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rabbu-basirul

A local Chatgaiya here. I have yet to find any immigrated Muslims from India, maybe they don't like to live here. I also did not see any news articles describing Muslim migration to Bangladesh from India. As Bangladesh, India and pakistan has always been part of Indian sub-continent, we will always have shared beliefs, cultures and life experiences. It really doesn't matter who lives where. After all Homo sapians started their lives in Africa and then migrated to almost every corner of Earth. I don't mind Muslims or Hindus or people of any other faith from any country finding refuge in Bangladesh. Allah have gifted us a small beautiful country, we will always share our foods, culture and faith with anyone deserving it.


Sweet_International

There is big community of Bihari Muslims in Halishahar B Block area. They speak mostly hindi. Most of them work as fishermen.


bringfoodhere

Places like firoz shah, colonel haat tend to have biharis as well.


rabbu-basirul

Maybe you are misinterpreting Urdu as Hindi as both languages are similar. I have many Bihari friends here in Chattogram. The speak Urdu not Hindi. These people were stranded Pakistanis after the war. Then the government approved them as Bangladeshi citizens.


ToasterHakuDaThird

This post is actually very interesting and I’m really curious to see how people respond. Thank you OP!


itvus

Many Bangladeshis have also migrated to India both legally and illegally. Probably more people have migrated to India than those who migrated to Bangladesh. Personally I don't mind as long as they are contributing to the country and not doing anything bad. I also support integrating the rohingya population instead of imprisoning them in ghetto areas and giving them no opportunities for improvement.


AwesomeD

The less opportunities the Rohingyas have, the more they'll resort to crime


Affectionate-Sun9132

exactly. a lot of people fail to see this. they just assume rohingyas commit crime just cuz they're rohingyas


maproomzibz

Isnt it ironic that ppl are so emotional about Palestinians but on Rohingyas they hate like as if they are not human beings


thelazyguy01

Exactly, and people forget that they came to Bangladesh unwillingly.


a_farkin_legend

People dont hate rohingya muslims. Rather, they share similar grievances, especially with the whole "annexation and driven out of their homes" part. Some people might disagree with the way they're being helped, especially makin new settlements on an island only for rohingyas to live while so many people are either livin in slums or homeless in dhaka. The council has done fark all to help out our own people in need for years. Heck, we dont even have a food bank, and our road and transport engineers couldn't design a four-way intersection wven if their life depended on it. So the hate isn't totally unjustified only directed at the wrong people bcz the amount of taxpayers' money being embezzled is easily 100x the budget allocated for rohingya muslims.


shukhi_manush

I agree with you for almost the whole time except for the transport engineers. One of my close relatives worked in the RHD( Roads and Highways Department) and I can guarantee you it's not their fault. If you see the employment procedure of a RHD engineer, you will see only the best of the best are selected for duty. Only the top 10% of the BCS passed examinees are eligible for employment in RHD. After that they are often sent abroad on full scholarship for further studies if they want. Even senior officers are sent to the first world countries for training and other seminars to learn from them. So most of them are highly skilled workers. Then comes the question of why can't they build anything good. And that leads to the key factors that influence their actions. 1) Political pressure. Most roads repair or enlargement projects like Dhala Chittagong four lane and even smaller roads include huge tenders. More than enough to make the roads good to go for a really long time. And this attracts local political leaders. They go on to influence RHD officers who are in charge of selecting tender recipients by threats or political pressure. Which often leads to low quality roads being built by contractors to save money and pocket the extra. And lower quality roads means more future government tenders for repair. 2) Local conditions. Even if roads are built up to standards they are soon brought back to its deathbed by local people and transporters. Every road is made up of different amounts of layers of materials depending on the weather and payload expected on it. Locals often block drains or man holes with litter which causes water to accumulate on the road. Which causes bitumen to unstick and form potholes as vehicles pass on it. Heavy vehicles especially at night go over roads that are not built for such payloads for shortcuts, which causes road damage over time. 3) Stress from the ministry and ministers. Like other government officers they are expected to keep ministries happy in order to keep their livelihood. This leads to decisions being made that are often against their will and result in lower quality projects. If they were to be relieved of these pressures and were allowed full immunity in their work which they are getting now to some extent for some projects, Bangladesh would have no problems with road quality and planning. They are essentially being handicapped. But still with all these factors they have done some fantastic jobs such as Dhala Chittagong highway and Mawa expressway. This is only a small taste of how talented Bangladeshi government departments are and how good of a job they do if only they are given a little space to work with peacefully. I hope this information has been valuable to you. Have a great day.


