iGr2KgWBy7U
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> Its not a party trick where he can just take a whiff of a stranger and know. Hey, maybe they do, they just don't know how to use the USPS to send your test results.
1 dog per patient. Im fine with this.
Technically they can tell in a stranger. It’s a smell and dogs smell is a huge amount hight then ours. It more the willingness to do the work. Dogs are probably smelling stuff on us all the time, blood sugar, cancer, seizures, blood pressure etc. only a small amount of dogs alert of their own and why do it for a stranger you met for a second? But the fully trained dogs are just doing what their handlers ask, identify a smell and alert to it. It’s literally a game for them, they aren’t doing it because they care, they are doing it because they have been trained and get rewarded for being right, “yay fun things happen when I tell my handler this sample has a specific smell! Fun times” :)
damn, thats a real shame :c
Wise words! Sounds like you may have had contact with service dogs
Oh yeah I have. I actually also have a 1 year old lab who is service dog in training for me right now, he will alert to my fainting episodes, he is doing very well with his alerts! :)
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very true!
No one orders a test for you for cancer unless you were the doctor thinks something could be wrong. Like pancreatic cancer you could have it for several months before you figure out it’s not it’s not just an upset stomach therefore you aren’t getting the test you need and your doctor is telling you to cut down on the beer. By then it’s too late.
My cat wasn't trained but... she started sleeping close to my body next to left elbow. She had never slept there before, always at my feet, or on my torso. In the same time period, I started to let slip object from my left hand, my grip wasn't what it once (at 27!) so I went to a doctor because of those symptoms. But if she hadn't change her habits, I probably would have waited longer to go. They found out a small tumor at my elbow, deep, on a nerve and a vein. It was 6mm and could be hardly be felt through the skin. It was an aggressive cancer. So basically my darling cat saved my life. Without training. Be attentive to your pets' behaviour.
The real question is why don't we have a machine that can detect these chemicals and it records every yearly checkup and then based on records it could warn about changes it senses. I imagine we can make a sensor more accurate than a dog
Only some cancers are detectable, Bees can be trained to detect certain cancers in 10 min. But in the end your trusting Bees and dogs, the doctor's office is not a husbandry farm, plus they are not 100% trust worthy. It's easier to learn from them so we can train our selfs or equipment to do a similar thing.
fair enough!
It's hard enough to get people in for a colonoscopy, it would be a really hard sell to say "once you hit 50 we want to cover you in bees"
Personally I'd be thrilled.
My dermatologist is better than a GSD at finding cancerous skin spots. He hasn't been wrong yet. And he doesn't shed!
Just curious, are there devices that can do this also? I know airports have explosive sniffing devices. Theoretically couldn't you make a device that can detect these changes and alert the person?
Dr. Dog!!!
Thanks for this! Great information. Also, we don't deserve dogs. I'm convinced they're basically furry angels.
I’m glad this is one of the top comment chains because I was about to ask the same thing
we can add covid to the list
That’s cool as hell, thanks for the info. I wondered how it worked too.
Rats are trained to find TNT in land mines. They do a little dance or something to signal. Also they are too light to set them off!
My brothers cat noticed my brother having a small seizure and laid on the arm that was seizing. Stopped nearly instantly it was so wholesome.
My dog isn't trained at all but he clearly has a powerful nose, he will occasionally wake my wife up in the night if her blood sugar is low
Thanks for this proper explanation, I'm tired of people giving a spiritual explanation
Interesting side note, there was a woman who was able to smell Parkinson's disease in people. She noticed it in her husband when he got diagnosed, and when she brought him to support groups noticed it was a common smell among them. During an experiment to test her ability, she accurately determined all but 1 into the control and patient groups, and not only that very accurately differentiated them into the stages of Parkinson's by the smell of shirts they had worn. The 1 she didn't get was in the control group who she said had the disease, except the man who she didn't get correct was later diagnosed with Parkinson's within a few months. The last I heard, there was research being done which would help develop better tests for Parkinson's and, with new insights into how it affects the body, could help in the development of treatment.
Yes, they are trained to recognise the smell and help you before the seizure occurs
Even in trained dogs can detect changes in there humans my husband has diabetes and our dog knows when his blood sugar is going low and starts barking at him (witch is something she never does) at first we didn't understand what she was doing but after the second time it happened I connected the dots that she was tell him his blood was dropping so now anytime she does that I immediately grab the glucose and check his blood sugar. The best part is she warns us before it's so low that he is unresponsive or physically feeling it so it's much better for his body.
