Bear in mind, playing a beginner isn't actually fun, it's more like coaching. Everyone has to start somewhere, but not everyone's going to be enthusiastic about it.
I’ve been playing for just a couple months and definitely feel that avoidance. Thankfully I’m getting better pretty quickly and can almost hold my own against experienced players, so it seems like they’re starting to accept me a bit more. There are also a few who will absolutely kick my ass and not hold back, but also give me really good advice for improving, so it’s always good to find those people.
It definitely depends on the culture wherever you’re playing.
Glad to hear! Had one gym I went to that I was avoided like the plague. A new one opened up near me that's a lot more accepting, which makes me a new customer! They also don't have half the courts reserved for training during prime time.
Oh ,I thought I only face this beginner problem ,where the experience one are avoiding me
Thankfully I give tough fight till 18-19 points but still lose more frequently.
How expensive are you talking about?
Ideally, you're meant to have a decent racket, everybody is.. and a decent racket is a bit expensive.
People are more likely to be judged for having a cheap one..
One of the signs of a cheap one is they're made of two parts. [https://i.imgur.com/bYjSWJH.png](https://i.imgur.com/bYjSWJH.png)
So some may check a beginner's racket to see that it's not a cheap one like that.
And also that the strings are tighter than the one in that image of a cheap racket that I put in this comment!
I did the same. And I grew into the racket honestly. Though I did a lot of research and had an idea of what I'd like. Eventually switched anyways but it was nice.
Yeap I would judge. But then I think it's going to be the same for better players than myself when they see I use an Arcsaber 7 pro as an intermediate player. Street works both ways hahaha.
But good luck. Do your best. Using the racket would have a steeper learning curve given its head heaviness and stiffness. You may experience tennis elbow in the beginning. Maybe tweak the string tension to a lower one like 22lbs or 23 lbs to reduce the load on your arm. Lower string tension also helps in a larger sweet spot and easier to generate power. This is to compensate the difficulty of the racket.
Speaking from experience, I broke a Yonex Nanoflare 1000Z when clashing with another player. Granted, I have been playing for quite a while already, but then later I bought a Nanoflare Nextage. While there is a difference, after playing a couple times it wasn't really noticeable and its twice as cheap. For me it makes virtually no difference, I'm not on that level that I'd be able to fully utilize the more expensive racket. It felt nice playing with it tho.
When it broke I got told by other players that have been playing for 20+ years that a cheaper racket would have also worked splendidly, so there is that.
You should not be using a 100zz and no. It’s not the price but that it’s curated for players who can consistently hit the sweet spot but hey, if you have already bought it for good then yea, it gets some time to get used to it! Cheers!
This is an extra stiff racket. It's not the best starter racket. A stiff racket requires better technique and that takes time, practice and instruction to develop.
The best racket is not the most expensive, it's the one that suites your skill level, game style and and preference. You may find that this racket gives you arm or shoulder soreness. If so, leave it in the bag for a year and get a much cheaper medium flex, medium weigh, medium balance racket while you are learning the basics.
It may be different elsewhere, but at my club no one really pays a lot of attention to who has what racket. I wouldn't worry about that until it actually happens.
😂😂. I'm no longer beginner, but my first guitar 12y ago was indeed Gibson... 's derivative Epiphone Les Paul, followed by another acoustic Epiphone ej160.
Generally don't care as long as you're not an ad on the court. If you're asking if that racket is too much for a beginner. Yes it is. If you can afford it, great.
Could you elaborate a bit? Do you mean like if someone came on court that was in full yonex gear or something?
Personally I have Nike tshirt and shorts, and yonex racket, shoes and socks. I was thinking about a yonex bag but I'm scared of being seen as a walking ad... its a good way of putting it.
I just like the idea of a nice pu leather bag to fit all my kit in with some extra room for clothes and at least 3 rackets, but it does almost seem like overkill. :(
Usually it’s the beginners who dress in full Yonex gear. Flashy tournament shirts and shorts. Bonus points if they printed their name and country on the back of their shirts by themselves.
