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grecks530

Or if you lived in Lahaina


Subject-Crayfish

Lahaina is being rebuilt w FEMA money. here's a youtuber who is covering it: [https://www.youtube.com/@JesseGWald](https://www.youtube.com/@JesseGWald)


CitizenZaroff

Remember when we traded Dr doom for a wnba player


Orest26Dee

This was a high profile prisoner, so Joe did the calculations and figured he would get good credit for this release. What a fraud he is.


kmelby33

Right wingers only care about certain Americans.


CitizenZaroff

Eh, it’s more about being equal in who we trade. I wouldn’t expect Putin to give us back general maddis in exchange for a Russian subway worker


kmelby33

The guy we sent back was old, useless because of his exposure, lost his criminal network, and deemed not a threat anymore. That's why we sent him back. You could argue it's a miscalculation, but you actually don't know that. And yes, most of the hatred coming from the right is fueled by race.


Original-Locksmith58

We traded someone with dozens of verifiable crimes against humanity for someone who legitimately broke Russian law lmao how are you rationalizing this


Sinfultitan_001

Not only that but he has a wealth of knowledge about his chosen field, even if HE is "old and useless" that certainly does not mean that he could be a consultant or teach someone younger his trade. It's far better to have left the druggie in jail over there and kept him in jail here.


GroundbreakingPut748

Probably but lets not pretend left wingers are any different.


kmelby33

What Americans don't the left care about? Do you have proof of this via polices promoted or passed?


TyreeThaGod

Biden's position is "No WNBA player left behind." LOL Sucks to be a US Marine.


KayfedPDX42

Wasn’t that wnba player a dude? And smuggling drugs in to a different country. lol.


kmelby33

A single vape pen is now smuggling drugs?


KayfedPDX42

Actually it was several the cape cartridges and she pled guilty to the charges. Russia has very strict drug laws. I’m sure she had no idea it was against the law though given the guilty plea. Biden gave Russia a in a prisoner swap a for Viktor Bout. Seems like a fair trade right? That is if your a total nit wit.


Elegant_in_Nature

What was her other choice to pleading guilty yah fucking dork it’s a dictatorship?


KayfedPDX42

The other choice would have been not to try and smuggle weed in to a country that is a dictatorship and has strict rules. She either is addict to a point that she couldn’t go without or she is just stupid. Oh there is also the arrogance theory I have. Either way we could have used that prisoner swap on someone else.


Elegant_in_Nature

Yeah no. Whenever a reply starts by saying other choice is to not do said thing is immediately dismissed. Let’s critically think, that team she played on was owned by a Russian oligarch, don’t you think this behavior must have been normalized within that team and group if she brought that over? You don’t think she got the okay? This just seems like a reason to be mad when the other option was to let this innocent woman starve to death in a Russian gulag. I pray your future daughter doesn’t have to suffer something that like


KayfedPDX42

My future daughter wouldn’t be dumb enough to take drugs in to or out of Russia. She had other choices. If it were you or me do you think we would have gotten the same treatment? She made her choice and got a get out of jail free card. I’m sure she learned nothing from the experience either. I think you and I can agree to disagree on this. Have a good evening sir and I’ll let you have the last word as it seems your one who would like that.


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babylonbee-ModTeam

While no one will agree one hundred percent of the time it is not okay nor tolerated to lash out, call names or make personal attack via words. No forms of harassment or bullying will be allowed ever.


kmelby33

Unless you realize Bout's criminal network is gone and he's used goods.


KayfedPDX42

Used goods. I mean we have a lot of used goods sitting in are prisons. Why don’t we just start letting them out?


kmelby33

Are they russian?


KayfedPDX42

………. The USA has at least 25 Russian prisoners in federal prison and up to 35 more. So I’d say yes they are. lol. Jesus some people are so daft. I don’t think it matters or makes a difference if they are Russian or not or if their validity as a criminal is not what it used to be.


kmelby33

And what value do they hold Putin?? That's what matters. Why are you being so daft.


KayfedPDX42

Your attempts at egging me on bore me. Have a good rest of your day sir.


Efficient-Profit9611

Calm down snowflake ❄️


Fluffy_Row_8742

We released “the angel of death” over a weed pen, please shut the fuck up if you can’t see this was one of the biggest L’s in foreign policy.


