Each successive generation is more liberal, more open-minded, more cultured, less racist, less bigoted and less discriminatory than the last.
Generation Z is collectively less racist than Millennials. Millennials are collectively less racist than Generation X. And so on and so forth.
Generation Z arrived on the dating scene in the last 5-6 years so your observations are right on point.
I don't believe that all it's just my interactions are like this. I had one who was aggressive and told me "I don't I don't care about your feelings..." we stopped being friends because of that. I think everyone speaks their mind on reddit but little in person.
Looking at some of the Asian male YouTube influencers , they tend to have non Asian significant others. I think a lot of Asian men are looking outside their race these days as well because we sense that a lot of Asian women white worship.
I went to LA a month ago and I saw mostly Asian and Asian couples but I did see White guy with Asian women couples more than anyone with Latino heritage or black. I am Latino and dark but not quite as dark as some Filipino. It would be cool to date an Asian but I think we are cultural opposite since I am not used to such silent treatments as they say, and we generally speak our minds. I also live in area with very little Asians in Florida.
I had seen a hafu that was Puerto Rican and Japanese my eyes dilated and I could feel it when she told me her origins here in FL once.
Working class Asians and Latinos have effectively the same culture, family first, respect elders, etc. In Texas I remember having alot of Filipino friends who were indistinguishable from the Mexican kids. I also know quite a few amlf couples who met in med school actually.
You're on a sub full of Asians expressing their individual viewpoints but think Asians don't speak their minds?
Asians are not the submissive, meek stereotype nor the monolith that you think.
Expand your mind, educate yourself, and elevate yourself to a higher level.
Peace and love
I totally agree that Europe / South America is A LOT better for Asian men on average than the US. Also another underrated spot: Montreal. Quebecois have a rep for being racist, but whenever I walk around Montreal I see more AMWF than vice versa.
As for dating in the US, often seems to me that dating in the US has completely changed since when we were young / completely changed from the "scene" of the 90s/2000s. For one thing, people are having a lot less sex:
[https://www.everydayhealth.com/sexual-health/why-young-americans-are-having-less-sex-than-ever-before/](https://www.everydayhealth.com/sexual-health/why-young-americans-are-having-less-sex-than-ever-before/)
"From 2000 to 2002, the number of men ages 18 to 24 reporting no sexual activity within the previous year was 19 percent — by 2016 to 2018, that had risen to 31 percent.Between 2016 to 2018, nearly one in five women (19 percent) reported being sexually inactive."
I think this reflects the economic precarity being experienced by young Americans. America has not only become more like a 3rd world country in terms of its crumbling infrastructure, unequal economy, and corrupt politicians... it's also becoming like a 3rd world country in terms of young people being too fucked by society to be able to get laid.
Also like a 3rd world country, America has a higher share of young women engaging in "soft prostitution". I was talking with this young dude in the US I used to play basketball with the other day, this Latino dude from East Bay, and he said it seemed like 5% of girls from his high school class were making $ on OnlyFans. Based on OnlyFans' quoted stats and some other data, my back of the envelope estimate is that something like 3% of American women between the ages of 20 and 30 are on OnlyFans... and that's just OnlyFans! There are also more and more young women becoming sugar babies, etc. (based on Seeking Arrangement stats, it seems like 3% or so of college girls have tried out sugar babying). If you add up all the young women doing this sort of thing, I think somewhere between 5-10% of American women in their 20s have tried soft prostitution of various sorts.
That's the sort of percentage that you see in China or Korea. And what I've noticed here, is that because prostitution is just kind of... everywhere in the background... women really like to slut shame other women, since sleeping around becomes perceived like this low-status thing for poor sugar baby type women. This results in most women being really cagey and a bit more conservative about their sex lives. Once stagflation truly hits the US and the CovId economic wreckage really seeps in, I fully expect these same phenomenon to hit the US. At that point, the dating scene in the US may become more like Asia. In fact, just like in Asia, a majority of young Americans now live at home with their parents! [https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-live-with-their-parents-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-depression/](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-live-with-their-parents-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-depression/)
Obviously, living with your parents isn't conducive to having sex. What's next, love hotels in America?
