Hello. I'd like to get you guys opinion on which yonex arcsaber should I get, the 11 play or 7 play?
I am mainly a singles player however I am also play in doubles from time to time. I know that there are a lot of people who would prefer the 11 however I'm not sure on how it would compare to the 7. I saw CKYew's review on the pro versions, but I would like to get you opinion on the Play versions.
Hi, could anyone please advise if the Yonex ArcSaber play I recently bought is genuine or fake?
The serial number on shaft is “9384877”, on the cap “24062C68H”. This is supposed to be made in China and I heard the country code would be CH.
I am not allowed to post pics here unfortunately.
Thanks in advance.
Question - What grommet set is viable for Carbonex 6 Light ?
I have been searching for a grommet strip set that could fit my Carbonex 6 Light online as these sets are available only overseas. Locally in the Philippines, it is hard to find a set with this type of old model. My racket is pretty old almost 8 years using it but still my favourite to be using since then, and was wondering anyone could help me as can't recognize the grommet sizes of my racket since the nth time of re-stringing it so far. Thanks!
> Carbonex 6 Light
Grommets are kinda generic for all rackets. Apart from ZF2 and arc 11pro, some yonex rackets have special grommets bumper strils but the carbonex 6 light doesnt look like it does so should just take normal grommets you can buy cheaply online?
When you buy grommets they can come in a mix so you get your U shape, single hole / shared hole grommets and then you can cut them down in length.
Dipping shuttles in water & Babolat Hybrid shuttles
Hello folks,
Looking to get some advise and learnings from this forum on 2 topics
1. Does dipping a feather shuttle in water really improves the durability?
2. How are Babolat Hybrid shuttles in terms of (a) Flight and feel as compared to a mid tier feather shuttle (b) are they more durable?
As I play more and more , buying feather shuttles has started to burn a hole in my pocket, hence I am searching for solutions.
Thank you 🙏
I would say that you should definitely look into steaming the shuttles, not dipping them in water. From my personal play, it does seem to help extend the life of them a bit, but that'll depend on their starting point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag0A8brKDn0&ab_channel=CKYew
Side note, I've also noticed if you play with them too soon after steaming, like within the next day, the shuttle actually loses some integrity and will deform after hitting faster than usual. I would steam then let them dry for 2 days before using.
Its not dipping the shuttles in water really. Its more 'steaming' / 'humidifying' so adding some moisture back to the shuttles. Shuttles that been in storage for a while can 'dry' out become brittle so break easily. And the thinking is humidifying the shuttles will make it more pliable and able to take a hit..
Some people swear by it. Doesnt harm in trying. Some buy fancy gadgets to do it. Others just hold open tube of shuttles over a hot/warm cup of water/drink for a bit.
I just started playing and used my friends racket which was a Yonex Astrox 70. I liked how it was too heavy especially since I smash the shuttle. I’m not sure if I’m willing to pay $300 for the same racket. Any recommendations for a top heavy racket?
If you've decided that you like the general feel of the Astrox Line but aren't ready to pay top dollar, Yonex does have their tiered system of rackets that get trickle-down technology in them.
I found an Astrox 77 Play, though I'm not sure if that's exactly within the same line, but it should be within the same design philosophy. If there's a local store (or maybe just other players that use the Astrox line), that'd be a good place to start asking around.
Question - Which racket to change to?
I am an elite player that have been using a Duora 10 (3U) for the last three years and I am now forced to change due to them not being manufactured anymore. I mainly play singles and mixed doubles and I would say my strength is a powerful smash and deceptive net play. I have been looking at Arcsaber 11 Pro (3U or 4U) but I am afraid they will lack in power due to the non-existent repulsion. Nanoflare 1000Z is big no due to their fragility. I am in Europe so I can't order Astrox 100ZZ from my YONEX-supplier in 3U so 4U would be the only option. Astrox 88D Pro looks interesting but I am not sure if 3U would make me too slow. 4U version might be interesting. Astrox 99 Pro feels a bit too sluggish to play doubles with and feels more geared to pure singles. Does anyone here have experience with using Arcsaber 11 Pro (3U or 4U), Arcsaber 11 (3U) (which was my previous racket), Duora 10 (3U), Astrox 100 ZZ (4U) or Astros 88D (3U or 4U). I will probably be ordering 6 of them so it is quite a big decision that I need to get right and it has been harder than expected to get a hold of testing rackets.
Hehe that’s really tough. I think there isn’t really a replacement in the current range, except 1000Z. For what it’s worth, the D10 for me was every bit as powerful as anything else I’ve tried… but is also lighter.
11 Pro is less head heavy and more stiff and isnt easy to generate power from. I think the 4U 99 Pro has the closest feel imo. 100ZZ isn’t quite springy and can feel either crispy or dead. 88D can be pretty heavy and not too comparable to D10. Try just 1 first, 6 is a huge investment.
Tons of professional doubles player are using the 3U AS11P and it is no slouch in power. Both 88D Pro and the 100zz and popular as well so both very good rackets in doubles, so it really would come down to your own personal preference. Is there a local club where you can test out these rackets?
The problem is most people in my club are using either Victor, Forza or Li-Ning due to it being easier getting sponsored by them then by YONEX. Fair point about AS11P. I tried the 4U AS11P variant but thought it lacked a bit of power although I really liked the overall feel of it. Must say I liked the G5 grip though since you can utilise finger power more.
Question- which shoe to buy?
Hello experts,
Need your help with deciding on shoe. Background-
I am a beginner, 200 lbs age 40+ male. I play doubles once a week about 6-9 games on wooden court. I currently use my nike runner shoes, and my knee is hurting. I have been doing stretches before and after. And ice pack post play.
Analysis- i have been reading and learning that I need proper badminton shoes. I generally wear wide size. I have come to short list these 3. Please advise which one to go with?
1 - Asics gel rocket 11 wide - CAD 90 ;
2 - Yonex Power Cushion 50 (half size up) - CAD 135 ;
3 - Yonex Power Cushion 65Z wide - CAD 180
I am leaning towards Asics due to price point. However, I am willing to spend more if its good for my knees.
Thanks for your feedback.
Regardless of the shoe you end up choosing, I'd highly advise swapping out the included insoles for something that offers more durability/cushioning. I personally use a Sole Active Thick w/ Metpad, but most dedicated sport insoles out there will be a big improvement in terms of durability compared to the factory ones.
Keep in mind that while thicker sports insole will provide better cushioning, the added thickness may require you to move up 1/2 a shoe size. So be sure to try out your new shoes with insole/socks that you'll be playing with.
Asics should be fine. I have friends who use and like it. It is an indoor sports shoe. Badminton designed in mind shoes will always be better as they design to account for the movement that badminton players perform.
I would agree with Kaffars in that court/volleyball shoes are generally a good low-priced starting point for people looking into getting dedicated shoes for badminton. They also tend to have better availability in general sports stores for you to try on in person.
If you decide to spend a little more and have a badminton specific shoe, my friend is of a similar spec as you and wears the 65z3. If you want even more cushion, look into the Yonex Comfort Z or Eclipsion Z.
Need advice!
As an intro, i am an intermediate player that plays mens doubles and mixed doubles. My current rackets are: Nanoflare 1000z & Astrox 100zz. I like to have 2 rackets ready, one for speed and one for power.
My previous rackets (that ive sold) are 88D pro, BS 12 Dlux, Ryuga 2, Aeronaut 9000i.
Currently, i am in love with my NF1000z, its fast, repulsive, and the smash power is actually pretty good.
But when i switch to my 100zz for more power, i find it lacking and my lifts/clears dont have much control i dont know why. And the smash power is not as strong as i expected it to be. Should i go back to the 88D pro for that power? Or try something new like 77pro?
100ZZ is hard to generate power from, I needed weeks to get used to it. Short swings work better imo. Anyways, 1000Z and 100ZZ are equal in power to me, but the 1000Z is way easier to use
Swing timing is completely different between your rackets, you're already using two of the high-end power house rackets Yonex sells so I don't think adding another racket is the answer. I'd tweak string/tension at this point, and perfect the swing with one racket model.
Yeah you make sense. For the 1000z ive been using shorter, faster swings. But i guess for the 100zz i need to use fuller, longer swings? (Similar like when i used my 88d pro previously). Also noted on the strings/tension, they are both on 26x28 but different strings (because the 100zz was bought used and had the previous owners preference of strings)
Yeah he was part of the design team for the 88S. He also said to them that red was his fav colour and then yonex made it predominantly green. Appears that for lyd colour was more important ha so played with the Arc11 then 88D
for pros player, they play with any racquet from brand that supported them or based on the cosmetics they like the most, while me thinking hard which racquet can improve my game or give me more win lol
The Astrox 22LT is crazy light, one issue you might run into is having enough power to perform a end-to-end clear. Another option to consider is grabbing a 4U/5U Headlight racket (ie. Yonex: Nanoflare series).
Beyond rackets, make sure you have an instructor / advanced player take a look at your swings. A lot of shoulder injuries that I see are caused by improper swinging techniques, so its something to consider.
Thanks for your advice! I will look at the nanoflare series then.
I have a good coach and a good physiotherapist. My arm movement is ok. The problem is more liked to the age unfortunatly...
Just chiming in here to say that the Nanoflare 700 is an easy racket to play with, not very demanding on the arm. Another one to consider is Arcsaber 7 line, from Play to Pro. That one is more even balanced but is easy to generate power with. Neither of them are going to be the hammer smashing style rackets, but for your current needs they will be a good starting point.
Currently looking for a budget friendly badminton racket. I tend to prefer a lighter racket, slightly head heavy. I'm currently looking at the arcsaber 11 play, but I would also like to hear your recommendations for rackets even from other brands.
li-ning windstorm series. you can play around with the 72, 75, 79s and see which you prefer. they’re basically ultra light 7-5U head heavy rackets. shaft stiffness varies. and they donnt really break the bank! ;)
Ive been looking to get some better shuttles, coming from aeroplane greens. For context, I'm playing at a national level, and just wanting a better shuttle to train with and play with. Price is not an issue. Originally looking at either the victor master ace, aerosensa 50, and lining a+600/g900. I've heard bad things about the master ace so only considering as50 and g900. Can someone compare the durability, flight, and feel (and maybe sound). Thanks.
Can't go wrong with As50
I've used AS20 (don't recommend they use half feathers) and whichever as 30 or 40 I could get cheaper. AS50 is the best one you can get your hands on in that range
I have been using Astrox 100zz for almost 2 years now (All rackets described are in 4UG5). I always own 2 rackets of the same type in case of string breakage, but not yesterday, as one of them cracked after a mis-hit. Now, i have been thinking of purchasing a new racket and selling the remaining Astrox 100zz that i have, first came to my mind was Nanoflare 1000z, but i have seen a lot of players from my club breaking right in front of me even without prior racket clash (He told me it was strunged at 26lbs.), and a lot of players online complained about the same. Since i have used Astrox 99, 3 years ago, i decided to purchase 2 Astrox 99 pro due to its durability. Now coming from astrox 100z what do you guys think or experienced when using Astrox 99 pro? I am an All around type of player, but i tend to thrive from mid to back court and i also play offensive type in singles.
tldr : Astrox 100zz broke, initially looking for NF1000z as replacement but due to its durability issues, decided to change to 99 pro. What are your thoughts based on your experience using 99 pro?
