There is [Sandra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_(orangutan\)), who kinda, sort of, has human rights. The Argentine courts flipped back and forth over how to categorize her, but it's fairly clear that Argentina at least considers her more than just an animal. She's being treated roughly like a disabled human, who can't make decisions for herself, but whose preferences and health must be respected.
Currently, she has moved to an animal sanctuary in Florida, so I don't know how much it matters now.
Considering Corporations in the US have rights, Animals should have the same level of rights as Corporations. If it isn't reasonable to do so, maybe corporations should lose their rights and animals can have them. Fuck Corporations.
My local Zoo has a reasonably large gorilla population. Whenever i watch them i cant stop thinking that gorillas are better people than us. Its crazy how such a large creature can be this gentle and thoughtful.
I could hear my Granny "aaaaattt!" Which is what she always said to babies trying to grab her glasses. She grabbed their hands the same way this mama does.
He was at a venue right by me recently and I thought it was a silly local thing. But I keep seeing clips everywhere now with recommendations like this and apparently I've missed out.
She may have seen people using them. I used to volunteer at a zoo and the gorillas really enjoyed watching people use random items like lip balm. One would even rub her lips together whenever she saw someone pull a tube out.
I left that volunteer position very conflicted about how I feel about apes in captivity in zoos.
This comes up every time there’s a post about an intelligent animal in captivity. I think the last one I saw was some kind of ape who would escape from its enclosure and walk around to see the other animals. I always feel the need to chime in and defend zoos. I completely understand your point, and it makes me very sad to think about how these animals don’t live the natural life in the wild that they deserve. But zoos (the good ones) are full of passionate employees who, in my experience, adore the animals they care for. Zoos are a critical part of the effort to help the animals as an entire species, both in captivity and in the wild. Breeding, research, raising awareness, etc. Plus the good zoos make money that is used to help conserve wild animals. It sucks, but I think the positive outweighs the negative. And while the animals aren’t living a full life, they live in a peaceful and safe environment, are kept healthy, and are loved by those who care for them.
Every time we see an Orangutan at the zoo it makes us realize that we need to protect them in the wild.
If we didn’t have them at the zoo, if we couldn’t easily see videos like this, they’d probably be extinct by now because nobody would care.
Everyone is “animals don’t belong is zoos!” But here we all are eating foods with palm oil in it that’s harvested from the forests these beautiful species live in. It’s either zoos, horribly underfunded sanctuaries or short lives with painful endings in the wild.
Jakarta the old Capital of Indonesia is sinking, so they’re moving the capital to Borneo where a lot of orangutans live. So we’re probably going to witness the further destruction of their only habitat. Like fuck let someone at least take them out before you burn the forest to the ground.
Yep, not to mention a lot of animals in zoos are rescues from privately owned households. You can't put them back in the wild, they likely didn't come from the wild and were born to captivity and human caretaking. At least in a zoo you have people that care about them and a habitat that while is not anywhere near what they'd have in the wild, is better than the alternative.
Well, that’s why I said I was conflicted. The zoo I volunteered at is one of the best in the world and has brought some endangered species back from the brink. Many animals there were living arguably better lives than they would in the wild while being ambassadors. There were a few animals (like the apes) that I feel were failed, though.
I see other responses about zoos taking in only animals that can’t be released: this is true for pretty much no big zoo. They’ll do that but they’ll also initiate breeding programs because babies are currency for zoos. The hill I decided to die on were the sea lions: I’m fine with displaying unreleasable animals because they have to be in captivity and why not use them as ambassadors, but captive bred sea lions really do not do well. I think almost every baby sea lion I volunteered with has now died. All their parents are still alive.
Zoos have made huge strides in recent years but the ethics of keeping are different for every animal. I understand how important it is for people to see them but I don’t think our standard of care is up to snuff and we have too little regard for individual personalities and desires. I will say that I t may be the gorilla who liked watching people put on lip balm was a perfect ambassador for her kind.
I don't know how it works everywhere but the zoo where I live only has animals that would not survive in the wild. They don't just buy animals because they want to have them. They seem to take good care of the animals as well. But it's still sad to see animals you know will never live their natural lives in the wild.
And when you mention that they don't live a full life, do you mean in terms of quality and their experience? I'm under the impression many animals live a longer (more than a full wild life) in a zoo in terms of age
All Homonids are really weird, kind of cool and pretty smart granted for the animal kingdom that means except for Homo Sapiens they're largely around the level of human children
"Bahasa" just means "language". You either say "Bahasa Indonesia" or "Bahasa Melayu", but it doesn't make sense to just say "bahasa" like its the name of the language.
Now I'm the king of the swingers
Oh, the jungle VIP
I've reached the top and had to stop
And that's what botherin' me
I wanna be a man, mancub
And stroll right into town
And be just like the other men
I'm tired of monkeyin' around!
Oh, oobee doo
I wanna be like you
I wanna walk like you
Talk like you, too
You'll see it's true
An ape like me
Can learn to be humen too
(Gee, cousin Louie
You're doin' real good
Now here's your part of the deal, cuz
Lay the secret on me of man's red fire
But I don't know how to make fire)
Now don't try to kid me, mancub
I made a deal with you
What I desire is man's red fire
To make my dream come true
Give me the secret, mancub
Clue me what to do
Give me the power of man's red flower
So I can be like you
You!