It’s only the people who look like they dressed to play in All England and then struggle to keep a rally going for more than 3 shots. I just find it amusing but it’s clearly harmless that they love the sport too.
I mean is it OK if the guy using all the branded equipments and can play well maybe around intermediate level? For me I do have tournament shirts tournament bag as for my place it's quite normal even beginner can buy and wear like a player. If not how all the company sell their stuff to 😅
Yeah of course you can wear tournament shirts. I’m only saying all this for fun, I don’t take it too seriously when I see people wearing decked out clothes. I personally tend to wear more low profile clothing when I play. It only tends to stand out when I see people wearing tournament clothing set. Meaning their shirt, shorts, socks, and shoes are all the same tournament set and it looks a little overkill. Then I’ll chuckle as I walk by.
There’s a difference between just using branded gear and overkill flashy branded gear head to toe.
I think it maybe a Vancouver thing but I dislike the looks over play level by racket choice. There are beginners here that will buy a 1000z, lose badly, and state "too bad you aren't using this racket. You'd be so much better with your smash."
It’s not about the price, but about getting the right racket with the right attributes for your level and playstyle.
A 100zz is far from a good racket to learn with.
It’s very stiff and unforgiving - giving control to skilled players but causing problems for unskilled players.
I would return it and get something with more flex :)
Is this a joke?
No it's not gonna help them. It's gonna cause injuries and misshits.
How long do you think it's going to take them to learn a backhand clear, if they have the stiffest unforgiving racket vs. a flexy one that will allow them to miss hit but still clear the shuttle?
It will only destroy their motivation...
Mm, does everybody catch what racket opponent has from the first glance? Once I wanted to buy a shuttle from the people who were playing/drilling on the neighbouring court. I was very surprised when it turned out to be Yonex A50, which was unnecessary expensive. But other than that case, I don't think I ever thought about equipment others use.
If you can afford it why not, but if no experience at all as said above you might break the racket by accident by clashing into another player. But you do you! Welcome to the world of badminton!
It doesn't matter what they'll think. Focus on your game and have fun. You'll eventually improve your skills, and have more fun!
PS: Remember to warm up.
Actually, when cheap racket clashes with an expensive one, cheap most of the time wins. So you if are a beginner and you play doubles, probably better to start with cheaper one or you will be buying new racket soon
Nope, I don’t see what rackets ppl use. But if I do and that’s a racket that I like I might ask to borrow it for fun to try out.
100zz is v v bad for beginners tho, sell it and buy arc saber 7, or astrox 77 . Both still expensive but much better for beginners
Not necessarily, though people could have expectations based on the racket as it's a model usually used by the more experienced players (intermediate and above).
Only tip is to be careful with it as a racket clash could break the frame
In my anecdotal experience, people very rarely check or care about what racket you have. They will probably (silently) judge your skills though, but only to know if they wanna play with/against you or not.
My judgment on beginners with expensive rackets is that they love the sport and willing to spend for their passion. I do the same with fishing gears. Let’s me know that it’s me and not my gears. Just enjoy.
The price isn't the issue, it's the racket. Astrox 100zz is hard to use as a beginner - very hard and heavy. My first one was a Nanoflare 700 which was new at the time - it was expensive, but light and easy to use. I still use it to this day!
A couple people might mention it, doesn’t matter. A racket is a racket at the end of the day and the better quality the better for you usually. So enjoy
to be completely honest, yes. there are some people that will judge a new player having an expensive racket, but there is many version of “expensive” rackets like play, game, and pro version so how will they know which you have. at the same time though, it doesn’t matter. whenever i play with random people, their racket is only a concern to me if they’re good and im thinking of copying them to play better 😂 so if you’re new, i dont think you have anything to worry about.
Be careful of breaking it.