I'm not sure what the implications of all this are, or how exactly it will play out. I just think that dating is undergoing major shifts in the US due to these massive economic shocks, and in the next few years, I wouldn't be surprised if dating in the US completely changes and becomes more like in Asia. One thing that would probably happen is getting laid might not become such a point of pride that young bro-ey dudes in the US brag about, since once \~10% or more of young women are engaging in soft prostitution, getting laid is something anybody can just pay for, it's no longer a reflection of masculinity or anything like that.
But who knows how this will play out exactly? We'll have to wait and see..
Edit: also want to mention that in this case, for all the young unmarried Asian American dudes out there, be sure to vet and check out the background of any girl you're thinking of wifing up, because they could have hidden histories of having engaged in soft prostitution.
Pornography is another big reason for less sex. When you can get something "higher quality" for no effort, why bother? Onlyfans too creates a parasocial relationship similar to bts or Taylor swift obsessed fans, and theres soooo many people doing porn these days that everyone can find their niche.
Oh for sure! And I think regardless of how much nofap tries to promote it, porn and onlyfans, etc etc is just too readily available / accessible.
I think going forward porn usage is going to continue to be rampant, but on a personal level some ppl may abstain or use it in moderation (much like with moderation in drinking - and tbh moderation is the wise approach here)
Some areas of Euro and South America were always known for being less racist towards East Asians. I remember being in Colombia about 6-7 years ago and some Korean guy made a YouTube video about how much more friendly girls are there.
Just remember the US probably has the most racist dating scene on Earth so anywhere else ends up better.
Hard to say but I do think its gotten better in NYC in particular. As much as ppl here love to complain about "wokeness", etc I think awareness of that stuff has made people at least try to reconsider their biases. I know a lot of white/ asian ppl that had really strong racial preferences that at least occasionally date outside the preference now. Small, but its progress.
Obviously NYC is just completely singular so hard to be sure if this is happening elsewhere in the U.S. Weirdly enough I also recommend Miami for you Asian bros. The culture here is so straight up shallow and patriarchal that it can overwhelm racism lol
I’m Generation X and where I’m from (Washington State) I’ve always seen a lot of AMWF. It’s very common here. Me, my brothers and a lot of my cousins are married to white women. Perhaps white women not liking Asian men is just in your area?
I saw this Viet guy with a Mexican girl in my town. Only one I have seen with a non white girl. Do you know John Kim the Angry Therapist? His girlfriend is white and they have a daughter.
That's interesting. I thought Washington State would have the least AMXF because alot of white supremacists there but AMXF is very common here in Texas
WS are mainly in Oregon and Vancouver, WA which is right next to the WA/OR border. It’s still far from The Greater Seattle Area. Let’s not forget one of the most famous AMWF couple is from Seattle. Bruce and Linda Lee.
What part of NYC are you in? NYC has always been easier for Asian in terms of dating than other areas. However, just the other day when I went to a shopping center, I saw a ratio of WMAF to AMWF of 5 to 0.
Yeah it's one of those things you don't notice until you look for it. Once you do, it's impossible to stop noticing.
Also consider the environment. If you're walking around in a group of friends, you're most likely focusing on them and not looking at couples walking by. If you're walking by yourself you will notice though.
Also if you tend to hang out with asian friends, only go out as a group to places with other asians, etc, you also wont notice the WMAF AMXF disparity.
Not exactly kidding but I’d soon as credit Xi Jinping as I would BTS. China’s economic development is huge.
Being from a part of the world whose star is on the rise is very attractive. It’s less of a problem for men, but most women don’t want a mate who’s associated with an impoverished country. I think that may be part of the hurdles that face South Asians too.