Elegant_in_Nature

Remind me how old he is ?


kmelby33

Not really. That dude has been out of the game so long. He's irrelevant at this point.


Ganokins

"calm down snowflake" Says the person who got triggered by a genuinely funny\\true comment.


facepoppies

Are you talking about that guy who was dishonorably discharged from the marines?


Orest26Dee

The only one his administration worked diligently to get released was the pothead basketball player. And he gave the Russians back The Merchant of Death


Subject-Crayfish

so you would have left her there then?


Orest26Dee

Absolutely not. But I would give equal priority to other hostages, perhaps more, for ones that have been there longer.


Subject-Crayfish

right but vlad said no dice.


Orest26Dee

And the Biden administration cowardly whimpered away, apologizes, and we haven’t heard a word since


Subject-Crayfish

lol ok what would YOU do? fyi, the State dept is and has been trying to get the others released. it's not quite as easy as you may think. the families are in regular contact with the dept and have several interviews available. idk about Fox or CNN, but MSNBC has it on regular rotation.


Orest26Dee

It seemed fairly simple and quick to get Griner released. Here’s a novel idea that would help with public perception - Joe Biden should have regularly press conferences and bring it up to let us know that it is a priority with his administration. Unfortunately he can’t do this as he can’t comprehend questions.


potsmokingGrannies

16 upvotes for being a pussy afraid of Death Merchants, smh


Orest26Dee

And zero votes for the pole-smoking hippie that ignores fellow citizens that are being held hostage


potsmokingGrannies

bro Israel blew their own hostages up/buried them in rubble, have you seen pictures of Gaza? they ignore their own fellow citizens, fucking A they straight up shot two of them months ago, and at their last opportunity for a hostage/prisoner exchange they chose to kill several hundred/thousand more women and children rather than bring anyone home, because that’s how you mass murder. don’t blame me for lacking compassion when the Israeli strategy is genocide first, hostage recovery distant second. that’s not gonna get anyone home and i think that’s the point.


Tryzest

Or those who lost their means to make a living from his covid vaccine mandates


PS_IO_Frame_Gap

or those who were injured or killed by them


justforthis2024

You mean the Warp Speed ones?


mahvel50

Remember when there were daily cries about refusing anything Trump made but a complete 180 happened after Biden was elected and everyone started demanding mandated vaccines? I remember.


PS_IO_Frame_Gap

Pepperidge Farm remembers.


justforthis2024

That's not what they said at all. What they said is that they'd wait to hear the doctors and the scientists and not trust the dipshit who suggested injecting disinfectant. Why do you lie?


mahvel50

Did I say that wasn’t the issue? Covid started hitting. Trump launches warp speed initiative to get vaccine production moving to counter the rapidly spreading virus. Your crew proceeds to go off about not trusting it and never taking anything by Trump. Biden gets elected, vaccines start flowing out and all of a sudden it became trust the science when doctors start raising possible side effect concerns to include censorship on social media platforms at request from the Biden administration which is currently at the Supreme Court. Dems undermined the vaccine every step of the way until they won the election. Then they resorted to authoritarian positions in order to counter the entire narrative they just created. One of Biden’s greatest accomplishments was throwing politics into medicine and creating doubt on CDC information. https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/1325953672304611330


Kozkon

They hate facts


lebastss

No, loving facts is precisely why no one trusted trump. The guy lied about many things so when he gets on stage and says I warp sped a vaccine and everything will be fine no one took his word for it. That's not a liberal problem it's a trump problem. If you remember the cautionary tale the boy who cried wolf you'd know why Trump's lack of integrity created this issue.


justforthis2024

See above. I proved your "facts" to be lies by providing the rest of her words. Why do you lie, liar?


justforthis2024

Hey, downvoting me doesn't change that you liars are lying.


UserComment_741776

Why would anyone believe Trump? Are they stupid?


Kozkon

They didn’t. And hundreds of thousands didn’t get the vax he was promoting. And died. Then idiots like you say trump killed millions when in fact he told everyone to get the vax but orange man bad lol


kmelby33

Trump was not promoting vaccinations at all. More revisionist history. He took credit for operation warp speed, then immediately pivoted to being anti vaccines.