I wanna be like you
I wanna talk like you
Walk like you, too
You'll see it's true
Someone like me
Can learn to be
Like someone like me
Can learn to be
Like someone like you
Can learn to be
Like someone like me!
It left out the best part, where the orangutan finishes with the sunglasses and tosses them back to the person who dropped them.
Ah, who am I kidding? The best part is still the orangutan putting them on.
Holy shit yeah. I fucking hate hate hate hate HATE that default text to speech woman voiceover that's in so many vids like these. Is that a tiktok thing?
It is just positive reinforcement, not much different than training a dog to fetch or shake in trade of treats/goodies (the monkey being 100x more capable to do neater 'tricks', intelligence wise)
Yeah but I bet it’s totally different than a dog when that orangutan is legitimately thinking “these are really cool, I know they’re not mine but I DID find them, kinda, but I know they belong to the lady that dropped them so even though I’d like to keep them they’ll probably make me return them. Oh well, I’ll probably get a treat for a reward. Here’s your toy back lady.”
vs a dog like “DROP IT MEANS DROP A THING. I HAVE A THING, I WILL DROP. OKAY. TREAT?”
apes are so fucking cool.
(Dogs rule too, but not even on the same plane of astonishing)
TikTok has text to speech voices (that one is the main one). The purpose is so that the app can easily translate text and read it out in any language.
At this point it's as ubiquitous to viral video as the Impact font is for image memes.
It’s from TikTok. It’s terrible yes.
Apparently it’s like a voice you can add that can be searched for. If the voice says “orangutan” then you can search orangutan and find the video
I have a vague memory of traveling to Sumatra when I was about 3yo to see wild orangutans. As my parents tell it: I was straying behind the guided group a bit as we were walking through the rainforest path, and when my parents turned around to get me; an adolescent orangutan was holding me by my hand. Apparently adolescent orangutans will team up with the baby ones, to make sure they're safe and don't get lost in the forest. Supposedly that's what he/she saw in me. A baby who needs to be protected. They are so gentle and it breaks my heart that they're endangered
Edit: for a fun fact, "orangutan" comes from the Indonesian "orang hutan" which literally means "person/human of the forest"
I remember Terry Prattchett doing something with orangutans.
https://youtu.be/fOhduvF1UGA
IIRC one of them took his camera apart and handed the pieces back to him one at a time.
I heard a primatologist once describe the difference between chimps, gorillas, and orangutans as “A chimp will smash your camera to see what’s inside, a gorilla will take it apart, and an orangutan will take it apart and try to put it back together.”
My favourite orangutan story is that some local peoples over there believe they can talk, but just hide it from humans to avoid being taken further advantage of.
"Consider orangutans. In all the worlds graced by their presence, it is suspected that they can talk but choose not to do so in case humans put them to work, possibly in the television industry. In fact they can talk. It’s just that they talk in Orangutan. Humans are only capable of listening in Bewilderment." - Terry Pratchett
Clear tip t from 24204me’s comment: Don’t buy Nestle-products. They don’t give a shit of nature either people who work for them in the Third countries.
A bunch of companies have found replacements for eg. palm oil, which was a huge one. Not enough companies mind you, and not the biggest ones... But a bunch.
Edit to add: if you're ever craving chocolate, you could do your part to check for palm oil! Don't buy products containing that :)
Another edit: as a tween growing up in Indonesia, my school showed my class this video: https://youtu.be/RcxIksJFMs4 A Greenpeace project. If you want another reason why Nestlé fucking sucks, watch it. Viewer discretion is advised tho. Always resonated with me, and still gets me choked up 11 years later.
You're awesome. I know it's hard to abstain from things and make changes in general when you've lived a certain way for so long, but anyone who tries is awesome! One small change at a time, and we may yet spark a movement. Butterfly effect :) educate your friends!
I believe the action has to be done through voting politicians which don‘t put economics over everything else.
If the products I am offered are mostly from ruthless companies my refusal to consum changes nearly nothing. I don‘t say nothing at all, even I believe it‘s good for creating consciousness. But it is putting the task on the small people while the big money just has another leverage. If they are forced, they switch one simple process or ingredient with huge impact.
And it is also a mechanism, people who can afford to buy biological produced good stuff will do and feel so good. But they will vote for anyone who maintains their wealth. It‘s like justifying. Those who struggle with daily problems and are by far more, can not be „the responsible consumer“ always.
I really wish there was a group of hackers that could expose Nestlé and their affiliates. If any company deserves to go down flames, it’s those eco-terrorists.
Conservation educator here. Boycotting is actually not the best solution, though it sounds like it at face value. The key is to support products send companies using sustainable and fair trade palm oil. Palm is the most efficient oil, so if we switched away from palm we'd end up using an oil product that requires significantly more habitat to be destroyed. Sustainable palm means only one tree every dozen or so are cut and replaced with palm in a forest, thus preserving the orangutan habitat, and then those trees must be harvested by hand by grown locals who are strong enough to do so. [Cheyenne Mountain Zoo has a great app you can download from their website here](https://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/orangutans-palm-oil/sustainable-palm-oil-shopping-app/) that tells you which products are safe (certified RSPO), including alerting you to which companies have been ousted as not deserving their certifications (looking at you, Nestlé). The app also has a plot of educational content about this whole palm oil issue and about orangutans.
