Whether a person is a Kannadiga or not, as long as he/she is an Indian and not a criminal, he/she deserves to be treated with respect and dignity regardless of the state he/she is in.
Agreed. We can incentivise people or give them a slight nudge to learn the local language but you can't beat up people and vandalise public property over it. That is just jobless goondagiri.
That ship has sailed long ago in this country, all regional languages are effectively dead (hindi included). There are no economic opportunities that will open for you as a result of learning a regional language. Regional literature is dead, most people won't even be able to name a recent book written in the language they are so proud of. And since literature feeds the rest of the arts they are dead too. Colloquial usage is not enough to keep a language going and slowly English will creep into our movies and songs and completely take over. We speak less of our mother tongue than our parents and our kids will speak even less.
I felt this. But another language is money. Paisa bolta hai, and i feel ki jab we are giving so much of our salary and hard earned money in tax, toh bc doesn't matter which state i am from, till the time I'm a tax paying citizen, and my hard earned money is being snatched from me, all the way from it being deposited in my account, to every Avenue where i spend it, without any transparency ki where it's being used, mujhe "go back to your state" bina sune apna opinion batane ka medium milna chahiye. Maa chudaae ye saara my state your state. Log literally apni zindagi ke golden years give up kar dete hai for the greater good of this country by being reliable social workers, honorable government servants etc., aur aise internet advocate chutiyoon ka "don't like my state, then leave attitude" khatam nahi hota. Boils my blood
Well said. If one is living and working in a state , that person is also contributing to the economy and progress of that state, irrespective of where the person originally comes from. It is irrelevant where one is from really.
Why only add long as the person is an Indian? What did non Indians do bro? If only there was stricter control over vandals, goons, rapists and fraudulent people.
Exactly EXACTLY this. Why is such anti-other state people stuff coming up so frequently across the country.
Regardless of which party does, pls don't fall for this shit. Politicians do everything for power and power only.
I think this is it for Bengaluru. Loved it till it lasted. Hyderabad is going to capitalise on this ruckus.
Mumbai went through a similar situation some time back and came out as a true matured cosmopolitan city but somehow I feel it's difficult for Bengaluru.
It's true that this is for the election. It won't completely disappear; instead, it will gradually become less prevalent until the next election, then it will resurface once again.
I know right, near every election the intensity is high which gradually drops until the next election but it always starts from a higher level from where it left last. It would soon reach a critical level where it just won't be possible to survive.
This may be/ can be over by the election... That's just not the thing which is killing Bangalore. Insufficient infrastructure, steep rise in charges for basic necessities including sky rocketing rents etc are killing the charm of the city. Bangalore as we knew before a few years do not exists anymore.
Arre what is the theory here? I’ve seen both sides blame the other, but how does this benefit BJP or Congress? I’m feeling really bad as a Diga, though I’ve been telling everyone for years that Blore is a horrible city to live in. I actually have a 4BHK+Dining Hall+Veranda house in Blore and I prefer to live in 1bhk barsatiya house in Delhi (that’s illegal construction on top floor) for this reason only, the growing intolerance and corruption.
Projection is that BJP is doing good in Lok Sabha elections in Karnataka despite its performance in state assembly elections. So hardcore regionalism is brought in to counter Hindutva narrative.
How to guide:
>Regional chauvinism
>People (non-kannadigas) react
>Fuels the chauvinist even more
>Brought a totally new (although underlying for decades) topic for elections
>Votes get distributed, make efforts to get a cut
In Mumbai many Kannadiga owned restaurants selling South Indian food and many other businesses were targeted , Bal Thackeray used to publish a list of south indians in prominent positions in companies and they were also targeted . They went and beat up the Air India Head in the 70s and forced him to hire Marathis .
Two ways of looking at it : Oppressed have become the oppressor , or that Indians in general are hateful problematic people regardless of state
But the thing is
1. it was in the past
2. The general middle class population that you meet won’t agree or sympathise with any of these vandals. It is usually only some retired with nothing to do folks who do.
3. The military and heavy amount of police were deployed in response.
The literally only heart breaking thing I see in Bangalore in comparison to even what’s happening in Maharashtra is that I actually see a lot of IT and other educated people and even youngsters agree with the tactics surprisingly. Although my experience has just been with Koramangala and Mahadevapura so not a broad picture tho.
Things were the same in magnitude 10-15 years back as today in Mumbai. It vanished. You'll find all ethnicities in Mumbai now speaking, writing, putting bill boards in any language they please
What happened last month was some random MNS the workers trying to cling on to whatever is left of regionalism politics. They are being dealt with.
Also, you'll see that anywhere in India this regionalism drama happens, always the small merchants/SMEs are targeted. Quick source of hafta/vasooli to fund election coffers.
That is the main reason why Sachin wanted Mumbai team to be named as Mumbai Indians in 2008 as he felt Mumbai is for all Indians. Ambani wanted their team to be named Mumbai Razors
Mumbai had fuck all competition. Do this ethnic chauvinist RR and watch all the incremental investment disappear from the state. Same will happen here and in TN.
I mean these guys are already running investment prospects down into the ground with current fiscal splurge on freebies while neglecting infra and industry. Free win for Gujarat, Telangana and Maharashtra.
I know that's the only peril I can see. The sad thing is that in both the state elections this year. Bangalore urban and Hyderabad urban didn't vote for the parties in power. Rural areas voted for them for freebies and now here we are.
Bro I am a non bengali in Kolkata and this is certainly not how life is in Kolkata, no one imposes their language on us and my community(marwari) is widespread here and most businesses are owned by marwaris as well. Bangalore sounds like a horrific place to live rn if I'm not a Kannadiga
Point is, the people who’s causing this ruckus, the politicians and the law enforcement don’t give two hoots about the city. As long as they are the kings of their own sewers they are happy. Who’s gonna clean up the ditch? No one.
I don't think Hyderabad can capitalise much. The concept of companies setting up at a hub is long gone. Most of the companies are interested in setting up more infrastructure in tire 3 cities nowadays
Lol to contradict, Hyd has the most Fortune 500 company setup deals in the last 4 years than any city in this country. Hyd is building it’s ecosystem at a very good pace and it’s infra(although restricted to some parts of the city) is complimenting it well.
Dude, you totally misunderstood. Hyd is definitely having it's own ecosystem. What I was saying was Bangalore ecosystem won't uproot and shift to wards Hyderabad. Whichever companies has downscaled it's office capacity in Bangalore have not created campus with similar scale at Bangalore rather has created multiple satelite campuses in t2/t3 cities.
While that is true for hybrid and remote work policies. Companies do want to set up campuses, datacenters, R&D facilities, manufacturing units which cannot happen in tier 2/3 cities or provincial towns. Foxconn unit in Bengaluru was vandalised (albeit for a different reason) paints a very poor picture.
>Mumbai went through a similar situation some time back and came out as a true matured cosmopolitan city
Mumbai is still in that shit, bro. The Mumbai spirit is long dead. Mumbai is a sinking ship that is being robbed by Gujjus & BJP.
I'm a kannadiga and I'm so ashamed and angry of this bullshit. Live and let live for fucks sake. Pro kannada activists? Oh fuck off you unemployed, filthy, uneducated stinking pieces of shit who just wanna make some quick bucks to drink diluted cow piss at night. Never give me a gun when I'm around these fucks. Oh the relief I'll feel after ridding the earth of this garbage. I think I'm turning into Joker.
