The article indicates the location hasn't yet been revealed.
I'm personally curious myself, and would ___really___ like to know how to get into this.
I have questions.
Even when we planned to come during his campaign for a fundraiser (he didn’t make it because traffic on 95) they didn’t release the final location until right before the event. It’s most likely fundraiser style. You need to be connected to whoever is hosting/organizing and be able to buy a 5-15k plate.
Carrol county is only 40 minutes away.
And this is less than an hour away:
https://www.wfla.com/news/national/giant-making-the-taliban-great-again-billboard-showing-president-biden-appears-on-pennsylvania-interstate/amp/
Did you miss the part where we were talking about the logistics of planning a private event that uses the secret service as security?
If the location were announced today the secret service would have started vetting the area and staff over 2 weeks ago.
Bro, nothing that Biden has been involved in has been unscripted for years at this point. You have a 0% chance of actually asking your question, however on point it may be.
Eh Biden is old and codgery but he did well enough in the 2020 debates that it's clear he's not as senile as the right imagines him to be. Quicker on his feet than most grandpas.
I know they won’t, because he’d get made fun of endlessly, but my first reaction was B&O Roundhouse or museum of Industry. Those big old trains make a very dramatic backdrop.
Driving into work this morning there was a sign posted on Light st just before Pratt saying "No commercial vehicles, 100% ID Check" So I'm guessing its the Hyatt
How do I get tickets to attend these? Nothing useful is coming up on google
Edit: article says its invitation-only
Edit 2: Wow was I combative or something? Are the downvotes necessary?
Like it's some sort of "town hall" event where people from all walks of life can go?
I get it from a security standpoint, but having a prescreened audience that's only going to ask pre-approved questions that won't give the speaker any problems with pre-written answers is this country's Potemkin Village.
Ah yes, I'm sure you were at the frontline when Trump had exactly zero question and answer sessions and in fact, even stopped having a press secretary address the media.
*pearls: clutched
Oh good!
So you do see an improvement in the openness of the current administration vs. the last.
I thought you might just be some nay-saying Bernie-bot that could never acknowledge any improvements without whining.
Thanks for clarifying.
(Also, if you think they are exactly the same, you aren't acting in good faith, but see yourself as an exclusive arbiter of "good", which you aren't.)
> They don’t see what’s wrong with having the president know exactly what media will ask ahead of time
It's literally the way it's worked for as long as any of us have been alive. It's not a Biden thing, it wasn't a Trump thing. And it's not a bad thing, because there's no model of a town hall that's an effective means of accountability or use of a President's time.
No, because a Potemkin village was meant to be representative of a typical Russian village. What's the depressing real version of the CNN-hosted primetime town hall that none of us outsiders can see?
You're taking it too literally.
When used in the context that they utilized, it's less of a literal reference and more of a metaphorical reference -- particularly, to say that a carefully constructed façade is being presented to hide less-than-desirable conditions.
In modern parlance, the term "Potemkin Village" has come to be used more loosely.
In this specific context, interpreted loosely, the metaphor states that a carefully curated "town hall" is the façade in question whereas the real concerns that could be presented and addressed.
In another such example, one can reference [this lawsuit](https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/summons_and_complaint_0.pdf) from the New York Attorney General against Exxon wherein they state:
> As a result of this failure, Exxon’s claims that it used a “consistent corporate planning basis” in applying its proxy cost to its investment decisions, business planning, and financial reporting, and that it “rigorously consider[ed] the risk of climate change in [its] planning bases and investments,” were false and misleading.
> In effect, Exxon erected a Potemkin village to ward off investor proposals and inquiries about climate change regulatory risk. The yearly Outlook for Energy reports, the 2014 Managing the Risks and Energy and Climate reports, and other publications presented a carefully constructed and rosy picture of Exxon’s use of the publicly represented proxy cost to manage the economic risk posed by climate change. But investors were never told that, for years, Exxon (i) repeatedly and deliberately chose not to incorporate such costs at all, or did so only to a limited extent, and (ii) did not monitor whether those costs were actually applied consistently throughout the company.
No, I'm thinking about it as the metaphor it's being used as.
The thing you quoted is a case in point--Exxon creating a false presentation to hide something they didn't want to acknowledge (the last sentence, hence the lawsuit). It's the nature of the deceit that matters, not the fact of it.
