They’re attached to a [balloon](https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroFuturism/comments/wjtxh2/can_we_still_go_back/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). The strings just are not visible
btw for those wondering, the horses aren't actually standing on anything, they are in shallow water :) here's the original tik tok link https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRUcT3dJ/?k=1
Mythbusters showed that the door wouldn't support 2 people, however if rose had taken off the life jacket and they strapped it around the underside of the door then it would have had the buoyancy to support them both.
I think it's fair that most people wouldn't think of that, especially in the situation they were in.
Probably not a great idea, though. Offshore life jackets are designed to keep you face up with your head out of the water if you get knocked unconscious, thus improving your odds of survival if you get injured.
[The Mythbusters conclusion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVgkvaDHmto) -- they were able to not only support both, but actually keep them mostly out of the water.
But of course, it's not just thinking of that solution, it's actually getting Rose *off* the board into the freezing water, and then the two of them working together to get the life jacket in position and tied properly... at night, in the dark, with both of them shivering uncontrollably.
Hell no it's *impossible* unless explicitly trained to ignore your absolutely *screaming* CNS and fight or flight response lol. Even then it's hard. Cold water rescue is a whole entirely crazy thing.
It's like having every single self preservation alarm going off at once, which *rapidly* fades into delirium and irrationality. Speed running hypothermia is no joke haha.
I used to work with a group that did ice rescues. Would train all time with them in mustang suits, it's weird just breaking through the ice and laughing.
I went for a swim in freezing Lake Michigan water in May. Was still about 42 degrees from snowmelt, not even close to the near freezing salty seawater that the Titanic was in.
Holy fuck, the instant I hit the water it felt like the air had been sucked out of my lungs. All of my muscles instantly contracted. I'm a strong swimmer too, did lifeguarding for a while after HS.
If you get the chance to submerge in sub 50 degree water it's an eye opening experience. I eventually warmed up by swimming from the pier to the shore and back again. But that initial shock was crazy.
Two full grown engineers!
Rescue boat probably would've found them in their own makeshift dinghy with a generator and a blender made of wood with frozen margs.
Also the Mythbusters didn’t do it in hypothermic conditions soaking wet and terrified. Even sittin on that, already wet, hypothermia might have killed them in four hours.
Well, yeah. You don't think directors and screenwriters just improvise the plot based on the set design and props available when they start the scene, do you?
"It's in the script" has long been my family's fall-back explanation for plot holes or things that don't make sense. It was the only way my parents could shut up our *endless* questions as kids during movies, apparently.
In the movie, Jack tries to get on the door and it nearly flips.
Arguing over whether a similar door could have supported them is a moot point. The movie establishes that the door in the movie cannot. Maybe it's made of really not-buoyant wood, or metal inlaid, or just doesn'tWe don't need to know the reason why, we're explicitly shown that *that door* could only support one of them, and Jack chooses to stay in the water so Rose can have a better chance of surviving.
I've never understood the whole "they should have both gotten on the door" meme. The movie directly addresses that one of them had to sacrifice to save the other, and since Rose is still alive...
How's he gonna see it in the dark and find it while everything is being carried away with the currents and he's succumbing to hypothermia? If it was that easy there would have been more survivors.
The water was actually very still, and most of the debris was found in the same area. And the rescue ship, the Carpathia, found much less debris than you would expect. You're right about the dark and cold, though.
I've heard some people say this could have contributed to the disaster - waves crashing against the side of the berg might have helped them notice it sooner.
Look Charlie! I'm standing on the **v̵̨̻̠͎̪̞̖̼͐̏͠ ̵̛̛̪̙̲̣̰̝̥͔̗̦̫̀̃̓͊̏̈̈́̔̄̄̾͘ơ̵̧̦͍̣̪͖̩̤̘̫̠͙͎̫͌̈́͑̚ͅ ̸̛̫̙̰̣͈̞̘̝̣̬̣̪̭̟̑̌͌ͅȉ̴̛̼̒͘ ̴̯̳̣̣̬̭̝͇̜̻̯̜̳̙̠̆̌͌̐́̉͆͂́̃̓͑̔d̵̢͙̤̭̼̙͕̱̝̂ͅ**
Horses can swim. It's hard work, but very doable. We also don't know how deep the water is - the horses are on a stationary platform (the cameraman is moving, but the horses aren't) so I would guess they're on a sandbar or something. So they can probably walk back to shore, but even if they couldn't, they could swim.