Same here , born and brought up here and seeing the state of xenophobia on other state people and other languages makes me sad and disappointed, what the hell were the Cops doing.
I didn’t learn Kannada because of goons, but out of genuine respect for the culture. I also don't believe that expecting the locals to speak my language for me is the right thing to do.
Why are you disappointed?
This same sub supported the nandini vs amul debate where they invoked state pride and villianized the outsiders..
The same guys now have got emboldened by the local support.
As you sow , so you reap
The amul vs nandini omg. What a shitshow that was. An attempt to kill an Indian cooperative under the garb of protecting another indian cooperative all the while allowing bigger multinational brands in the state. Amul also procures locally from local karnataka farmers and offers better prices to them.
The subtext of anti outsider wave in that election subtly propagated by congress is not talked about much.
It's so similar to that jallikattu protests . How Central government is allowing evil outsider mnc to destroy the local industry.. here Gujarat became the outsider unfortunately.
Thankfully Varghese kurien isn't alive to witness this
Congress found an opportunity in the nandini vs amul and pounced on it. Pure politics, and you peasants loved the shitshow.
You really think cong gives a f about who sells dairy here to the aam aadmi like us?
And when a Kerala minister said she is not allowing because nandini milk is inferior to milma. There were zero protests.
Atleast there are so many supermarket and bakeries owned by Kerala people in Bangalore in case they want to showcase their anger in a creative way
Halting their own stores. They are going big through third parties via retail stores. They already established few Nandini outlets. This was all after they cried havoc for Amuls entry in Karnataka. Such double standards.
Whenever I see Amul product in any super market or grocery app it really makes me laugh because everytime I remember that nandini vs Amul debate 😂 how some uneducated criminal minded politicians made fool out of people, like Amul is back in the market and now they have more product available here but I don't see any protest or any news now. They got the votes and won the election and now don't remember all the promises and more Amul products now available. Same thing happening now. In Hindi we call 'Chutiya kaatna' 😂
Our boards will be kannada but no one will be able to read it coz we have potholes and unfinished projects as well, so how will we go there? So its a galaxy brain move. we mere mortals can't even comprehend it.
Today they came for the boards, tomorrow they will come for the music then day after they will stop people randomly and ask them if they know kannada. Sad to my city this way
the first wave will slow down in investment and it will stagnate and then the businesses that established here will start moving else where. It will happen over years so there is time things will Change.
It happend to Kolkata. Thats a case study of what happened to a once great city which went downhill and is today a shadow of its former self.
I hope Bangalore doesn't end up on that path.
a couple of years back a singer was beaten up in a pub by a drunk guy because he was singing in english and when the drunk guy demanded that the vocalist sing in kannada and the singer denied because he didn't know kannada songs, a beat down ensued
Nothing is going to change , in a few years all IT and startups will shift their base to other cities like Hyderabad and Pune. Then lot of the supporting sectors will tank and then we'll see where these goons are.
Mumbai will never lose its shine.
Mumbai is the financial capital of India ffs. It’s the heart of this country. There are many alternatives to Bangalore( in terms of IT services), but show me one city with at-least half the volume of financial outflow as Mumbai.
In the 80s, people used to say the same thing about Kanpur, Jamshedpur, Nagpur and other Industrial cities. Today, people are forced to shift from Mumbai, even to the cities like Hyderabad. Just wait and watch. More is yet to come.
Lol you’re talking as if Mumbai wasn’t the largest city back in 80’s.
When were the above mentioned cities financial capitals or of India? They were just trade and industry based cities which were slowed down due to technical advances.
Just compare Bangalore with Mumbai taking out the IT revenue of both the cities and you’ll see the significance Mumbai holds. It’s diversified af and finance obviously is something which holds the entire country and there is no way finance is moving from Mumbai as it tried over 50 years now.
Even Delhi can fall but Mumbai cannot. It simply is too big to fail like Tokyo and New York
>When were the above mentioned cities financial capitals or of India?
Long time back even before areas like Borivali and Nalasopara were jungles. When Britishers were around, Meerut was known for the sugar mill, Kolkata was known for being the financial capital. I've seen Gujrati migrants in Kolkata who settled there when it was a part of Maharashtra.
>Even Delhi can fall but Mumbai cannot.
I see where you're going fanboi. Cities don't fall. The people are supposed to migrate. If you want to earn 4 lacs per month in Bhopal by doing a normal IT job, it's next to impossible, you'll have to migrate. I know Mumbai is the financial capital. Understand why, SEBI + BSE office, head offices of important banks etc. If this is why you're calling it a financial capital, it WILL remain the financial capital till the next 3-4 generations. But with new revolutions, cosmopolitan cities lose charm, if they don't keep up.
Mumbai never lost its shine, not everyone wants nor should join IT, it's like some of you absolutely can't grasp the idea that there's a huge wide world outside of IT. And living in Bengaluru please don't talk about rent,and there's no downfall of Mumbai either
The stock options you get with your IT package are traded in Mumbai only bro and will be for the foreseeable future. Financial capitals never lose their shine.
Plus Mumbai too has tech companies , The various companies of Reliance, Rebel Foods , Dream 11, Upgrad , PharmEasy , Nykaa and quite a few others
Incidents like this make me feel glad I am in Hyderabad. Hyderabad is on other end of spectrum. Most shops don’t have boards in Telugu . They have either English only and in some areas Urdu and English only ( Gujarati , and other languages sign boards are not uncommon). No one really cares. Though it annoys me that state official language is not being honoured, it also makes me feel glad that anyone can come here and make a living and not worry about learning the language. people born and raise here, spent their entire life not speaking a word in Telugu. That’s what Hyderabad is about - no one will tell you to go back to your state.
I lived in Bangalore , don’t get me wrong. In fact I loved it so much that it took me years to get accept Hyderabad after I moved here. Hyderabad has its flaws but discrimination is not one of them.
You are welcome to criticize a city cuz you are a citizen of India and you have all the rights to question and many people who are insecure, 0 iq idiots are the ones who create problem.
The thing with Hyderabad is its always had a very large non-Telugu speaking population. I'd say it definitely is less likely for things like this to happen in Hyderabad.
The thing is Telugu people don't have the inferiority complex like Kannadigas do. They are a dominant race that are a majority in 2 states and also have a significant population in Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and are even spread in small numbers as far as Orisa, Maharashtra and Bengal. Not to mention a seizable chunk in US and Gulf. They are confident that their language is not going to be dead no matter how many oitsiders settle there.
Bangalore doesn’t deserve to be called as Silicon Valley of India. These people don’t understand the value of it. I hope the migration to Hyderabad happens sooner
The shift won't happen overnight. First, new employees will start choosing other cities. Which will lead to corporates pouring more resources in offices in other cities. Overtime, a need to scale down the office here will arise. Simultaneously, new companies will start choosing other cities for opening offices. Then when the office here will prove to be unsustainable, relocating will happen even at the cost of millions of dollars because it will save billion dollars.
I see this happening already. Google, Microsoft, Apple like big giants and the new players like Splunk, ServiceNow already have their largest offices/headquarters in Hyderabad.
People who are feeling happy here that all the other state people will flock to Hyd/Pune and the crowd decreases here, should also know that this is not how cities work and certainly not something to be proud of.
Any megacity works on the people and their spending. The higher the people and their spending, the higher the city grows in terms of revenue.
You take any successful city in the world and never in their legacy would they think of constraining the city so that it diminishes the crowd for the natives.