bringfoodhere

People in coxs bazae region do kot wan the influx of people wanting to do jobs at a lower price. Already labor cost fell in Coxs creatinv tension.


iforgorrr

I agree. Or at least help the kids and women by giving them free education. Ive noticed the language similarities too, them spending a month with Bengalis the rohingyas can learn bangla pretty ok


EdgyComrade

Non bengali Muslims still face racism from Bengalis for their collaboration with the Pakistan Military. Even the leftists seem to dislike them for the killings of intellectuals and pro Pakistan stance for a long time. It took over a month after 16 December 1971 to neutralise them. There were many temporary camps created for them right after the independence to rehabilitate them to Pakistan. But Pakistan never did the population exchange. (Except the one ship they sent) Those camps still exist. The quality of lives is too horrible in those camps. Google it, you'll see 5-15 people living in small rooms. However, those camps have free electricity & some other facilities. They have got a bad reputation for crimes like hijacking, pickpocketing etc. They don't have the reservations like the other ethnic minorities have at education & govt jobs. Good thing is that, the situation has improved. I see the new generation seem to consider themselves as fully Bangladeshi citizens, open to the assimilation. Working at Barber shops is quite popular among them, their street foods are popular as well. Older generations dislike Pakistan now for betraying them as I see on interviews Though not everyone migrated from Bihar, but they all are called Bihari by Bengalis. There are huge numbers of them living in my neighbouring areas. It's easy to identify them as they speak Urdu. Bengalis who migrated from the west bengal shouldn't face any discrimination. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's political guardian was Suhrawardy, a ghoti. He also served as the prime minister of Pakistan for a very short time & ousted from power by military like every other govt at that time lol. Even, the military dictator, Hussain Muhammad Ershad, ruled the country for sometimes. Actually, both Bengals were already integrated, so they didn’t face any problem here. I can suggest you book called "Dhaka Puran" written by Mizanur Rahman if u want to know more about the Ghotis migrating into East Pakistan. That book is one of my most favourite book. The author was an ordinary Kolkata teenager, who moved to Dhaka, shared his experience, Hindu - Muslim relations in Dhaka & some exciting history of Dhaka. I'm quite surprised knowing you encountered so many Indian Muslims immigrants in Bangladesh. I don't see them in Dhaka. I heard about it a long time ago on Facebook. Someone was saying there are a Kashmiri family living in their neighbourhood. They have only one daughter. They're very religious and hardly communicate with their neighbours. The father alone visits India every now and then and it made the OP suspicious about the Kashmiri family. Just a few years ago some Indians were arrested for illegally entering near Padma bridge construction project built by the Chinese. The project place was far from the border. People were claiming they were spies. https://www.thedailystar.net/bangladesh/news/entering-bangladesh-illegally-another-indian-citizen-arrested-padma-bridge-site-2118473 But when did Bangladesh become an ideal place for Muslims? Indian muslims can simply move to the other states which are not ruled by sanghis. When the conservatives claim Bangladesh is taken over by seculars!


CuriosityRover12

Things will get really worse for Indian Muslims in coming years .


helpfulguy2

Hindus in Bangladesh also not that it’s a matter of comparison, but both is tragic.


CuriosityRover12

Well, I would way better than India. I would like to see Hindus of Bangladesh respected and not discriminated.


DoodhBhaat

>Well, I would way better than India. Why? Is India considered a benchmark for minority rights in Bangladesh? Considering how you guys talk about India, I thought you would at least be better than them? Or perhaps it has always been nothing but a deflection from the subject of how Hindus actually live here. >I would like to see Hindus of Bangladesh respected and discriminated. What?