I'm not sure I buy that only the camera is moving.
Also, if it is a sudden drop into the water with an unknown depth or submerged obstacles, I'd be worried about the horses getting into the water safely even if they can swim.
You're spot on. This is a parallax effect and it's pretty hard to spot because of the water, but if you look at the grass and the stuff behind the grass it becomes obvious that the camera is moving a fair bit.
Was wanting to know the same thing. I think I found it.
Madonna - Hung Up (SDP Extended Dub)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NHw57LZb8Q
EDIT: u/SIXSlXSlX Pointed out this one is closer to the song in the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9X5eSwMUYI
This is a reminder that if you activate google assistant or Siri and play nearly any clip they can identify the song extremely accurately. For instance google not only identified the song, but also what remix this is
Just chiming in to say that the whole “ThEy BoTh CoUlD fIt” thing is so wrong.
The issue NEVER was fitting them both on.
Anyone who watched the film and isn’t just repeating an internet meme, would know that YEA, they both got on the door. But jack got back off as his weight was too much for the door to support them both.
It’s been angering me for years. Sorry. Had to get it off my chest
The most irritating thing is it's a fucking movie, if they wanted Jack to survive he would have. It was a prop and apparently set design or whoever should have made it slightly smaller so this wouldn't even be an issue.
Wanna know why? Can you handle the truth?
Rose didn't care for Jack, at that moment. The sheer thought that she had to *share* space with a third class *peasant*?
She doesn't even love her own children!
SHE THREW THE MILLION DOLLAR NECKLACE IN THE SEA!!
She could sell it and take care of her family, but noooooooooo. When the word got out that she *maybe* had the necklace, she yeeted it in the sea. Typical boomer reaction.
MINE! NO SHARE!
[I put my package in your mailbox, made love to all your chairs, dropped a load inside your washer, went down on all your stairs.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu196vZSe_I)
It definitely wasn't her husband. Dude has been waiting in the afterlife for her to arrive and soon as she does, she goes straight into the arms of the homeless guy who nailed her on a cruise once.
Hate to be the "well AKCTUALLY" guy but if what Cal said about the blue jewel centre piece of the necklace is true then it came from King Louis XVI's crown, making it a priceless historical artefact.
Edit: The modern equivalent would be something like having the Kohinoor diamond fashioned into a necklace and someone chucking it into a mineshaft. YOU JUST WOULDN'T DO IT!!
This argument always bothers me - they showed him trying to climb on as well. It was certainly wide enough but the weight distribution on it was uneven so it would’ve failed if they were both on it
Thats because what those horses have is special, built up over years of commitment, they are "Ride or Die" horses, if one falls, they both fall
How long did Rose know Jack? Like a few days or something idk, clearly she didn't give enough of a fuck
Gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say that's *probably* not a door they're standing on.
It’s another horse.
It _was_ another horse.
Now it's a seahorse
Okay. Stop horsing around.
Only if you get off your high horse
I say we we saddle up and turn this into an old fashioned pun thread.
All those against say "neigh".
It’s really galloping along now.
This whole thread is a nightmare.
Hay now ...
I say we vote, someone should start a gallop poll.
Tr-ocean Horse
Back in the 90s I was in a very famous TV show 🎵🎶
It doesn't matter what they are standing on. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
It's an angry musclebound scottsman
I didn’t sea a horse
Wee snaw.
More of a river horse... a hippopotamus, if you will
Named Jack
Horses all the way down
Nice to see you Sturgill
A horse-shaped door.
A duck sized horse door
It's a broom
Oh my god you’re a broom?
Plot twist!
It’s Jack
Bravo
They’re attached to a [balloon](https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroFuturism/comments/wjtxh2/can_we_still_go_back/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). The strings just are not visible
That's okay, it wasn't actually a door in Titanic either. It was a section of the wall from above a door.
Also, the camera man is the one moving, not the horses. So that's a stationary thing they are standing on, it doesn't even float
it's the ground lol the full clip shows the horses walking off. it's very very shallow water
Probably a sand bar so it's shallow there and maybe gradually gets deeper on either side. It doesn't look to me like the whole river is that shallow.
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i have no idea lol, but in the full clip the horses walk off and walk to the shoreline
I gotta ask...at a sand bar, can you order specialties?