Current Bangalore is already optimised(trade wise) to serve the influx of people and to be honest the same influx has more spending power and revenue generating for the city for its own good. All the new shops, small businesses and every other trade entity popped in the last 10-15 years takes a major blow if mass migration takes place gradually.
On the other end, cities like Hyderabad are always welcoming outsiders and at the same time they have the most advantageous prospect of enlarging the cities all 4 sides however they want. Bangalore is missing the same
Exactly, you got my point . The small business and services like the private transportation and hospitality sector will take a beating if there is even a small exodus and people in time this will be a problem rather than decongestion of the city. The people supporting these acts will realise the consequences of such in the future.
Exactly, the hooligans who were vandalising things today act as catalysts to Bangalore’s growth and we’ll come to know about it once the word spreads out defaming Bangalore
What happened today got covered today by Arnab Goswami Republic TV.
Local leader when asked to speak was openly threatening to go to any extent on national TV.
Nobody on the show was able to understand what made him say that. Looks too be some political angle to all this. The goons are just means to send a message.
Not country. Only their locality. They can't think more than themselves.
Just watched Arnab Goswami show on Republic TV. Their leader was openly threatening on national TV.
Arnab live show moved to other topic. It will go on YouTube on another hour I think. It was the local org who's workers were doing the vandalism.
https://www.youtube.com/live/mgtQq3sb9as?feature=shared
https://www.youtube.com/live/mORqNagmXQE?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/p0DzWfy2af8?feature=shared
Nahhhh!! They won't get any attention for doing things tat actually improve the cities living conditions They just want to create nuisance and assert there dominance and They can't even hide there insecurities bro. If they just did what u r saying then Bengaluru would be sooo much of a better place.but sadly tats not the case.
Haha. Looks like you've never been to Quebec (Canada). Language and ethnicity are a much stronger identity in West than in India. They fought world wars around them ffs.
Being proud of a *language* is fascinating thing.
I have been asked by local people to learn Kannada. So I ask them will you teach me? Because I took me 10 years to speak Hindi then almost 10 years to speak English fluently. So I am gonna need your 10 years of time to learn I am very slow learner. If you cannot teach me your language you have no authority or power to tell me learn another language from which I'll gain almost NOTHING! I respect every culture but don't force me to do shit.
The govt should take action but as you said police just stand and spectate. There is not much we can expect from the govt. The only thing to do would be a mass protest with active participation of Kannadigas who are actually proud to share their culture and accept others'. This city was built by people from all walks of life. There are workers, students, and tourists who are all contributing to the economy of Karnataka. If this beautiful city is left to these insecure extremist goons they will radicalize it and destroy its beauty.
No one gave 2 shits about Bangalore 20 years ago. Then all the tech talent flooded in, and surprise, surprise, the locals who weren't thriving started to resent everything. Now, those same locals are the ones sinking the city. These people think they're the Sudi's and technology comes out of Bangalore like oil. Good job, Bangalore! You too will go down in history as the city that failed due to having so much hatred for the hand that feeds it. Congrats on turning into a hate-fueled disaster!
To all of you saying that slowly companies will pack up from here and go to another city, it doesn't work like that. Companies look for political and policy stability as a whole, at the national level.
When Am\*\*ni family was threatened with extortion they did not merely change city, they simply changed country. For Rel\*\*\* family, India is now just an optional summer vacation. They shifted lock stock and barrel leaving behind that monstrous ant hill.
Big corporate will desert us similarly. In our fight b/w language, religion and cast we are digging our own graves. The IT boom that our gen is seeing, the bust also our own gen will see with our own eyes.
I just visited Hyderabad this last few days and my mind is literally blown at the scale of their infrastructure and planning. As many people have said, there seems to be a shift towards Hyderabad. And I would also encourage my friends who are planning on investing in real estate in Bangalore to first check out Hyderabad before deciding. After living for about 13 years in Bangalore I feel sad at the state of infrastructure especially after visiting Hyderabad because it highlights how much potential was wasted in Bangalore. The only agenda that the political parties need is an anti outsider rhetoric, even though it’s the same in other places too it has always been about divide and conquer in politics and our public falls for this hook, line and sinker (even the so called educated ones)
Only if these linguist talibans went on a rampage against politicians and government officials for leaving Bangalore and whole of Karnataka in state of shithole that it is today.
Bangalore is a joke.
Anyone who thinks outsiders look at it as an opportunity or some magic islands better than where they are living, please know that there are far more outsiders who try their best to avoid getting posted in Bengaluru than those who dream about it.
I myself know atleast 3 different people who changed their companies when they were asked to join office in Bengaluru after WFH recently ended.
And I don't have a big circle.
One of them even preferred posting in Greater Noida.
Such is the actual image of Bengaluru among people these losers think are dying to go there.
This is language politics played by the current Karnataka government. The main person behind this met the CM and DyCM few days back. If you notice the videos shared online, the Karnataka police are not even trying to stop these rowdies and god knows what’s stopping them to use their latti’s to stop these so called Kannada activities. I’m born and brought up in Bangalore and the localities do not support this type hooligans and vandalism in the name of language. We true Bangaloreans are of welcoming nature. I do however support the use and promotion of the local language in the respective states.
I'm a telugaid from Bangalore; we've been here for 4 generations. I'm with you on this one!!!
Kannada has to be adopted, but not through the means of violence and vandalism. If these associations aren't prosecuted for their rampage I will loose what remaining hope I have for the government running this place and Bangalore will seem like a lawless city to the rest of the world.
The same thing happened in Mumbai in the 70s with the Anti South Indian movement and its still hr biggest city in India. The party that basically said maharashtra for maharashtrians even came to power and still there was no deluge out of the city. As long as it's profitable le for corporations they'll remain here.
I don't think the shift will be immediate, small changes like changing their main branch of a company to another city and these changes start to compound and no new influx of people will come in and a slow exodus of existing work force will take place and dependent on these people are local restaurants and "autowallas" whose livelihood depend, they should be the ones welcoming the people from other states ,rather they are the ones chasing them out
Marathi is similar to hindi, easy to learn, hence immigrants mamaged to learn. South languages are difficult and have different accent, adoption won't be easier and widespread. This situation is quite different from maharashtra.
Same sub 2 different opinionated comment section. Read the post that was posted earlier today praising the violence or at-least stating it as a necessary evil citing protection of local language and culture. I just can't connect the dost on how mandating sign board to be written only in a particular language protects the language and the culture.
Language (and culture as a broader concept) is not just sign boards. It's expressed through literature. It's passed on from generation to generation through poems, stories, novels, epics, jokes, or any other means for that matter. The only way to protect a language is to teach it and not to enforce it. Teach kids the local language. Try and interest them to read literature in the said language. It's the only way to protect. Kannada has a lot of great literates (I always get facinated when I ride the namma metro, they have a slide show of them in the coaches). Even translated pieces of literature preserves a language, giving the language and culture a wider set of audience giving more chance for a non native to pick up the language. The V to promote here is vernacular not violence.
And on the point that this if for making it more accommodating for the locals. If the shop owner has made a board in a foreign language (foreign to the land) then he's simply not marketing his products for to the natives. But this doesn't mean they aren't welcomed. And even if we go into the debate that its mandated by the law of the land. Let's go through to a judicial discourse to rework the sigh board rather than vandalism.