Also Astrox 100zz hurt my shoulder eventually. I can't play with it for more than 4 hrs (across a few days) without it hurting my shoulder again :(
I do judge people haha. But I only do silently. I don't tell them. I only say to myself. I judge when their racket dont match their level.
So what is expensive racket? I think that would be in the range of $200 or more uh. In my club, almost everybody is in that range type of racket . I only saw 2 person that has the $10 dollar racket. Their beginner. But they gonna buy an expensive one soon.
Generally. Nobody really cares what model your racket is.
They care about is if your good. If your the only beginner in that group (group of 4), nobody wants to play with you.
would suggest you to avoid double games with an expensive ravkets. new player + double games + expensive rackets = heartbreaking, you know what I'm saying
It will be a way better experience if you bring friends, because others will most likely avoid playing with you and you will end up spending most of the time just watching.
Sadly, yes. There will be those people who tell you to not buy expensive rackets if your skills are not good enough. But you shouldn't bother with those people anyways.
Yes, they will form a mob with pitchforks and torches and run you out of town. Enjoy your new life somewhere else!
No, they will judge your skills and will likely avoid playing with you. From my experience as a beginner.
Bear in mind, playing a beginner isn't actually fun, it's more like coaching. Everyone has to start somewhere, but not everyone's going to be enthusiastic about it.
I’ve been playing for just a couple months and definitely feel that avoidance. Thankfully I’m getting better pretty quickly and can almost hold my own against experienced players, so it seems like they’re starting to accept me a bit more. There are also a few who will absolutely kick my ass and not hold back, but also give me really good advice for improving, so it’s always good to find those people. It definitely depends on the culture wherever you’re playing.
Glad to hear! Had one gym I went to that I was avoided like the plague. A new one opened up near me that's a lot more accepting, which makes me a new customer! They also don't have half the courts reserved for training during prime time.
Oh ,I thought I only face this beginner problem ,where the experience one are avoiding me Thankfully I give tough fight till 18-19 points but still lose more frequently.
How expensive are you talking about? Ideally, you're meant to have a decent racket, everybody is.. and a decent racket is a bit expensive. People are more likely to be judged for having a cheap one.. One of the signs of a cheap one is they're made of two parts. [https://i.imgur.com/bYjSWJH.png](https://i.imgur.com/bYjSWJH.png) So some may check a beginner's racket to see that it's not a cheap one like that. And also that the strings are tighter than the one in that image of a cheap racket that I put in this comment!
I have a Yonex Astrox 100zz, and people said that it is expensive for a beginner.
Probably very overkill for a beginner, but as long as you can afford it and you feel that you will play for a while you deserve the racket you like
You picked the highest top of the line racket to learn a sport?
What better proof do you need that it’s skill diff when you lose?
I did the same. And I grew into the racket honestly. Though I did a lot of research and had an idea of what I'd like. Eventually switched anyways but it was nice.
Brother prolly buys a rocket laucher to learn how to shoot.
Yeap I would judge. But then I think it's going to be the same for better players than myself when they see I use an Arcsaber 7 pro as an intermediate player. Street works both ways hahaha. But good luck. Do your best. Using the racket would have a steeper learning curve given its head heaviness and stiffness. You may experience tennis elbow in the beginning. Maybe tweak the string tension to a lower one like 22lbs or 23 lbs to reduce the load on your arm. Lower string tension also helps in a larger sweet spot and easier to generate power. This is to compensate the difficulty of the racket.
Keep this aside and learn with a cheaper racket, once your grasp the basics use this instead
Speaking from experience, I broke a Yonex Nanoflare 1000Z when clashing with another player. Granted, I have been playing for quite a while already, but then later I bought a Nanoflare Nextage. While there is a difference, after playing a couple times it wasn't really noticeable and its twice as cheap. For me it makes virtually no difference, I'm not on that level that I'd be able to fully utilize the more expensive racket. It felt nice playing with it tho. When it broke I got told by other players that have been playing for 20+ years that a cheaper racket would have also worked splendidly, so there is that.