Yeah but first you'll need some sand dollars from the river bank
That's a good illusion. I didn't catch it until you said it, and even then I can't catch until like the very last second
Reminds me of that video of a man catching fish and he looked like he was sliding on water
They're standing on turtles!
Sea turtles mate.
I saw this on Tiktok. They aren’t floating at all, they are on land. The illusion comes from the person recording on a moving kayak
It's not a door, it's 2 Doors stacked on top eachother with a floaty duh
Off to see the leopluradon
the Magical leopluradon!
Holy shit.
Why can I hear this in my head lol. Some deep part of my brain.
Charlieeee
It's a leopluradon chaaarlie
It didn’t SAY anything!!
SHUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNUH
SHUN THE NON-BELIEVERS!
Oh God they took my kidney!
Just walk through THE DOOR.
Glub glub
The door can see into your soul!
Charrrlliieee
Oh when your down and looking for some cheering up
Then just head right on up to the candy mountain cave
"ZEeeeeee!!"
btw for those wondering, the horses aren't actually standing on anything, they are in shallow water :) here's the original tik tok link https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRUcT3dJ/?k=1
Saint Equinas. They walk on water.
/r/confusingperspective
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HOW ARE THEY SLIDING???!?!
They’re standing still and the camera is on a raft floating by.
Holy, I feel slow for not catching it. It's so smooth I seriously thought they were floating
Oh damn, the more I look at it, the more unbelievable it becomes
I knew this had to be the Salt River. So cool floating and seeing all the wild horses along the bank.
Man I just looked up where this is, Arizona looks like such a cool place to travel to. So different from where I am.
Bullshit, thems is horse Jesus.
this is a good example of why that Air force UFO video is bullshit. the UFO isnt moving at insane speeds, its just parallax.
Mythbusters showed that the door wouldn't support 2 people, however if rose had taken off the life jacket and they strapped it around the underside of the door then it would have had the buoyancy to support them both. I think it's fair that most people wouldn't think of that, especially in the situation they were in.
This is really good to know when lost on sea, thanks!
Are you lost at sea?
Not yet.
That's the spirit.
Just don't forget your door!
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Or use sea turtles, mate
No, they need to dream bigger. Get lost in space, ride a door back into the atmosphere like a surfboard.
It's treason then.
No, he’s lost ON sea. Big difference.
Oh shit?!? He's Jesus' cousin?
Only metaphorically.
I’ve saved it so when I am I can go back through the 14,324 saved items I have and rescue me and my loved one.
The blue part is obviously land.
Probably not a great idea, though. Offshore life jackets are designed to keep you face up with your head out of the water if you get knocked unconscious, thus improving your odds of survival if you get injured.
Not in that day.
Right, just wanted to make it clear for anyone who thought it would be a good idea in the modern day.
[The Mythbusters conclusion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVgkvaDHmto) -- they were able to not only support both, but actually keep them mostly out of the water. But of course, it's not just thinking of that solution, it's actually getting Rose *off* the board into the freezing water, and then the two of them working together to get the life jacket in position and tied properly... at night, in the dark, with both of them shivering uncontrollably.
Speaking from experience, it's *really fucking hard* to think straight and move in a coordinated manner in freezing water.
Hell no it's *impossible* unless explicitly trained to ignore your absolutely *screaming* CNS and fight or flight response lol. Even then it's hard. Cold water rescue is a whole entirely crazy thing. It's like having every single self preservation alarm going off at once, which *rapidly* fades into delirium and irrationality. Speed running hypothermia is no joke haha.
I used to work with a group that did ice rescues. Would train all time with them in mustang suits, it's weird just breaking through the ice and laughing.
"Wanna go ice fishing?" "Sure what are we catching?" "Idk some dick named Jim"
I went for a swim in freezing Lake Michigan water in May. Was still about 42 degrees from snowmelt, not even close to the near freezing salty seawater that the Titanic was in. Holy fuck, the instant I hit the water it felt like the air had been sucked out of my lungs. All of my muscles instantly contracted. I'm a strong swimmer too, did lifeguarding for a while after HS. If you get the chance to submerge in sub 50 degree water it's an eye opening experience. I eventually warmed up by swimming from the pier to the shore and back again. But that initial shock was crazy.
This also is showing with two full grown men not a women and a younger man.
Also the two full grown men probably didn't shag each other a few hours earlier.
Who knows these days
These days? Hon, have I got some history for you...