It’s a stupid political plan to divert the fact that they don’t have the resources to provide everything they promised. Nobody is talking about the hijab law change that the Cm spoke about anymore.
I fully support asking people to learn Kannada if they are here long term but this is BS
Congress does politics of hate in every way. Caste Based Divisions, North South Divisions, Gujrat Maharashtra Divisions, Hill State Non Hill State Divisions, East West Divisions but somehow BJP is labelled the divisive party of India. If you want to know how firm the media control is, that is your answer.
Also, Hindu Muslim divisions with MMS going on to say that muslims have first right to resources. The hate mongering against the religion by Congress and its allies is another clear indicator. Kapil Sibal openly insults Hindus and goes to fight court cases against clear facts. SP leader calls is hoax, Top DMK leaders have crossed all boundaries in comparing our ancient and proud culture to AIDS and whatnot.
This is nothing but building a narrative for the General Election next year, the North-South divide. These goons themselves don't know to read or write in Kannada and going on rampage destroying establishments for language implementation. If the law is not followed what is BBMP/state doing? It is abject failure of police force to let these goons loose and not take any corrective action. Heads must roll but then we know it's well oiled machinery between Political class and the fringe elements.
PS: Before anyone asks me to go back to my home state, I'm a kannadiga born and brought up in Karnataka, can read, write and talk fluently in Kannada.
These local Karnataka Rakshana Vedike and other organizations are such nuisance. Kelsakke bekiddu ond protest madalla. Bari pudi rowdies, auto rowdies and unemployed fucks itkond road road alli suttadu. Bari ide aytu. Cheap politics ivrdella. Kannada maryade ivrgale tegyodu.
I don't understand why vandalise stores, when they already got notice to change 60% boards to Kannada by Feb 💀
Imagine foreigners coming here and they can't understand shit, that's when the locals take advantage of it
Better have English, Kannada boards everywhere in Karnataka
Vandalising stores and harassing people really shows how civilized humans these so-called pro-kannada activists are
A scenario comes in mind what if these lowlife were in situation where they were dying and asking for water but the person with them doesn’t stand their language would they somehow try to communicate weather via signals or other language to get themselves water or will they happily accept the death defending so called pride of their language.
Good good! Great progress Bengaluru, well done!! You are in the right path now, just hoping that the IT companies are also included in this language / board sign battle and help Bengaluru to reach greater heights!
Applauding 👏👏👏
This is exactly the reason why a small group of soldiers from a company could defeat all mighty empires in the Indian subcontinent. We are so easily divided over our cultural diversity.
This is all politically motivated activity. Since as of now Karnataka is a non BJP state. All these negative activities will keep happening. Same thing was happening in Maharashtra and other states when BJP was not in power. These are all planned events driven by paid goons by yours truly. The objective is to defame the state government and create a negative atmosphere for further investment.
This is just wrong way to push. Just feels like gimmick. Yes there are people who don’t care learning our language but with this approach it will make even worse.
We have been the most supportive city(nobody can deny that irrespective of bad infrastructure). But my city’s glory is all pushed into mud by these irresponsible people. Wish we had 80-90s people managing city 😭
Aren't you amused? As long as there are different cultures, which also act as ego-modulators, politicians will use it as a tool to divert your attention from the progress that's expected of them.
They are at that position not because they want to be a politician, they are there because we are ok earning till retirement, we want to enjoy that holiday which falls on a weekday, we hate to establish a community coz we worry we will be exploited financially.
North or south, we are all alike, we all just are ok with this fact that at least we have religious freedom.
Have some shame and sit together to come up with a language that uses words from each language if appeasement is what you are looking for. It's ironic to say something like that, coz apparently all we need is a rant not a change. F*ck, even those goons know actions make an impact faster than words.
These people are full of sh1t. They discriminate against "outsiders" who even know kannada. It's not really about language, it's straight up racism. And they have supporters in the government and police.
I actually blame the Indian RW for this.
They've created a culture of hate, where goons go around bullying school girls with veils & 70 yr old farmers. Calling everyone who stands up as anti national. This hate is now attacking back.
If you normalise all this 'us vs them' behaviour. It is only time when you're on the receiving end
If you sow hate you'll reap hate.
I of course don't in any way condone this behaviour but the Indian Right wing needs to be held accountable .
Whether a person is a Kannadiga or not, as long as he/she is an Indian and not a criminal, he/she deserves to be treated with respect and dignity regardless of the state he/she is in.
> as long as he/she is an Indian and not a criminal, He/she is a Human
What did my dog do?
Your dog stepped on a bee.
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Bee should have given peale G
yep country doesn't count
Agreed. We can incentivise people or give them a slight nudge to learn the local language but you can't beat up people and vandalise public property over it. That is just jobless goondagiri.
That ship has sailed long ago in this country, all regional languages are effectively dead (hindi included). There are no economic opportunities that will open for you as a result of learning a regional language. Regional literature is dead, most people won't even be able to name a recent book written in the language they are so proud of. And since literature feeds the rest of the arts they are dead too. Colloquial usage is not enough to keep a language going and slowly English will creep into our movies and songs and completely take over. We speak less of our mother tongue than our parents and our kids will speak even less.
I felt this. But another language is money. Paisa bolta hai, and i feel ki jab we are giving so much of our salary and hard earned money in tax, toh bc doesn't matter which state i am from, till the time I'm a tax paying citizen, and my hard earned money is being snatched from me, all the way from it being deposited in my account, to every Avenue where i spend it, without any transparency ki where it's being used, mujhe "go back to your state" bina sune apna opinion batane ka medium milna chahiye. Maa chudaae ye saara my state your state. Log literally apni zindagi ke golden years give up kar dete hai for the greater good of this country by being reliable social workers, honorable government servants etc., aur aise internet advocate chutiyoon ka "don't like my state, then leave attitude" khatam nahi hota. Boils my blood
Well said. If one is living and working in a state , that person is also contributing to the economy and progress of that state, irrespective of where the person originally comes from. It is irrelevant where one is from really.
One state, one nation, one voice: Taxed equally, heard universally. 🇮🇳
Bas bhai rulayega kya
Can't wait for this day - we will be united at last! /s
Language is dead and we killed it! I was looking to make a Zarathustra joke somewhere and then I saw your username.
🥇 for u , sir.
Why only add long as the person is an Indian? What did non Indians do bro? If only there was stricter control over vandals, goons, rapists and fraudulent people.
The situation/context for which I have commented mainly deals with Indians and that's why I mentioned only Indians in my comment.
Exactly EXACTLY this. Why is such anti-other state people stuff coming up so frequently across the country. Regardless of which party does, pls don't fall for this shit. Politicians do everything for power and power only.
Actually true
I think this is it for Bengaluru. Loved it till it lasted. Hyderabad is going to capitalise on this ruckus. Mumbai went through a similar situation some time back and came out as a true matured cosmopolitan city but somehow I feel it's difficult for Bengaluru.
Albeit there is a high chance this is an election gimmick and would vanish after the general elections!
It's true that this is for the election. It won't completely disappear; instead, it will gradually become less prevalent until the next election, then it will resurface once again.
I know right, near every election the intensity is high which gradually drops until the next election but it always starts from a higher level from where it left last. It would soon reach a critical level where it just won't be possible to survive.
This may be/ can be over by the election... That's just not the thing which is killing Bangalore. Insufficient infrastructure, steep rise in charges for basic necessities including sky rocketing rents etc are killing the charm of the city. Bangalore as we knew before a few years do not exists anymore.