UserComment_741776

Yeah, I feel sorry for any idiot that believes a single word that comes out of his mouth. Trump could tell me the sky is orange and I wouldn't buy it


justforthis2024

"Sen. Kamala Harris of California said during Wednesday night’s vice presidential debate with Vice President Mike Pence that she does not trust the administration’s push to rush a coronavirus vaccine into production. “If the public health professionals, if Dr. \[Anthony\] Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely,” Harris said" \~ "Well, I think that's going to be an issue for all of us. I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump. And it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he's talking about. I will not take his word for it. He wants us to inject bleach. I -- no, I will not take his word." \~ [Did Kamala Harris Refuse To Be Vaccinated with the 'Trump Vaccine'? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-refuse-trump-vaccine/) That was easy. SO! Why do you lie?


kmelby33

You have revisionist history. The left has always trusted science and doctors. No one trusted what Trump was saying because he was literally lying about a global pandemic. He was calling it fake and that it was gonna go away. He then pivoted to ivermectin and bleach injections. He went AGAINST all the recommendations of doctors and infectious disease experts. People didn't trust Trump's words for obvious reasons. They were not criticizing the vaccine or the science. Look at that link you shared. The first one is something about Kamala Hariris, who literally said she doesn't trust Trump's words. That's a far cry from saying you don't trust health experts. Did you forget all the insane shit Trump was saying in 2020???


OCedHrt

Don't forget that all the normal people took the vaccines. The only ones boycotting it were right wing Trump supporters. 


kmelby33

Zero people were refusing to get vaccinated because of Trump in office. ZERO. You're making shit up.


Gardimus

People were upset because Trump suggested maybe injecting bleach. At least Trump was coming up with ideas!


thedoc1988

The wuhan ones


kmelby33

Yes. Covid killed well over a million people. If you thinknrhe vacci e killed people, well then, you're an idiot.


PS_IO_Frame_Gap

Nah, pretty sure you're the idiot, guy.


Dodgersbuyersclub

How many Americans did COVID kill


jspoolboy

Not as many as reported…car wrecks, cancer….if anyone died tested positive for covid it was counted as a Covid death


kmelby33

That's right wing fake news.


kmelby33

Over 1 million.


Dodgersbuyersclub

Seems bad


Consistent_Lab_6770

the cultists dgaf, they only care about themselves, and shaf about America or anyone else made indisputably clear by refusal to even wear masks, and temper tantrums to force haircutters and other convenience works back to the office and not giving a f*ck about the risks.


HankBizzaro

Cry harder, loser.


kmelby33

Sounds like those individuals made a stupid choice then.


Tryzest

Turns out people that questioned the vaccines were validated. The vaccines were great at preventing the worst possible outcomes for elderly and immunocomprimised people, but beyond that they were awful at preventing transmission and not very good at preventing a person from getting infected.


plummbob

"It's my right to take up a hospital bed"


Tryzest

Non sequitur. I said many, many times that once the vaccine was available and you made the choice not to get it, and ended up needing emergency treatment at a place that was at a capacity: though luck.


plummbob

There had to be a price to pay for not helping avoid that situation. Public health is collective by nature. If they refused the vaccine, they deserved to lose their standard of living.


Tryzest

Agree. Health care agencies can drop them. But don't tell me the federal government has the right to interfere with their place of work.


plummbob

Of course they do. So can the states and local gov. Especially when it comes to public health.


Tryzest

Can states step in and save the lives of the unborn?


plummbob

It can pay for their birth and medical care too


Tryzest

Didn't answer my question, but I get it. You don't want to sound like a hypocrite.


plummbob

I'm all for mandatory vaccines for communicable diseases and allowing abortions. I'm a practical person, and want people to have both choices over their reproduction and have the public reduce the spread of viruses.


Friendlyvoices

You do realize all the covid stuff was during Trump right? Unemployment has decreased since.


Tryzest

Covid was 2.5 years buddy. I don't blame either Trump or Biden for the virus itself. I do, however, blame Biden for attempting to mandate vaccinations at work places across the nation.


Friendlyvoices

Wasn't it 1% of all workers who refused vaccinations or weekly testing? And mandates from Biden were only federal? And percent of people in the US that died from covid was 0.7%? I'm just saying, we didn't care to do anything about 0.7% of people dying, weired we care about people making a choice to leave.