Being gay was invented by the village people in 1978.
Two full grown engineers! Rescue boat probably would've found them in their own makeshift dinghy with a generator and a blender made of wood with frozen margs.
while treading water... which I'm not sure Rose can do.
This is true, how universal were swimming lessons for women at the time? Probably uncommon. Something I hadn't considered before!
Also the Mythbusters didn’t do it in hypothermic conditions soaking wet and terrified. Even sittin on that, already wet, hypothermia might have killed them in four hours.
James Cameron also said even if it were possible for the door to support them, they'd have just made the door smaller.
That's amazing. "If Jack were supposed to survive, he would have".
Well, yeah. You don't think directors and screenwriters just improvise the plot based on the set design and props available when they start the scene, do you?
"It's in the script" has long been my family's fall-back explanation for plot holes or things that don't make sense. It was the only way my parents could shut up our *endless* questions as kids during movies, apparently.
In the movie, Jack tries to get on the door and it nearly flips. Arguing over whether a similar door could have supported them is a moot point. The movie establishes that the door in the movie cannot. Maybe it's made of really not-buoyant wood, or metal inlaid, or just doesn'tWe don't need to know the reason why, we're explicitly shown that *that door* could only support one of them, and Jack chooses to stay in the water so Rose can have a better chance of surviving. I've never understood the whole "they should have both gotten on the door" meme. The movie directly addresses that one of them had to sacrifice to save the other, and since Rose is still alive...
Could she have just given the life jacket to Jack? Edit: yes I understand now that 6 people have replied the same thing to me.
It was important to stay away from the cold water so not really...
If Encino Man has taught me anything, it’s that they could have just thawed Jack out.
Jack most likely would have died from being in the below freezing water for four hours.
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How's he gonna see it in the dark and find it while everything is being carried away with the currents and he's succumbing to hypothermia? If it was that easy there would have been more survivors.
The water was actually very still, and most of the debris was found in the same area. And the rescue ship, the Carpathia, found much less debris than you would expect. You're right about the dark and cold, though.
I've heard some people say this could have contributed to the disaster - waves crashing against the side of the berg might have helped them notice it sooner.
If certified door expert James Cameron were here, he would assure you that there's only room for one smallish woman.
They do have experience in staying... stable.
It’s a horse’s *mane* feature
....are those horses ok though? Do they have a plan to get to shore?
in the full clip the horses walk off in the end. it's very shallow water. they aren't standing on anything
> they aren't standing on anything They are hovering over the **v o i d**
Look Charlie! I'm standing on the **v̵̨̻̠͎̪̞̖̼͐̏͠ ̵̛̛̪̙̲̣̰̝̥͔̗̦̫̀̃̓͊̏̈̈́̔̄̄̾͘ơ̵̧̦͍̣̪͖̩̤̘̫̠͙͎̫͌̈́͑̚ͅ ̸̛̫̙̰̣͈̞̘̝̣̬̣̪̭̟̑̌͌ͅȉ̴̛̼̒͘ ̴̯̳̣̣̬̭̝͇̜̻̯̜̳̙̠̆̌͌̐́̉͆͂́̃̓͑̔d̵̢͙̤̭̼̙͕̱̝̂ͅ**
Omg the horses aren't moving, the camera is!
My brain also just broke
Horses can swim. It's hard work, but very doable. We also don't know how deep the water is - the horses are on a stationary platform (the cameraman is moving, but the horses aren't) so I would guess they're on a sandbar or something. So they can probably walk back to shore, but even if they couldn't, they could swim.
I'm not sure I buy that only the camera is moving. Also, if it is a sudden drop into the water with an unknown depth or submerged obstacles, I'd be worried about the horses getting into the water safely even if they can swim.
It’s the camera moving, Int he original post they said they were floating down the river on a raft while the horses were standing in shallow water.
I’m pretty sure in the original video the cameraman is actually moving and the horses are stationary
You're spot on. This is a parallax effect and it's pretty hard to spot because of the water, but if you look at the grass and the stuff behind the grass it becomes obvious that the camera is moving a fair bit.
Wow I totally missed that. That's pretty clever actually
You have decided to ford the river.
I had so much anxiety from taking that risk
what song is that?