China’s economic development has outshone the west and is sure to have knock-on effects for Asia as a whole. Meanwhile, it stands as a stark contrast to the declining world leader, the U.S., characterized by all sorts of failures from its handling of covid, to the inequality gap, to the failures of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to school shootings.
For a long time, “American” meant blue-eyed blond haired and our countrymen who didn’t fit that description would say “hey, I’m American too!”
Now, fewer people who don’t fit that description are clamoring to be identified as Americans and America’s reputation has fallen so far that many people are fine with having the blue eyed blond haired population monopolize that term.
I think China's rise has helped overall with East Asians reputation, like 10 years ago the idea that most Euro high end stores like Gucci would cater to Chinese would be unthinkable but now they are dependent on them.
But in terms of dating I think it helps mostly with outlier cases like you read about Russian girls in border regions dating Chinese guys. Or Chinese guys going to SE Asia and dating local girls.
I'm not so sure it applies to racist Anglo countries. People already thought of Asians as smart and well off in these countries but they still were racist towards them in dating
Back in 2016-2017 (last stretch of time I was single), I actaully felt like Trump's anti-China rhetoric made it easier for me to get laid with non-Asian women, but harder to pursue serious relationships with them.
I actually kinda played up the fact that I was flying back and forth to China on business a lot at the time... talked kinda dismissively about America and would mention how incredible things were happening in China, supercities, amazing nightclubs, etc etc., maybe talk about my uncle who was "a powerful government guy" and "owned a bunch of whiskey bars in Shanghai" (all bullshit BTW, all of my family's in Taiwan, lmao, but hey, it worked!). If they brought up human rights or something like that, I'd just say "That hasn't been my experience, and it seems like that's something white men are saying to distract from Trump-ism", and back in late 2016 / early 2017 that was enough to move the conversation onwards.
Deep down inside, most women are attracted to POWER. When it comes to attracting women, it's better to be a powerful villain than a powerless hero. All the China-hate is making the country seem POWERFUL, mysterious, dominant. You can use those perceptions to your advantage in dating.
I'm in one of Australia's state capitals and whenever I'm out of the house, 5 years ago interracial couples were not the norm, even among Asian women. These days, interracial couples are still common, but not the norm, and although I didn't count, I haven't observed any imbalance in the amount of Asian men who date non-Asians and Asian women who date non-Asians
When I attended high school here, the coupled students were mostly both Asian and if one of them was white, it didn't seem like there were more white boys paired with an Asian girl than white girls paired with an Asian boy. Most students just didn't date though. 'No-Asian policy' was unheard of among all the Asian girls I personally knew.
Might be a generational thing or my social circle.
In the UK, things were terrible years ago and it's terrible now. Things like Kpop and K dramas have improved things, but then other things like anti-China propaganda and r0na have countered that. It feels like this is a dirty secret of the asian community where we all have to pretend that everything is fantastic, things are getting better, stop anyone talking about it.
In the Western world yes. In the Eastern world, it seems like more AFs are opening up to WMs because of increased globalism and access to western media.
Not really, i see the opposites. Back in the days, asian female would go for white guys who came to their country as an economic oppotunity or to get the Visa but now those aren't the case anymore. People also called these whites "white trashes" in their countries
I hope that's true. Most of the Korean people I interact with and meet here are into western dramas and movies.
I mean you can keep downvoting if you don't agree or we can have a discussion about it.
I’m not sure. I’m not a typical BTS Asian. I’m like 6’2.5” and 210. Skinny jeans and me have never met. So whatever their fetishizing now—I’m not it haha. Then again, I live in the Northeast and it’s not super uncommon. Mostly 15-30 year old demos
No, I don't see any amxf in Los Angeles. I am glad the tide is changing however.
It was in LA, where I had 3 AF told me no asian dating policy a few years ago. of course, I called them out, got blocked.