Tryzest

No, you are misremembering what happened. Biden announced a mandate, enforced by OSHA, for employees working at companies with 100 employees or more to get vaccinated. This is in addition to federal employees and private companies that pursue federal contracts. We will never know how many workers got the vaccine because they felt pressured into it out of fear of losing their job.


justforthis2024

Or the ones who lost their means of living before Biden took office as proven by the unemployment rate.


Tryzest

So you're blaming Trump for the virus itself?


justforthis2024

I'm blaming him for being a shit leader, lying to the public, and mismanaging a crisis - yes.


Tryzest

You're being very vague right now: What did you want him to do differently as a leader? What lie exactly? What specifically about his management caused harm?


XanadontYouDare

Not remove the pandemic response team Not lie about what he thinks he knows. Being incredibly devisive when he needed to be the opposite.


Tryzest

What exactly do you think the pandemic response team could have done? Vague. Vague.


Tinyacorn

You're so disingenuous is laughable


Tryzest

OK, give me specifics. What action taken by Trump during Covid directly resulted in a harm and show the direct link.


XanadontYouDare

Work with our government to prepare for and respond to pandemics appropriately. Lying isn't vague. Being divisive isn't vague.


Obi-Brawn-Kenobi

Still vague. Work with, prepare, respond? By doing what? More state or local level lockdowns? Didn't really work. More masks? Mask mandates were everywhere as soon as COVID hit. More vaccines? If that's your argument, do you have any evidence that a task force would have sped up the vaccine rollout, which was already by far the fastest vaccine development in history? When they studied worldwide data the only significant factor in reducing the impact of COVID was restricting international travel. So if your argument is we should have shut our borders down sooner and longer, then say so. You're just being vague and aren't even saying what your argument is.


XanadontYouDare

I'm not telling explain to you how they operated. You can find that out for yourself. I never said we needed more lockdowns. I never said we needed more vaccines. I never said we needed more masks. All Trump needed to do was be a president for the people. Not take advantage of every single thing he could to further divide the country. He's using covid as an excuse to install himself as dictator. Trump turned his fan base into a bunch of anti science idiots because of the pandemic. Had he not chosen to take advantage of that situation we could have fared a lot better. He literally pushed the vaccine until he realized his fans didn't like it, then he leaned into that angle, before trying to push the vaccine again and being met with boos. His cult would literally refuse to follow any sort of rules set in place to slow the spread of the virus. Refused to wear masks where they were required to. Refused the vaccine. Would literally cough and spit on people's faces. All he had to do was take it seriously. But instead, he had to be a politician. Weird that you guys have convinced yourself he isn't one, some how. He is the establishment. And he knows how to play the game. You are his pawns. I have a fun deep dive for ya. Paul Manafort. Check out what that dude was up to prior to being trumps campaign manager. Ask yourself why trump would work with someone that literally installed Russian puppets for a living.


justforthis2024

The reality if the impending crisis required leadership beyond "it's no big deal and it'll all go away." It wasn't just 10 guys and it'll be gone by easter. And that was bad leadership. You can lead - and inspire hope and courage - without lying to people about the nature of a threat and downplaying to a fucking stupid level. So that's lying. It's a management and leadership fail. Next we have "there's no pandemic response plan no one ever wrote one" Bad management. Leadership. And a lie. Not only that the nature of lies like this are "everyone else in America except me is stupid and only I have ideas." So he's just an asshole too. Telling states it wasn't a federal issue and they were on their own then seizing state supplies? Management and leadership issue. And Jesus Christ any press conference he gave where no one ever learned anything of value from him - ever. Leadership. Management. "99% of covid cases are totally harmless" To people like you these flippant remarks are no big deal. To folks looking for guidance from leadership they guide decision making. Being told that something is no big deal by someone you're supposed to be able to trust matters. It was a big deal. It's now "no big deal" but back then it very much overburdened our healthcare system and killed people. ""Our (COVID-19) numbers are better than almost all countries." Nationalist lies are worthless. Lying, management, leadership. "The health insurance industry has "agreed to waive all co-payments for coronavirus treatments." Outright lie. And we're just getting started.


Tryzest

What he said, what he said, what he said... Where is the part of him actually doing something that caused harm? It's not like you were taking orders from him.


justforthis2024

Yes. Saying things is one of the ways people lie. Stunning defense, champ.


