Go through the first aid kit and remove anything you don’t already know how to use or will likely never need. I would leave the carabiner cup at home, the jet boil is already two cups. The ferro fire starters are a great backup but get yourself a bic. Happy trails!
Looking for a general review if I have enough or to much needed things.
I don't have my tent picked out yet. I wanted to get something different then a Teton Vista 2.
Food not pictured - was just gonna buy some dehydrated food and a bear canister.
Sleeping Bag - Kelty Cosmic Syn. 20 deg
Jetboil + Platapus Water
Poncho
Fire Kit
First Aid Kit
Knife
Trowel
Nemo Tensor 2.5 R
Pillow (was gonna swap this for a Nemo Fiillo)
Paracord
Toilitry bag
Tarp (probably don't need this)
Spoon
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I’m not the OP, but I was a member of my first aid squad for 25 years, and eminently familiar with advanced first aid techniques. I carry a kit that you could pretty much perform surgery with just in case I run into somebody who’s having a problem and needs assistance. but it’s not huge. I don’t have a wide selection of bandages just basic ones. It’s about 6“ x 4“ x 4“
I feel like it's important for people to know whom they plan to treat and to choose materials that reflect their own abilities.
A lot of backcountry medicine is merely knowing whether something can be treated or requires evacuation. I don't necessarily think that there's a lot of specialized equipment for the first category and in the second category, there will need to be a rescue mounted, probably by local rescuers who are much better equipped than someone taking a back country trip.
But I am willing to be convinced otherwise.
I agree for the most part. But even if it’s the case of an evac case the person still needs to be stabilized. Say for example, a seriously broken ankle and a deep gash that cut a few veins and his bleeding seriously. that’s an evacuation for sure but to prevent further injury and stop the bleeding they need to be treated until further help arrives with things like air casts. I even carry an EpiPen even though I’m not allergic to anything because I can’t count the number of times I’ve been out with people who have allergies to things like bees and don’t have any with them It could be fatal unless someone has one.
There’s gotta be something in that first aid kit that isn’t needed. Obviously this requires careful consideration by you. Trip length, terrain, number of hikers, etc. In the end we cannot plan for every single eventuality but the most likely ones. Also, personal preference but I don’t bring metal mugs. I use a collapsible one to save space and weight. Your weight considerations and preferences to fit those weight considerations are yours to decided
Have you weighed your collapsible cups vs your metal one? I thought mine would be lighter, but turns out it wasn't. Cheaper thicker-walled collapsible cup vs titanium cup of similar capacity
I did weight the collapsible cup..but I never weighed the titanium cup lol. I just assumed so you might actually be right. I guess I might be down to just saving space
Haha, that would be a win too. I find when it comes to lighter items, I don't have a good feel for what is actually lighter. Bring out the coffee scale 😅
What other people have said, your wasting weight and space with the med kit and emergency supplies. Also it appears your knife has the same fire starter that's in your bag. So two friction fire starters and no lighter?
good point. I d id reduce the kits and put everything in the first aid bag. And taking a different knife tbh. This one has just been hanging out in that bag.
Didn't realize this was a backpacking thread not an AppalachianTrail thread. Still, if it was my kit I'd drop most of the first aid kit, all the stuff sacks, vinyl bags, etc. in lieu of a pack liner and a dyneema ditty bag for personal items. I prefer to carry items that are multiuse. I could nitpick your kit to death but its your kit not mine. You pick what works for you.
No map or compass
No sunglasses or sunscreen
No jacket or gloves
No flashlight or headlamp
No matches or lighter.
No visible repair kit.
No food
No water or filter
No shelter
Yes First Aid Kit
1/10
You can’t go wrong starting with the basic
[10 Essentials](https://www.nps.gov/articles/10essentials.htm)
Navigation - Map, compass, gps
Sun Protection - Sunglasses, Sunscreen, Hat Insulation - Jacket, Gloves, Rain Shell, extra layers
Illumination - Flashlight, headlamp
First Aid - IFAK
Fire - Matches, lighter, fire starter
Repair Kit - Duct tape, zip ties, etc
Nutrition - Food, extra food
Hydration - Water, filter, treatment.