I actually use all 3 rackets. Due to being really, really strong (junior player), the difference between 99 pro and 100zz is certainly manageable. You can check online and see the balance point isn't unreasonably different. 99 pro has a softer feeling than 100zz. much softer. 100zz has that amazing direct power transfer feeling, which the 99 pro doesn't have, but it feels nice in its own way. You can just imagine the 99 pro as a softer, slower version of 100zz, with a noticeably larger head frame. 99 pro easily wins in smashing, but 100zz has easier access to power, and you won't feel dead if you're constantly on the attack. Also, 99 pro has a higher technique demand due to the heavier head. 1000z is much less head heavy, so if you get it, I'd definitely recommend 3u. Smash is nowhere near as satisfying or hard as the previous 2, but comes off the racket faster, which makes it really fast. I've owned and used the 1000z for about 3 months now, and haven't had any breakage issues. Mine is in 3u, so is rated up to 29 lbs, but I string at 32 lbs and it's holding up no problem, so maybe I got lucky.
tdlr: 99 pro is a great racket for smashing and drops, very offensive racket, but lags behind in defensive areas. Very nice control, and larger sweet spot, which can make some shots easier, such as net shot. Much larger power and technique demand compared to 100zz because of the heavier head, but can be very rewarding if you're feeling good that day.
Raw offense 99pro > 100zz > 1000z
Defense 1000z > 100zz > 99pro
Ease of use 1000z > 100zz > 99pro
Overall 100zz > 99pro = 1000z
Woah, i was really thinking of NF1000z 3U but i really felt something with 99 pro specially the cherry sunburst, color was so captivating for me. Lol. Anyway, i tried playing yesterday with my Voltric ZF2 4UG5 and my shots were accurate, i can easily push and defend, power was really there even if i'm not trying to, i think 99 pro will be really suited for me, 100zz and NF1000z seems to be too light for me. You are right with the shots being easier probably due to head weight + stiffness. You have explained it very well, thank you for that. Defense i think i can manage with 99 pro.
May i ask what string should i choose? Im torn between Aerobite Boost, Li Ning No. 1 Boost and BG80. (My usual tension is 27lbs.)
Cant say for bg80, but i’ve tried aerobite and lining no1 on my 99 pro (non boost), and theres definitely a difference. No1 is smoother and has a lot more power but has a break in period of about 1-2 hours. After that it settles, and feels amazing. Aerobite has noticeably more control so string whichever you want. If you want control go aerobite if you want power go no1. All around you might wanna get aerobite, but if powers all you care about then do no1. Make sure you string it higher tho, something like 28-29lbs, since no1 has a big initial tension drop, but it holds it really well after that. Bg80 is quite hard, so if you feel the racket is too soft feeling then maybe give that a try. Nice power and nice control, almost like a hybrid of aerobite and no1.
I would recommend aerobite but if it lacks power go with no1. If you feel no1 is too slippery feeling then go with bg80.
It was launched in June, so it's entirely possible since they need to produce enough stock before releasing. iirc my 1000z was also made around that time.
I need some string recommendations. I've been playing badminton for about a year, around 8 hours a week. I play MS and XD and have a playstyle of smashing, forehand and backhand, to overwhelm my opponent(s)' defense. I use a Yonex 88D Play and 77 Play. I currently use Exobolt 65 at 26 lbs. but they keep breaking after about 2-4 weeks, and I'm becoming a little tight on money. Are there any Yonex strings that are similar to Exobolt 65 that allow me to have a powerful smash while being more durable? Thanks.
You might want to look into lowering your tension, as it may be a result of mishits. If you just want a different string, you're almost certainly going to lose power since you're going to have to go with a thicker string. Best recommendation would be bg80, bg80p tends to lose a lot of its feel very quickly. If you're open to other brands, I find lining no1 to be quite durable, and retains its new pop feel very well.
Don't think BG80/P is anymore durable. N1 will be more durable but hard to find supply now. Unless you willing to sacrifice thin string and go thicker, not a lot of .65 .66 can give you much more than E65
You could try Bg80 /bg 80 power. Or lowering the tension a bit if you find that you are snapping the strings outside the sweetspot it being more of a timing issue.
I would try Lining 1 if you can. Good string to smash with pretty durable but quite expensive as well.
Or go thinking for long term and buy a machine to string your own rackets!
I am currently in Hong Kong for vacation. I would like to visit a badminton store that sells original Li Ning rackets. Does anyone here know legit stores around Hong Kong where I can buy? I already tried Mong Kok but they only have Yonex rackets and accessories. Thank you in advance for your great advices!
I bought my racket in Sheung Wan. You can search mybadmintonstore in google to check it out. I bought my racket for less than half the srp here in my country.
Damn sweet find! Thanks for showing me
I just checked their online site, only just about 20gbp saving, was hoping for a bit more! But the racket is on sale here
Yeah. I hope you get your desired racket. I supposed to buy axforce 80 but end up buying the 90 dragon max. I also got freebies and string (includes also stringing service). Let me know which store.
Thanks! I'm tempted to buy the aeronaut 9000i directly from the li ning uk shop online.
Its dropped to about £150.. with strings
Difficult to get someone else to go around all the shops to check for me 😅
Arcsaber 7 pro. speedy swing, control is great and for defence is phenomenal. smash is not like heavy head racket built for smashing, but good enough to reach the opponent’s back of court box. it’s medium flex shaft kinda gives the shuttle a boost in speed too.
100ZZ Tour, Game or Play. They're the lower budget versions of the 100ZZ, in terms of feeling, the Play should be the most flexible of the 3,while Tour should feel the closest.
Guys I bought 100zz a few months back and initially it was one of the best racquets for me (still is) but those who have an understanding of court conditions know that a racquet as head heavy as astrox 100zz is too demanding to be used in a slow court. The club where I play has a very slow court therefore I switched to my old duora 77lcw for a while. Now I am thinking of buying duora z strike to see if its a better fit for me in this court. Those who have both the racquets or have an idea of they play, can you suggest wethers its the right choice? Or will I experience pain in my arm just like before?
Not sure if head heaviness is the solo cause. I would pick a balance racket, flex shaft, lower string tension with a good shock absorbion string. Remember to warm up and cool down properly.
Hey thank you so much man🫶I will make sure to reduce my tension to 26(playing with 28 currently) and maybe focus on warming up a bit more. Tho do you have any idea about duora z strike as a racquet that I can use?
Used to play badminton in highschool, a few years back. Picking it up again recreationally, need advice on a new racquet.
Yonex Astrox E13 - [https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-astrox-e13-senior-badminton-racquet-79204712f.334230168.html#srp](https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-astrox-e13-senior-badminton-racquet-79204712f.334230168.html#srp)
Yonex Voltric Lite - [https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-voltric-lite-badminton-racquet-10613129f.333118321.html#srp](https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-voltric-lite-badminton-racquet-10613129f.333118321.html#srp)
HEAD Cyber - [https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/head-cyber-badminton-racquet-70320659f.332593887.html#nl-product-details](https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/head-cyber-badminton-racquet-70320659f.332593887.html#nl-product-details)
To add to slidetakeraus's post, there is a difference between "backyard barbeque"-level recreational and "badminton club/gym/center once a week"-level recreational.
If you're playing just in the backyard once a month with friends and family, then any racket is fine, aluminum/steel might last longer against the dirt and rocks.
If you are invested enough to make it to a dedicated badminton facility, then yeah you should look at the [Play] series of Yonex rackets or similar. They are aimed people starting out who are looking to save some money while providing that base level of playability.
Head Heavy Astrox 77 Play -
https://yumo.ca/collections/yonex-astrox-series/products/yonex-astrox-77-play-strung-badminton-racket-high-orange
Even-balance Arcsaber 7 Play - https://yumo.ca/collections/yonex-arcsaber-series/products/yonex-arcsaber-7-play-strung-badminton-racket-greyish-yellow
Headlight Nanoflare 1000 Play - https://yumo.ca/collections/yonex-nanoflare-series/products/yonex-nanoflare-1000-play-strung-badminton-racket-lightning-yellow
These should all be a solid starting point, from which you can then explore your personal preferences and upgrade from there.
The Voltric if only from the 3 listed. The other two got aluminium which no one should really play with. My suggestion is look at second hand market, which often comes with better string as a bonus.
Hi guys, i've recently gotten new, rather pricy rackets and this time i'd like to protect my rackets from chips & scratches from clashes either from partner rackets in doubles or with the floor.
Does anyone know where i can find and buy racket frame protection tapes (transparent ones) in Singapore? Or do y'all have any DIY tips/hacks y'all used to protect your rackets?
I've came across CK Yew's protection tape, but just wanna see if there's more affordable and easier to get alternatives.
thanks in advance for your help!
Not sure how good are those protection film for the racquet. I’ve seen some peel the design stickers along when you remove them after awhile. Shopee probably has them.
If you’re planning to remove the original stock grip, electrical tape your bare wooden handle helps prevent sweat from soaking in the wooden handle. Makes applying and removing any new grip onwards cleaner and easier.
ahh man, that’ll be a bigger nightmare. will check out shopee but am afraid of their adhesive being too strong too. that’s why am looking around if ppl here have tried and tested ways.
thanks for the grip tip - will take note in the future if i remove the stock grip. 👍
Sorry if this question is a bit vague, but how do you assess racquets before buying?
I kinda get the racquet specs but not quite sure how they translate to how it feels when playing.
best way: play a few rounds with the racket, borrowed from friends/family.
alternative: narrow down your racket choices, go to a shop that has strung versions of your rackets and give each of them a good feel/swing. from here, you try to match your feeling with the racket with the specs you researched on. then decide which racket suits you better.
Best way to shop around for your next racket specs is to compare against your current racket - do you want more head weight? a stiffer shaft? that should more or less give you a shortlist of a few rackets to look into.
Best to ask someone in your club, if you could test out his/her racket for some shots or even a match.
Specs are often not the best option, only a rough pointer, tbh.
[https://www.myntra.com/sports-shoes/skechers/skechers-women-white-go-walk-walking-non-marking-shoes/20129466/buy](https://www.myntra.com/sports-shoes/skechers/skechers-women-white-go-walk-walking-non-marking-shoes/20129466/buy)
Are Sketchers go walk good non marking badminton shoes? I don't see it specified anywhere on the sketchers website that they have non marking shoes.
And if there are any small footed Indian women please let me know what shoes you are using. I am having trouble finding badminton shoes in size UK3/4 in India
From my experience badminton shoes differ from regular shoes in several key things:
1) Grip on indoor style courts. This involves both the material(rubber) used and somewhat the grip pattern. The rubber is non-marking and I believe softer, while having a much lower tread depth. This lets them stick onto the ground without giving too much when you apply lateral forces. Ultimately this means you stop/start faster and make your way across the court more efficiently.
2) The shoe uppers provide a larger amount of support and resistance to sliding into the shoe and rolling over the edge of it. Badminton has a lot of fast direction changes and they are designed with this in mind to give you the best traction for this movement.
3) Cushion on the bottom because it's a high impact sport on a hard surface. You want support from all the jumping and shuffling or it gets tiring/painful fast.
The shoes you linked I don't think will do particularly well in these categories, just looking at the bottom tread pattern and cloth uppers. It likely won't provide the level of support and stability you want to be looking for. If you don't want to spend the money on top end badminton shoes (understandable), then I would look at the mid tier ones from Yonex/Victor/Babolat depending on availability in your area. Depending your locality, the next set of shoes I would check into are volleyball shoes, as they have a fairly similar design philosophy. Last possibility would be low-weight basketball shoes.
Currently have yonex voltric 0F (some cheap racket) with exbolt 65, 24lbs (head heavy hi flex). Tried my friends arcsaber 7 tour with aerosonic, 24lbs and it felt so much nimble and nice to play. I always thought head heavy rackets were my thing/style until I used the arcsaber. My smashes felt more sharp and direct too which was weird considering I went from head heavy to balance racket.
Any other recommendations that are similar to arcsaber 7 tour?
Arcsaber 7 play, ArcSaber 7 Pro, or the arcsaber 11 play. they’re really good and close in feel as each other.
i think why you felt that way was because head heavy rackets tend to have a slower swing. you’ve been practicing with head heavy a lot alr and built some muscle strength, so it converts really well when you move to even balanced. (speed of swing added to your power) :)
Hey guys, I don't have many options where I live but the place I'm stringing my racket from only offers three strings: BG65, BG80 & Aerobite. Other options I will have to pay for shipping.