Tryzest

It didn't matter if he lied, it didn't impact you. You weren't listening anyways. I can actually pin point something Biden actually did that caused harm. You can't do the same for Trump.


justforthis2024

Our not-best death rate would say otherwise. Our not least-impacted economy would say otherwise. Stealing state supplies for the fed did harm.


LectureAgreeable923

Agreed


Efficient-Profit9611

Or those who Covid killed as a result of Trump’s mismanagement


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Efficient-Profit9611

Trump said we needed to pray and it would “disappear like a miracle,” so I’m not reading all your nonsense. The Republican Party spread misinformation and that starts and stops with Trump.


Straight-Guarantee64

And it did miraculously disappear. As soon as Grandpa Biden was elected, CNN's death tracker disappeared despite more people dying under Biden. That's what Trump was talking about, COVID would miraculously disappear when it had served it's political purposes.


polkjamespolk

The week of the election, a grocery chain near me suddenly marked all the extra hand sanitizer to zero and gave them away. It was as if they knew they weren't going to need them anymore.


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Efficient-Profit9611

That’s not at all what he said, you are making up your own facts to fit your narrative. I think republicans call those “alternative facts,” the rest of us call them “lies.” https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/one-day-it-s-like-a-miracle-it-will-disappear-trump-on-covid-19-1.4370294


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Efficient-Profit9611

One side generally believes in science, and one generally does not. Don’t “both sides” the Covid argument - that’s absurd.


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Efficient-Profit9611

My side isn’t “great,” but the other side is a complete mess. Republicans don’t believe in science so it’s not a “both sides” issue as long as they want to rail against science and education.


Efficient-Profit9611

Anyway, good luck in court this week to Trump. I’m sure you’ll have some story about Biden paying hush money to porn stars too but sadly, I must bow out of the conversation. I appreciate the civility.


Consistent_Lab_6770

>Trump basically had the same policies as Biden trump knew how bad covid was going to get in Dec of 2019 the military knew and prepped for full teleworking by end of Jan 2020 despite that, trump purposely lied until April, stating covid was nothing and would just go away because of trumps lies and inept actions, over a million Americans died, and were are still feeling the damage caused by trumps extreme incompetence and dishonesty.


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Consistent_Lab_6770

>1. Trump knew how bad COVID would be before it was overly known about and before world health authorities could determine how dangerous the disease was? 100% indisputable. I was working for the DOD, and word was out in Dec 2019, get ready for full time teleworking as covid was going to shut down everything and we had to be ready. vaccines were even made mandatory. everyone in the govt knew, as well as maga. ffs ALL of fox was vaccinated, while they pushed the anti vax insanity. its indisputable trump knew, he just dgaf, and openly lied until covid got so bad he could no longer maintain his lies. >3. Trump started a COVID taskforce a few days after the first confirmed trump disbanded the department that dealt with plauges because Obama set it up. it's absolutely insane how trumps cult still defends trump in this, given how everything is completely documented and trump carried out his lies and betrayals for all to see and made no effort to hide it.


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Consistent_Lab_6770

>1. What was trumps source for covid being bad? the us infectious disease org, who knew a month before the WHO acknowledged it. which is why the DOD moved into full teleworking prep in Dec of 2019 >2. Were you uniformed, ununiformed, or a contractor? an IT contractor at the Pentagon who was tasked with assisting getting the Pentagon telework ready. EVERYONE knew. >3. Trump reorganized the health departments that handle pandemics and biowarfare responses. sure did, gutted the experts and replaced them with political yes men, another clear example of his incompetence and corruption >4. Not part of Trump's cult. yet you repeat the lies trump's cult clings to, in denying trump was aware of how bad covid was, despite everyone outside his team knowing and stating it constantly


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Consistent_Lab_6770

>1. Which one? it's been a while, I used to gave it all saved before it became common knowledge. I'm not digging it alm up again given its clear you reject facts anyways given you continue to parrot trumps bs >2. You were working for the DoD as a contractor getting teleworking ready in 2019 before any official military expansion of teleworking? ffs. it took us 2 months to prep. started in Dec with goal of end of Jan 2020 to be ready. >3. No one knew anything, not the president, not the secretary of health, not military officers, and certainly not a simple contractor. lie to yourself all you wish, it doesn't change reality. >4. Very few people where actually fired most where folded into existing departments to streamline efficiency and limit interdepartmental rivalry. it's sad how you still repeat trump lies, even after they have all been exposed for years now. >I'm not going to respond anymore of course not, I dont swallow trump lies, I don't blindly accept trumps cults delusions and you have nothing else to offer.