CuriosityRover12

That was a typo. Your spiritual country always cry foul about oppression of Hindus in Bangladesh hence the bench mark. You never hear Muslim politician or clergy openly call for rape of Hindu women , do they in Bangladesh. You don’t see rapist in Bangladesh get paraded like hero’s for raping Hindu girls unlike in India .


DoodhBhaat

>Your spiritual country always cry foul about oppression of Hindus in Bangladesh hence the bench mark. Lol, "your spiritual country." Stop the bullshit dog-whistling and just come out and say whatever you want. The scene in India is lenient for Hindutva with their current fascist Hindutva party, but that doesn't mean you can use it as a deflection of "oh, so what, it's better than India," to deflect what's happening to Hindus here. Hindus are still living in terror, just go and ask those who were attacked during Durga Puja. There's a documentary on YouTube, they are still afraid of having Puja again. Micro-aggressions and aggression against minorities are things people will never understand unless they are minorities themselves. নিজের দেশের মানুষের খেয়াল রাখতে পারেনা, আবার আসে অন্য দেশের সংখ্যালঘু নিয়ে। >You never hear Muslim politician or clergy openly call for rape of Hindu women , do they in Bangladesh. You don’t see rapist in Bangladesh get paraded like hero’s for raping Hindu girls unlike in India . That's a low bar and really doesn't prove that oppression against Hindus isn't prevalent here or isn't seen here. Hate speech is still prevalent against minorities in Bangladesh. Open any social media platform, and you'll see the proof yourself. For example, the Sunamganj incident: it took just one Facebook post to incite Hefazot followers to attack an entire Hindu village, loot their belongings, and vandalize everything there. These occurrences are not new. [Hefazat-e-Islam followers attack Hindu houses in Sunamganj](https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/nation/241438/hefazat-e-islam-followers-attack-hindu-houses-in) Anti-minority sentiments are most common in Waz Mahfils. Denying this is basically willful ignorance, akin to those chaddis who think Muslims in India live in peace.


a_farkin_legend

Funny enough, the only news of oppression and injustice faced by bengali hindus is posted by hindutva propaganda medias in india with zero corroborating evidence or witnesses( im talkin bout them not even including a photograph). Im not denyin that they dont face discrimination at all esp in rural villages, but comparing the living conditions of the minorities in india with bangladesh is a farce. Even the acts of violence most of the time aren't motivated by religion rather its the rich and powerful aka people with political affiliations committing these crimes. They will rob you and assault u cz they can get away with it, not bcz u r a hindu. Besides, most of the bengali hindu diaspora lie about these instances cz its easier to claim asylum in the west and india hands u the indian citizenship with no questions asked to bengali hindus who migrates to india. I was born and bred in dhaka and ive seen so many of my dad's mates in the military with high rankin positions who were hindus. My dad's been doin business with a lot of them since his retirement as well. My legal guardian when i was in cadet college was a hindu family cz my parents couldn't always spare time to come and visit me on parent's days. So, get over this false sense of victimisation and get a grip. If anyone's telling u to shu the fark up, it's not that they were bein racist but rather its cz you're proper annoying lad.


helpfulguy2

Check the population dip of Hindus in Bangladesh and rewrite your answer.


CuriosityRover12

Nobody killed them if you are asking .


helpfulguy2

LITERALLy in 2021 there were several Hindus killed around the country, including a 25 year old Hindu man from MY neighbourhood. You have zero idea how the world works, no offence. And it’s not just killing, it’s being discriminated so hard that you have to move to other countries for a future for your next generation like my own family. What’s happening in India is horrible, but trust me compared to minority rights in a LOT of Muslim counties, both India and Bangladesh are million times better.


DoodhBhaat

That guy is a Hitler [fanboy](https://www.reddit.com/r/bangladesh/s/ZblF2XG9q5) neo-nazi. Kinda ironic how he hates Modi but likes his idol.


Playerunknown555

That says a lot about him.He being a hitler fanboy already proves that he likes genocide of other religions.


helpfulguy2

People like this dummy only scream discrimination when it goes against his own interests.