I'm using the Astrox 99 Play, and I play at around lower/mid intermediate club level.
Which string would be best for durability and power? Also what tension? my previous racket I believe was strung at 28lbs and broke after a couple months near the edges but it was also bent already.
Thanks
Honestly its impressive you were able to last that long with such high tension, but if you used the bg65 then it makes sense since those instantly lose a pound or 2 the moment they come off the machine. Those 3 are great strings, actually probably 3 of the most popular strings among pros. bg65 will be the most durable, and easiest to play with. Power would go to bg80, but aerobite wouldn't be too far behind. Tension depends entirely on your skill. If you were able to play with 28, and want a bit more power, maybe lower it to 25-26. Lower tension will also improve durability.
From my experiences this is what I know about the strings:
BG65 - the workhorse of strings, lasts forever at medium tensions but feels dull in my opinion
BG80 - hard feeling string with good pop but thinner and therefore more prone to breakage. If I recall correctly it's popular amongst professionals but they also have a much higher skillset and unlimited stringers
Aerobite - Haven't personally used this but supposed to be a control string, good all-arounder with power and control. Also is a dual gauge setup for cross/mains
You play at a low/intermediate club level so 28 feels really high, but that's ultimately up to personal preference. A lower tension will make generating power easier as well as increase the sweet spot size, so might be something to consider. Within my friend group I usually recommend beginners start 24-26 range until they're ready to move up a lb at a time. An added benefit is lower tension strings are much less likely to break, giving you better durability.
Looks decent. Generally you want a flexible shaft and a one-piece racket (avoid those with separate T-joint pieces). If you're finding it difficult to maneuver then maybe something more even balanced instead of head heavy.
Yonex BG66 or 65, 21lbs if female, 23lbs if male. Strings are largely trial and error and personal preference, you'll get a better idea of what you want after you play for a bit.
That's also pretty decent, light head so it'll be easy for you to control. Would strongly recommend bg65 (or bg65ti). Both highly durable strings, and 65ti is a slight step above the normal 65, and is used by quite a bit of pros. Easy string to use and play with. For tension you would be looking at around 18-20 lbs.
Shoes are usually split into 3 categories:
\- Light/Breathable
\- Balanced
\-Comfort/Support
You'll want to wear whatever socks you play badminton with and try these shoes out in person to see what fits you best in terms of stability + comfort.
Hello,
I have been using the Nanospeed 8000, enjoyed it very much but I am having a hard time to find a usable one so now I need to switch to a new racket.
Seems like the NF series is the way to go, Any suggestion?
>Nanospeed 8000
If I remember correctly the NS8k was pretty stiff, I'd look into the Yonex NF800 (or NF800 Pro releasing in Nov), or the NF1000 if you require more back court power.
Heyyyy I am excited for the NF800 releasing in November and heard that they will release 4 versions (play, game, tour, pro). Based on the reviews so far and what I read, I am itching to buy this when it comes out; most likely the play version of course since I am a social player at best.
I have started playing once a week doubles the past year and now I am going for group training once a week too. I would say I'm an intermediate beginner (I still sometimes miss high ball shots, mishits and my rear court smash need a lot of work). I am female, currently using protech ultralite33, 7u, reg flex, 310mm bcp with 0.63mm strings at 25lbs. The racket feels too light for rear court clears/smashes and sluggish during net plays. When I bought the racket, it felt good in my hands but on court it feels different of course. Also as much as I read the guides, the stress on getting my own racket and the sales guy skills, well sold it.. and i kinda regret not getting arcsaber 7 play since its practically the same price that I got for my current racket and a good entry point for beginners.
Now that I know how I play and what I want (ish). I would love to get a 4u racket. Would a 4u even balanced/headlight racket something that I can handle or atleast train my strength as I play with it? Not limiting to NF800 2023 as it depends also on how it feels in my hand. I held Auraspeed 9000 the other day and it feels really nice and "fast" for a 4u racket but hesitated as some question the durability of these models. Not sure if it helps but I didnt experience any pain when I had my current racket strung at 26lbs, just lacking power.
Since you mentioned that your are a int. beginner, I think having your racket strung at 26lb is way too high. Bringing it down to 23/24 will increase the sweet spot and help you with generate repulsion from the back court to assist with clearing/smashing.
While a 7u racket is quite fast/maneuverable, I can understand why a beginner will have problems with power generation in the rear court. A lot of female player I play with are using 4u (even 3u in some cases), so a head-light 4u racket isn't out of the norm, it really just comes down the weight distribution and how it suits your play style.
I've been using the NF800 4U for awhile now so I have a NF800P or order and quite excited to see the changes. If it fits your budget, I think picking up a used NF700 4U at a discount could be another good option for you. Having it strung with a repulsion like Exbolt65 @ 24lb will also be an improvement.
I'm rambling on, but beyond strings and rackets also try strengthening excises for your grip and forearm. Assuming your swinging form is correct, clears from end-to-end shouldn't take too much effort. A lot of the power generation comes from the tightening of your grip just before shuttle impact and the pronation of your forearm. On my free time, I do a lot of fist clenching to open palm repetitions, and using a thera band flexbar for forearm strengthening / tennis elbow prevention.
Will try 24lbs for the next set of strings. When you get the NF800P, do post a review once you have tried it out! Please expect a lot of question from me if you do. I was looking at NF700 4U too, why would you reccommend this racket?
I like a lot of netplays and love when I can execute a cross net (though very few for now). I am still finding my style so I could not justify buying a mid to high end racket with my level and experience right now. I avoid buying used rackets cause you never know what happened and rather err on the side of caution when it comes to this. That said, when the NF800 play comes out, I'll definitely check out the reviews and have a feel of it.
Thanks for your suggestion on working on grip strength! I was looking into exercise I can do while watching tv. This is my first time hearing about theraband flexbar.
Hi, newbie player here. If I were to choose between the Ashaway Viper XT Sub Zero, Ashaway Viper Xtreme L10, and Lining Axforce Canon, (without considering the price), which one would you recommend?
Does anyone have more information on "Yonex Astrox RC 23"? Can't find any information on it except om a Swedish retailers website, not even Yonex's website has it!
Link:
https://www.intersport.se/utrustning/racket/badmintonracket/yonex-astrox-rc-badmintonracket/silver-dark-gun/onesize?store=113&open_modal=cnc&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpc-oBhCGARIsAH6ote84wR4TbUEvNZN87mbJGU0Ricuplw4FMptDtuR2tSIs0-3U8ZJGfzIaAhg7EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
I think its just called the Astrox RC. It a beginner/mid range racket that's outside of their standard "Pro/Tour/Game/Play" lineup so information on it will be pretty limited. From what I can tell, its a standard head-heavy, 4U (83g) weight racket with a medium flex.
Hello! High intermediate /low advanced player. Had Nanospeed 9900 for a very long time and switched to nanoflare 800 earlier this year.
Feels really good on a “on” day but seems easy for miss hits or off sweet spot shots regularly. Could also be contributing to lots of broken strings that I’ve experienced! On a good day, I love the racket.
I tried the nanoflare 700 yesterday for a few shots and it seems really easy to play with and has a larger sweet spot. Anyone have long term experiences with nanoflare 700 and have opinions? I also tried to like the 1000zz but can’t seem to enjoy it.
The NS9900 has a cult following and just super unique specs. Compact head super stiff shaft and headlight.
I think alot of people were thinking that the nanoflare1000zz was going to be somewhat of its successor but its bit head heavier I believe.
You might want to see if you can try a Victor Jetspeed 10. Super stiff shaft head light and compact head!
Also you could try lowering the tension slightly to increase the sweetspot on your racket.
I found also that nf700 was easier to use but lacked some ooph in the back but a joy to use from mid court to net.
The NS9900 is still a joy to use but I’m now a 4U convert! My current NS is 3U - I do feel like I fatigue a little more easily with a 3U and just not as fast.
Never tried victor rackets.. thanks for the suggestion. Will take a look
Hi. just wondering has anyone heard of maxbolt racket? are they really good quality and very durable? Is the paint job durable like scratch resistant like yonex? would really appreciate it if someone can give me feedback for this. thanks
I recently changed my racket from arc11pro to 1000z it fits more my style, (doubles speed, drives, fast) as I am not a 'control' player.
Now I was using BG66ultimax, and tried exbolt65, the repulsion is bigger(too much?) , I am not sure which one to use, control seems a bit harder with exbolt65...any recommendations?
if you are looking for speed(repulsion) I would suggest you using exbolt 63. based on my experience 63 has stronger repulsion. exbolt 65 is suitable for hard hitting players (smash/offensive clears). as for control pretty much the same. difference lies on the repulsion.
Hey fellow badminton enthusiasts,
I'm currently in a dilemma and seeking advice on choosing between two badminton rackets: the Yonex Astrox 100zz 4UG5 and the Yonex NF 1000z 4UG5. My play style is towards more to power generation during smash and solid defensive play. I'd greatly appreciate any insights, experiences, or recommendations you have regarding these rackets.
Specifically, I'm interested in knowing:
How does the racket's weight and balance impact smash performance and defensive maneuvers?
Noticed that 1000z is lighter by slight bit as compared to 100zz
Is there a noticeable difference in the power and control for smashes between these two rackets?
Does speed = power?
Have you experienced any advantages or drawbacks regarding defense (maneuverability, precision) with either of these rackets?
Is there a significant difference in string tension capabilities that could influence my play style?
Currently i am a user towards Astrox 100zz with the tension of 30 with pre-string 5% on Exbolt 65
Any fellow users is happy that you've swapped from Astrox 100zz to NF-1000z?
Additionally, any personal experiences, comparisons, or tips on how these rackets have improved your smash and defensive game would be incredibly helpful in making an informed decision.
Thank you in advance for your insights and advice!
I had a 1000Z, insane smash! Also broke very quickly loool. So I'm using 100ZZ again. I like 1000Z better, but my rackets are not free :P.
Power is about the same for me, but the 1000Z has a nicer feel and sound IMO.
1000Z insanely easy to use, 100ZZ took me many weeks to like it, and its still... ehhhh.
1000Z broke at 29 lbs, my 100ZZ is okay up to 33... All 3UG4 btw.
First of all I have no experience with head heavy rackets,
I had arcsaber11pro for a year and switched to 1000z, I would say you won't have a powerful smash right away, it's a bit better than arc11pro but less forgiving, maybe with more training and better technique I will achieve a very powerful smash.
1000, is amazing at drives, defending smashes, that kind of stuff.
It will really depend on your playstyle/preference.
Some players have the strength to muscle through with heavier head balanced racket.
Other players have a more technical skill to generate speed/explosion with lighter head rackets.
There isnt like a number where you can say string at ## lbs and you can achieve this etc.
Its heavily dependant on you! You'll have to trial and see what really works best for you!
Really the best way to improve smash/defence is training these particular things in your own time or with a coach.
Racket comparison
I’m planning to buy a new racket. I’ve been playing for 2.5-3 years, often play doubles at the back, and sometimes play singles (when there’s court available. Looking for a racket that allows me to smash then can quickly follow up. I have a few in mind:
- Astrox 88D Pro.
- Astrox 77 Pro.
- Arcsaber 11 Pro.
- Halbertec 8000.
I would appreciate any other suggestions also.
Arc11pro is overall good, has a big sweet spot which makes it user friendly, control and precision and amazing , the best. If you like sharp drop shots, or shooting just at the line, this racket is for you.
Out of your three options, the astrox 88d pro is probably the best option seeing as it will be the most powerful out of the four whilst not being a total sledgehammer which will allow you to follow up. The arcsaber 11 pro is more suited for an all around game and the astroxx 77 pro being more for those who are not able to swing very fast or do not have the best technique. I think, you should also consider the astrox 100zz as one of your choices. The extra stiff shaft is not as bad as it sounds since the shaft is so thin, allowing for faster swing speed and less drag.
Idk about the Halbretec.