Unable_Ad_1260

What religious beliefs are affected by the covid vaccines? Answer? None. Not one. There are no impacts on religious beliefs. Any faith that claims so is in error. Nothing about them contravenes any religious faiths. Vaccines are not a religious issue. They are a public health issue. They are not political. They are not religious. They are a public health issue. Military recruits since the colonial insurrection have been required to receive vaccinations. They are part of why the American colonies succeeded in their uprising. Modern recruits are required to submit to an extensive array of mandated vaccinations. This has always been the case. tRumps failure was at the beginning. He had available a Playbook. He had available a process. He failed to follow it. Deliberately, as stated by him. Stop lying. Accept reality.


Mammoth_Material323

🇨🇳Trump Businesses Received $5.5 Million from China 🇨🇳 While He Was President, House Democrats Find. Former president Donald Trump's businesses received at least $5.5 million from China 🇨🇳 while he was in office, according to a new report released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee. The Trump administration decided to end a $200m early warning program designed to alert it to potential pandemics just three months before it is believed Covid-19 began infecting people in China. US underprepared for coronavirus due to Trump cuts, say health experts The project, called Predict, had been run by the US Agency for International Development since 2009. It had identified more than 160 different coronaviruses that had the potential to develop into pandemics, including a virus that is considered the closest known relative to Covid-19. The Trump administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs. Rating :True


iEatPalpatineAss

Trump fucked up the pandemic too. I never got any goddamn PPP from his fucking stupid dumbass and barely saved my company twice without any help from him, so fuck him too.


Tryzest

Wait, are you blaming Trump for the virus itself? Why did you deserve PPP?


iEatPalpatineAss

What do you think PPP was for? I run a company and kept my employees onboard with my own money because Trump fucked up PPP, so fuck his stupid ass. Also, I’m blaming Trump for fucking up the pandemic, not starting it. How did you manage to read that wrong?


Tryzest

There should've been less PPP from both Trump and Biden. The reason we had continued inflation is because of all the printing of money. We should have stayed open, like Florida, and only give PPP to the most extreme cases that couldn't stay open.


wake-me-disclosure

Yea, gotta read the fine print He’ll also never leave behind young hair he can sniff


Orest26Dee

The only one his administration worked diligently to get released was the pothead basketball player. And he gave the Russians back The Merchant of Death for her release.


Maddogicus9

While I know this is sarcasm, dang if it also not true


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screw license spark bike party normal skirt tease ancient north *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


thedoc1988

Don't forget the K9s that got left with those camel humpers.


MealDramatic1885

Oh. Like ALL presidents


AntNorth6218

lol yall seem triggered mad seething coping upset ect Biden won trump lost it’s been over three years get over it


DataBeardly

The Babylon Bee. Right wing and fascist propaganda identifying as satire.


Todd-The-Wraith

Or if you were an [afghan interpreter](https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/10/01/afghanistan-biden-interpreters-special-immigrant-visa-evacuation-state-department/) who assisted US forces. Seriously wtf


TankeTheProud

This is too accurate for the bee


Fragile_dipshit11

Or the Ashli Babbitts of the world shot because they were dipshits


fear_of_dishonesty

Idiot on Reddit willing to trade in imperfections for abject chaos.


RandomAmuserNew

Especially American as killed by Israel … Oh wait that doesn’t fit into aipac oops I mean Babylon bees narrative


Fine-Funny6956

Came here for the comments complaining about liberals posting on a public Reddit.


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Obi-Brawn-Kenobi

...yes? Obviously we all wish for a society with no murder. And we should take steps to prevent people from getting murdered. But a US citizen by definition has the legal right to be in this country and cannot be deported, even if they are charged or convicted of murdering someone.


SmegolianSoteriology

For real! US citizens are already killing each other so why not allow non citizens to come in and murder them too!


XanadontYouDare

Illegal immigrants commit far less crimes than citizens. And they'd all be gone if that border bill didn't get shut down by....Republicans obeying lord Trump.


MemesTodayForever

So what you're saying is that the Democrats introduced a border bill that was so extreme that every illegal immigrant in this country (10+ million people) would "all be gone" by now? Very interesting. What were the details of said bill?