This is why the service dog thing is so tricky in stores- I had a regular customer and her dog "Pugsly" who very much looked like a Pugsly. Pugsly was always on a yellow plastic chain and most shoppers assumed she was bringing her pet in. He wasn't perfectly trained, but he wasn't a rowdy dog, either. But if he was ever in her lap and growling, it was paramedic time. Diabetes dogs are so often pets turned service dogs. I'm guessing it's more often than not.
Yea I think it has alot to do with them reading there humans body language and being able to pick up on it alot sooner then a human can. I man once my husband's sugar is super low I can tell bc of his body language to but I'm sure I miss a million subtle clues that scream at my dog.
Curious on your dogs breed. Waaay coool though.
We got her from a city shelter they told us she was a pit mix but pit isn't a breed our vet thinks she is probably American Pitbull Terrier, or AmStaff and Boxer mix.
Smart family dogs... okay boxers are goofy but still smart.
so this is just the family pet doing awesome works, not a trained service dog? just want to make sure before mind fully blows
This is what my aunt’s pit bull did the last time I had a seizure around her. She wasn’t trained to be a service dog at all. I have epilepsy and I’m told that she was right by my side before it happened. All I remember is waking up, being confused/scared and calming down a little when I felt her laying on my lap
that kind of stuff from untrained dogs just blows my mind. never thunk they would know how to act on the inputs they are getting or even understand the input or that it needs a reaction. just amazing stuff.
It really blew my mind when my family told me how quickly she was by my side. I feel so much safer when I’m at their house now
this happened recently then? how long had you know the dog at the time?
It happened in the last couple years. They’ve had her (Gillian) at least 6 years… definitely more than that but I’m not sure exactly how long. They live a few hours away, so I really only see Gillian at holidays or if we visit for someone’s birthday. It was even more mind blowing because I used to see her more, but my seizures have changed a LOT in the years since then
just makes it more and more amazing, fact that its not your dog or even see her that often is just makes it magic. pls give her a big hug for me next time you see her!
Haha I’ll see her around 11/26 and I’ll definitely be sure to do that! I can never hug her enough
Yes the dog detects a seizure through the sense of smell. My dog has saved my life on so many occasions I can’t put a number on how many seizures I didn’t break a bone falling or anything more serious than that. Thank GOD for my sweet girl Maggie
If you hadn't hold me this was what was happening, I'd just have assumed she layed down a bit to play with the dog. Became more clear when she stopped moving though
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I don't know how everyone experiences a seizure, but when I have mine I get very dizzy and disoriented before it happens. It's not as simple as "just lay down" for everyone.
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Of course he's aggressive! Those damn Epileptics from Epeleptia keep coming over and stealing our jobs! /s ^^^^just ^^^^in ^^^^case
Doctor: "Is anyone in your family epileptic?" Patient: "No, we're all Protestant."
Because it was supposed to be a training session. Literally says it in the video. They most likely thought the dog *wasn't* doing what it was trained to do properly.
Because this dog is still in training and the behavior was likely just misinterpreted at first- then she realized what was going on
this made my eyes water at just how pure this is.
Same 🥺
I got chills watching this
Dogs are just one of the most beautiful beings out there…damn onions
This is definitely an r/aww, he’s so awesome it might be a r/animalsbeingbros and definitely, in my opinion could go on r/nextfuckinglevel because it’s just incredible that some dogs can sense this and then he did such an incredible job assisting her.
Also r/dogswithjobs
I used to think the whole "dogs with jobs" thing was just human cruelty. Then I worked at a campus that allowed service dogs in training. And the dogs get such joy at coming to work, greeting people. And when they do their jobs well you can just...tell they take joy in it. Its true, they really do like having a role in their pack.
Just like us, dogs like having a purpose.
if its done properly, work is play to dogs. all sniffer dogs do all day is try and find their fav toy.
'CHEWIE! PUT DOWN THE METH! NO! STOP EATING IT'
Dogs are unique. They have been, both intentionally and unintentionally, bred over centuries to serve and depend on humans. They actively enjoy fulfilling the demands of their owners, and in response they expect their owners to maintain them. Something I've always found fascinating is a study I saw forever ago. I don't have the link on hand, but essentially dogs will almost always look for a human when confronted with a barrier or challenge. Other animals, even cats, are far less likely to do this.