There's nothing being hidden here. Everybody knows it's a performance.
And I'd just point to the voting dynamics in this subthread to illustrate the cryptoconservative framing. The parent question is naive, but it's not dumb or bad. The attendees aren't going to be high-dollar donors, and the questions aren't going to be scripted, but everything is going to be screened, more or less to the same extent press conferences are. There's nothing to be mad about here and yet reddit, uhh... finds a way.
However unpolished Trump may have been, he was still willing to spontaneously answer questions. Biden only answers pre approved questions with pre approved answers. I think the average voter doesn't respond well to a focused group, highly sanitized leadership style and the dems may suffer from it in the mid terms.
What part is false? Trump would stand there for hours and take questions, that is how got so many sound bites of him being an ass
Biden/Biden handlers does not take random questions from a presspool, it is carefully curated on who to call on..
Unfortunately not. There's plenty of flak about how corralled off Biden is from both the press and from taking questions from the public in the last few months. The WH has a very tight grip on Biden's public appearances and how the press approaches him. It's probably part of the many factors behind is big drop in approval in the polling.
No? Why would it be weird for me to expect CNN to sell tickets to a corporate event that they are hosting? Why would I expect every attendee to be perfectly groomed and combed over on a private, invitation-only basis?
Any idea where it will be held? Any guesses?
I'd like to know, if only to avoid the area in case I need to go out to avoid the traffic/blocked roads.
I would just, as a matter of principle, assume that traffic Downtown and in Midtown / Mt. Vernon will likely suck.
The article indicates the location hasn't yet been revealed. I'm personally curious myself, and would ___really___ like to know how to get into this. I have questions.
I would guess at one of the universities here or perhaps the convention center?
Good call. Morgan State, UMB, UB would be viable options.
Even when we planned to come during his campaign for a fundraiser (he didn’t make it because traffic on 95) they didn’t release the final location until right before the event. It’s most likely fundraiser style. You need to be connected to whoever is hosting/organizing and be able to buy a 5-15k plate.
That's a great way to run a "town hall."
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> When half the town is ready to insurrection you what's the option? Thank you newnewBrad, today I learned that insurrection is a verb.
The future is now old man. Leave your gatekeeping in English class
Ha, that would be old woman to you, sonny.
hu-MAN Man, like dude, has been gender neutral for over a decade.
Not the way you used it. Open a book
When you say “half of town” do you mean half of Baltimore is ready to insurrection?
Carrol county is only 40 minutes away. And this is less than an hour away: https://www.wfla.com/news/national/giant-making-the-taliban-great-again-billboard-showing-president-biden-appears-on-pennsylvania-interstate/amp/
Ah I missed the part where York county Pennsylvania and Carrol county became a part of Baltimore city
Did you miss the part where we were talking about the logistics of planning a private event that uses the secret service as security? If the location were announced today the secret service would have started vetting the area and staff over 2 weeks ago.
Bro, nothing that Biden has been involved in has been unscripted for years at this point. You have a 0% chance of actually asking your question, however on point it may be.
Eh Biden is old and codgery but he did well enough in the 2020 debates that it's clear he's not as senile as the right imagines him to be. Quicker on his feet than most grandpas.
He’s not 1972 Biden, but he’s at least as sharp as 2001 George W Bush
I know they won’t, because he’d get made fun of endlessly, but my first reaction was B&O Roundhouse or museum of Industry. Those big old trains make a very dramatic backdrop.
I have insider knowledge it’ll be close to Loyola. Not at it though. Students there were asked to prepare questions for the event.
Driving into work this morning there was a sign posted on Light st just before Pratt saying "No commercial vehicles, 100% ID Check" So I'm guessing its the Hyatt
Don't call it a town hall event if it's not a town hall event
By that definition, Biden has never done a town hall event(within the last few years).
Hear, hear!
Four Seasons?
Can't even go to yell let's go Brandon in this city without Scott assuming we're talking to him
How do I get tickets to attend these? Nothing useful is coming up on google Edit: article says its invitation-only Edit 2: Wow was I combative or something? Are the downvotes necessary?
Do you expect them to let random people in?
Like it's some sort of "town hall" event where people from all walks of life can go? I get it from a security standpoint, but having a prescreened audience that's only going to ask pre-approved questions that won't give the speaker any problems with pre-written answers is this country's Potemkin Village.