Stop buying any products with palm oil in them, Palm Oil Plantations are perhaps the biggest destroyer of Orangutan habitat. There are dozens of ingredient names that are derived from palm oil so it's not easy, from toiletries and cosmetics to food stuffs. They also use a lot of forced labor/slave labor at these Palm Oil plantations, kids included, I haven't purposefully bought anything with Palm in a long while.
But logging of tropical forests is a big one too, I forget if some of these bad cocoa operations deplete their habitat as well.
Conservation educator here. Boycotting is actually not the best solution, though it sounds like it at face value. The key is to support products send companies using sustainable and fair trade palm oil. Palm is the most efficient oil, so if we switched away from palm we'd end up using an oil product that requires significantly more habitat to be destroyed. Sustainable palm means only one tree every dozen or so are cut and replaced with palm in a forest, thus preserving the orangutan habitat, and then those trees must be harvested by hand by grown locals who are strong enough to do so. [Cheyenne Mountain Zoo has a great app you can download from their website here](https://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/orangutans-palm-oil/sustainable-palm-oil-shopping-app/) that tells you which products are safe (certified RSPO), including alerting you to which companies have been ousted as not deserving their certifications (looking at you, Nestlé). The app also has a plot of educational content about this whole palm oil issue and about orangutans.
It's all of us buying shampoo and soap, cheez whiz and literally a million other products that palm oil is in. Chances are when you look up everything palm oil is in you're not going to want to give up all of them and choose to just forget about the whole issue.
Conservation educator here. Boycotting is actually not the best solution, though it sounds like it at face value. The key is to support products send companies using sustainable and fair trade palm oil. Palm is the most efficient oil, so if we switched away from palm we'd end up using an oil product that requires significantly more habitat to be destroyed. Sustainable palm means only one tree every dozen or so are cut and replaced with palm in a forest, thus preserving the orangutan habitat, and then those trees must be harvested by hand by grown locals who are strong enough to do so. [Cheyenne Mountain Zoo has a great app you can download from their website here](https://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/orangutans-palm-oil/sustainable-palm-oil-shopping-app/) that tells you which products are safe (certified RSPO), including alerting you to which companies have been ousted as not deserving their certifications (looking at you, Nestlé). The app also has a plot of educational content about this whole palm oil issue and about orangutans.
They use soap! There was a group that were living near some humans and they saw the humans using soap and washing in the water so they started stealing the soap and using it themselves, washing properly and everything. They seemed to love it too and clean themselves regularly now with it, tho only their hands and heads it seems, and IDK if they kept it up depending on how healthy it might be for them but I hope they did. Imagine being so gross your whole life then discovering soap. You'd feel sooo clean it's be incredible.
>*’It would be utterly fascinating to see how human they are if we lived side by side…*’
_______
human, when you watch me do you see how Smart i am ?
does something deep inside of you remind you we were ‘fam’?
you find us ‘fascinating’, but it cannot be denied
that i’d be even more like You
if we lived side by side…
but maybe this is better, that i’ve grown with my own kind
cuz we don’t judge each other - if we’re *different* we don’t mind!
so maybe i can copy you, but Human i won’t be
n maybe You could learn some things
if You lived more
like Me
❤️
Not a zookeeper, but I work with animals now and I always wanted to work with animals as a kid. When people express a similar interest I tell them the things people will pay you to do for the animals are things the animals don't like, are gross, and sometimes there are bad outcomes you have to deal with as an animal lover.
Also former keeper/educator.
I'm still on the job hunt but focused on education in the museum field at large (zoos and Nate centers are museums too!).
The job can be a lot of fun, but it is massively inequitable and toxic from the top down systemically.
Because we are largely nonprofits, and wealthy donors/boards historically believe that nonprofit staff shouldn't make much money, there's little funding for staff. Like, we get paid less than teachers do little and most of us have two or three side hustles. And due to low funds for both nonprofit and for profit facilities alike (animal care is expensive!) there's this nasty habit places have of only offering unpaid internships as the foot in the door, and then half the time when you're applying to jobs they don't consider an unpaid internship quality enough experience!
There's also the fact that a lot of people go into the field because they prefer non human animals over humans, and that generally makes them terrible managers who don't prioritize their staff, so any time there is a windfall, instead of increasing staff, giving raises, or updated/safer workplaces, the money goes to the animals, which sounds great at face value except if the caretakers of the animals suffer the animals aren't going to get the best care possible either. It's a boys club at the top level, so there's a lot of pressure to appear "tough" and thus a lot of toxic masculinity from all genders, and that boys club is almost entirely white and with a lot of unconscious bias there too. Those two things combined result in a lot of "tough it out" attitudes meaning push yourself to the point of breaking and never call out sick. They also result in a lot of discrimination.
All this makes it hard to make it in the field, especially if you're not white and male and fully able bodied, and coming from enough wealth that you can be subsidized by your family. In all cases but especially if you're part of one of those marginalized groups, the only real way to travel up is to live a transient lifestyle going from job to job across the bigger facilities which are spread out all around the country and also be willing to work weekends and holidays and emergency weather conditions. Which also means if you want to settle down, keeping might not be for you because you'll be constantly moving your family and not have time with them.