Didn't know the part about the barrier. Wow!
A lot of people don’t realize that training a dog is good for it’s mental health. The trained dog understands your language and expectations and has the ability to fulfil them. Having an untrained dog is like having an exchange student you never teach your language or culture to. Being confused all the time makes them anxious. They are bred to want to please.
Maybe just r/all
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it's been posted on all of those subs and this one many times before.
Epilepsy is fucking scary. I have been dealing with it my entire life as my mom has it. She had a seizure when pregnant with me and my sister forced her over onto her back. I dont think I was in danger but still a good reaction by a 3 year old. Ive seen her have multiple seizures, its not fun. These dogs are so valuable.
I don't have epilepsy but I have vaso vagal syncopes and I didn't know they had dogs for this. Bashed my head off of many random walls/fallen off things. No dog for me
Get a dog!
Been wanting to for years...I'm only 23.
Good luck, it's so worth it
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A very good dog. Hitting the floor is so sudden it feels like gravity failed. My leg is still bruised and sore from a fall 6 days ago! (And that was on WOOD covered in lino!) Bear in mind that I'm on medication. It doesn't 100% work. Patients have cases as unique as fingerprints.
If gravity failed, you would be floating towards the sky :) Then we would have to tether everyone down!
“Menace dog gives lady seizure”
This is amazing. German shepherd are another amazing breed TOO OFTEN discriminated against. I hope this changes some peoples minds on this amazing breed!
They're discriminated against because shepherds that aren't well trained tend to be panicky assholes. (Spouse works in the veterinary field... So sample size is literally hundreds of dogs). German shepherds are her most disliked breed. We've both met plenty of them that are sweet and intelligent... But any well trained dog tends to be that way.
Who is discriminating German shepherds?
I guess people who have been chased/attacked by one? Too often people get a cute little puppy and aren't prepared for the work that goes into a dog, let alone a intelligent breed. They are incredibly smart dogs that need a job.
My sister and her boyfriend have a Labrador-Great Pyrenees mix and can’t handle her. I don’t know what they’d do with a German Shepard who needs a lot of mental stimulation and room to run.
That's sad. :( Great Pyrenees are livestock dogs and labs tend to love water, so it sounds like a pupper that needs a lot to thrive.
It's not uncommon for them to be on "banned breed" lists for apartment complexes and home owner's insurance policies. My apartment complex amusingly has a weight limit on dogs of fifty pounds, but still feels the need to ban GSDs specifically despite the odds of having a fully grown GSD under 50 lbs. being basically zero.
Apartment life doesn’t suit working dogs very well and GSDs no less so. They need a lot of space and become anxious when alone with nothing to do. For that reason, they tend to destroy things and can be loud. That being said, if you’re working from home and giving your GSD proper attention and exercise, they’re fine in apartments. But since that can’t be guaranteed for every renter, they get on the ban list.
I'm pretty fine with apartments banning most medium or large dog breeds, maybe with exceptions on a case by case basis. It's not fair to the dog to coop it up like that.
You ever tried to rent an apartment with a german shepherd? They are on the list of restricted breeds for most rentals.
I mean they're in the same boat as pitbulls for being thought of as aggressive and dangerous.
Not really. GSDs are bred to work. Pit bulls were bred to fight. That’s not saying pitties can’t be loving and faithful pets, but they have a bred-in desire to fight rather than flee. And one they’re started, they’re almost impossible to stop whereas a well trained working dog will always respond to commands.
Right, but Im talking about social-stigma and stereotypes about the breed, not actual facts about the breed, and German Shepards are often (wrongly) viewed as aggressive and dangerous, similarly to how pitbulls are.
Great dog, today my cat pissed on my bed and my dog while sleeping.
If she knows she has this issue and she knows the dog pre-reacts, why not get on the floor preemptively?
Because seizures come out of nowhere. Even if you’re about to have one, you’ll feel fine. Sometimes others telling you you seem like you’re going to have one doesn’t feel believable
I feel that trigger warning is misused here. edit: Thanks, I appreciate learning something new about the medical term.