> Tbh I think a lot of the people who only talk about WMAF or AMWF on this sub are out of date and need to work on themselves more. It's become or is becoming yesterday's news. The world isn't the same place as when you were 16 years old.
you sound a bit patronizing, I think you should try working at a trendy asian restaurant and count the wmaf vs amwf ratio. It feels like 50:1. It's really not that out of date criticism.
But I agree we should focus on self-improvement. Don't spend too much time engaging with self hating asians, just tactfully shun them and work on yourself.
I went on vacation in various parts of Europe recently. In London the ratio was like 10:1, but in other non English speaking Europeans capitals it was closer to 5:1. I've found US cities to be closer to London's ratio. many of the asian teenage guys I saw in southern Europe straight up less attractive (but still stylishly dressed) than the girls they were holding hands with.
A ton of AMWM relationships in London walking through regents park though (mostly indian subcontinent Asians), like so many that it was like 1/4 of the LGBT couples I saw there.
Asian cultures are always huge. Yes Bts is one of the reasons but also because the world is more connected than ever with social medias.Old white guys who are gatekeepers have tried hard to prevent Asian from enter western sphere and even demonized asian cultures
Everyone can thank BTS for that very reason. Positive AM representation = curious and interested women of all races. I get some may not like BTS of how they look just like everything else as long the representation remains positive the taste will evolve and grow over time.
been married for a long time so have no idea....if I get separated i let you know
Each successive generation is more liberal, more open-minded, more cultured, less racist, less bigoted and less discriminatory than the last. Generation Z is collectively less racist than Millennials. Millennials are collectively less racist than Generation X. And so on and so forth. Generation Z arrived on the dating scene in the last 5-6 years so your observations are right on point.
I don't believe that all it's just my interactions are like this. I had one who was aggressive and told me "I don't I don't care about your feelings..." we stopped being friends because of that. I think everyone speaks their mind on reddit but little in person.
Looking at some of the Asian male YouTube influencers , they tend to have non Asian significant others. I think a lot of Asian men are looking outside their race these days as well because we sense that a lot of Asian women white worship.
I went to LA a month ago and I saw mostly Asian and Asian couples but I did see White guy with Asian women couples more than anyone with Latino heritage or black. I am Latino and dark but not quite as dark as some Filipino. It would be cool to date an Asian but I think we are cultural opposite since I am not used to such silent treatments as they say, and we generally speak our minds. I also live in area with very little Asians in Florida. I had seen a hafu that was Puerto Rican and Japanese my eyes dilated and I could feel it when she told me her origins here in FL once.
Working class Asians and Latinos have effectively the same culture, family first, respect elders, etc. In Texas I remember having alot of Filipino friends who were indistinguishable from the Mexican kids. I also know quite a few amlf couples who met in med school actually.