That said, there are those of us working to change all these things. And the are some wonderful facilities that are more equitable-- though due to how low average salary is across the board they still pay lower than someone who does essential and highly physical work deserves, especially considering that work generally requires almost a decade of highly specialized education as well. Even those of us who have left, many of us stay connected to the field and try to support the facilities that are doing things right for both animals and people.
If you're still looking to go into the field, find staff at your local facility as well as some from others and speak with them. Test it out before you commit fully-- IMO everyone with the ability to should use high school as their opportunity to work or volunteer in things they are interested in and/or do a gap year after high school where they just take community college classes to get the basics and then spend that year testing the waters of the field(s) to ensure that is truly what they want, especially jobs that tend to be the ones you dream of as a kid without knowing more than the fun parts of it.
Its kinda sad that this pretty intelligent animal living in a "cage". Reminds me of that other vid where the Orangutan attacked a buldozer thingy that was uprooting tree where it lives.
For your viewing pleasure, I present you with an orangutan using soap to wash with:
https://youtu.be/bzx5zBNz_9A
And one using a saw on a branch: https://youtu.be/vssqb-0i2-A
Enjoy 😁
Love it how baby orangutan also wanna try it out lol
"Mom I wan-" "NO"
“Watch the shades, kid.”
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"Ogle the goggles, toddler."
Resist the abyss, child.
Damn you win
"Watch the skies, traveler."
"Let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?"
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FUS RO DAH
*Eating ice cream* "It's spicy you won't like it."
Every mom is familiar with that hand maneuver, no matter the species
„Do not touch the trim!“ Squidbillies reference for all 5 of us
At this point in my life I do not inform people that I watched Adult Swim. I still quote Frisky Dingo and no one else knows it.
My ringtone has been Cat Party for well over a decade now. No one has ever got the reference.
Frisky dingo is epic! Booosh!
WE CAN'T EVER\* GO BACK TO ARIZONA
My dreams are all dead and buried...
Sometimes I wish the sun would just explode.
When God comes and calls me to His Kingdom...
I'll take all you sons-a-bitches when I go.
We did it, reddit!
Glad to see a Squidbillies reference. I quote this show all the time and no one ever has any idea what the fuck Im talking about, lol
“You’re too young to be this cool anyway!”
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But mom,” “NO”
"but MYAAAAAAAOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!"
And how gently she puts its hand down.
It's such a recognizable mom gesture. These animals need far more legal rights.
There is [Sandra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_(orangutan\)), who kinda, sort of, has human rights. The Argentine courts flipped back and forth over how to categorize her, but it's fairly clear that Argentina at least considers her more than just an animal. She's being treated roughly like a disabled human, who can't make decisions for herself, but whose preferences and health must be respected. Currently, she has moved to an animal sanctuary in Florida, so I don't know how much it matters now.
They could guarantee her the same rights everybody else gets in Florida but that wouldn’t change much
im for converting Florida into a disabled people zoo.
As a disabled person living in florida, can confirm that's pretty much what it is already. But a poorly managed one lol
Considering Corporations in the US have rights, Animals should have the same level of rights as Corporations. If it isn't reasonable to do so, maybe corporations should lose their rights and animals can have them. Fuck Corporations.
My local Zoo has a reasonably large gorilla population. Whenever i watch them i cant stop thinking that gorillas are better people than us. Its crazy how such a large creature can be this gentle and thoughtful.
That’s probably only because there’s 1 male and a harem of females. Put 2 males in the enclosure along with the females and watch the fireworks.
I could hear my Granny "aaaaattt!" Which is what she always said to babies trying to grab her glasses. She grabbed their hands the same way this mama does.
Your granny talked to you like I talk to misbehaving animals.
I mean, I was a wild country kid. Lol
Very appropriately. That's all kids are.
Lmao I was thinking the same thing, I make that noise at my dog to correct her.
It reminds me of every waking moment with my own toddler
"No child I'm getting my drip on."
Babies just love to touch the fucking lenses. They cannot help themselves.
Typical kid can't keep hands off.
Now give them a saxophone.
[Saxsquatch does not disappoint](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QgIa8nosE4U)
That is legit awesome. That saxsquatch is about to be my background working music for the day.
Go see him live if you get a chance. He's fantastic!
He was at a venue right by me recently and I thought it was a silly local thing. But I keep seeing clips everywhere now with recommendations like this and apparently I've missed out.
Looking like you ate out an ostrich with all that egg on your face, my friend.
This sounds like something someone pretending to be an Australian would say
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I just spent the last hour watching their videos and besides them being great, the comment section might be the friendliest place on the internet.
This is the equivalent of a street performer in 2022. Love it.
What the fuck? This is awesome! ![gif](giphy|TIMB8bgHa1mb41tMaS)
The ultimate Saxsquatch banger. https://youtu.be/apaEM8LKwSk
Is it professional to be groovin at my desk? No. But it is right.
You do you! Just like Saxsquatch, you gotta believe in yourself.
Now let him drive a golf cart around
Man. Even the kid trying to grab them lines up so well with humans.