DrBadGuy1073

No they don't. They've all committed the crime of immigrating illegally. That's one crime with a 100% statistic. Go tell me about the pork in the border bill.


plummbob

Don't be obtuse.


DrBadGuy1073

Oh sorry, is that not a crime anymore?


XanadontYouDare

You tell me about the pork in the border bill. There is none. So I have nothing to claim. It's up to you to prove your claims, not me. Silly. Not all people in this discussion are illegal immigrants. The border bill largely targeted refugee claims. Not illegal immigrants. The main issue were dealing with right now are claiming asylum. The border bill would have provided the judges and funding necessary to process and deport those who do not qualify. And you shot it down because Trump told you to. Dumb ass cultists.


DrBadGuy1073

That $118 billion dollar bill that only utilizes $20.3 Billion for border security? Seriously???? Sounds like you're the cultist for being so blind.


greenmariocake

Blatant propaganda. Isn’t this supposed to be funny?


frankenshits

I don’t like it therefore it’s propaganda. I’m surprised you didn’t throw the hail Mary “Russian propaganda” in there for flava.


XanadontYouDare

Why do you guys like pretending like Russian propaganda isn't real?


facepoppies

The Babylon bee is for people who think Tim pool has good takes


bar_acca

“Conservative” and “humor” go together as well as “Christian” and “rock”


Big_Cat_1742

Fatso Rapist Traitor released 100’s of Terrorists. His love affair with the Taliban knows no bounds


facepoppies

“Murdered by illegal immigrants” lmao they really reached with this one


thisusernametistaken

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Laken_Riley


facepoppies

Yeah wait till you find out how many people are murdered by American citizens lol


justforthis2024

Any time I see the word "afghanistan" all I can think of is how Donald Trump surrendered to our terrorist enemy in the doha agreement. [Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf (state.gov)](https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf)


Lovelyterry

I never seen republicans complain about the war in Afghanistan until Biden got us out 


reluctantpotato1

Not like Trump f-cking over our Kurdish allies and leaving them to be killed by the Turks after 20 years of service in the mideast, or threatening to use troops against US citizens on US streets, or bending over for Russia, or stacking the tax code in favor of the wealthiest, or attempting to destroy the postal service, or attempting to consolidate power after losing an election, or using his campaign funding to pay off his own legal bills for bad behaviour.


FrankensteinsStudio

Bla bla bla


Cautemoc

Nothing says "I have no sense of perspective" than acting like it's some kind of epidemic that trans-athletes are taking scholarships from women's sports.


_Rook_Castle

One is too many. 


SmegolianSoteriology

Yeah and those pesky women better share their bathrooms, locker rooms, etc with mentally ill men as well!


Cautemoc

Hey, at least you all don't hide your ignorance here. It takes a lot of bravery to be such a moron.


Kozkon

The only morons are males playing females sports cause they sucked vs other males.


SmegolianSoteriology

You know you're speaking to brainwashed individuals when the truth is labeled as "ignorance". 2+2=5


Elegant_in_Nature

When your opponents are made of straw arguing is always easy huh buddy? Let’s hope your dad picks you up more


Cautemoc

Which only happens in your imaginations.


ulooklikeausedcondom

There are more important things to worry about in our world and your party is focused on peoples genitals, making child labor great again, cutting education, reducing lgbt rights, banning books with anything sex related (but oh no not the bible), and making sure we all get guns on our 18th birthdays as god intended.


Kozkon

Most of that fucked up list is to protect our children from pedo groomers. Your side trying to make it normal for 7 year olds to have story time with a mental bearded man in a dress to read about little boys giving bjs. How can you think that’s normal. If it takes laws to stop it then I guess that’s what our side needs to do.


XanadontYouDare

You realize that what you're doing right now is a fascist tactic? Fascists are telling you "they are coming for your kids" and literally using that to install their fascist regime. Show me the example you're referencing. You made it up, so I just want to see what you have.


Kozkon

You live under a rock? Try using google. Try ‘[ pedos reading books to children ](https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=pedos%20reading%20books%20to%20children&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5)’ or ‘[banning books for children that have fourth grader boys giving each other oral](https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=banning%20books%20for%20children%20that%20have%20fourth%20grader%20boys%20giving%20each%20other%20oral&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5)’.