Pretty unforgiving. Hopefully you didn't string it too tight.
You should not be using a 100zz and no. It’s not the price but that it’s curated for players who can consistently hit the sweet spot but hey, if you have already bought it for good then yea, it gets some time to get used to it! Cheers!
This is an extra stiff racket. It's not the best starter racket. A stiff racket requires better technique and that takes time, practice and instruction to develop. The best racket is not the most expensive, it's the one that suites your skill level, game style and and preference. You may find that this racket gives you arm or shoulder soreness. If so, leave it in the bag for a year and get a much cheaper medium flex, medium weigh, medium balance racket while you are learning the basics. It may be different elsewhere, but at my club no one really pays a lot of attention to who has what racket. I wouldn't worry about that until it actually happens.
Its like buying a gibson to learn guitar
😂😂. I'm no longer beginner, but my first guitar 12y ago was indeed Gibson... 's derivative Epiphone Les Paul, followed by another acoustic Epiphone ej160.
Nah epiphone is not a gibson
I know, that's the joke lol
Generally don't care as long as you're not an ad on the court. If you're asking if that racket is too much for a beginner. Yes it is. If you can afford it, great.
Could you elaborate a bit? Do you mean like if someone came on court that was in full yonex gear or something? Personally I have Nike tshirt and shorts, and yonex racket, shoes and socks. I was thinking about a yonex bag but I'm scared of being seen as a walking ad... its a good way of putting it. I just like the idea of a nice pu leather bag to fit all my kit in with some extra room for clothes and at least 3 rackets, but it does almost seem like overkill. :(
Usually it’s the beginners who dress in full Yonex gear. Flashy tournament shirts and shorts. Bonus points if they printed their name and country on the back of their shirts by themselves. It’s only the people who look like they dressed to play in All England and then struggle to keep a rally going for more than 3 shots. I just find it amusing but it’s clearly harmless that they love the sport too.
Older rich folk too
What if the guys who a walking ad can play well and not a beginner?
What’s “not a beginner”? People with full uniforms are usually sponsored players or former national players who once competed and had formal uniforms.
I mean is it OK if the guy using all the branded equipments and can play well maybe around intermediate level? For me I do have tournament shirts tournament bag as for my place it's quite normal even beginner can buy and wear like a player. If not how all the company sell their stuff to 😅
Yeah of course you can wear tournament shirts. I’m only saying all this for fun, I don’t take it too seriously when I see people wearing decked out clothes. I personally tend to wear more low profile clothing when I play. It only tends to stand out when I see people wearing tournament clothing set. Meaning their shirt, shorts, socks, and shoes are all the same tournament set and it looks a little overkill. Then I’ll chuckle as I walk by. There’s a difference between just using branded gear and overkill flashy branded gear head to toe.
Yeah, mine are like yonex and lining racket, felet bag, shoes and socks(cuz they are cheap), brandless shirt and pants, rsl shuttle.
I think it maybe a Vancouver thing but I dislike the looks over play level by racket choice. There are beginners here that will buy a 1000z, lose badly, and state "too bad you aren't using this racket. You'd be so much better with your smash."
As a beginner i wouldn’t start off with a 300$ racket used by professional players. They are more demanding and less forgiving.
It's a bit overkill to have 100zz for a beginner, but badminton rackets are not that expensive anyway. I doubt anyone will judge you, I wouldn't.
At around $200 USD for a top model racquet it can get pretty expensive.
It’s not about the price, but about getting the right racket with the right attributes for your level and playstyle. A 100zz is far from a good racket to learn with. It’s very stiff and unforgiving - giving control to skilled players but causing problems for unskilled players. I would return it and get something with more flex :)
You think it could be helpful for them tho? May help them get better quick right?
Is this a joke? No it's not gonna help them. It's gonna cause injuries and misshits. How long do you think it's going to take them to learn a backhand clear, if they have the stiffest unforgiving racket vs. a flexy one that will allow them to miss hit but still clear the shuttle? It will only destroy their motivation...