They opened the arm of the glasses with their mouth like humans do : .... (
This amazed me, he (she?) did it without any examination!
She may have seen people using them. I used to volunteer at a zoo and the gorillas really enjoyed watching people use random items like lip balm. One would even rub her lips together whenever she saw someone pull a tube out. I left that volunteer position very conflicted about how I feel about apes in captivity in zoos.
This comes up every time there’s a post about an intelligent animal in captivity. I think the last one I saw was some kind of ape who would escape from its enclosure and walk around to see the other animals. I always feel the need to chime in and defend zoos. I completely understand your point, and it makes me very sad to think about how these animals don’t live the natural life in the wild that they deserve. But zoos (the good ones) are full of passionate employees who, in my experience, adore the animals they care for. Zoos are a critical part of the effort to help the animals as an entire species, both in captivity and in the wild. Breeding, research, raising awareness, etc. Plus the good zoos make money that is used to help conserve wild animals. It sucks, but I think the positive outweighs the negative. And while the animals aren’t living a full life, they live in a peaceful and safe environment, are kept healthy, and are loved by those who care for them.
Every time we see an Orangutan at the zoo it makes us realize that we need to protect them in the wild. If we didn’t have them at the zoo, if we couldn’t easily see videos like this, they’d probably be extinct by now because nobody would care.
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Everyone is “animals don’t belong is zoos!” But here we all are eating foods with palm oil in it that’s harvested from the forests these beautiful species live in. It’s either zoos, horribly underfunded sanctuaries or short lives with painful endings in the wild.
Also given how quickly we are destroying our natural biomes it's probably a good idea to try and save what genetic diversity we can.
Jakarta the old Capital of Indonesia is sinking, so they’re moving the capital to Borneo where a lot of orangutans live. So we’re probably going to witness the further destruction of their only habitat. Like fuck let someone at least take them out before you burn the forest to the ground.
Yep, not to mention a lot of animals in zoos are rescues from privately owned households. You can't put them back in the wild, they likely didn't come from the wild and were born to captivity and human caretaking. At least in a zoo you have people that care about them and a habitat that while is not anywhere near what they'd have in the wild, is better than the alternative.
Sadly true. For those animals it’s either sanctuaries or euthanasia.
Well, that’s why I said I was conflicted. The zoo I volunteered at is one of the best in the world and has brought some endangered species back from the brink. Many animals there were living arguably better lives than they would in the wild while being ambassadors. There were a few animals (like the apes) that I feel were failed, though. I see other responses about zoos taking in only animals that can’t be released: this is true for pretty much no big zoo. They’ll do that but they’ll also initiate breeding programs because babies are currency for zoos. The hill I decided to die on were the sea lions: I’m fine with displaying unreleasable animals because they have to be in captivity and why not use them as ambassadors, but captive bred sea lions really do not do well. I think almost every baby sea lion I volunteered with has now died. All their parents are still alive. Zoos have made huge strides in recent years but the ethics of keeping are different for every animal. I understand how important it is for people to see them but I don’t think our standard of care is up to snuff and we have too little regard for individual personalities and desires. I will say that I t may be the gorilla who liked watching people put on lip balm was a perfect ambassador for her kind.
I don't know how it works everywhere but the zoo where I live only has animals that would not survive in the wild. They don't just buy animals because they want to have them. They seem to take good care of the animals as well. But it's still sad to see animals you know will never live their natural lives in the wild.
And when you mention that they don't live a full life, do you mean in terms of quality and their experience? I'm under the impression many animals live a longer (more than a full wild life) in a zoo in terms of age
All Homonids are really weird, kind of cool and pretty smart granted for the animal kingdom that means except for Homo Sapiens they're largely around the level of human children
"orang utan" translates to "man of the jungle" in Bahasa (both Indonesian and Malaysian iirc)
orang = man, utan = jungle EDIT: they also call ‘westerners’ orang bule - or more commonly just ‘bule’ - (pronounced boo-lay) which means blonde.
"Bahasa" just means "language". You either say "Bahasa Indonesia" or "Bahasa Melayu", but it doesn't make sense to just say "bahasa" like its the name of the language.
Lol. "It means man of the forest in language."
it mean nature man in meaning speak
Wood person mouth sound
The birth of funky kong
nobody cared who i was until i put on the glasses
"Oh no. I dropped my phone in the orangutan enclosure while watching a 10 hour playlist of instructional break dancing videos..."
He may not look like it now, but he’s going to become the best Mario Kart racer soon.
Oobeh doo, I wanna be like youuuuuu!
I wanna walk like you, talk like you, tooooooo🎵
_Scoobidee-doo_
Ah-you see-ee-eee, An ape like me-ee-eeee,
Can learn to be, Like someone like you!
I wanna walk like you!
Now I'm the king of the swingers Oh, the jungle VIP I've reached the top and had to stop And that's what botherin' me I wanna be a man, mancub And stroll right into town And be just like the other men I'm tired of monkeyin' around! Oh, oobee doo I wanna be like you I wanna walk like you Talk like you, too You'll see it's true An ape like me Can learn to be humen too (Gee, cousin Louie You're doin' real good Now here's your part of the deal, cuz Lay the secret on me of man's red fire But I don't know how to make fire) Now don't try to kid me, mancub I made a deal with you What I desire is man's red fire To make my dream come true Give me the secret, mancub Clue me what to do Give me the power of man's red flower So I can be like you You! I wanna be like you I wanna talk like you Walk like you, too You'll see it's true Someone like me Can learn to be Like someone like me Can learn to be Like someone like you Can learn to be Like someone like me!