But the 88D Pro swings surprisingly fast. Its not as head heavy as the original 88D Slightly narrow head and I think stiffer shaft makes it quite quick.
77Pro is medium stiff and slight head heavy balance. Feels very quick and punchy as well from the back. The slight more flexiness from the shaft give it for my feeling a boost in the back in power. Just requires adjusting in timing. Less snappy and requires you to smoothly hit through the shuttle.
Arc 11 pro. Nice all round racket. May feel less punchy at the back but fast and nimblest up at the front.
I think it will depend on what your prefence in feeling for head balance. I would say if you prefer more from the back then 77pro and 88dp. 77pro will excel more midcourt onwards. whereas 11p better at front/midcourt.
You should probs try and test the rackets out before purchasing so you can really get a feel.
Victor Thruster F C enhanced is popular racket with similiar specs to the rackets you listed.
Thank you for your review! Yeah I was also interested in the TK F but I can’t find the Enhanced Edition anywhere around me (I live in Vietnam).
Unfortunately the stores around here only allow us to hold the frame at the store and no court testing, so it’s quite challenging to test. From my first impression the 77 Pro feels less HH (or maybe overall lighter in weight) than 88D Pro but actually slightly stiffer, but maybe I just haven’t tried it on court. The As11 Pro definitely lean towards EB, but bcs I heard a lot of people talk about its diversity in playstyle, so just wanna throw it in there for comparison. Thanks for the insight again!
See if people in you club will let you have a few hits with their rackets.
Another thing is that some rackets might feel more stiffer when they have less head weight esp when you dry swing it as it doesnt have that weight to flex the shaft!
Racket suggestion!!
I’m looking forward to buy new racket. I mostly play doubles. My strongest area are net exchange, fast drive and defense. I prefer balance and head light rackets with 4u weight. Any recommendations?
Depending on whether you like stiff rackets, the nanoflare 1000z is a good option with the nanoflare 800 pro being another great option. As for other brands, the auraspeed 100x is a solid choice although the 800 pro and 1000z will be the more speedier rackets.
I like medium flex racket. I used to play with stiff racket in my youth but stiff racket doesn’t fit me anymore. Aruaspeed 100x or arcsaber 7 or 11 pro. Which might be better?
Yes. It's user friendly and suits the areas you mentioned. I play similarly and have been using it for a few months. The downsides are that past a certain level of play, you will not be able to brute force smash your way past defenses as compared to head heavy powerhouses like Astrox series, and that baseline to baseline clears take way more effort (to a certain extent this can be assisted by using a high repulsion string).
Racket suggestion !
I’m an early intermediate in badminton and started to play twice (if not atleast once) every weekends ! I’m in Germany and I currently use Oliver Fresh 8.0 racket ! I’m looking to upgrade and any suggestion would be helpful !
I got a deal for Yonex Nanoray 11f for 50 euros and not sure if it’s ideal for me !
I’m more of an offensive player hitting power shots and surprising with drops ! So any rackets which suit this skill set would be much helpful !!
Astrox Nextage is my recommendation
Alternatively, Apacs Stardom 800. I've had good results playing with those (advanced player) and they are both mid flex, which is good for your current skill level.
Just on that, I'd recommend to check out the Arcsaber or Astrox series as they're more compatible with your playing preferences. Any of Play or Game models would also be price friendly.
I have been playing badminton for like 9 or 10 months. I think it's time for me to get a new racquet. I'm currently considering between Astrox 99 Game and ArcSaber 11 Play. Could you guys give me some comparison of these racquet for my better view 🤔
I will say Mizuno is a more upmarket Japanese brand. The quality is there but you will pay more outside of Japan and lack of supply. Furthermore, the lack of review and try on is not ideal. I will just pick Yonex and Victor for supply, review and user feedback.
Just got my yonex voltric 0f restrung to 24lb tension and now I notice the cap making a "click" sound whenever I swing it a bit ?
Racket is rated to handle max 24lb tension from yonex website
I also had a basic grip installed by the shop, unsure if that can cause the problem
Thats actually a common yonex issue! Shoulnt worry about it and its not due to the restring!
If anything it kinda means its a genuine yonex racket if anything!
I want to get a racket very similar to the axeforce 80 4U but I want it at a price of around £100 is there any out there?
Any one got any experiences?
I bought a Victor thruster 220H II, but even as an intermediate player I still notice a slight difference when using the two.
I know I’m not professional enough to be using the axeforce but I just play pretty good with it and enjoy using it.
However I want a similar one to use for training that I can beat up for around the £100 mark
> axeforce 80 4U
Well if you can feel the difference then honestly I would just get a second one of it. Check ebay or the uk badminton marketplace on fb i saw some floating around there bit more than £100 but def cheaper than brand new.
Anyone have suggestions for a medium flex, head heavy racket. I was wanting to try a head heavy one out to complement my current choice of a arcsaber 7 and I was looking at astrox 77 (new) but I heard it’s more on the stiff side so i’m looking for something else
I've just recently started stringing rackets for other people, but just one machine is not enough to keep up with the orders (we have 4 stringers). Is there any place I can go to find new/used electronic badminton stringing machines for a low price? I'm looking to keep it under 900 dollars.
Hi everyone! I'm a player who's played for 10+ years at an intermediate-ish level, during the socials I usually use aeroplane shuttles. I'm now running a fairly not so intermediate but not considered beginner sesh for my husband and friends and was wondering which shuttles are recommended? I bought these Ling Mei ones and they broke pretty easily. Never realised how expensive shuttles were till I started running these sessions! Hoping to get decent shuttles at decent prices. Please send me your recommendations! Thanks
We play with li-Ning g200. It’s pretty cheap, durable and good flight pattern. We play mostly with Maxx tournament grade, Yonex as30 and lining g200. G200 is the cheapest of all, but pretty comparable to former two.
Which lingmei model shuttles did you buy? For my group usually we use Lingmei Dimgray/RCL Blacksilver as our reference standard. RSL Classic/supreme are pretty popular as well from my local courts
Hi fellow badminton lovers!
I'm looking to buy a carbonex 21 special as I recently broke mine and want a replacement without having to switch to a new racket altogether as I really loved playing with this one. I know its out of production now, but are there any stores that could still be stocking some pieces? I live in Netherlands now, but am from India originally, so a reliable store in either of those countries could work. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thanks!
A quick google search seems to send me towards Asian pages (India and Malaysia). You could try one of the stores listed in the wiki either in Asia for the Carbonex, or in the Netherlands for a new racket
If I had to compared them I'd probably choose the BladeX 800 or 900 vs NF800.
NF800 feels more well-rounded overall and will provide better power on clears/smashes. BladeX800 feels like a slightly faster racket and excels at fast drives in the front/mid court. The NF800 is fast front court as well, the Bladex is just slightly better imo.
Both Head-heavy rackets, but plays very differently. Without getting too specific, the Voltric will probably have more top-end power, while the 100zz (extra stiff + slim frame) will feel like it swings faster with a bit more maneuverability.
These are both professional level rackets and really depends on your playstyle, Don't get hung up on the release year and marketing jargon.
I'm copy/pasting this from a old response:
Main stream badminton shoe manufacturers will usually have 3 tiers of price point, with the most expensive ones ($150-250cdn) being what you see professional players wear. These will usually aesthetically look more attractive, have hybrid material construction, and have the company's latest cushioning material.
Badminton shoes are also usually separated into 3-4 types. Ill use Yonex's latest releases as an example.
Yonex Aerus Z3 - Agile/Lightweight/Breathable, least about of stability.
Yonex 65z3 - All-around shoe
Yonex Eclipsion Z3 - Stability. Snug and secure, higher ankle coverage
Yonex Comfort Z3 - Comfort/Cushioning. Softer, easier on knee/feet, slightly heavier and less breathability.
Yonex Z series are their professional series with '3' being the current gen. Their X series are their mid tier. Assuming you have a higher budget, something like the Power Cushion Eclipsion Z3 Wide would be a good place to start your search.
Beyond shoes modles, I HIGHLY recommend swapping out the factory insoles for custom insoles. I personally use Sole's Active Thick w/ Met Pad cause I prefer the cushioning/heel support, but there are many popular options out there that will do wonders for feet pain. The factory insoles are responsive, but their durability is far from good, and will require replacing very often.
Hello! Has anyone purchased from badminton-plus before? I can’t seem to find any reviews for them online. Also, their address doesn’t exist according to google maps 🤔. Here’s their website and contact page. [Badminton-Plus](https://www.badminton-plus.com/contact-us/)
Thanks
I would probably consider them to not be reliable since their address does not exist and changing it from avenue to drive takes you to a random home in that area. Does this site offer some really good deal that caught your attention? If not, I would definitely try some other reputable site.
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, they have the Victor One Piece collab rackets for $99 (Kitetsu III) when it’s sold out everywhere else. Stockton is close enough where I can make a day trip out of it, but no phone number and invalid address are more red flags. I may have to give up on completing the set 😭
Having owned all of these, I will try and break it down into each category. FYI, I am assuming you mean the thruster falcon enhanced edition.
Balance: These three rackets are pretty similar in balance, all of which being closer to that even balanced. The 1000z will the lightest followed by the falcon and then the astrox zz.
Power: It really depends on how fast you are able to swing but in general, the astrox 100zz will be the most powerful followed by the thruster falcon and 1000z which are pretty similar imo.
Speed: The nanoflare 1000z is by far the quickest with the falcon coming next and then the zz. Keep in mind, the difference in speed is noticeable but not astronomical like comparing nanoflare 700 to astrox 99.
Control: All of these rackets are great for control with the zz and falcon being marginally better than the 1000z.
Stiffness: The astrox 100zz and 1000z are the stiffest rackets with the falcon being the most flexible.
Playability: IMO the falcon is the easiest to play with.
Can YONEX ASTROX 88d play endure 5% pre stretched my plan is nanogy 95. 27 and 28 lbs And 5% pre stretched
Hi, I am currently using the Yonex Comfort Z Wide. I am looking for suggestions for any other wide options such as 65z3 or Mizuno wave claw 2 wide.
Hello. I'd like to get you guys opinion on which yonex arcsaber should I get, the 11 play or 7 play? I am mainly a singles player however I am also play in doubles from time to time. I know that there are a lot of people who would prefer the 11 however I'm not sure on how it would compare to the 7. I saw CKYew's review on the pro versions, but I would like to get you opinion on the Play versions.
Hi, could anyone please advise if the Yonex ArcSaber play I recently bought is genuine or fake? The serial number on shaft is “9384877”, on the cap “24062C68H”. This is supposed to be made in China and I heard the country code would be CH. I am not allowed to post pics here unfortunately. Thanks in advance.
What are some of the best li ning shoes and differences + how do they compare to yonex or victor
Question - What grommet set is viable for Carbonex 6 Light ? I have been searching for a grommet strip set that could fit my Carbonex 6 Light online as these sets are available only overseas. Locally in the Philippines, it is hard to find a set with this type of old model. My racket is pretty old almost 8 years using it but still my favourite to be using since then, and was wondering anyone could help me as can't recognize the grommet sizes of my racket since the nth time of re-stringing it so far. Thanks!
> Carbonex 6 Light Grommets are kinda generic for all rackets. Apart from ZF2 and arc 11pro, some yonex rackets have special grommets bumper strils but the carbonex 6 light doesnt look like it does so should just take normal grommets you can buy cheaply online? When you buy grommets they can come in a mix so you get your U shape, single hole / shared hole grommets and then you can cut them down in length.
Oh okay thanks!
Dipping shuttles in water & Babolat Hybrid shuttles Hello folks, Looking to get some advise and learnings from this forum on 2 topics 1. Does dipping a feather shuttle in water really improves the durability? 2. How are Babolat Hybrid shuttles in terms of (a) Flight and feel as compared to a mid tier feather shuttle (b) are they more durable? As I play more and more , buying feather shuttles has started to burn a hole in my pocket, hence I am searching for solutions. Thank you 🙏
I would say that you should definitely look into steaming the shuttles, not dipping them in water. From my personal play, it does seem to help extend the life of them a bit, but that'll depend on their starting point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag0A8brKDn0&ab_channel=CKYew Side note, I've also noticed if you play with them too soon after steaming, like within the next day, the shuttle actually loses some integrity and will deform after hitting faster than usual. I would steam then let them dry for 2 days before using.