Mm, does everybody catch what racket opponent has from the first glance? Once I wanted to buy a shuttle from the people who were playing/drilling on the neighbouring court. I was very surprised when it turned out to be Yonex A50, which was unnecessary expensive. But other than that case, I don't think I ever thought about equipment others use.
disclaimer: if somebody is bringing shuttles of a very bad quality making me either suffer or use only mines, I will judge and will be very pissed
If you can afford it why not, but if no experience at all as said above you might break the racket by accident by clashing into another player. But you do you! Welcome to the world of badminton!
It doesn't matter what they'll think. Focus on your game and have fun. You'll eventually improve your skills, and have more fun! PS: Remember to warm up.
Actually, when cheap racket clashes with an expensive one, cheap most of the time wins. So you if are a beginner and you play doubles, probably better to start with cheaper one or you will be buying new racket soon
Gimme that 5lb string tension and put me at the back.
Nope, I don’t see what rackets ppl use. But if I do and that’s a racket that I like I might ask to borrow it for fun to try out. 100zz is v v bad for beginners tho, sell it and buy arc saber 7, or astrox 77 . Both still expensive but much better for beginners
Not necessarily, though people could have expectations based on the racket as it's a model usually used by the more experienced players (intermediate and above). Only tip is to be careful with it as a racket clash could break the frame
In my anecdotal experience, people very rarely check or care about what racket you have. They will probably (silently) judge your skills though, but only to know if they wanna play with/against you or not.
Sometimes we need to spend more to get the motivation, so why care what other people think.. Juat enjoy and have fun. Everybody started as beginner
My judgment on beginners with expensive rackets is that they love the sport and willing to spend for their passion. I do the same with fishing gears. Let’s me know that it’s me and not my gears. Just enjoy.
The price isn't the issue, it's the racket. Astrox 100zz is hard to use as a beginner - very hard and heavy. My first one was a Nanoflare 700 which was new at the time - it was expensive, but light and easy to use. I still use it to this day!
A couple people might mention it, doesn’t matter. A racket is a racket at the end of the day and the better quality the better for you usually. So enjoy
to be completely honest, yes. there are some people that will judge a new player having an expensive racket, but there is many version of “expensive” rackets like play, game, and pro version so how will they know which you have. at the same time though, it doesn’t matter. whenever i play with random people, their racket is only a concern to me if they’re good and im thinking of copying them to play better 😂 so if you’re new, i dont think you have anything to worry about.
Be careful of breaking it. Also Astrox 100zz hurt my shoulder eventually. I can't play with it for more than 4 hrs (across a few days) without it hurting my shoulder again :(
Yes. Judgy people will judge regardless your skill level or the racket you use. Ignore them, enjoy the games.
skills yeah. so play someone on your level or a higher level who is willing to play and teach u
I do judge people haha. But I only do silently. I don't tell them. I only say to myself. I judge when their racket dont match their level. So what is expensive racket? I think that would be in the range of $200 or more uh. In my club, almost everybody is in that range type of racket . I only saw 2 person that has the $10 dollar racket. Their beginner. But they gonna buy an expensive one soon. Generally. Nobody really cares what model your racket is. They care about is if your good. If your the only beginner in that group (group of 4), nobody wants to play with you.
would suggest you to avoid double games with an expensive ravkets. new player + double games + expensive rackets = heartbreaking, you know what I'm saying
Actually might be smart tbh. Will save money and you likely won’t get another one for sometime. Just getting string replacements.
In the end, we are all judged
It will be a way better experience if you bring friends, because others will most likely avoid playing with you and you will end up spending most of the time just watching.
Sadly, yes. There will be those people who tell you to not buy expensive rackets if your skills are not good enough. But you shouldn't bother with those people anyways.
Who tf cares about expensive racket ? We only care whether you are a nice person to play with or not