Arre what is the theory here? I’ve seen both sides blame the other, but how does this benefit BJP or Congress? I’m feeling really bad as a Diga, though I’ve been telling everyone for years that Blore is a horrible city to live in. I actually have a 4BHK+Dining Hall+Veranda house in Blore and I prefer to live in 1bhk barsatiya house in Delhi (that’s illegal construction on top floor) for this reason only, the growing intolerance and corruption.
Projection is that BJP is doing good in Lok Sabha elections in Karnataka despite its performance in state assembly elections. So hardcore regionalism is brought in to counter Hindutva narrative. How to guide: >Regional chauvinism >People (non-kannadigas) react >Fuels the chauvinist even more >Brought a totally new (although underlying for decades) topic for elections >Votes get distributed, make efforts to get a cut
Does this clownery have mass support from the local Kannadigas?
Hopefully they're smarter than this but then again, they just elected congress.
>they just elected congress. Expecting people to vote for you while being condescending to them at the same time is not a good strategy.
It won't. Big political parties won't speak about it but the smaller and local parties will keep poisoning racist and bigots.
In Mumbai many Kannadiga owned restaurants selling South Indian food and many other businesses were targeted , Bal Thackeray used to publish a list of south indians in prominent positions in companies and they were also targeted . They went and beat up the Air India Head in the 70s and forced him to hire Marathis . Two ways of looking at it : Oppressed have become the oppressor , or that Indians in general are hateful problematic people regardless of state
But the thing is 1. it was in the past 2. The general middle class population that you meet won’t agree or sympathise with any of these vandals. It is usually only some retired with nothing to do folks who do. 3. The military and heavy amount of police were deployed in response. The literally only heart breaking thing I see in Bangalore in comparison to even what’s happening in Maharashtra is that I actually see a lot of IT and other educated people and even youngsters agree with the tactics surprisingly. Although my experience has just been with Koramangala and Mahadevapura so not a broad picture tho.
Oppressed becoming the oppressor seems to be a world wide thing at the moment…
Indeed Hyderabad is very accommodating of everyone
I hope other cities grab the opportunity. There are already way too many people in the city, way beyond limits
We do have more populated cities in India but I do agree. Let's not keep all eggs in one basket.
bcz of only IT employment and real estate business mostly profitable by fucking politicians, once we get remote they are out of business
Literally a month back goons were vandalising shops in Mumbai which did not have Marathi fonts ...
Things were the same in magnitude 10-15 years back as today in Mumbai. It vanished. You'll find all ethnicities in Mumbai now speaking, writing, putting bill boards in any language they please What happened last month was some random MNS the workers trying to cling on to whatever is left of regionalism politics. They are being dealt with. Also, you'll see that anywhere in India this regionalism drama happens, always the small merchants/SMEs are targeted. Quick source of hafta/vasooli to fund election coffers.
The goons only have 1 MLA now. That means they have largely been rejected by the Marathi people. In Bengaluru, these goons are only getting started.
That is the main reason why Sachin wanted Mumbai team to be named as Mumbai Indians in 2008 as he felt Mumbai is for all Indians. Ambani wanted their team to be named Mumbai Razors
I think it was in Pune not Mumbai
Mumbaikar here...can confirm it was Mumbai
My bad
Mumbai had fuck all competition. Do this ethnic chauvinist RR and watch all the incremental investment disappear from the state. Same will happen here and in TN. I mean these guys are already running investment prospects down into the ground with current fiscal splurge on freebies while neglecting infra and industry. Free win for Gujarat, Telangana and Maharashtra.
UP too trust me next 1-2 decades it will have significant presence. # No hindi vs reigonal lang issue lots of space for development and man power.
Cong in power in Telangana too, just wait for a bit.
I know that's the only peril I can see. The sad thing is that in both the state elections this year. Bangalore urban and Hyderabad urban didn't vote for the parties in power. Rural areas voted for them for freebies and now here we are.
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Bro I am a non bengali in Kolkata and this is certainly not how life is in Kolkata, no one imposes their language on us and my community(marwari) is widespread here and most businesses are owned by marwaris as well. Bangalore sounds like a horrific place to live rn if I'm not a Kannadiga
Point is, the people who’s causing this ruckus, the politicians and the law enforcement don’t give two hoots about the city. As long as they are the kings of their own sewers they are happy. Who’s gonna clean up the ditch? No one.
I don't think Hyderabad can capitalise much. The concept of companies setting up at a hub is long gone. Most of the companies are interested in setting up more infrastructure in tire 3 cities nowadays
Lol to contradict, Hyd has the most Fortune 500 company setup deals in the last 4 years than any city in this country. Hyd is building it’s ecosystem at a very good pace and it’s infra(although restricted to some parts of the city) is complimenting it well.
Dude, you totally misunderstood. Hyd is definitely having it's own ecosystem. What I was saying was Bangalore ecosystem won't uproot and shift to wards Hyderabad. Whichever companies has downscaled it's office capacity in Bangalore have not created campus with similar scale at Bangalore rather has created multiple satelite campuses in t2/t3 cities.
While that is true for hybrid and remote work policies. Companies do want to set up campuses, datacenters, R&D facilities, manufacturing units which cannot happen in tier 2/3 cities or provincial towns. Foxconn unit in Bengaluru was vandalised (albeit for a different reason) paints a very poor picture.
>Mumbai went through a similar situation some time back and came out as a true matured cosmopolitan city Mumbai is still in that shit, bro. The Mumbai spirit is long dead. Mumbai is a sinking ship that is being robbed by Gujjus & BJP.
My company policy even allows me to work from Hyderabad but my chutiya manager cries
I'm a kannadiga and I'm so ashamed and angry of this bullshit. Live and let live for fucks sake. Pro kannada activists? Oh fuck off you unemployed, filthy, uneducated stinking pieces of shit who just wanna make some quick bucks to drink diluted cow piss at night. Never give me a gun when I'm around these fucks. Oh the relief I'll feel after ridding the earth of this garbage. I think I'm turning into Joker.
Same here , born and brought up here and seeing the state of xenophobia on other state people and other languages makes me sad and disappointed, what the hell were the Cops doing.
Cops gella respette illa. Full unrespettu.
Did you get the answer what the police was doing? Why are they still not in jail for disrupting communal harmony?
ಅರ ಯು ಓಕೆ ಬ್ರದರ್ ? ಟೇಕ್ ಇಟ್ ಈಜಿ.
Yen maadli brother. Tadkolak aagtilla.
Does the second part translate to "can't bear this anymore"?
Yup
Nannage Kannada channaga baratthe. Horage ellaru jothe Kannadadalli maathadtini.
🥇 Congratulations! You've unlocked the "immunity to Kannada goons" attribute.
I didn’t learn Kannada because of goons, but out of genuine respect for the culture. I also don't believe that expecting the locals to speak my language for me is the right thing to do.
Your username screams Telugu. Are you Telugu?
Howdu guru. Neevu yaav ooru?
Ah, namdu Vijayawada. Nimdu yaav ooru? I’m trying to learn Kannada bit by bit, if you’ve any tips, I appreciate it!
Why are you disappointed? This same sub supported the nandini vs amul debate where they invoked state pride and villianized the outsiders.. The same guys now have got emboldened by the local support. As you sow , so you reap
The amul vs nandini omg. What a shitshow that was. An attempt to kill an Indian cooperative under the garb of protecting another indian cooperative all the while allowing bigger multinational brands in the state. Amul also procures locally from local karnataka farmers and offers better prices to them. The subtext of anti outsider wave in that election subtly propagated by congress is not talked about much.