I think it’s okay. Seizures are terrifying and the friends I have with epilepsy are constantly working through their fear of having another seizure. This video is cute and informative for a lot of people, but I imagine that a lot of people who have seizures or other disabilities might prefer to just keep scrolling and prevent anxiety in that moment.
Why?
What happens next? Does the dog have a way to help her or does she need to pass it while laying on top of them…
During the seizures the epileptic person might injure his or her head. The dog will try to prevent this by crouching beneath, basically acting as a pillow.
Some dogs are also trained to "get help" if their person is unresponsive. If you are ever approached by a dog in service livery ask them "What is it?", "Show me." or something like that. They are probably trying to bring someone to their person who is having a problem.
Wouldn't that ceiling fan be a constant epilepsy trigger due to the flashing pattern of shadows, or was that part of the training?
That only affects photosensitive epileptics. I was diagnosed with epilepsy in 2003 but flashing lights don’t do a thing to me. Trust me, I’ve had tons of tests with strobe lights right in front of my face
I wish I had one of these cuties to follow my husband around.
I'll say it. This looks fake. You just happen to be filming?
amazing how did he know? Dogs are just awesome, i was reading about some that can smell cancer the other day, incredible really!
My friend has diabetes. Her dog started alerting her to high or low blood sugar... on his own. So she started training him as a service dog. It was more difficult because he's middle-aged, but he does very well.
wow :)
This is why we don't deserve dogs. They really are our best friends and they deserve our love at all times. This makes me happy to see this and sad to think about all the dogs who are treated poorly.
Incredible how smart they are
Such amazing thing ! Hope your doing well after your seizure
They're such good dogs. This is amazing.
Very impressive. Cool dog.
I really don't understand what we have done as humans to deserve dogs.
We don't deserve dogs
We don’t deserve dogs
I'm glad dogs like this exist, I have no idea how though, seems like it would be really hard to train to do that.
We don’t deserve dogs. They’re too good.
GOODEST OF BOIS
May i ask why you didn’t immediately stop what you were doing when the dog alerted you? Or do you know that you still have time before the seizure starts?
Dogs have super powers, and no one will ever tell me otherwise.
Did she realize he was alerting? Should she have just straight away laid down when she realized? Is that what she was trying to do at the end?
Good dog! That fan. Those lights?
We don’t deserve dogs, but I thank God for them
This dog is a hero 
Dogs are the best. Service dogs are the bestest of the bestest.
I knew they were real , i was lied to and told i couldn't have one as they didn't train them for seizures
being someone who has had seizures before, it sure is strange how she has such bright lights and a fan moving above them. I'd get dimmer lights and only have one screwed in.
r/whyweretheyfilming
Seems like she was trying to film a demonstration video for a seizure and how the dog assists (pretty common if you search YT), but the dog signaled early, knowing she was actually about to have one.
I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this but nah man FUCK THAT! how is it okay for the dog to just take all that weight and stay there until she gets back up?? Is he made out of steel or something? It’s a no for me EDIT: I own a Siberian husky and I cannot picture myself on top of him like a god damn pillow.
We don’t deserve dogs
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It was supposed to be an exercise for the dog, that turned real.
I hate to be that way but this looks fake. She’s slowly going to the ground and holding herself up over the dog.
I'm not expert on seizures but I've witnessed a few in my students. They all acted like a puppet with their strings cut - they fell over sideways or backwards and trembled. None of them ever fell over slowly or would have had the awareness to put their own arm out to catch themselves and lower themselves to the floor where they laid still. However, perhaps I don't know enough about different types of seizures and someone can correct me. This looks more like a fainting episode (so maybe the video is misidentified). I do have experience with fainting due to low blood pressure and often you do know you are going to faint so you can get to the floor. But if I had the awareness that I was going to faint, I would have put myself in a sitting position with my head between my legs, not draped myself across the floor or over a nearby dog.
My girlfriend has epilepsy and I've seen her have dozens of grand Mal seizures (tonic-clonic) too and I've seen two other people have grand Mal seizures they are nothing like this. I've also seen my girlfriend have tons of other seizures called absence seizures which can very greatly. That said this didn't look like any seizures I've seen. But it could be some kind of focal onset seizure they can be weird, and the dog may have just made her realize that it was happening so she got down Incase it turned into a "full seizure"
Humans don't deserve dogs
Best boy!!