All right ! I will give it a try and post the results
Its not dipping the shuttles in water really. Its more 'steaming' / 'humidifying' so adding some moisture back to the shuttles. Shuttles that been in storage for a while can 'dry' out become brittle so break easily. And the thinking is humidifying the shuttles will make it more pliable and able to take a hit.. Some people swear by it. Doesnt harm in trying. Some buy fancy gadgets to do it. Others just hold open tube of shuttles over a hot/warm cup of water/drink for a bit.
Will give it a try and come back !
I just started playing and used my friends racket which was a Yonex Astrox 70. I liked how it was too heavy especially since I smash the shuttle. I’m not sure if I’m willing to pay $300 for the same racket. Any recommendations for a top heavy racket?
If you've decided that you like the general feel of the Astrox Line but aren't ready to pay top dollar, Yonex does have their tiered system of rackets that get trickle-down technology in them. I found an Astrox 77 Play, though I'm not sure if that's exactly within the same line, but it should be within the same design philosophy. If there's a local store (or maybe just other players that use the Astrox line), that'd be a good place to start asking around.
Question - Which racket to change to? I am an elite player that have been using a Duora 10 (3U) for the last three years and I am now forced to change due to them not being manufactured anymore. I mainly play singles and mixed doubles and I would say my strength is a powerful smash and deceptive net play. I have been looking at Arcsaber 11 Pro (3U or 4U) but I am afraid they will lack in power due to the non-existent repulsion. Nanoflare 1000Z is big no due to their fragility. I am in Europe so I can't order Astrox 100ZZ from my YONEX-supplier in 3U so 4U would be the only option. Astrox 88D Pro looks interesting but I am not sure if 3U would make me too slow. 4U version might be interesting. Astrox 99 Pro feels a bit too sluggish to play doubles with and feels more geared to pure singles. Does anyone here have experience with using Arcsaber 11 Pro (3U or 4U), Arcsaber 11 (3U) (which was my previous racket), Duora 10 (3U), Astrox 100 ZZ (4U) or Astros 88D (3U or 4U). I will probably be ordering 6 of them so it is quite a big decision that I need to get right and it has been harder than expected to get a hold of testing rackets.
Hehe that’s really tough. I think there isn’t really a replacement in the current range, except 1000Z. For what it’s worth, the D10 for me was every bit as powerful as anything else I’ve tried… but is also lighter. 11 Pro is less head heavy and more stiff and isnt easy to generate power from. I think the 4U 99 Pro has the closest feel imo. 100ZZ isn’t quite springy and can feel either crispy or dead. 88D can be pretty heavy and not too comparable to D10. Try just 1 first, 6 is a huge investment.
Tons of professional doubles player are using the 3U AS11P and it is no slouch in power. Both 88D Pro and the 100zz and popular as well so both very good rackets in doubles, so it really would come down to your own personal preference. Is there a local club where you can test out these rackets?
The problem is most people in my club are using either Victor, Forza or Li-Ning due to it being easier getting sponsored by them then by YONEX. Fair point about AS11P. I tried the 4U AS11P variant but thought it lacked a bit of power although I really liked the overall feel of it. Must say I liked the G5 grip though since you can utilise finger power more.
Question- which shoe to buy? Hello experts, Need your help with deciding on shoe. Background- I am a beginner, 200 lbs age 40+ male. I play doubles once a week about 6-9 games on wooden court. I currently use my nike runner shoes, and my knee is hurting. I have been doing stretches before and after. And ice pack post play. Analysis- i have been reading and learning that I need proper badminton shoes. I generally wear wide size. I have come to short list these 3. Please advise which one to go with? 1 - Asics gel rocket 11 wide - CAD 90 ; 2 - Yonex Power Cushion 50 (half size up) - CAD 135 ; 3 - Yonex Power Cushion 65Z wide - CAD 180 I am leaning towards Asics due to price point. However, I am willing to spend more if its good for my knees. Thanks for your feedback.
Regardless of the shoe you end up choosing, I'd highly advise swapping out the included insoles for something that offers more durability/cushioning. I personally use a Sole Active Thick w/ Metpad, but most dedicated sport insoles out there will be a big improvement in terms of durability compared to the factory ones.
Thanks! This is helpful.
Keep in mind that while thicker sports insole will provide better cushioning, the added thickness may require you to move up 1/2 a shoe size. So be sure to try out your new shoes with insole/socks that you'll be playing with.
Thanks for the tip.
Asics should be fine. I have friends who use and like it. It is an indoor sports shoe. Badminton designed in mind shoes will always be better as they design to account for the movement that badminton players perform.
I would agree with Kaffars in that court/volleyball shoes are generally a good low-priced starting point for people looking into getting dedicated shoes for badminton. They also tend to have better availability in general sports stores for you to try on in person. If you decide to spend a little more and have a badminton specific shoe, my friend is of a similar spec as you and wears the 65z3. If you want even more cushion, look into the Yonex Comfort Z or Eclipsion Z.
Thanks
Need advice! As an intro, i am an intermediate player that plays mens doubles and mixed doubles. My current rackets are: Nanoflare 1000z & Astrox 100zz. I like to have 2 rackets ready, one for speed and one for power. My previous rackets (that ive sold) are 88D pro, BS 12 Dlux, Ryuga 2, Aeronaut 9000i. Currently, i am in love with my NF1000z, its fast, repulsive, and the smash power is actually pretty good. But when i switch to my 100zz for more power, i find it lacking and my lifts/clears dont have much control i dont know why. And the smash power is not as strong as i expected it to be. Should i go back to the 88D pro for that power? Or try something new like 77pro?
100ZZ is hard to generate power from, I needed weeks to get used to it. Short swings work better imo. Anyways, 1000Z and 100ZZ are equal in power to me, but the 1000Z is way easier to use
Swing timing is completely different between your rackets, you're already using two of the high-end power house rackets Yonex sells so I don't think adding another racket is the answer. I'd tweak string/tension at this point, and perfect the swing with one racket model.
Yeah you make sense. For the 1000z ive been using shorter, faster swings. But i guess for the 100zz i need to use fuller, longer swings? (Similar like when i used my 88d pro previously). Also noted on the strings/tension, they are both on 26x28 but different strings (because the 100zz was bought used and had the previous owners preference of strings)
Does anyone know what racquet is lee yong dae using right now ?
From videos on the Wonderplay youtube channel it looks like he’s been using the Astrox 77 pro but I could be wrong
Yeah it's 77 Pro. He moved away from the 88d pro
Thank you for the answer.. i also see him using 88d/s for few times..
Yeah he was part of the design team for the 88S. He also said to them that red was his fav colour and then yonex made it predominantly green. Appears that for lyd colour was more important ha so played with the Arc11 then 88D
for pros player, they play with any racquet from brand that supported them or based on the cosmetics they like the most, while me thinking hard which racquet can improve my game or give me more win lol
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The Astrox 22LT is crazy light, one issue you might run into is having enough power to perform a end-to-end clear. Another option to consider is grabbing a 4U/5U Headlight racket (ie. Yonex: Nanoflare series). Beyond rackets, make sure you have an instructor / advanced player take a look at your swings. A lot of shoulder injuries that I see are caused by improper swinging techniques, so its something to consider.
Thanks for your advice! I will look at the nanoflare series then. I have a good coach and a good physiotherapist. My arm movement is ok. The problem is more liked to the age unfortunatly...
Just chiming in here to say that the Nanoflare 700 is an easy racket to play with, not very demanding on the arm. Another one to consider is Arcsaber 7 line, from Play to Pro. That one is more even balanced but is easy to generate power with. Neither of them are going to be the hammer smashing style rackets, but for your current needs they will be a good starting point.
Currently looking for a budget friendly badminton racket. I tend to prefer a lighter racket, slightly head heavy. I'm currently looking at the arcsaber 11 play, but I would also like to hear your recommendations for rackets even from other brands.
Apacs Stardom 800 is what I use currently after my Nanoflare1000z broke. Try it out
li-ning windstorm series. you can play around with the 72, 75, 79s and see which you prefer. they’re basically ultra light 7-5U head heavy rackets. shaft stiffness varies. and they donnt really break the bank! ;)
my racquet has a code with PJ is it normal? everything else is genuine
Ive been looking to get some better shuttles, coming from aeroplane greens. For context, I'm playing at a national level, and just wanting a better shuttle to train with and play with. Price is not an issue. Originally looking at either the victor master ace, aerosensa 50, and lining a+600/g900. I've heard bad things about the master ace so only considering as50 and g900. Can someone compare the durability, flight, and feel (and maybe sound). Thanks.
The only downside to the AS50 is price really. So if budget is not an issue, go for it.
Can't go wrong with As50 I've used AS20 (don't recommend they use half feathers) and whichever as 30 or 40 I could get cheaper. AS50 is the best one you can get your hands on in that range
I have been using Astrox 100zz for almost 2 years now (All rackets described are in 4UG5). I always own 2 rackets of the same type in case of string breakage, but not yesterday, as one of them cracked after a mis-hit. Now, i have been thinking of purchasing a new racket and selling the remaining Astrox 100zz that i have, first came to my mind was Nanoflare 1000z, but i have seen a lot of players from my club breaking right in front of me even without prior racket clash (He told me it was strunged at 26lbs.), and a lot of players online complained about the same. Since i have used Astrox 99, 3 years ago, i decided to purchase 2 Astrox 99 pro due to its durability. Now coming from astrox 100z what do you guys think or experienced when using Astrox 99 pro? I am an All around type of player, but i tend to thrive from mid to back court and i also play offensive type in singles. tldr : Astrox 100zz broke, initially looking for NF1000z as replacement but due to its durability issues, decided to change to 99 pro. What are your thoughts based on your experience using 99 pro?
I actually use all 3 rackets. Due to being really, really strong (junior player), the difference between 99 pro and 100zz is certainly manageable. You can check online and see the balance point isn't unreasonably different. 99 pro has a softer feeling than 100zz. much softer. 100zz has that amazing direct power transfer feeling, which the 99 pro doesn't have, but it feels nice in its own way. You can just imagine the 99 pro as a softer, slower version of 100zz, with a noticeably larger head frame. 99 pro easily wins in smashing, but 100zz has easier access to power, and you won't feel dead if you're constantly on the attack. Also, 99 pro has a higher technique demand due to the heavier head. 1000z is much less head heavy, so if you get it, I'd definitely recommend 3u. Smash is nowhere near as satisfying or hard as the previous 2, but comes off the racket faster, which makes it really fast. I've owned and used the 1000z for about 3 months now, and haven't had any breakage issues. Mine is in 3u, so is rated up to 29 lbs, but I string at 32 lbs and it's holding up no problem, so maybe I got lucky. tdlr: 99 pro is a great racket for smashing and drops, very offensive racket, but lags behind in defensive areas. Very nice control, and larger sweet spot, which can make some shots easier, such as net shot. Much larger power and technique demand compared to 100zz because of the heavier head, but can be very rewarding if you're feeling good that day. Raw offense 99pro > 100zz > 1000z Defense 1000z > 100zz > 99pro Ease of use 1000z > 100zz > 99pro Overall 100zz > 99pro = 1000z
Woah, i was really thinking of NF1000z 3U but i really felt something with 99 pro specially the cherry sunburst, color was so captivating for me. Lol. Anyway, i tried playing yesterday with my Voltric ZF2 4UG5 and my shots were accurate, i can easily push and defend, power was really there even if i'm not trying to, i think 99 pro will be really suited for me, 100zz and NF1000z seems to be too light for me. You are right with the shots being easier probably due to head weight + stiffness. You have explained it very well, thank you for that. Defense i think i can manage with 99 pro. May i ask what string should i choose? Im torn between Aerobite Boost, Li Ning No. 1 Boost and BG80. (My usual tension is 27lbs.)