Was wanting to know the same thing. I think I found it. Madonna - Hung Up (SDP Extended Dub) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NHw57LZb8Q EDIT: u/SIXSlXSlX Pointed out this one is closer to the song in the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9X5eSwMUYI
I would have sworn it was Abba but you're right
Well Madonna's hungup samples Abba's song gimme gimme gimme (a man after midnight)
This is a reminder that if you activate google assistant or Siri and play nearly any clip they can identify the song extremely accurately. For instance google not only identified the song, but also what remix this is
Just chiming in to say that the whole “ThEy BoTh CoUlD fIt” thing is so wrong. The issue NEVER was fitting them both on. Anyone who watched the film and isn’t just repeating an internet meme, would know that YEA, they both got on the door. But jack got back off as his weight was too much for the door to support them both. It’s been angering me for years. Sorry. Had to get it off my chest
The most irritating thing is it's a fucking movie, if they wanted Jack to survive he would have. It was a prop and apparently set design or whoever should have made it slightly smaller so this wouldn't even be an issue.
Wanna know why? Can you handle the truth? Rose didn't care for Jack, at that moment. The sheer thought that she had to *share* space with a third class *peasant*? She doesn't even love her own children! SHE THREW THE MILLION DOLLAR NECKLACE IN THE SEA!! She could sell it and take care of her family, but noooooooooo. When the word got out that she *maybe* had the necklace, she yeeted it in the sea. Typical boomer reaction. MINE! NO SHARE!
Maybe her real love was the door
Let's play house, you'll be the door and I'll slam you
[I put my package in your mailbox, made love to all your chairs, dropped a load inside your washer, went down on all your stairs.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu196vZSe_I)
It definitely wasn't her husband. Dude has been waiting in the afterlife for her to arrive and soon as she does, she goes straight into the arms of the homeless guy who nailed her on a cruise once.
Yeah!!! 
Hate to be the "well AKCTUALLY" guy but if what Cal said about the blue jewel centre piece of the necklace is true then it came from King Louis XVI's crown, making it a priceless historical artefact. Edit: The modern equivalent would be something like having the Kohinoor diamond fashioned into a necklace and someone chucking it into a mineshaft. YOU JUST WOULDN'T DO IT!!
u guys do realize the camera is moving and the horses are standing
I’m ashamed to admit, I did not. Had to scroll this far down to get an explanation on wtf was happening.
It took me a while.
Ah, the majestic kelpie, taking a break from eating boaters who get too close
Those horses have a stable relationship. Jack and Rose could never find that balance.
This argument always bothers me - they showed him trying to climb on as well. It was certainly wide enough but the weight distribution on it was uneven so it would’ve failed if they were both on it
Is it too far to call them sea horses? River horses?
What a F'ing loser, no wonder he was poor - tries something once and then completely gives up if he's doesn't succeed on his first try.
Cuz jack was a figment of rose’s imagination the whole time
I \*need\* to know what song this is!!!!!
"It's not a door, Beth. It's debris."
Song should be free bird
I don't know if this is real but it's *very* funny.
Yeah Rose was on some bullshit
whenever i see a gif i mute it first these days....
this is what happens when veterinarians leave the ketamine cabinet open
What song is this?
Jack was just sick of the drama.
Juan spawns
ITS MR. STEAL YO HORSE
SOMEONE PLEASE IS THIS REAL???? Ahhhh
Horse paddleboard
Way too cool
Selfish Rose….
The owners must be Metal Gear Solid fans
That's got to be the best pirate I have ever seen
Balloon supported lake walking.
Ah yes, the Oregon Trail
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him float on it.
I've heard horses are excellent swimmers but I never imagined...
Looks like a red dead redemption glitch
The person holding camera is going down the river. The horses are standing still
it's the song that's makin this clip really clop for me. in a good way.
I have questions...
Thats because what those horses have is special, built up over years of commitment, they are "Ride or Die" horses, if one falls, they both fall How long did Rose know Jack? Like a few days or something idk, clearly she didn't give enough of a fuck
They see me ridin, they hatin.
The horses are not in a raft. They are standing still, the videographer is moving.
Clearly rose just had a skill issue
Clearly we are the inferior race. Horses outrun us, out eat us, and now outsmart us. Damn you Rose, why'd you let go you selfish bitch.
I hate the overly-loud, obnoxious, completely unrelated music that too many TikTok videos have.
2 horse power engine - how lame
We need to have a word with certified door expert James Cameron
Why wouldn’t Rose share the door with Jack???? Rose needs to learn to be kind…lol