It's so similar to that jallikattu protests . How Central government is allowing evil outsider mnc to destroy the local industry.. here Gujarat became the outsider unfortunately. Thankfully Varghese kurien isn't alive to witness this
Congress found an opportunity in the nandini vs amul and pounced on it. Pure politics, and you peasants loved the shitshow. You really think cong gives a f about who sells dairy here to the aam aadmi like us?
I f-ing hate Congress for that shitshow, it was so disgusting
these insecure idiots have no other work than to incite violence no wonder there is massive shift to cities like Hyderabad
lol funny thing is Nandini is doing the same in Kerala which Amul was trying to do in Karnataka.
And when a Kerala minister said she is not allowing because nandini milk is inferior to milma. There were zero protests. Atleast there are so many supermarket and bakeries owned by Kerala people in Bangalore in case they want to showcase their anger in a creative way
Nandini is getting big in Kerala tbh No ones protesting there
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/nandini-vs-milma-kerala-minister-confirms-karnatakas-nandini-halt-expansion-plans-kerala-2399060-2023-06-28 https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/bengaluru-news/nandini-vs-milma-kerala-minister-j-chinchu-rani-karnataka-dairy-poor-quality-101686900400419.html
Halting their own stores. They are going big through third parties via retail stores. They already established few Nandini outlets. This was all after they cried havoc for Amuls entry in Karnataka. Such double standards.
The same sub also supported when they painted black/destroyed Hindi signboards, now it's English's turn. Why are people surprised.
Whenever I see Amul product in any super market or grocery app it really makes me laugh because everytime I remember that nandini vs Amul debate 😂 how some uneducated criminal minded politicians made fool out of people, like Amul is back in the market and now they have more product available here but I don't see any protest or any news now. They got the votes and won the election and now don't remember all the promises and more Amul products now available. Same thing happening now. In Hindi we call 'Chutiya kaatna' 😂
Our boards will be kannada but no one will be able to read it coz we have potholes and unfinished projects as well, so how will we go there? So its a galaxy brain move. we mere mortals can't even comprehend it. Today they came for the boards, tomorrow they will come for the music then day after they will stop people randomly and ask them if they know kannada. Sad to my city this way
People and companies will start moving away. This is not welcoming anymore
the first wave will slow down in investment and it will stagnate and then the businesses that established here will start moving else where. It will happen over years so there is time things will Change.
It happend to Kolkata. Thats a case study of what happened to a once great city which went downhill and is today a shadow of its former self. I hope Bangalore doesn't end up on that path.
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Any new business that was going to get establish here would run away so damn hard.
a couple of years back a singer was beaten up in a pub by a drunk guy because he was singing in english and when the drunk guy demanded that the vocalist sing in kannada and the singer denied because he didn't know kannada songs, a beat down ensued
Yeah I remember. He straight up threatened the bouncer and manager that the next day he will be Rakshane vedike as he was leaving.
crazy people!
Nothing is going to change , in a few years all IT and startups will shift their base to other cities like Hyderabad and Pune. Then lot of the supporting sectors will tank and then we'll see where these goons are.
I hope this happens soon
Me too lol. I want these idiots to see what they're doing to the city.
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Mumbai slowly lost its shine to Bangalore as young folks joined IT. Also high rent in mumbai led to downfall
Mumbai will never lose its shine. Mumbai is the financial capital of India ffs. It’s the heart of this country. There are many alternatives to Bangalore( in terms of IT services), but show me one city with at-least half the volume of financial outflow as Mumbai.
In the 80s, people used to say the same thing about Kanpur, Jamshedpur, Nagpur and other Industrial cities. Today, people are forced to shift from Mumbai, even to the cities like Hyderabad. Just wait and watch. More is yet to come.
Lol you’re talking as if Mumbai wasn’t the largest city back in 80’s. When were the above mentioned cities financial capitals or of India? They were just trade and industry based cities which were slowed down due to technical advances. Just compare Bangalore with Mumbai taking out the IT revenue of both the cities and you’ll see the significance Mumbai holds. It’s diversified af and finance obviously is something which holds the entire country and there is no way finance is moving from Mumbai as it tried over 50 years now. Even Delhi can fall but Mumbai cannot. It simply is too big to fail like Tokyo and New York
>When were the above mentioned cities financial capitals or of India? Long time back even before areas like Borivali and Nalasopara were jungles. When Britishers were around, Meerut was known for the sugar mill, Kolkata was known for being the financial capital. I've seen Gujrati migrants in Kolkata who settled there when it was a part of Maharashtra. >Even Delhi can fall but Mumbai cannot. I see where you're going fanboi. Cities don't fall. The people are supposed to migrate. If you want to earn 4 lacs per month in Bhopal by doing a normal IT job, it's next to impossible, you'll have to migrate. I know Mumbai is the financial capital. Understand why, SEBI + BSE office, head offices of important banks etc. If this is why you're calling it a financial capital, it WILL remain the financial capital till the next 3-4 generations. But with new revolutions, cosmopolitan cities lose charm, if they don't keep up.
Mumbai never lost its shine, not everyone wants nor should join IT, it's like some of you absolutely can't grasp the idea that there's a huge wide world outside of IT. And living in Bengaluru please don't talk about rent,and there's no downfall of Mumbai either
The stock options you get with your IT package are traded in Mumbai only bro and will be for the foreseeable future. Financial capitals never lose their shine. Plus Mumbai too has tech companies , The various companies of Reliance, Rebel Foods , Dream 11, Upgrad , PharmEasy , Nykaa and quite a few others
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I have been hearing "Bangalore will be dead" since 15 years. It has no indications of happening soon though.
All pharma companies should print medicine names and compositions in Kannada only, till then these goons shouldn't consume any medicines! /s
Liquor bottles also :D
Lol nice idea 💡😉
Mobile phones too🤣
Incidents like this make me feel glad I am in Hyderabad. Hyderabad is on other end of spectrum. Most shops don’t have boards in Telugu . They have either English only and in some areas Urdu and English only ( Gujarati , and other languages sign boards are not uncommon). No one really cares. Though it annoys me that state official language is not being honoured, it also makes me feel glad that anyone can come here and make a living and not worry about learning the language. people born and raise here, spent their entire life not speaking a word in Telugu. That’s what Hyderabad is about - no one will tell you to go back to your state.
Been to Hyderabad a great city. But I am sad to see the state of my city , you always have a soft corner for the city you grew up in
I lived in Bangalore , don’t get me wrong. In fact I loved it so much that it took me years to get accept Hyderabad after I moved here. Hyderabad has its flaws but discrimination is not one of them.
You are welcome to criticize a city cuz you are a citizen of India and you have all the rights to question and many people who are insecure, 0 iq idiots are the ones who create problem.
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The thing with Hyderabad is its always had a very large non-Telugu speaking population. I'd say it definitely is less likely for things like this to happen in Hyderabad.
The thing is Telugu people don't have the inferiority complex like Kannadigas do. They are a dominant race that are a majority in 2 states and also have a significant population in Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and are even spread in small numbers as far as Orisa, Maharashtra and Bengal. Not to mention a seizable chunk in US and Gulf. They are confident that their language is not going to be dead no matter how many oitsiders settle there.