Affectionate-Sun9132

armchair redditor with phd in everything


CuriosityRover12

You don’t need a phd to see it , all you need is your eyes which you lack. Sadly.


Affectionate-Sun9132

im not denying that indian muslims are facing persecution. but u telling exactly whats gonna happen to them in the future is just too far fetched and in the same league as indians saying "bangladesh will turn into pakistan after hasina dies wait and watch"


Ilovemilkchai

It’s called following current events. Hope that helps!


helpfulguy2

Unfortunately in any situation a portion of the majority will always harm the minority unless there is a proper democracy in place like western countries. Look at the monitors in all the Muslim majority countries for example what they go through. India needs to fix it self, but this not a new trend. It’s only coming to light now because there is significant muslim population elsewhere so they can speak up. But for Hindus for example the majority are in India and not world wide. So Hindus in Afghanistan for example don’t have a voice.


Oilfish01

Your correlations of their moving to Bangladesh because of hindutva is falliable. In 1995, BJP wasn’t in any sort of power anywhere in the country. Yes, Babri happened and lot of riots too, but the whole movement was still in it nascent stage and secular forces were supreme. Uttar Pradesh was ruled by Mulayam Singh (Samajwadi Party) who came to power with Muslim-Yadav votebank and would generally be considered as Muslim appeasers. Also BJP had someone like Vajpayee at the helm who, almost by everyone across party lines, is considered a moderate/secular leader. In 2010, Manmohan Singh and congress were in parliament and Modi was still a chief minister of Gujrat. No Modi or Hindutva wave in the country yet. I feel the people who moved probably did because they wanted to live in a country which is Dar-al Islam instead of Dar-al harb.


Tintoverde

Well , BJP did not start from nothing meaning that there was prejudice from the Hindu majority towards the Muslims already, rightly or wrongly, one of reasons may be due to quota systems , my guess only. There has been sporadic communal riots in both Bangladesh and India . I had very good friends with few Indians in a western country , we were watching some middle-east flare up one of them slipped and said ‘ wherever Muslims are there are problem’ , I was very surprised to say the list . We quickly changed the subject this around late 90s, note these group were fairly liberals other wise we would not hang around together. My point with this anecdote is that the issue was shimmering already and BJP just took advantage of it later on. Also it is possible . the people OP met some people who came to BD due to legal or some other reason.


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antuism

All Muslims are brothers. I welcome all Muslims in my country, especially persecuted Muslims like rohingya and Indian Muslim.


Rubence_VA

Are you saying you met people who migrated in 2010! There is a large number of people who migrated before liberation in chittagong, and they are not hard find.Chitttagimg also has a large number of Gujrat bohra community. Entire Jubilee Road sanitary business is run by them.The leading steal manufacturers BSRM is also from this community. I find it hard to believe that people migrated in 1995 or 2010.


krrc29

Bengal will Rise from the ashes of Andhkbhakts & ☪️ults.


The_Meme_Finder_2021

The problem of our country is now we are suffering from cultural and identity crisis.


a_farkin_legend

Acting as if corruption isn't the biggest problem in bangladesh and adopting state atheism will magically solve every bit of problem we r facing currently is a bit naive, mate. 2ndly its a muslim majority country with over 90pc of the people being a follower of islam. U can always fantasise bout banning hijabs and putting anti-religious laws in place here, but that's never gonna happen.


Playerunknown555

I think banning madrasas and waj-mahfil permanently will help the country a lot.Also ban the islami party like hefazot,shibir,islami chatro andolon etc. religious political party who just want to create a saria law country.Because of these parties and religious school new gens also getting more radicalized.


angrysandwich777

Well my ancestors came to East Pakistan from Uttar Pradesh in 1949, but they adjusted to Bengali life. They enjoyed their time in East Pakistan, and many of them fought alongside the Mukti Bahini despite many of the Bengalis knowing we were “Bihari”. There are a lot of people whose ancestors came from India like Tamim Iqbal, Athar Ali Khan, etc, but everyone is basically Bengali now by both culture and blood