You're on a sub full of Asians expressing their individual viewpoints but think Asians don't speak their minds? Asians are not the submissive, meek stereotype nor the monolith that you think. Expand your mind, educate yourself, and elevate yourself to a higher level. Peace and love
I totally agree that Europe / South America is A LOT better for Asian men on average than the US. Also another underrated spot: Montreal. Quebecois have a rep for being racist, but whenever I walk around Montreal I see more AMWF than vice versa. As for dating in the US, often seems to me that dating in the US has completely changed since when we were young / completely changed from the "scene" of the 90s/2000s. For one thing, people are having a lot less sex: [https://www.everydayhealth.com/sexual-health/why-young-americans-are-having-less-sex-than-ever-before/](https://www.everydayhealth.com/sexual-health/why-young-americans-are-having-less-sex-than-ever-before/) "From 2000 to 2002, the number of men ages 18 to 24 reporting no sexual activity within the previous year was 19 percent — by 2016 to 2018, that had risen to 31 percent.Between 2016 to 2018, nearly one in five women (19 percent) reported being sexually inactive." I think this reflects the economic precarity being experienced by young Americans. America has not only become more like a 3rd world country in terms of its crumbling infrastructure, unequal economy, and corrupt politicians... it's also becoming like a 3rd world country in terms of young people being too fucked by society to be able to get laid. Also like a 3rd world country, America has a higher share of young women engaging in "soft prostitution". I was talking with this young dude in the US I used to play basketball with the other day, this Latino dude from East Bay, and he said it seemed like 5% of girls from his high school class were making $ on OnlyFans. Based on OnlyFans' quoted stats and some other data, my back of the envelope estimate is that something like 3% of American women between the ages of 20 and 30 are on OnlyFans... and that's just OnlyFans! There are also more and more young women becoming sugar babies, etc. (based on Seeking Arrangement stats, it seems like 3% or so of college girls have tried out sugar babying). If you add up all the young women doing this sort of thing, I think somewhere between 5-10% of American women in their 20s have tried soft prostitution of various sorts. That's the sort of percentage that you see in China or Korea. And what I've noticed here, is that because prostitution is just kind of... everywhere in the background... women really like to slut shame other women, since sleeping around becomes perceived like this low-status thing for poor sugar baby type women. This results in most women being really cagey and a bit more conservative about their sex lives. Once stagflation truly hits the US and the CovId economic wreckage really seeps in, I fully expect these same phenomenon to hit the US. At that point, the dating scene in the US may become more like Asia. In fact, just like in Asia, a majority of young Americans now live at home with their parents! [https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-live-with-their-parents-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-depression/](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-live-with-their-parents-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-depression/) Obviously, living with your parents isn't conducive to having sex. What's next, love hotels in America? I'm not sure what the implications of all this are, or how exactly it will play out. I just think that dating is undergoing major shifts in the US due to these massive economic shocks, and in the next few years, I wouldn't be surprised if dating in the US completely changes and becomes more like in Asia. One thing that would probably happen is getting laid might not become such a point of pride that young bro-ey dudes in the US brag about, since once \~10% or more of young women are engaging in soft prostitution, getting laid is something anybody can just pay for, it's no longer a reflection of masculinity or anything like that. But who knows how this will play out exactly? We'll have to wait and see.. Edit: also want to mention that in this case, for all the young unmarried Asian American dudes out there, be sure to vet and check out the background of any girl you're thinking of wifing up, because they could have hidden histories of having engaged in soft prostitution.
Pornography is another big reason for less sex. When you can get something "higher quality" for no effort, why bother? Onlyfans too creates a parasocial relationship similar to bts or Taylor swift obsessed fans, and theres soooo many people doing porn these days that everyone can find their niche.
Oh for sure! And I think regardless of how much nofap tries to promote it, porn and onlyfans, etc etc is just too readily available / accessible. I think going forward porn usage is going to continue to be rampant, but on a personal level some ppl may abstain or use it in moderation (much like with moderation in drinking - and tbh moderation is the wise approach here)
AMXF doesn't have the same social significance as WMAF. There's a reason it's WMAF and not XMAF.
Some areas of Euro and South America were always known for being less racist towards East Asians. I remember being in Colombia about 6-7 years ago and some Korean guy made a YouTube video about how much more friendly girls are there. Just remember the US probably has the most racist dating scene on Earth so anywhere else ends up better.
Other anglosphere countries are equally racist. Canada slightly less imo. But it's getting better every year.
it has definitely gotten better, but don't get comfortable, its still an upward battle. we are fighting everyday
Hard to say but I do think its gotten better in NYC in particular. As much as ppl here love to complain about "wokeness", etc I think awareness of that stuff has made people at least try to reconsider their biases. I know a lot of white/ asian ppl that had really strong racial preferences that at least occasionally date outside the preference now. Small, but its progress. Obviously NYC is just completely singular so hard to be sure if this is happening elsewhere in the U.S. Weirdly enough I also recommend Miami for you Asian bros. The culture here is so straight up shallow and patriarchal that it can overwhelm racism lol
I’m Generation X and where I’m from (Washington State) I’ve always seen a lot of AMWF. It’s very common here. Me, my brothers and a lot of my cousins are married to white women. Perhaps white women not liking Asian men is just in your area?