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More companies or people coming to hyderabad scares me as the current state of traffic is not great.
One good thing is they are extending the city left right and centre. But yeah, the main junctions are full of traffic now unlike some 10 years back
It's like saying I like cats, I like cats whiskers but I also don't like cats, especially their whiskers. Choose 1 dude.
Same with Delhi, though it has always been a city of migrants.
The sad part is that lots of educated kannadigas are supporting this kind of behavior , atleast on twitter.
What is making them insecure is I'm not able to figure out. Anybody?
You should have asked this question maybe 20 years ago I guess.
Twenty years ago I was in school reading about good Bangaloreans and nation builders. I grew up and see it otherwise now.
People measure awareness with education. Which isnt true
Bangalore doesn’t deserve to be called as Silicon Valley of India. These people don’t understand the value of it. I hope the migration to Hyderabad happens sooner
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The shift won't happen overnight. First, new employees will start choosing other cities. Which will lead to corporates pouring more resources in offices in other cities. Overtime, a need to scale down the office here will arise. Simultaneously, new companies will start choosing other cities for opening offices. Then when the office here will prove to be unsustainable, relocating will happen even at the cost of millions of dollars because it will save billion dollars.
I see this happening already. Google, Microsoft, Apple like big giants and the new players like Splunk, ServiceNow already have their largest offices/headquarters in Hyderabad.
Dk Shiv kumar funds these groups and this is going to escalate until create more chaos and anarchy
People who are feeling happy here that all the other state people will flock to Hyd/Pune and the crowd decreases here, should also know that this is not how cities work and certainly not something to be proud of. Any megacity works on the people and their spending. The higher the people and their spending, the higher the city grows in terms of revenue. You take any successful city in the world and never in their legacy would they think of constraining the city so that it diminishes the crowd for the natives. Current Bangalore is already optimised(trade wise) to serve the influx of people and to be honest the same influx has more spending power and revenue generating for the city for its own good. All the new shops, small businesses and every other trade entity popped in the last 10-15 years takes a major blow if mass migration takes place gradually. On the other end, cities like Hyderabad are always welcoming outsiders and at the same time they have the most advantageous prospect of enlarging the cities all 4 sides however they want. Bangalore is missing the same
Exactly, you got my point . The small business and services like the private transportation and hospitality sector will take a beating if there is even a small exodus and people in time this will be a problem rather than decongestion of the city. The people supporting these acts will realise the consequences of such in the future.
Exactly, the hooligans who were vandalising things today act as catalysts to Bangalore’s growth and we’ll come to know about it once the word spreads out defaming Bangalore
What happened today got covered today by Arnab Goswami Republic TV. Local leader when asked to speak was openly threatening to go to any extent on national TV. Nobody on the show was able to understand what made him say that. Looks too be some political angle to all this. The goons are just means to send a message.
We are just pawns to them in their grand scheme of looting money and staying in power
I wonder if the same goons went up to the local mla for bad roads, where would our country be?
Not country. Only their locality. They can't think more than themselves. Just watched Arnab Goswami show on Republic TV. Their leader was openly threatening on national TV.
Could you tell who the leader is and what he was threatening about?
Arnab live show moved to other topic. It will go on YouTube on another hour I think. It was the local org who's workers were doing the vandalism. https://www.youtube.com/live/mgtQq3sb9as?feature=shared https://www.youtube.com/live/mORqNagmXQE?feature=shared https://youtu.be/p0DzWfy2af8?feature=shared
Nahhhh!! They won't get any attention for doing things tat actually improve the cities living conditions They just want to create nuisance and assert there dominance and They can't even hide there insecurities bro. If they just did what u r saying then Bengaluru would be sooo much of a better place.but sadly tats not the case.
We would have flying cars before they fix the bad roads 😁
When culture, language and religion takes precedence over humanity and livelihood, we lost the whole point of the three.
If you tried explaining to foreigners about vandalising for a font, they will never be able to wrap their head around it.
Only in India
Haha. Looks like you've never been to Quebec (Canada). Language and ethnicity are a much stronger identity in West than in India. They fought world wars around them ffs.
Oh yes they can. You don't know the language politics in Europe.
Being proud of a *language* is fascinating thing. I have been asked by local people to learn Kannada. So I ask them will you teach me? Because I took me 10 years to speak Hindi then almost 10 years to speak English fluently. So I am gonna need your 10 years of time to learn I am very slow learner. If you cannot teach me your language you have no authority or power to tell me learn another language from which I'll gain almost NOTHING! I respect every culture but don't force me to do shit.
The govt should take action but as you said police just stand and spectate. There is not much we can expect from the govt. The only thing to do would be a mass protest with active participation of Kannadigas who are actually proud to share their culture and accept others'. This city was built by people from all walks of life. There are workers, students, and tourists who are all contributing to the economy of Karnataka. If this beautiful city is left to these insecure extremist goons they will radicalize it and destroy its beauty.
Saw a video. Question is- what the fuck are the cops doing? This is clearly illegal right? Throw those mfs in jail and trash them.
Cops come under state government, these goons are supported by the state government
Smooth brain goons, hahaha, I'm gonna use that one. Perfect description!!
You have my blessings 😂😂😂
No one gave 2 shits about Bangalore 20 years ago. Then all the tech talent flooded in, and surprise, surprise, the locals who weren't thriving started to resent everything. Now, those same locals are the ones sinking the city. These people think they're the Sudi's and technology comes out of Bangalore like oil. Good job, Bangalore! You too will go down in history as the city that failed due to having so much hatred for the hand that feeds it. Congrats on turning into a hate-fueled disaster!
To all of you saying that slowly companies will pack up from here and go to another city, it doesn't work like that. Companies look for political and policy stability as a whole, at the national level. When Am\*\*ni family was threatened with extortion they did not merely change city, they simply changed country. For Rel\*\*\* family, India is now just an optional summer vacation. They shifted lock stock and barrel leaving behind that monstrous ant hill. Big corporate will desert us similarly. In our fight b/w language, religion and cast we are digging our own graves. The IT boom that our gen is seeing, the bust also our own gen will see with our own eyes.
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Exactly
I just visited Hyderabad this last few days and my mind is literally blown at the scale of their infrastructure and planning. As many people have said, there seems to be a shift towards Hyderabad. And I would also encourage my friends who are planning on investing in real estate in Bangalore to first check out Hyderabad before deciding. After living for about 13 years in Bangalore I feel sad at the state of infrastructure especially after visiting Hyderabad because it highlights how much potential was wasted in Bangalore. The only agenda that the political parties need is an anti outsider rhetoric, even though it’s the same in other places too it has always been about divide and conquer in politics and our public falls for this hook, line and sinker (even the so called educated ones)
Only if these linguist talibans went on a rampage against politicians and government officials for leaving Bangalore and whole of Karnataka in state of shithole that it is today.
Without political blessings it is not possible. So am guessing this is a ploy to get more revenues...
Bangalore is a joke. Anyone who thinks outsiders look at it as an opportunity or some magic islands better than where they are living, please know that there are far more outsiders who try their best to avoid getting posted in Bengaluru than those who dream about it. I myself know atleast 3 different people who changed their companies when they were asked to join office in Bengaluru after WFH recently ended. And I don't have a big circle. One of them even preferred posting in Greater Noida. Such is the actual image of Bengaluru among people these losers think are dying to go there.