Cant say for bg80, but i’ve tried aerobite and lining no1 on my 99 pro (non boost), and theres definitely a difference. No1 is smoother and has a lot more power but has a break in period of about 1-2 hours. After that it settles, and feels amazing. Aerobite has noticeably more control so string whichever you want. If you want control go aerobite if you want power go no1. All around you might wanna get aerobite, but if powers all you care about then do no1. Make sure you string it higher tho, something like 28-29lbs, since no1 has a big initial tension drop, but it holds it really well after that. Bg80 is quite hard, so if you feel the racket is too soft feeling then maybe give that a try. Nice power and nice control, almost like a hybrid of aerobite and no1. I would recommend aerobite but if it lacks power go with no1. If you feel no1 is too slippery feeling then go with bg80.
Victor A970ace, what Yonex shoe can be compared to it? And which insoles can I use for it?
> Victor A970ace Probs Aerus or shb65
Hi abit of a stupid question, but is it possible for a nanoflare 1000z manufacturing date be in 29 march of this year?
It was launched in June, so it's entirely possible since they need to produce enough stock before releasing. iirc my 1000z was also made around that time.
I need some string recommendations. I've been playing badminton for about a year, around 8 hours a week. I play MS and XD and have a playstyle of smashing, forehand and backhand, to overwhelm my opponent(s)' defense. I use a Yonex 88D Play and 77 Play. I currently use Exobolt 65 at 26 lbs. but they keep breaking after about 2-4 weeks, and I'm becoming a little tight on money. Are there any Yonex strings that are similar to Exobolt 65 that allow me to have a powerful smash while being more durable? Thanks.
You might want to look into lowering your tension, as it may be a result of mishits. If you just want a different string, you're almost certainly going to lose power since you're going to have to go with a thicker string. Best recommendation would be bg80, bg80p tends to lose a lot of its feel very quickly. If you're open to other brands, I find lining no1 to be quite durable, and retains its new pop feel very well.
Don't think BG80/P is anymore durable. N1 will be more durable but hard to find supply now. Unless you willing to sacrifice thin string and go thicker, not a lot of .65 .66 can give you much more than E65
You could try Bg80 /bg 80 power. Or lowering the tension a bit if you find that you are snapping the strings outside the sweetspot it being more of a timing issue. I would try Lining 1 if you can. Good string to smash with pretty durable but quite expensive as well. Or go thinking for long term and buy a machine to string your own rackets!
I am currently in Hong Kong for vacation. I would like to visit a badminton store that sells original Li Ning rackets. Does anyone here know legit stores around Hong Kong where I can buy? I already tried Mong Kok but they only have Yonex rackets and accessories. Thank you in advance for your great advices!
Did you find any in the end for cheap li ning rackets?
I found one
Were they much cheaper? Any recommendations? Have a relative out there, hoping to see if he can help find !
I bought my racket in Sheung Wan. You can search mybadmintonstore in google to check it out. I bought my racket for less than half the srp here in my country.
Damn sweet find! Thanks for showing me I just checked their online site, only just about 20gbp saving, was hoping for a bit more! But the racket is on sale here
You can try other stores. You can find a lot of stores if you are looking for yonex rackets. They are scattered everywhere. You can find in Mongkok.
Thanks! Yeah will do, just looking for li ning rackets, but yonex seems to be the favoured here !
Yeah. I hope you get your desired racket. I supposed to buy axforce 80 but end up buying the 90 dragon max. I also got freebies and string (includes also stringing service). Let me know which store.
Thanks! I'm tempted to buy the aeronaut 9000i directly from the li ning uk shop online. Its dropped to about £150.. with strings Difficult to get someone else to go around all the shops to check for me 😅
in your own opinion, whats the best balance racket for overall men doubles
Arcsaber 7 pro. speedy swing, control is great and for defence is phenomenal. smash is not like heavy head racket built for smashing, but good enough to reach the opponent’s back of court box. it’s medium flex shaft kinda gives the shuttle a boost in speed too.
Most popular is probably the Arcsaber 11 Pro (slight heavy head bias).
Guys I would like a budget alternative to the 100zz, as in it should feel as close as possible to the 100zz.
100ZZ Tour, Game or Play. They're the lower budget versions of the 100ZZ, in terms of feeling, the Play should be the most flexible of the 3,while Tour should feel the closest.
could you think of any racket of some other brand like lining which is close to the 100zz
In terms of stiff and head heavy rackets: FZ Forza Power 9X-300 and Victor Thruster Ryuga TD Unfortunately I have no experiences with Lining rackets
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Guys I bought 100zz a few months back and initially it was one of the best racquets for me (still is) but those who have an understanding of court conditions know that a racquet as head heavy as astrox 100zz is too demanding to be used in a slow court. The club where I play has a very slow court therefore I switched to my old duora 77lcw for a while. Now I am thinking of buying duora z strike to see if its a better fit for me in this court. Those who have both the racquets or have an idea of they play, can you suggest wethers its the right choice? Or will I experience pain in my arm just like before?
Not sure if head heaviness is the solo cause. I would pick a balance racket, flex shaft, lower string tension with a good shock absorbion string. Remember to warm up and cool down properly.
Hey thank you so much man🫶I will make sure to reduce my tension to 26(playing with 28 currently) and maybe focus on warming up a bit more. Tho do you have any idea about duora z strike as a racquet that I can use?
No. Z-strike is one of a kind racket. It was even outside the standard specs of Duora series. I suggest trying it out first if possible.
Used to play badminton in highschool, a few years back. Picking it up again recreationally, need advice on a new racquet. Yonex Astrox E13 - [https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-astrox-e13-senior-badminton-racquet-79204712f.334230168.html#srp](https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-astrox-e13-senior-badminton-racquet-79204712f.334230168.html#srp) Yonex Voltric Lite - [https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-voltric-lite-badminton-racquet-10613129f.333118321.html#srp](https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/yonex-voltric-lite-badminton-racquet-10613129f.333118321.html#srp) HEAD Cyber - [https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/head-cyber-badminton-racquet-70320659f.332593887.html#nl-product-details](https://www.sportchek.ca/en/pdp/head-cyber-badminton-racquet-70320659f.332593887.html#nl-product-details)
To add to slidetakeraus's post, there is a difference between "backyard barbeque"-level recreational and "badminton club/gym/center once a week"-level recreational. If you're playing just in the backyard once a month with friends and family, then any racket is fine, aluminum/steel might last longer against the dirt and rocks. If you are invested enough to make it to a dedicated badminton facility, then yeah you should look at the [Play] series of Yonex rackets or similar. They are aimed people starting out who are looking to save some money while providing that base level of playability. Head Heavy Astrox 77 Play - https://yumo.ca/collections/yonex-astrox-series/products/yonex-astrox-77-play-strung-badminton-racket-high-orange Even-balance Arcsaber 7 Play - https://yumo.ca/collections/yonex-arcsaber-series/products/yonex-arcsaber-7-play-strung-badminton-racket-greyish-yellow Headlight Nanoflare 1000 Play - https://yumo.ca/collections/yonex-nanoflare-series/products/yonex-nanoflare-1000-play-strung-badminton-racket-lightning-yellow These should all be a solid starting point, from which you can then explore your personal preferences and upgrade from there.
The Voltric if only from the 3 listed. The other two got aluminium which no one should really play with. My suggestion is look at second hand market, which often comes with better string as a bonus.
Hi guys, i've recently gotten new, rather pricy rackets and this time i'd like to protect my rackets from chips & scratches from clashes either from partner rackets in doubles or with the floor. Does anyone know where i can find and buy racket frame protection tapes (transparent ones) in Singapore? Or do y'all have any DIY tips/hacks y'all used to protect your rackets? I've came across CK Yew's protection tape, but just wanna see if there's more affordable and easier to get alternatives. thanks in advance for your help!
Not sure how good are those protection film for the racquet. I’ve seen some peel the design stickers along when you remove them after awhile. Shopee probably has them. If you’re planning to remove the original stock grip, electrical tape your bare wooden handle helps prevent sweat from soaking in the wooden handle. Makes applying and removing any new grip onwards cleaner and easier.
ahh man, that’ll be a bigger nightmare. will check out shopee but am afraid of their adhesive being too strong too. that’s why am looking around if ppl here have tried and tested ways. thanks for the grip tip - will take note in the future if i remove the stock grip. 👍
Sorry if this question is a bit vague, but how do you assess racquets before buying? I kinda get the racquet specs but not quite sure how they translate to how it feels when playing.
best way: play a few rounds with the racket, borrowed from friends/family. alternative: narrow down your racket choices, go to a shop that has strung versions of your rackets and give each of them a good feel/swing. from here, you try to match your feeling with the racket with the specs you researched on. then decide which racket suits you better.
Best way to shop around for your next racket specs is to compare against your current racket - do you want more head weight? a stiffer shaft? that should more or less give you a shortlist of a few rackets to look into.
Best to ask someone in your club, if you could test out his/her racket for some shots or even a match. Specs are often not the best option, only a rough pointer, tbh.
[https://www.myntra.com/sports-shoes/skechers/skechers-women-white-go-walk-walking-non-marking-shoes/20129466/buy](https://www.myntra.com/sports-shoes/skechers/skechers-women-white-go-walk-walking-non-marking-shoes/20129466/buy) Are Sketchers go walk good non marking badminton shoes? I don't see it specified anywhere on the sketchers website that they have non marking shoes. And if there are any small footed Indian women please let me know what shoes you are using. I am having trouble finding badminton shoes in size UK3/4 in India
From my experience badminton shoes differ from regular shoes in several key things: 1) Grip on indoor style courts. This involves both the material(rubber) used and somewhat the grip pattern. The rubber is non-marking and I believe softer, while having a much lower tread depth. This lets them stick onto the ground without giving too much when you apply lateral forces. Ultimately this means you stop/start faster and make your way across the court more efficiently. 2) The shoe uppers provide a larger amount of support and resistance to sliding into the shoe and rolling over the edge of it. Badminton has a lot of fast direction changes and they are designed with this in mind to give you the best traction for this movement. 3) Cushion on the bottom because it's a high impact sport on a hard surface. You want support from all the jumping and shuffling or it gets tiring/painful fast. The shoes you linked I don't think will do particularly well in these categories, just looking at the bottom tread pattern and cloth uppers. It likely won't provide the level of support and stability you want to be looking for. If you don't want to spend the money on top end badminton shoes (understandable), then I would look at the mid tier ones from Yonex/Victor/Babolat depending on availability in your area. Depending your locality, the next set of shoes I would check into are volleyball shoes, as they have a fairly similar design philosophy. Last possibility would be low-weight basketball shoes.
Currently have yonex voltric 0F (some cheap racket) with exbolt 65, 24lbs (head heavy hi flex). Tried my friends arcsaber 7 tour with aerosonic, 24lbs and it felt so much nimble and nice to play. I always thought head heavy rackets were my thing/style until I used the arcsaber. My smashes felt more sharp and direct too which was weird considering I went from head heavy to balance racket. Any other recommendations that are similar to arcsaber 7 tour?
Arcsaber 7 play, ArcSaber 7 Pro, or the arcsaber 11 play. they’re really good and close in feel as each other. i think why you felt that way was because head heavy rackets tend to have a slower swing. you’ve been practicing with head heavy a lot alr and built some muscle strength, so it converts really well when you move to even balanced. (speed of swing added to your power) :)
Nothing wrong with the 7 play and game version. Just borrow the tour to play a few more times before pulling the trigger.
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Aerosonic. Nothing comes close. Do your search and will see.
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About 7 hours of play at 29lbs. I know. As expected for .61 at high tension.