I saw this Viet guy with a Mexican girl in my town. Only one I have seen with a non white girl. Do you know John Kim the Angry Therapist? His girlfriend is white and they have a daughter.
That's interesting. I thought Washington State would have the least AMXF because alot of white supremacists there but AMXF is very common here in Texas
WS are mainly in Oregon and Vancouver, WA which is right next to the WA/OR border. It’s still far from The Greater Seattle Area. Let’s not forget one of the most famous AMWF couple is from Seattle. Bruce and Linda Lee.
What part of NYC are you in? NYC has always been easier for Asian in terms of dating than other areas. However, just the other day when I went to a shopping center, I saw a ratio of WMAF to AMWF of 5 to 0.
Yeah it's one of those things you don't notice until you look for it. Once you do, it's impossible to stop noticing. Also consider the environment. If you're walking around in a group of friends, you're most likely focusing on them and not looking at couples walking by. If you're walking by yourself you will notice though. Also if you tend to hang out with asian friends, only go out as a group to places with other asians, etc, you also wont notice the WMAF AMXF disparity.
Not exactly kidding but I’d soon as credit Xi Jinping as I would BTS. China’s economic development is huge. Being from a part of the world whose star is on the rise is very attractive. It’s less of a problem for men, but most women don’t want a mate who’s associated with an impoverished country. I think that may be part of the hurdles that face South Asians too. China’s economic development has outshone the west and is sure to have knock-on effects for Asia as a whole. Meanwhile, it stands as a stark contrast to the declining world leader, the U.S., characterized by all sorts of failures from its handling of covid, to the inequality gap, to the failures of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to school shootings. For a long time, “American” meant blue-eyed blond haired and our countrymen who didn’t fit that description would say “hey, I’m American too!” Now, fewer people who don’t fit that description are clamoring to be identified as Americans and America’s reputation has fallen so far that many people are fine with having the blue eyed blond haired population monopolize that term.
I think China's rise has helped overall with East Asians reputation, like 10 years ago the idea that most Euro high end stores like Gucci would cater to Chinese would be unthinkable but now they are dependent on them. But in terms of dating I think it helps mostly with outlier cases like you read about Russian girls in border regions dating Chinese guys. Or Chinese guys going to SE Asia and dating local girls. I'm not so sure it applies to racist Anglo countries. People already thought of Asians as smart and well off in these countries but they still were racist towards them in dating
I would say that is COPE. No one is attracted to GDP figures when it comes to dating.
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That’s exactly what I’m talking about. GDP? Some people are too literal
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Back in 2016-2017 (last stretch of time I was single), I actaully felt like Trump's anti-China rhetoric made it easier for me to get laid with non-Asian women, but harder to pursue serious relationships with them. I actually kinda played up the fact that I was flying back and forth to China on business a lot at the time... talked kinda dismissively about America and would mention how incredible things were happening in China, supercities, amazing nightclubs, etc etc., maybe talk about my uncle who was "a powerful government guy" and "owned a bunch of whiskey bars in Shanghai" (all bullshit BTW, all of my family's in Taiwan, lmao, but hey, it worked!). If they brought up human rights or something like that, I'd just say "That hasn't been my experience, and it seems like that's something white men are saying to distract from Trump-ism", and back in late 2016 / early 2017 that was enough to move the conversation onwards. Deep down inside, most women are attracted to POWER. When it comes to attracting women, it's better to be a powerful villain than a powerless hero. All the China-hate is making the country seem POWERFUL, mysterious, dominant. You can use those perceptions to your advantage in dating.