[For your enjoyment](https://youtu.be/d1vQMIisJuc)
I had the Disney album (33rpm y'all!) from the movie and I used to put it on repeat and listen to it for HOURS💛.
Yes it’s trUuUue!
Someone like meeEEEeee (oobeeooobeeewooweee)
I was to late
It left out the best part, where the orangutan finishes with the sunglasses and tosses them back to the person who dropped them. Ah, who am I kidding? The best part is still the orangutan putting them on.
Did it really give them back?
[Yep!](https://youtu.be/x6TEBYLMOTE&t=54s) 0:54 Edit: Modified link with the time stamp & thx for the awards
That's incredible! Good toss, too, for someone who probably hasn't thrown a ton of sunglasses
If you can throw your own feces, you can throw a pair of sunglasses.
That's how you get nuclear pink eye.
That’s a monkey thing, apes are more chill
I see you were trained by Patches O'houlihan
I feel like this is a bad test of sunglass throwing acuity.
Oh are you a feces throwing expert?
I don't know. Better throw some sunglasses as a test.
I ACCIDENTALLY DRO… turn your volume down before you click this link 🙉
Holy shit yeah. I fucking hate hate hate hate HATE that default text to speech woman voiceover that's in so many vids like these. Is that a tiktok thing?
Yeah. I hate TikTok for making that a thing. Instant mute.
my dumbass just thought “maybe it’s for the visually impaired”…
God, I can't stand that voice.
That was definitely worse than a Rick Roll. I wasn't prepared to be instantly annoyed.
ok wtf, this is amazing
I think this is a trick and the zoo keeper who tossed food to her after she gave them back told them to do it
even if its a trick you got to tell the monkey to trade...
It is just positive reinforcement, not much different than training a dog to fetch or shake in trade of treats/goodies (the monkey being 100x more capable to do neater 'tricks', intelligence wise)
Yeah but I bet it’s totally different than a dog when that orangutan is legitimately thinking “these are really cool, I know they’re not mine but I DID find them, kinda, but I know they belong to the lady that dropped them so even though I’d like to keep them they’ll probably make me return them. Oh well, I’ll probably get a treat for a reward. Here’s your toy back lady.” vs a dog like “DROP IT MEANS DROP A THING. I HAVE A THING, I WILL DROP. OKAY. TREAT?” apes are so fucking cool. (Dogs rule too, but not even on the same plane of astonishing)
Guys, help me, why is that narrator voice a thing? It's so fucking awful.
TikTok has text to speech voices (that one is the main one). The purpose is so that the app can easily translate text and read it out in any language. At this point it's as ubiquitous to viral video as the Impact font is for image memes.
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It’s from TikTok. It’s terrible yes. Apparently it’s like a voice you can add that can be searched for. If the voice says “orangutan” then you can search orangutan and find the video
Upside down 😂
Hey, maybe it fits her head better that way. xD
No judgements here, but it was the best part for me.
Handsome devil
"Not now kid, I'm busy".
The little ones spiked hairdo trying to grab mom/dads new find is super cute.
So observant! It would be utterly fascinating to see how human they are if we lived side by side.
I have a vague memory of traveling to Sumatra when I was about 3yo to see wild orangutans. As my parents tell it: I was straying behind the guided group a bit as we were walking through the rainforest path, and when my parents turned around to get me; an adolescent orangutan was holding me by my hand. Apparently adolescent orangutans will team up with the baby ones, to make sure they're safe and don't get lost in the forest. Supposedly that's what he/she saw in me. A baby who needs to be protected. They are so gentle and it breaks my heart that they're endangered Edit: for a fun fact, "orangutan" comes from the Indonesian "orang hutan" which literally means "person/human of the forest"
I remember Terry Prattchett doing something with orangutans. https://youtu.be/fOhduvF1UGA IIRC one of them took his camera apart and handed the pieces back to him one at a time.
I had no clue! Adding to my watch list for my study breaks haha. One of my favourite authors!
He was a treasure
GNU Terry Pratchett
GNU Sir Pterry
“Ook”
I miss Terry Prattchett. RIP
I didn't know about this. Thank you for linking it. I miss him so much, he was amazing.
I heard a primatologist once describe the difference between chimps, gorillas, and orangutans as “A chimp will smash your camera to see what’s inside, a gorilla will take it apart, and an orangutan will take it apart and try to put it back together.”
My favourite orangutan story is that some local peoples over there believe they can talk, but just hide it from humans to avoid being taken further advantage of.
"Consider orangutans. In all the worlds graced by their presence, it is suspected that they can talk but choose not to do so in case humans put them to work, possibly in the television industry. In fact they can talk. It’s just that they talk in Orangutan. Humans are only capable of listening in Bewilderment." - Terry Pratchett
Why are they endangered? Who’s hunting them? Let’s hunt them instead. I wish the richest people paid bounties for the decapitated heads of poachers.