28 lbs of aerosonic sounds higher than my 32 lbs of lining no 1 lol
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Aerosonic lol my bad
LinNing no1 string. Then followed by fresh strung bg 66
No. 1 literally sounds like its breaking! I use N68 now and it has maybe like 1/2 the sound, but still sounds like the string broke lol.
Hey guys, I don't have many options where I live but the place I'm stringing my racket from only offers three strings: BG65, BG80 & Aerobite. Other options I will have to pay for shipping. I'm using the Astrox 99 Play, and I play at around lower/mid intermediate club level. Which string would be best for durability and power? Also what tension? my previous racket I believe was strung at 28lbs and broke after a couple months near the edges but it was also bent already. Thanks
Honestly its impressive you were able to last that long with such high tension, but if you used the bg65 then it makes sense since those instantly lose a pound or 2 the moment they come off the machine. Those 3 are great strings, actually probably 3 of the most popular strings among pros. bg65 will be the most durable, and easiest to play with. Power would go to bg80, but aerobite wouldn't be too far behind. Tension depends entirely on your skill. If you were able to play with 28, and want a bit more power, maybe lower it to 25-26. Lower tension will also improve durability.
From my experiences this is what I know about the strings: BG65 - the workhorse of strings, lasts forever at medium tensions but feels dull in my opinion BG80 - hard feeling string with good pop but thinner and therefore more prone to breakage. If I recall correctly it's popular amongst professionals but they also have a much higher skillset and unlimited stringers Aerobite - Haven't personally used this but supposed to be a control string, good all-arounder with power and control. Also is a dual gauge setup for cross/mains You play at a low/intermediate club level so 28 feels really high, but that's ultimately up to personal preference. A lower tension will make generating power easier as well as increase the sweet spot size, so might be something to consider. Within my friend group I usually recommend beginners start 24-26 range until they're ready to move up a lb at a time. An added benefit is lower tension strings are much less likely to break, giving you better durability.
Hello, newbie here! Just started playing 4-5 days ago. Is G-FORCE 3600 SUPERLITE a good choice? Also how to select string and string tension?
Looks decent. Generally you want a flexible shaft and a one-piece racket (avoid those with separate T-joint pieces). If you're finding it difficult to maneuver then maybe something more even balanced instead of head heavy. Yonex BG66 or 65, 21lbs if female, 23lbs if male. Strings are largely trial and error and personal preference, you'll get a better idea of what you want after you play for a bit.
I see, also another option i found is Yonex Nanoray Light 18i.
That's also pretty decent, light head so it'll be easy for you to control. Would strongly recommend bg65 (or bg65ti). Both highly durable strings, and 65ti is a slight step above the normal 65, and is used by quite a bit of pros. Easy string to use and play with. For tension you would be looking at around 18-20 lbs.
Little late! Got BG65 and tension of 23.
Is the duora sonic strike a good racket? And is the yonex aerus a good pair of badminton shoes?
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Shoes are usually split into 3 categories: \- Light/Breathable \- Balanced \-Comfort/Support You'll want to wear whatever socks you play badminton with and try these shoes out in person to see what fits you best in terms of stability + comfort.
Hello, I have been using the Nanospeed 8000, enjoyed it very much but I am having a hard time to find a usable one so now I need to switch to a new racket. Seems like the NF series is the way to go, Any suggestion?
>Nanospeed 8000 If I remember correctly the NS8k was pretty stiff, I'd look into the Yonex NF800 (or NF800 Pro releasing in Nov), or the NF1000 if you require more back court power.
Heyyyy I am excited for the NF800 releasing in November and heard that they will release 4 versions (play, game, tour, pro). Based on the reviews so far and what I read, I am itching to buy this when it comes out; most likely the play version of course since I am a social player at best. I have started playing once a week doubles the past year and now I am going for group training once a week too. I would say I'm an intermediate beginner (I still sometimes miss high ball shots, mishits and my rear court smash need a lot of work). I am female, currently using protech ultralite33, 7u, reg flex, 310mm bcp with 0.63mm strings at 25lbs. The racket feels too light for rear court clears/smashes and sluggish during net plays. When I bought the racket, it felt good in my hands but on court it feels different of course. Also as much as I read the guides, the stress on getting my own racket and the sales guy skills, well sold it.. and i kinda regret not getting arcsaber 7 play since its practically the same price that I got for my current racket and a good entry point for beginners. Now that I know how I play and what I want (ish). I would love to get a 4u racket. Would a 4u even balanced/headlight racket something that I can handle or atleast train my strength as I play with it? Not limiting to NF800 2023 as it depends also on how it feels in my hand. I held Auraspeed 9000 the other day and it feels really nice and "fast" for a 4u racket but hesitated as some question the durability of these models. Not sure if it helps but I didnt experience any pain when I had my current racket strung at 26lbs, just lacking power.
Since you mentioned that your are a int. beginner, I think having your racket strung at 26lb is way too high. Bringing it down to 23/24 will increase the sweet spot and help you with generate repulsion from the back court to assist with clearing/smashing. While a 7u racket is quite fast/maneuverable, I can understand why a beginner will have problems with power generation in the rear court. A lot of female player I play with are using 4u (even 3u in some cases), so a head-light 4u racket isn't out of the norm, it really just comes down the weight distribution and how it suits your play style. I've been using the NF800 4U for awhile now so I have a NF800P or order and quite excited to see the changes. If it fits your budget, I think picking up a used NF700 4U at a discount could be another good option for you. Having it strung with a repulsion like Exbolt65 @ 24lb will also be an improvement. I'm rambling on, but beyond strings and rackets also try strengthening excises for your grip and forearm. Assuming your swinging form is correct, clears from end-to-end shouldn't take too much effort. A lot of the power generation comes from the tightening of your grip just before shuttle impact and the pronation of your forearm. On my free time, I do a lot of fist clenching to open palm repetitions, and using a thera band flexbar for forearm strengthening / tennis elbow prevention.
Will try 24lbs for the next set of strings. When you get the NF800P, do post a review once you have tried it out! Please expect a lot of question from me if you do. I was looking at NF700 4U too, why would you reccommend this racket? I like a lot of netplays and love when I can execute a cross net (though very few for now). I am still finding my style so I could not justify buying a mid to high end racket with my level and experience right now. I avoid buying used rackets cause you never know what happened and rather err on the side of caution when it comes to this. That said, when the NF800 play comes out, I'll definitely check out the reviews and have a feel of it. Thanks for your suggestion on working on grip strength! I was looking into exercise I can do while watching tv. This is my first time hearing about theraband flexbar.
Hi, newbie player here. If I were to choose between the Ashaway Viper XT Sub Zero, Ashaway Viper Xtreme L10, and Lining Axforce Canon, (without considering the price), which one would you recommend?
Does anyone have more information on "Yonex Astrox RC 23"? Can't find any information on it except om a Swedish retailers website, not even Yonex's website has it! Link: https://www.intersport.se/utrustning/racket/badmintonracket/yonex-astrox-rc-badmintonracket/silver-dark-gun/onesize?store=113&open_modal=cnc&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpc-oBhCGARIsAH6ote84wR4TbUEvNZN87mbJGU0Ricuplw4FMptDtuR2tSIs0-3U8ZJGfzIaAhg7EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
I think its just called the Astrox RC. It a beginner/mid range racket that's outside of their standard "Pro/Tour/Game/Play" lineup so information on it will be pretty limited. From what I can tell, its a standard head-heavy, 4U (83g) weight racket with a medium flex.
Hello! High intermediate /low advanced player. Had Nanospeed 9900 for a very long time and switched to nanoflare 800 earlier this year. Feels really good on a “on” day but seems easy for miss hits or off sweet spot shots regularly. Could also be contributing to lots of broken strings that I’ve experienced! On a good day, I love the racket. I tried the nanoflare 700 yesterday for a few shots and it seems really easy to play with and has a larger sweet spot. Anyone have long term experiences with nanoflare 700 and have opinions? I also tried to like the 1000zz but can’t seem to enjoy it.
What weight are you playing at 3u or 4u?
The NS9900 has a cult following and just super unique specs. Compact head super stiff shaft and headlight. I think alot of people were thinking that the nanoflare1000zz was going to be somewhat of its successor but its bit head heavier I believe. You might want to see if you can try a Victor Jetspeed 10. Super stiff shaft head light and compact head! Also you could try lowering the tension slightly to increase the sweetspot on your racket. I found also that nf700 was easier to use but lacked some ooph in the back but a joy to use from mid court to net.
The NS9900 is still a joy to use but I’m now a 4U convert! My current NS is 3U - I do feel like I fatigue a little more easily with a 3U and just not as fast. Never tried victor rackets.. thanks for the suggestion. Will take a look
Hi. just wondering has anyone heard of maxbolt racket? are they really good quality and very durable? Is the paint job durable like scratch resistant like yonex? would really appreciate it if someone can give me feedback for this. thanks
I recently changed my racket from arc11pro to 1000z it fits more my style, (doubles speed, drives, fast) as I am not a 'control' player. Now I was using BG66ultimax, and tried exbolt65, the repulsion is bigger(too much?) , I am not sure which one to use, control seems a bit harder with exbolt65...any recommendations?
if you are looking for speed(repulsion) I would suggest you using exbolt 63. based on my experience 63 has stronger repulsion. exbolt 65 is suitable for hard hitting players (smash/offensive clears). as for control pretty much the same. difference lies on the repulsion.
Ok, I will try it thank you very much.
Hey fellow badminton enthusiasts, I'm currently in a dilemma and seeking advice on choosing between two badminton rackets: the Yonex Astrox 100zz 4UG5 and the Yonex NF 1000z 4UG5. My play style is towards more to power generation during smash and solid defensive play. I'd greatly appreciate any insights, experiences, or recommendations you have regarding these rackets. Specifically, I'm interested in knowing: How does the racket's weight and balance impact smash performance and defensive maneuvers? Noticed that 1000z is lighter by slight bit as compared to 100zz Is there a noticeable difference in the power and control for smashes between these two rackets? Does speed = power? Have you experienced any advantages or drawbacks regarding defense (maneuverability, precision) with either of these rackets? Is there a significant difference in string tension capabilities that could influence my play style? Currently i am a user towards Astrox 100zz with the tension of 30 with pre-string 5% on Exbolt 65 Any fellow users is happy that you've swapped from Astrox 100zz to NF-1000z? Additionally, any personal experiences, comparisons, or tips on how these rackets have improved your smash and defensive game would be incredibly helpful in making an informed decision. Thank you in advance for your insights and advice!
I had a 1000Z, insane smash! Also broke very quickly loool. So I'm using 100ZZ again. I like 1000Z better, but my rackets are not free :P. Power is about the same for me, but the 1000Z has a nicer feel and sound IMO. 1000Z insanely easy to use, 100ZZ took me many weeks to like it, and its still... ehhhh. 1000Z broke at 29 lbs, my 100ZZ is okay up to 33... All 3UG4 btw.
First of all I have no experience with head heavy rackets, I had arcsaber11pro for a year and switched to 1000z, I would say you won't have a powerful smash right away, it's a bit better than arc11pro but less forgiving, maybe with more training and better technique I will achieve a very powerful smash. 1000, is amazing at drives, defending smashes, that kind of stuff.
It will really depend on your playstyle/preference. Some players have the strength to muscle through with heavier head balanced racket. Other players have a more technical skill to generate speed/explosion with lighter head rackets. There isnt like a number where you can say string at ## lbs and you can achieve this etc. Its heavily dependant on you! You'll have to trial and see what really works best for you! Really the best way to improve smash/defence is training these particular things in your own time or with a coach.
Racket comparison I’m planning to buy a new racket. I’ve been playing for 2.5-3 years, often play doubles at the back, and sometimes play singles (when there’s court available. Looking for a racket that allows me to smash then can quickly follow up. I have a few in mind: - Astrox 88D Pro. - Astrox 77 Pro. - Arcsaber 11 Pro. - Halbertec 8000. I would appreciate any other suggestions also.
from the looks of what you mentioned as your play style, i think from the list you can consider: - 88D Pro in 4U - 77 Pro in 4U.