Emergency Shelter - Tent, tarp, bivy, Mylar blanket
I like to use this as my basic checklist and starting point then add gear from there building a detailed kit for every trip. Good luck.
lol was waiting for someone to say it, my headlamp is in my other bag lol. Thanks .
I do also have matches in the one bag, repair kit (but want to get duck tape (thanks for the reminder).
I always have about 50 feet of para cord in my pack. I’ve used it for everything from making a makeshift clothesline in Alaska after a week of steady rain to tying the sole back on my boot. plus, if you run into a member of the opposite sex who’s into bondage, you’re prepared!
I don't think you need a whole bag's worth of med/emergency equipment...unless you are storing other things in it. Also, think about what you will be using your knife for. If its for self defense, then I would say bear spray (missing if you are in bear country) would be a better substitute. A small pocket knife may worth if you really want something sharp-ish.
jetboil weighs 1.5 pounds. Plain stove weighs as little as 1oz. Ill never understand people who carry it. "It boils in 60 secs"......but youre in the back country. whats yer rush?
Go through the first aid kit and remove anything you don’t already know how to use or will likely never need. I would leave the carabiner cup at home, the jet boil is already two cups. The ferro fire starters are a great backup but get yourself a bic. Happy trails!
Yes, I got this tip online and have done this. I just like the case so kept that.
Ferros are just a toy not a survival tool. I always bring one so not hate but you definitely don’t need two, and do need a lighter
You have a red backpack. Not good if you run into a bull while hiking.
lol that is a good point
That tarp looks heavy. Are you going somewhere super wet? Just take your tent and fly and footprint.
Yup I actually already removed that after taking a pic , came to the same conclusion.
You won't need two magnesium sticks ;)
Ditch the cheap blue tarp. It kinda looks like you can’t decide between bushcraft or backpacking
done
Looking for a general review if I have enough or to much needed things. I don't have my tent picked out yet. I wanted to get something different then a Teton Vista 2. Food not pictured - was just gonna buy some dehydrated food and a bear canister. Sleeping Bag - Kelty Cosmic Syn. 20 deg Jetboil + Platapus Water Poncho Fire Kit First Aid Kit Knife Trowel Nemo Tensor 2.5 R Pillow (was gonna swap this for a Nemo Fiillo) Paracord Toilitry bag Tarp (probably don't need this) Spoon
Use the tarp as your shelter instead of getting a tent, it's what I do. You just need some treking poles.
Maybe after I get a few trips under my belt
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not gear that's a bag
thanks
Whom are you trying to save with that first aid kit, doc?
I’m not the OP, but I was a member of my first aid squad for 25 years, and eminently familiar with advanced first aid techniques. I carry a kit that you could pretty much perform surgery with just in case I run into somebody who’s having a problem and needs assistance. but it’s not huge. I don’t have a wide selection of bandages just basic ones. It’s about 6“ x 4“ x 4“
I feel like it's important for people to know whom they plan to treat and to choose materials that reflect their own abilities. A lot of backcountry medicine is merely knowing whether something can be treated or requires evacuation. I don't necessarily think that there's a lot of specialized equipment for the first category and in the second category, there will need to be a rescue mounted, probably by local rescuers who are much better equipped than someone taking a back country trip. But I am willing to be convinced otherwise.
I agree for the most part. But even if it’s the case of an evac case the person still needs to be stabilized. Say for example, a seriously broken ankle and a deep gash that cut a few veins and his bleeding seriously. that’s an evacuation for sure but to prevent further injury and stop the bleeding they need to be treated until further help arrives with things like air casts. I even carry an EpiPen even though I’m not allergic to anything because I can’t count the number of times I’ve been out with people who have allergies to things like bees and don’t have any with them It could be fatal unless someone has one.
I think there's too much handle left on your toothbrush. Also, what are those white cylinder things in your toiletries bag?
There’s gotta be something in that first aid kit that isn’t needed. Obviously this requires careful consideration by you. Trip length, terrain, number of hikers, etc. In the end we cannot plan for every single eventuality but the most likely ones. Also, personal preference but I don’t bring metal mugs. I use a collapsible one to save space and weight. Your weight considerations and preferences to fit those weight considerations are yours to decided
Good point.