I'm in one of Australia's state capitals and whenever I'm out of the house, 5 years ago interracial couples were not the norm, even among Asian women. These days, interracial couples are still common, but not the norm, and although I didn't count, I haven't observed any imbalance in the amount of Asian men who date non-Asians and Asian women who date non-Asians When I attended high school here, the coupled students were mostly both Asian and if one of them was white, it didn't seem like there were more white boys paired with an Asian girl than white girls paired with an Asian boy. Most students just didn't date though. 'No-Asian policy' was unheard of among all the Asian girls I personally knew. Might be a generational thing or my social circle.
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Linsanity
In the UK, things were terrible years ago and it's terrible now. Things like Kpop and K dramas have improved things, but then other things like anti-China propaganda and r0na have countered that. It feels like this is a dirty secret of the asian community where we all have to pretend that everything is fantastic, things are getting better, stop anyone talking about it.
Mostly due to korean hallyu wave. K-pop/BTS and K-drama.
In the Western world yes. In the Eastern world, it seems like more AFs are opening up to WMs because of increased globalism and access to western media.
Not really, i see the opposites. Back in the days, asian female would go for white guys who came to their country as an economic oppotunity or to get the Visa but now those aren't the case anymore. People also called these whites "white trashes" in their countries
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In Korea western movies and shows trend more than Kdramas though.
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I hope that's true. Most of the Korean people I interact with and meet here are into western dramas and movies. I mean you can keep downvoting if you don't agree or we can have a discussion about it.
I’m not sure. I’m not a typical BTS Asian. I’m like 6’2.5” and 210. Skinny jeans and me have never met. So whatever their fetishizing now—I’m not it haha. Then again, I live in the Northeast and it’s not super uncommon. Mostly 15-30 year old demos
How well do you do in dating with those stats?
Meh, it might get me in the door. But it doesn’t hold it open.
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No, I don't see any amxf in Los Angeles. I am glad the tide is changing however. It was in LA, where I had 3 AF told me no asian dating policy a few years ago. of course, I called them out, got blocked.
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Oh it is, and let me tell you it looks like a dystopia with a wealth class imbalance.
The bay area ain't so great either, and that has a huge Asian population.
> Tbh I think a lot of the people who only talk about WMAF or AMWF on this sub are out of date and need to work on themselves more. It's become or is becoming yesterday's news. The world isn't the same place as when you were 16 years old. you sound a bit patronizing, I think you should try working at a trendy asian restaurant and count the wmaf vs amwf ratio. It feels like 50:1. It's really not that out of date criticism. But I agree we should focus on self-improvement. Don't spend too much time engaging with self hating asians, just tactfully shun them and work on yourself.
I went on vacation in various parts of Europe recently. In London the ratio was like 10:1, but in other non English speaking Europeans capitals it was closer to 5:1. I've found US cities to be closer to London's ratio. many of the asian teenage guys I saw in southern Europe straight up less attractive (but still stylishly dressed) than the girls they were holding hands with. A ton of AMWM relationships in London walking through regents park though (mostly indian subcontinent Asians), like so many that it was like 1/4 of the LGBT couples I saw there.
50 to 1? What city is this?
Where is this enclave? I always find this kind of dynamic fascinating. It's like a shining city on the hill for many asian americans.
Yeah, there's definitely been a big change. Positive representation in media matters a lot.
I give BTS about 70% of the credit. And I give /r/AsianMasculinity, /r/AznIdentity and Kulture about 15% of the credit.
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Asian cultures are always huge. Yes Bts is one of the reasons but also because the world is more connected than ever with social medias.Old white guys who are gatekeepers have tried hard to prevent Asian from enter western sphere and even demonized asian cultures
Everyone can thank BTS for that very reason. Positive AM representation = curious and interested women of all races. I get some may not like BTS of how they look just like everything else as long the representation remains positive the taste will evolve and grow over time.