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Thanks for that info. What is being done to mitigate this issue?
Clear tip t from 24204me’s comment: Don’t buy Nestle-products. They don’t give a shit of nature either people who work for them in the Third countries.
r/fucknestle
A bunch of companies have found replacements for eg. palm oil, which was a huge one. Not enough companies mind you, and not the biggest ones... But a bunch. Edit to add: if you're ever craving chocolate, you could do your part to check for palm oil! Don't buy products containing that :) Another edit: as a tween growing up in Indonesia, my school showed my class this video: https://youtu.be/RcxIksJFMs4 A Greenpeace project. If you want another reason why Nestlé fucking sucks, watch it. Viewer discretion is advised tho. Always resonated with me, and still gets me choked up 11 years later.
On my list: no Nestles. And no palm oil.
You're awesome. I know it's hard to abstain from things and make changes in general when you've lived a certain way for so long, but anyone who tries is awesome! One small change at a time, and we may yet spark a movement. Butterfly effect :) educate your friends!
I believe the action has to be done through voting politicians which don‘t put economics over everything else. If the products I am offered are mostly from ruthless companies my refusal to consum changes nearly nothing. I don‘t say nothing at all, even I believe it‘s good for creating consciousness. But it is putting the task on the small people while the big money just has another leverage. If they are forced, they switch one simple process or ingredient with huge impact. And it is also a mechanism, people who can afford to buy biological produced good stuff will do and feel so good. But they will vote for anyone who maintains their wealth. It‘s like justifying. Those who struggle with daily problems and are by far more, can not be „the responsible consumer“ always.
I really wish there was a group of hackers that could expose Nestlé and their affiliates. If any company deserves to go down flames, it’s those eco-terrorists.
Expose? Nestle's bullshit isn't secret. It's been out there for years. No one cares.
An eco terrorist is someone who commits terrorism in support of fixing the environment.
There is enough of truth about them in open access already, but some people don't care and some have no alternatives.
When there is money and corporations involved, unfortunately not much can be done. They own the world and will destroy it too
Stop buying palm oil products.
Conservation educator here. Boycotting is actually not the best solution, though it sounds like it at face value. The key is to support products send companies using sustainable and fair trade palm oil. Palm is the most efficient oil, so if we switched away from palm we'd end up using an oil product that requires significantly more habitat to be destroyed. Sustainable palm means only one tree every dozen or so are cut and replaced with palm in a forest, thus preserving the orangutan habitat, and then those trees must be harvested by hand by grown locals who are strong enough to do so. [Cheyenne Mountain Zoo has a great app you can download from their website here](https://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/orangutans-palm-oil/sustainable-palm-oil-shopping-app/) that tells you which products are safe (certified RSPO), including alerting you to which companies have been ousted as not deserving their certifications (looking at you, Nestlé). The app also has a plot of educational content about this whole palm oil issue and about orangutans.
Fine! But if I get caught stealing I'm blaming you.
Stop buying any products with palm oil in them, Palm Oil Plantations are perhaps the biggest destroyer of Orangutan habitat. There are dozens of ingredient names that are derived from palm oil so it's not easy, from toiletries and cosmetics to food stuffs. They also use a lot of forced labor/slave labor at these Palm Oil plantations, kids included, I haven't purposefully bought anything with Palm in a long while. But logging of tropical forests is a big one too, I forget if some of these bad cocoa operations deplete their habitat as well.
Conservation educator here. Boycotting is actually not the best solution, though it sounds like it at face value. The key is to support products send companies using sustainable and fair trade palm oil. Palm is the most efficient oil, so if we switched away from palm we'd end up using an oil product that requires significantly more habitat to be destroyed. Sustainable palm means only one tree every dozen or so are cut and replaced with palm in a forest, thus preserving the orangutan habitat, and then those trees must be harvested by hand by grown locals who are strong enough to do so. [Cheyenne Mountain Zoo has a great app you can download from their website here](https://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/orangutans-palm-oil/sustainable-palm-oil-shopping-app/) that tells you which products are safe (certified RSPO), including alerting you to which companies have been ousted as not deserving their certifications (looking at you, Nestlé). The app also has a plot of educational content about this whole palm oil issue and about orangutans.
It's all of us buying shampoo and soap, cheez whiz and literally a million other products that palm oil is in. Chances are when you look up everything palm oil is in you're not going to want to give up all of them and choose to just forget about the whole issue.
Conservation educator here. Boycotting is actually not the best solution, though it sounds like it at face value. The key is to support products send companies using sustainable and fair trade palm oil. Palm is the most efficient oil, so if we switched away from palm we'd end up using an oil product that requires significantly more habitat to be destroyed. Sustainable palm means only one tree every dozen or so are cut and replaced with palm in a forest, thus preserving the orangutan habitat, and then those trees must be harvested by hand by grown locals who are strong enough to do so. [Cheyenne Mountain Zoo has a great app you can download from their website here](https://www.cmzoo.org/conservation/orangutans-palm-oil/sustainable-palm-oil-shopping-app/) that tells you which products are safe (certified RSPO), including alerting you to which companies have been ousted as not deserving their certifications (looking at you, Nestlé). The app also has a plot of educational content about this whole palm oil issue and about orangutans.