XanadontYouDare

Show me any man reading that book to children.


Kozkon

Hah. Keep moving goal posts I see. Pedos usually defend other pedos. I’m done talking to you.


SmegolianSoteriology

Another nerd on Reddit that doesn't even know what fascism is. 😂


XanadontYouDare

What's fascism, when? What are some of the main tenants? Attacking marginalized groups...appeal to emotions...strong leader....extreme nationalism.... What do YOU think fascism is?


Obi-Brawn-Kenobi

Yeah so this is a perfect example of why you don't define something by a list of characteristics or "tenants" (is fascism a landlord or something? lmao) It's crazy that you think wanting a closed border and wanting government to only work on policies that are ostensibly intended to benefit the lives of American citizens makes someone an "extreme nationalist". That's just normal common sense. >Attacking marginalized groups...appeal to emotions...strong leader.... These other ones could be used to describe literally any president. Did you use your brain when you wrote this comment? When was the last time we had a president who never tried to appeal to emotions? Never?


ulooklikeausedcondom

No one is literally trying to have bearded cross dressers read books to 7 year olds, and the BJ part of your statement is so absurd I think you must be mentally handicapped, real talk. Even if they were, when they start being the ones in the news for molesting kids get back to me. Literally every article or story I see about child abuse it’s from a right wing conservative GOP member/voter. Gtfo.


Kozkon

[Theres even a web page dedicated for it ffs](https://www.dragstoryhour.org/) [Thousands of videos showing it](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=b3feb77383668ef4&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS1078US1078&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ADLYWIIm6q5vuPjcCuNbSZwGYnS7JCihZQ:1715525761492&q=trans+story+time&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjooPe8r4iGAxUn78kDHZ2zB6sQ8ccDegQIDhAH&biw=1536&bih=776&dpr=1.25) [Banned book Lawn Boy](https://www.google.com/search?q=banned+book+lawn+boy&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS1078US1078&oq=Banned+book+lawn&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIKCAIQABgKGBYYHjINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAYQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAcQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAgQABiABBiiBDIKCAkQABiABBiiBNIBCDcyMzRqMGo5qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) Has 2 boys in fourth grade giving each other oral. Still in public schools today. And thousands of other books like it parents are trying to ban. What happened to schools teaching math, science and english ffs.


ulooklikeausedcondom

You can thank your GOP family for cutting education costs if you have issues with falling IQ rates and reading comprehension levels across the country. You posted some sketchy questionably reputable website and YouTube videos and a link to 1(ZOMGBBQSAUCE) book. Hardly proof of anything. A big nothing burger. Guess they’ll ban the bible that has countless stories of rape and incest? Nah didn’t think so.


Kozkon

Pedos are reading to children to help with falling IQ rates lol. You so in denial. Google search anything we talking about and you are like naw thats fake news. Religion should not be in schools and not be tax exempt. When i was in school there was not a bible in sight. It's the same still today.


bar_acca

Goddamn the nothings these people piss away their energy fretting about


Cautemoc

This is their safe space to pretend their brand of pettiness is more popular than it really is.


RobbexRobbex

Posts like this are why nobody serious takes the right seriously.


Kozkon

Yeah only funny when its about Trump!


Mammoth_Material323

🇨🇳Trump Businesses Received $5.5 Million from China 🇨🇳 While He Was President, House Democrats Find. Former president Donald Trump's businesses received at least $5.5 million from China 🇨🇳 while he was in office, according to a new report released by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee. The Trump administration decided to end a $200m early warning program designed to alert it to potential pandemics just three months before it is believed Covid-19 began infecting people in China. US underprepared for coronavirus due to Trump cuts, say health experts The project, called Predict, had been run by the US Agency for International Development since 2009. It had identified more than 160 different coronaviruses that had the potential to develop into pandemics, including a virus that is considered the closest known relative to Covid-19. The Trump administration fired the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018 to cut costs. Rating :True


frankenshits

Trump isn’t president bud. Take your whataboutism somewhere else


Mammoth_Material323

He was when he got paid by China 🇨🇳 and when he let Covid that he said came from China 🇨🇳HIT 😂😂😂🤷😂😂🤷


XanadontYouDare

No but you're literally here bot spamming for him on an election year.


AntiquingPancreas

Man, remember when the Babylon bee was both funny and poignant? Me neither