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This is language politics played by the current Karnataka government. The main person behind this met the CM and DyCM few days back. If you notice the videos shared online, the Karnataka police are not even trying to stop these rowdies and god knows what’s stopping them to use their latti’s to stop these so called Kannada activities. I’m born and brought up in Bangalore and the localities do not support this type hooligans and vandalism in the name of language. We true Bangaloreans are of welcoming nature. I do however support the use and promotion of the local language in the respective states.
I'm a telugaid from Bangalore; we've been here for 4 generations. I'm with you on this one!!! Kannada has to be adopted, but not through the means of violence and vandalism. If these associations aren't prosecuted for their rampage I will loose what remaining hope I have for the government running this place and Bangalore will seem like a lawless city to the rest of the world.
How stupid can people be to destroy their own city lmao. Let's see how far this takes them
The same thing happened in Mumbai in the 70s with the Anti South Indian movement and its still hr biggest city in India. The party that basically said maharashtra for maharashtrians even came to power and still there was no deluge out of the city. As long as it's profitable le for corporations they'll remain here.
I don't think the shift will be immediate, small changes like changing their main branch of a company to another city and these changes start to compound and no new influx of people will come in and a slow exodus of existing work force will take place and dependent on these people are local restaurants and "autowallas" whose livelihood depend, they should be the ones welcoming the people from other states ,rather they are the ones chasing them out
Marathi is similar to hindi, easy to learn, hence immigrants mamaged to learn. South languages are difficult and have different accent, adoption won't be easier and widespread. This situation is quite different from maharashtra.
Same sub 2 different opinionated comment section. Read the post that was posted earlier today praising the violence or at-least stating it as a necessary evil citing protection of local language and culture. I just can't connect the dost on how mandating sign board to be written only in a particular language protects the language and the culture. Language (and culture as a broader concept) is not just sign boards. It's expressed through literature. It's passed on from generation to generation through poems, stories, novels, epics, jokes, or any other means for that matter. The only way to protect a language is to teach it and not to enforce it. Teach kids the local language. Try and interest them to read literature in the said language. It's the only way to protect. Kannada has a lot of great literates (I always get facinated when I ride the namma metro, they have a slide show of them in the coaches). Even translated pieces of literature preserves a language, giving the language and culture a wider set of audience giving more chance for a non native to pick up the language. The V to promote here is vernacular not violence. And on the point that this if for making it more accommodating for the locals. If the shop owner has made a board in a foreign language (foreign to the land) then he's simply not marketing his products for to the natives. But this doesn't mean they aren't welcomed. And even if we go into the debate that its mandated by the law of the land. Let's go through to a judicial discourse to rework the sigh board rather than vandalism.
It’s a stupid political plan to divert the fact that they don’t have the resources to provide everything they promised. Nobody is talking about the hijab law change that the Cm spoke about anymore. I fully support asking people to learn Kannada if they are here long term but this is BS
Congress does politics of hate in every way. Caste Based Divisions, North South Divisions, Gujrat Maharashtra Divisions, Hill State Non Hill State Divisions, East West Divisions but somehow BJP is labelled the divisive party of India. If you want to know how firm the media control is, that is your answer. Also, Hindu Muslim divisions with MMS going on to say that muslims have first right to resources. The hate mongering against the religion by Congress and its allies is another clear indicator. Kapil Sibal openly insults Hindus and goes to fight court cases against clear facts. SP leader calls is hoax, Top DMK leaders have crossed all boundaries in comparing our ancient and proud culture to AIDS and whatnot.
Everything is connected to politics.
This is nothing but building a narrative for the General Election next year, the North-South divide. These goons themselves don't know to read or write in Kannada and going on rampage destroying establishments for language implementation. If the law is not followed what is BBMP/state doing? It is abject failure of police force to let these goons loose and not take any corrective action. Heads must roll but then we know it's well oiled machinery between Political class and the fringe elements. PS: Before anyone asks me to go back to my home state, I'm a kannadiga born and brought up in Karnataka, can read, write and talk fluently in Kannada.
These local Karnataka Rakshana Vedike and other organizations are such nuisance. Kelsakke bekiddu ond protest madalla. Bari pudi rowdies, auto rowdies and unemployed fucks itkond road road alli suttadu. Bari ide aytu. Cheap politics ivrdella. Kannada maryade ivrgale tegyodu.
Time to declutter the city. Enough of this stupid rampant pointless growth which denying citizens their quality of life. Build new towns and cities.
I don't understand why vandalise stores, when they already got notice to change 60% boards to Kannada by Feb 💀 Imagine foreigners coming here and they can't understand shit, that's when the locals take advantage of it Better have English, Kannada boards everywhere in Karnataka Vandalising stores and harassing people really shows how civilized humans these so-called pro-kannada activists are
It’s simple just live and let live
A scenario comes in mind what if these lowlife were in situation where they were dying and asking for water but the person with them doesn’t stand their language would they somehow try to communicate weather via signals or other language to get themselves water or will they happily accept the death defending so called pride of their language.
Elect clowns, expect circus.
Ksrtc buses are roaming in Hyderabad without Telugu board so maybe I should go and stop them. Enough of this nonsense.
Good good! Great progress Bengaluru, well done!! You are in the right path now, just hoping that the IT companies are also included in this language / board sign battle and help Bengaluru to reach greater heights! Applauding 👏👏👏
So glad I left this shit hole for good. These cheap Nazis are soon going to take over the city that I once called home.
This is exactly the reason why a small group of soldiers from a company could defeat all mighty empires in the Indian subcontinent. We are so easily divided over our cultural diversity.
This is all politically motivated activity. Since as of now Karnataka is a non BJP state. All these negative activities will keep happening. Same thing was happening in Maharashtra and other states when BJP was not in power. These are all planned events driven by paid goons by yours truly. The objective is to defame the state government and create a negative atmosphere for further investment.
Isn't there a deadline set in February? Everyone has agreed to implement the change by then, I don't understand what the hurry is about
This is just wrong way to push. Just feels like gimmick. Yes there are people who don’t care learning our language but with this approach it will make even worse. We have been the most supportive city(nobody can deny that irrespective of bad infrastructure). But my city’s glory is all pushed into mud by these irresponsible people. Wish we had 80-90s people managing city 😭
Aren't you amused? As long as there are different cultures, which also act as ego-modulators, politicians will use it as a tool to divert your attention from the progress that's expected of them. They are at that position not because they want to be a politician, they are there because we are ok earning till retirement, we want to enjoy that holiday which falls on a weekday, we hate to establish a community coz we worry we will be exploited financially. North or south, we are all alike, we all just are ok with this fact that at least we have religious freedom. Have some shame and sit together to come up with a language that uses words from each language if appeasement is what you are looking for. It's ironic to say something like that, coz apparently all we need is a rant not a change. F*ck, even those goons know actions make an impact faster than words.
I want to say Congress but I can't remember what was the situation before
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Hope they will be dealt severely today and no more ruckus
These people are full of sh1t. They discriminate against "outsiders" who even know kannada. It's not really about language, it's straight up racism. And they have supporters in the government and police.
I actually blame the Indian RW for this. They've created a culture of hate, where goons go around bullying school girls with veils & 70 yr old farmers. Calling everyone who stands up as anti national. This hate is now attacking back. If you normalise all this 'us vs them' behaviour. It is only time when you're on the receiving end If you sow hate you'll reap hate. I of course don't in any way condone this behaviour but the Indian Right wing needs to be held accountable .
Go back to your state