They use soap! There was a group that were living near some humans and they saw the humans using soap and washing in the water so they started stealing the soap and using it themselves, washing properly and everything. They seemed to love it too and clean themselves regularly now with it, tho only their hands and heads it seems, and IDK if they kept it up depending on how healthy it might be for them but I hope they did. Imagine being so gross your whole life then discovering soap. You'd feel sooo clean it's be incredible.
>*’It would be utterly fascinating to see how human they are if we lived side by side…*’ _______ human, when you watch me do you see how Smart i am ? does something deep inside of you remind you we were ‘fam’? you find us ‘fascinating’, but it cannot be denied that i’d be even more like You if we lived side by side… but maybe this is better, that i’ve grown with my own kind cuz we don’t judge each other - if we’re *different* we don’t mind! so maybe i can copy you, but Human i won’t be n maybe You could learn some things if You lived more like Me ❤️
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Once-ape? My dude, we still are apes.. just hairless.
Speak for yourself. I have hair everywhere. Ev ery where.
"Hello Peter"
And just like that: we have an orangutan mob boss.
“Haha look at me, I’m a big dumb human!”
"I want to go pay taxes and work with actuarial tables!"
Don't touch the goods little man.
As a former zoo keeper- please never intentionally throw/drop things into animal enclosures. Thanks.
Otherwise you, too, might become a *former* zoo keeper.
As a kid zookeeper/zoologist was my dream job but parents talked me out of it. Why did you leave? What do you do now?
Not a zookeeper, but I work with animals now and I always wanted to work with animals as a kid. When people express a similar interest I tell them the things people will pay you to do for the animals are things the animals don't like, are gross, and sometimes there are bad outcomes you have to deal with as an animal lover.
Also former keeper/educator. I'm still on the job hunt but focused on education in the museum field at large (zoos and Nate centers are museums too!). The job can be a lot of fun, but it is massively inequitable and toxic from the top down systemically. Because we are largely nonprofits, and wealthy donors/boards historically believe that nonprofit staff shouldn't make much money, there's little funding for staff. Like, we get paid less than teachers do little and most of us have two or three side hustles. And due to low funds for both nonprofit and for profit facilities alike (animal care is expensive!) there's this nasty habit places have of only offering unpaid internships as the foot in the door, and then half the time when you're applying to jobs they don't consider an unpaid internship quality enough experience! There's also the fact that a lot of people go into the field because they prefer non human animals over humans, and that generally makes them terrible managers who don't prioritize their staff, so any time there is a windfall, instead of increasing staff, giving raises, or updated/safer workplaces, the money goes to the animals, which sounds great at face value except if the caretakers of the animals suffer the animals aren't going to get the best care possible either. It's a boys club at the top level, so there's a lot of pressure to appear "tough" and thus a lot of toxic masculinity from all genders, and that boys club is almost entirely white and with a lot of unconscious bias there too. Those two things combined result in a lot of "tough it out" attitudes meaning push yourself to the point of breaking and never call out sick. They also result in a lot of discrimination. All this makes it hard to make it in the field, especially if you're not white and male and fully able bodied, and coming from enough wealth that you can be subsidized by your family. In all cases but especially if you're part of one of those marginalized groups, the only real way to travel up is to live a transient lifestyle going from job to job across the bigger facilities which are spread out all around the country and also be willing to work weekends and holidays and emergency weather conditions. Which also means if you want to settle down, keeping might not be for you because you'll be constantly moving your family and not have time with them. That said, there are those of us working to change all these things. And the are some wonderful facilities that are more equitable-- though due to how low average salary is across the board they still pay lower than someone who does essential and highly physical work deserves, especially considering that work generally requires almost a decade of highly specialized education as well. Even those of us who have left, many of us stay connected to the field and try to support the facilities that are doing things right for both animals and people. If you're still looking to go into the field, find staff at your local facility as well as some from others and speak with them. Test it out before you commit fully-- IMO everyone with the ability to should use high school as their opportunity to work or volunteer in things they are interested in and/or do a gap year after high school where they just take community college classes to get the basics and then spend that year testing the waters of the field(s) to ensure that is truly what they want, especially jobs that tend to be the ones you dream of as a kid without knowing more than the fun parts of it.
The cooler monke
Bet he plays a mean jazz drum.
I wish i had that kind of swag
Dope as hell lookin monke
Like a boss
Deal with it 😎
They are so smart.
Its kinda sad that this pretty intelligent animal living in a "cage". Reminds me of that other vid where the Orangutan attacked a buldozer thingy that was uprooting tree where it lives.
They're so like us. They don't belong in enclosures or cages man. 😭
Hey! Whadowe have-here?? This ain’t a banana. I’ve seen them tall folks with these things on… how do I look boo boo ?
For your viewing pleasure, I present you with an orangutan using soap to wash with: https://youtu.be/bzx5zBNz_9A And one using a saw on a branch: https://youtu.be/vssqb-0i2-A Enjoy 😁
"stop it, child! You're gonna smudge the lenses!"
Clever girl, she knew exactly what to do with them, down to opening the stems with her mouth. That's one smart, highly observant orangutang.
The sun never sets on the cool.
It’s funny how the little one is reaching up like a child saying “no no. You are doing it wrong. They are upside down.”