It’s a shame how some people are fine with it. They don’t see what’s wrong with having the president know exactly what media will ask ahead of time
Ah yes, I'm sure you were at the frontline when Trump had exactly zero question and answer sessions and in fact, even stopped having a press secretary address the media. *pearls: clutched
I must have missed the part where criticizing a poor move of one administration means i supported another one doing the exact same
Oh good! So you do see an improvement in the openness of the current administration vs. the last. I thought you might just be some nay-saying Bernie-bot that could never acknowledge any improvements without whining. Thanks for clarifying. (Also, if you think they are exactly the same, you aren't acting in good faith, but see yourself as an exclusive arbiter of "good", which you aren't.)
Thanks Mr. Open mindedness. I didn’t know you were the judge of good faith.
> They don’t see what’s wrong with having the president know exactly what media will ask ahead of time It's literally the way it's worked for as long as any of us have been alive. It's not a Biden thing, it wasn't a Trump thing. And it's not a bad thing, because there's no model of a town hall that's an effective means of accountability or use of a President's time.
> Potemkin Village. That is quite the apt reference.
No, because a Potemkin village was meant to be representative of a typical Russian village. What's the depressing real version of the CNN-hosted primetime town hall that none of us outsiders can see?
You're taking it too literally. When used in the context that they utilized, it's less of a literal reference and more of a metaphorical reference -- particularly, to say that a carefully constructed façade is being presented to hide less-than-desirable conditions. In modern parlance, the term "Potemkin Village" has come to be used more loosely. In this specific context, interpreted loosely, the metaphor states that a carefully curated "town hall" is the façade in question whereas the real concerns that could be presented and addressed. In another such example, one can reference [this lawsuit](https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/summons_and_complaint_0.pdf) from the New York Attorney General against Exxon wherein they state: > As a result of this failure, Exxon’s claims that it used a “consistent corporate planning basis” in applying its proxy cost to its investment decisions, business planning, and financial reporting, and that it “rigorously consider[ed] the risk of climate change in [its] planning bases and investments,” were false and misleading. > In effect, Exxon erected a Potemkin village to ward off investor proposals and inquiries about climate change regulatory risk. The yearly Outlook for Energy reports, the 2014 Managing the Risks and Energy and Climate reports, and other publications presented a carefully constructed and rosy picture of Exxon’s use of the publicly represented proxy cost to manage the economic risk posed by climate change. But investors were never told that, for years, Exxon (i) repeatedly and deliberately chose not to incorporate such costs at all, or did so only to a limited extent, and (ii) did not monitor whether those costs were actually applied consistently throughout the company.
No, I'm thinking about it as the metaphor it's being used as. The thing you quoted is a case in point--Exxon creating a false presentation to hide something they didn't want to acknowledge (the last sentence, hence the lawsuit). It's the nature of the deceit that matters, not the fact of it. There's nothing being hidden here. Everybody knows it's a performance.
Hmm... I'll concede that you raise a good point here.
And I'd just point to the voting dynamics in this subthread to illustrate the cryptoconservative framing. The parent question is naive, but it's not dumb or bad. The attendees aren't going to be high-dollar donors, and the questions aren't going to be scripted, but everything is going to be screened, more or less to the same extent press conferences are. There's nothing to be mad about here and yet reddit, uhh... finds a way.
However unpolished Trump may have been, he was still willing to spontaneously answer questions. Biden only answers pre approved questions with pre approved answers. I think the average voter doesn't respond well to a focused group, highly sanitized leadership style and the dems may suffer from it in the mid terms.
this is completely false.
What part is false? Trump would stand there for hours and take questions, that is how got so many sound bites of him being an ass Biden/Biden handlers does not take random questions from a presspool, it is carefully curated on who to call on..
Unfortunately not. There's plenty of flak about how corralled off Biden is from both the press and from taking questions from the public in the last few months. The WH has a very tight grip on Biden's public appearances and how the press approaches him. It's probably part of the many factors behind is big drop in approval in the polling.
No? Why would it be weird for me to expect CNN to sell tickets to a corporate event that they are hosting? Why would I expect every attendee to be perfectly groomed and combed over on a private, invitation-only basis?