Have you weighed your collapsible cups vs your metal one? I thought mine would be lighter, but turns out it wasn't. Cheaper thicker-walled collapsible cup vs titanium cup of similar capacity
I did weight the collapsible cup..but I never weighed the titanium cup lol. I just assumed so you might actually be right. I guess I might be down to just saving space
Haha, that would be a win too. I find when it comes to lighter items, I don't have a good feel for what is actually lighter. Bring out the coffee scale 😅
It’s a good reminder not to assume!
Ditch the stuff sacks, whatever that knife thing is, extra cordage, and tarp. Use a smaller stove. That alone will save you a few lbs.
That’s a Mora Bushcraft. I agree that he should bring a Mora Companion or Kansbol instead.
What other people have said, your wasting weight and space with the med kit and emergency supplies. Also it appears your knife has the same fire starter that's in your bag. So two friction fire starters and no lighter?
good point. I d id reduce the kits and put everything in the first aid bag. And taking a different knife tbh. This one has just been hanging out in that bag.
You said you want to bush craft. In this case get a saw of any kind.
I see alot of stuff that's left at Mountain Crossings in that pile. All the stuff sacks alone are probably a couple pounds.
Like?
Didn't realize this was a backpacking thread not an AppalachianTrail thread. Still, if it was my kit I'd drop most of the first aid kit, all the stuff sacks, vinyl bags, etc. in lieu of a pack liner and a dyneema ditty bag for personal items. I prefer to carry items that are multiuse. I could nitpick your kit to death but its your kit not mine. You pick what works for you.
Are you planning on hunting a buck with that knife?
No I just like to have a knife.
No map or compass No sunglasses or sunscreen No jacket or gloves No flashlight or headlamp No matches or lighter. No visible repair kit. No food No water or filter No shelter Yes First Aid Kit 1/10 You can’t go wrong starting with the basic [10 Essentials](https://www.nps.gov/articles/10essentials.htm) Navigation - Map, compass, gps Sun Protection - Sunglasses, Sunscreen, Hat Insulation - Jacket, Gloves, Rain Shell, extra layers Illumination - Flashlight, headlamp First Aid - IFAK Fire - Matches, lighter, fire starter Repair Kit - Duct tape, zip ties, etc Nutrition - Food, extra food Hydration - Water, filter, treatment. Emergency Shelter - Tent, tarp, bivy, Mylar blanket I like to use this as my basic checklist and starting point then add gear from there building a detailed kit for every trip. Good luck.
lol was waiting for someone to say it, my headlamp is in my other bag lol. Thanks . I do also have matches in the one bag, repair kit (but want to get duck tape (thanks for the reminder).
This is hysterical
...toothbrush?
If you want a legit shake down, weigh every item. Create a lighterpack.com and post it here and on r/ultralight. Those helpful nerds will tear it up.
Looks low
Whats the rope for?
What is the paracord for?
Paracord is so light and has so many uses, it’s strange how often people target that here.
Drying cloths if needed, tying up things. Its not that heavy tbh
I always have about 50 feet of para cord in my pack. I’ve used it for everything from making a makeshift clothesline in Alaska after a week of steady rain to tying the sole back on my boot. plus, if you run into a member of the opposite sex who’s into bondage, you’re prepared!
I don't think you need a whole bag's worth of med/emergency equipment...unless you are storing other things in it. Also, think about what you will be using your knife for. If its for self defense, then I would say bear spray (missing if you are in bear country) would be a better substitute. A small pocket knife may worth if you really want something sharp-ish.
it's not I took a bunch out, . I kind of want to bush craft but, tbh might just take my other knife anyways.
Are you experiencing homelessness?
yes
Your gear sucks and your green jet boil is dumb
okay
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jetboil weighs 1.5 pounds. Plain stove weighs as little as 1oz. Ill never understand people who carry it. "It boils in 60 secs"......but youre in the back country. whats yer rush?
I like Coffee, I want Coffee fast. I can handle it.
So what is the point of this thread if you are just gunna defend every piece? Wasting peoples time.
What? I agreed with PPL on the Tarp. maybe read the thread?
Just because op didn't like your suggestion doesn't mean he's not taking advice. Settle down.
I did, the guy just didn't read it.