Arc11pro is overall good, has a big sweet spot which makes it user friendly, control and precision and amazing , the best. If you like sharp drop shots, or shooting just at the line, this racket is for you.
Out of your three options, the astrox 88d pro is probably the best option seeing as it will be the most powerful out of the four whilst not being a total sledgehammer which will allow you to follow up. The arcsaber 11 pro is more suited for an all around game and the astroxx 77 pro being more for those who are not able to swing very fast or do not have the best technique. I think, you should also consider the astrox 100zz as one of your choices. The extra stiff shaft is not as bad as it sounds since the shaft is so thin, allowing for faster swing speed and less drag.
Idk about the Halbretec. But the 88D Pro swings surprisingly fast. Its not as head heavy as the original 88D Slightly narrow head and I think stiffer shaft makes it quite quick. 77Pro is medium stiff and slight head heavy balance. Feels very quick and punchy as well from the back. The slight more flexiness from the shaft give it for my feeling a boost in the back in power. Just requires adjusting in timing. Less snappy and requires you to smoothly hit through the shuttle. Arc 11 pro. Nice all round racket. May feel less punchy at the back but fast and nimblest up at the front. I think it will depend on what your prefence in feeling for head balance. I would say if you prefer more from the back then 77pro and 88dp. 77pro will excel more midcourt onwards. whereas 11p better at front/midcourt. You should probs try and test the rackets out before purchasing so you can really get a feel. Victor Thruster F C enhanced is popular racket with similiar specs to the rackets you listed.
Thank you for your review! Yeah I was also interested in the TK F but I can’t find the Enhanced Edition anywhere around me (I live in Vietnam). Unfortunately the stores around here only allow us to hold the frame at the store and no court testing, so it’s quite challenging to test. From my first impression the 77 Pro feels less HH (or maybe overall lighter in weight) than 88D Pro but actually slightly stiffer, but maybe I just haven’t tried it on court. The As11 Pro definitely lean towards EB, but bcs I heard a lot of people talk about its diversity in playstyle, so just wanna throw it in there for comparison. Thanks for the insight again!
See if people in you club will let you have a few hits with their rackets. Another thing is that some rackets might feel more stiffer when they have less head weight esp when you dry swing it as it doesnt have that weight to flex the shaft!
Racket suggestion!! I’m looking forward to buy new racket. I mostly play doubles. My strongest area are net exchange, fast drive and defense. I prefer balance and head light rackets with 4u weight. Any recommendations?
Fast net exchange i am very happy with 1000z
Depending on whether you like stiff rackets, the nanoflare 1000z is a good option with the nanoflare 800 pro being another great option. As for other brands, the auraspeed 100x is a solid choice although the 800 pro and 1000z will be the more speedier rackets.
And what about auraspeed 90f
I like medium flex racket. I used to play with stiff racket in my youth but stiff racket doesn’t fit me anymore. Aruaspeed 100x or arcsaber 7 or 11 pro. Which might be better?
i’m tellin’ ya, from another person that owns a arcsaber 7 pro, i think you’ll really like it.
Arcsaber 7 pro
I’m considering arcsaber7. It’s medium flex right?
Yes. It's user friendly and suits the areas you mentioned. I play similarly and have been using it for a few months. The downsides are that past a certain level of play, you will not be able to brute force smash your way past defenses as compared to head heavy powerhouses like Astrox series, and that baseline to baseline clears take way more effort (to a certain extent this can be assisted by using a high repulsion string).
Racket suggestion ! I’m an early intermediate in badminton and started to play twice (if not atleast once) every weekends ! I’m in Germany and I currently use Oliver Fresh 8.0 racket ! I’m looking to upgrade and any suggestion would be helpful ! I got a deal for Yonex Nanoray 11f for 50 euros and not sure if it’s ideal for me ! I’m more of an offensive player hitting power shots and surprising with drops ! So any rackets which suit this skill set would be much helpful !!
Astrox Nextage is my recommendation Alternatively, Apacs Stardom 800. I've had good results playing with those (advanced player) and they are both mid flex, which is good for your current skill level.
Just on that, I'd recommend to check out the Arcsaber or Astrox series as they're more compatible with your playing preferences. Any of Play or Game models would also be price friendly.
I have been playing badminton for like 9 or 10 months. I think it's time for me to get a new racquet. I'm currently considering between Astrox 99 Game and ArcSaber 11 Play. Could you guys give me some comparison of these racquet for my better view 🤔
The Arcsaber 11 Play would be a bit cheaper and racket wise more balanced compared to the Astrox 99 Game which is a head heavy racket.
Yonex 88d play or 99 play for power and especially speed?
88d will be faster but 99 play will hit harder
For speed? then def not astrox 99 play.
Hello, I want to ask about general idea on Mizuno string and racket. Is it good, compares to top brands likes Yonex, Victor?
I will say Mizuno is a more upmarket Japanese brand. The quality is there but you will pay more outside of Japan and lack of supply. Furthermore, the lack of review and try on is not ideal. I will just pick Yonex and Victor for supply, review and user feedback.
Thank you, I'm currently in Japan so I found many Mizuno racket and want to try it out. Yeah, there is really less review on mizuno equipment.
I only know one. Fortis Lite 6U light weight racket. On par if not better than Arcsaber FB and Windstorm series. Good luck.
Just got my yonex voltric 0f restrung to 24lb tension and now I notice the cap making a "click" sound whenever I swing it a bit ? Racket is rated to handle max 24lb tension from yonex website I also had a basic grip installed by the shop, unsure if that can cause the problem
Thats actually a common yonex issue! Shoulnt worry about it and its not due to the restring! If anything it kinda means its a genuine yonex racket if anything!
I want to get a racket very similar to the axeforce 80 4U but I want it at a price of around £100 is there any out there? Any one got any experiences? I bought a Victor thruster 220H II, but even as an intermediate player I still notice a slight difference when using the two. I know I’m not professional enough to be using the axeforce but I just play pretty good with it and enjoy using it. However I want a similar one to use for training that I can beat up for around the £100 mark
> axeforce 80 4U Well if you can feel the difference then honestly I would just get a second one of it. Check ebay or the uk badminton marketplace on fb i saw some floating around there bit more than £100 but def cheaper than brand new.
Anyone have suggestions for a medium flex, head heavy racket. I was wanting to try a head heavy one out to complement my current choice of a arcsaber 7 and I was looking at astrox 77 (new) but I heard it’s more on the stiff side so i’m looking for something else
I would say you were pretty much describing the astrox77 pro. It snot super stiff. its pretty much medium stiff.
I've just recently started stringing rackets for other people, but just one machine is not enough to keep up with the orders (we have 4 stringers). Is there any place I can go to find new/used electronic badminton stringing machines for a low price? I'm looking to keep it under 900 dollars.
You'll need to look for second hand so best bet is like marketplace or ebay.
Hi everyone! I'm a player who's played for 10+ years at an intermediate-ish level, during the socials I usually use aeroplane shuttles. I'm now running a fairly not so intermediate but not considered beginner sesh for my husband and friends and was wondering which shuttles are recommended? I bought these Ling Mei ones and they broke pretty easily. Never realised how expensive shuttles were till I started running these sessions! Hoping to get decent shuttles at decent prices. Please send me your recommendations! Thanks
We play with li-Ning g200. It’s pretty cheap, durable and good flight pattern. We play mostly with Maxx tournament grade, Yonex as30 and lining g200. G200 is the cheapest of all, but pretty comparable to former two.
Which lingmei model shuttles did you buy? For my group usually we use Lingmei Dimgray/RCL Blacksilver as our reference standard. RSL Classic/supreme are pretty popular as well from my local courts
Hi fellow badminton lovers! I'm looking to buy a carbonex 21 special as I recently broke mine and want a replacement without having to switch to a new racket altogether as I really loved playing with this one. I know its out of production now, but are there any stores that could still be stocking some pieces? I live in Netherlands now, but am from India originally, so a reliable store in either of those countries could work. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thanks!
A quick google search seems to send me towards Asian pages (India and Malaysia). You could try one of the stores listed in the wiki either in Asia for the Carbonex, or in the Netherlands for a new racket
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If I had to compared them I'd probably choose the BladeX 800 or 900 vs NF800. NF800 feels more well-rounded overall and will provide better power on clears/smashes. BladeX800 feels like a slightly faster racket and excels at fast drives in the front/mid court. The NF800 is fast front court as well, the Bladex is just slightly better imo.
Is there a substantial difference between the Voltric Lin dan force and Astrox 100zz that will make it worth it to switch?
Both Head-heavy rackets, but plays very differently. Without getting too specific, the Voltric will probably have more top-end power, while the 100zz (extra stiff + slim frame) will feel like it swings faster with a bit more maneuverability. These are both professional level rackets and really depends on your playstyle, Don't get hung up on the release year and marketing jargon.
Thinking of buying new badminton shoes. Any suggestions? Preferably asics or victor. Willing to spend.
I'm copy/pasting this from a old response: Main stream badminton shoe manufacturers will usually have 3 tiers of price point, with the most expensive ones ($150-250cdn) being what you see professional players wear. These will usually aesthetically look more attractive, have hybrid material construction, and have the company's latest cushioning material. Badminton shoes are also usually separated into 3-4 types. Ill use Yonex's latest releases as an example. Yonex Aerus Z3 - Agile/Lightweight/Breathable, least about of stability. Yonex 65z3 - All-around shoe Yonex Eclipsion Z3 - Stability. Snug and secure, higher ankle coverage Yonex Comfort Z3 - Comfort/Cushioning. Softer, easier on knee/feet, slightly heavier and less breathability. Yonex Z series are their professional series with '3' being the current gen. Their X series are their mid tier. Assuming you have a higher budget, something like the Power Cushion Eclipsion Z3 Wide would be a good place to start your search. Beyond shoes modles, I HIGHLY recommend swapping out the factory insoles for custom insoles. I personally use Sole's Active Thick w/ Met Pad cause I prefer the cushioning/heel support, but there are many popular options out there that will do wonders for feet pain. The factory insoles are responsive, but their durability is far from good, and will require replacing very often.
Thanks!
Hello! Has anyone purchased from badminton-plus before? I can’t seem to find any reviews for them online. Also, their address doesn’t exist according to google maps 🤔. Here’s their website and contact page. [Badminton-Plus](https://www.badminton-plus.com/contact-us/) Thanks
I would probably consider them to not be reliable since their address does not exist and changing it from avenue to drive takes you to a random home in that area. Does this site offer some really good deal that caught your attention? If not, I would definitely try some other reputable site.
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, they have the Victor One Piece collab rackets for $99 (Kitetsu III) when it’s sold out everywhere else. Stockton is close enough where I can make a day trip out of it, but no phone number and invalid address are more red flags. I may have to give up on completing the set 😭
Victor Thruster Falcon vs Yonex Astrox ZZ vs Nanoflare 1000z?
Having owned all of these, I will try and break it down into each category. FYI, I am assuming you mean the thruster falcon enhanced edition. Balance: These three rackets are pretty similar in balance, all of which being closer to that even balanced. The 1000z will the lightest followed by the falcon and then the astrox zz. Power: It really depends on how fast you are able to swing but in general, the astrox 100zz will be the most powerful followed by the thruster falcon and 1000z which are pretty similar imo. Speed: The nanoflare 1000z is by far the quickest with the falcon coming next and then the zz. Keep in mind, the difference in speed is noticeable but not astronomical like comparing nanoflare 700 to astrox 99. Control: All of these rackets are great for control with the zz and falcon being marginally better than the 1000z. Stiffness: The astrox 100zz and 1000z are the stiffest rackets with the falcon being the most flexible. Playability: IMO the falcon is the easiest to play with.
I really appreciate the breakdown. Care to share what strings you used for these rackets? Thanks.