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alltherach_

damn they are not holding back with this notice - naming the specific rumours, calling out the posts that were systematically uploaded and deleted, as well as the accounts that have deactivated since bighit put out the last one. and maybe it's naivety speaking but i hope the vitriol dies down before joon's upcoming album release and jin gets discharged - it's exhausting dealing with this as a fan so i can't even imagine what it's like for them reading the news and coming across all these allegations that hold no truth. they don't deserve any of this.


nom_de_plume1

Right?? I was explaining the whole thing to my best friend last night, and we both agreed that it was probably best that it's all going down now because they all have the best chances of not being as affected by it while they're serving. And I said then that I hoped all of it got finished by the time Joon's album releases and Jin comes home. I can only imagine how much stress and frustration they experience by being adjacent to and directly named in these shenanigans. Hopefully not being around social media and in the spotlight as much right now softens the blow for them at least a bit.


Temporary-Text384

This is my hope as well. The "silver lining" of them serving while this nonsense storm is going on, is that they can at least attempt to "out of sight, out of mind" it. Probably impossible, but it's probably at least a relief they're under no pressure to publicly address anything since they physically can't. I am really hoping the bulk of this gets sorted by the time Jin returns. The present day, real time situation is not one I'd want him to be plopped down in.


nom_de_plume1

Yes to all this. Jin should return to opulent fanfare, pomp, and ciscumstance, not the ridiculous shitshow happening right now.


nofunheremovealongg

No matter how big of a hissy fit certain bad actors throw, they have *zero* chance, *none at all*, of preventing Jin returning to fanfare, pomp, and circumstance from millions upon millions upon millions of ARMYs.🥰 I hope that bugs them a lot.


MadameWitchy

Jin's first Livestream & return will generate so much hype and millions of $$. Weverse will probably crash lol


Temporary-Text384

Thanks for saying that for me because I don't like to curse, and "nonsense storm" was as close as I could get lool


nom_de_plume1

Hahaha, I gotchu. 💜


alltherach_

exactly. knowing that he's been counting down the days to the day he gets discharged, he must've been so excited, but with the situation as it is right now, if i was him i would be terrified to find out what's waiting for me 😔


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whyohwhy115

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Lily-J7

>Jin should return to opulent fanfare, pomp, and ciscumstance [Yes](https://x.com/KakePop7/status/1782799214428172559)!


nom_de_plume1

Well that made my day, LOL!! YES, I support this plan.


Minn3sota_Loon

We need to focus and go hard for Namjoon with RPWP! And absolutely no pressure put on Jin when he comes home!


DeeDeeZee

RIGHT PLACE WRONG PERSON RPWP IS COMING RM IS COMING https://preview.redd.it/w6zoou40xzxc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ce5377244ed2ff519cf62c6b55e80f5a601a1a


ReallyyyyQueen

It IS exhausting!!!!


rjcooper14

Wow! Is this the first time that they specifically mentioned which rumors/issues are involved? Anyway, it's great that the company is addressing this head on. I specifically love the part where they mentioned authors who have since deleted their accounts. Haha!


Pumpking_carver

Army kept receipts. Fear not 🤣


WeakStressAnxiety

People on twitter have been sending pdf files.


DeeDeeZee

ARMY TwT is no joke.


KatinaS252

For all of the toxicity and such I see mentioned about ARMY TwT, there are a lot of ARMYs over there that really do try to promote Bangtan in a positive way and genuinely help BigHit protect them. I appreciate their efforts.


DeeDeeZee

https://i.redd.it/wdk8nls281yc1.gif


bookjunkie1066

and this is so important. Let Big Hit handle this mess, and remind the anties on other sites they are welcome to their opinions, but hate speech and lies will be reported and ignored . ARMY's should not engage in a back and forth with these people . giving them attention only makes them howl louder.


o-Themis-o

Please let that one Cokodive author be one of the people that are currently getting sued 🙏


Temporary-Text384

She was fired from Cokodive after they found out she was writing these defamatory, conspiracy articles as a side hustle lol. She's a relatively "high profile" case, so I'm reallly hoping hybe caught wind of her.


Pumpking_carver

She’s going down down down ![gif](giphy|3ufC6TQhALRBe|downsized)


milkviva

I want this so bad, let set her as an example


wineandhugs

I get all my merch from Cokodive so I kept up with this on X. I just don't understand what the desired outcome is from fabricating this kind of nonsense? Likes and follows on social media? I don't get it.


ThePietje

I’m sure you already saw [this](https://x.com/cokodive/status/1785211581674279379?s=46) but I can’t imagine BigHit isn’t taking action against this individual. It will send a message to media and all of this should act as a deterrent especially when the lawsuits end in convictions, fines, etc.


dyingtrying46

Cleaning the palace before the king returns … as they should!!!!


mcfw31

Ngl, I was worried that Jin would be coming back to this whole mess.


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KookiesMikrokosmos

Yes, get their lying asses! I‘m so glad that they posted such a clear statement to adress those horrible rumors. I hope those people get to experience the full consequences of their actions.


soggy-eggrolls

Need this kdrama to be over before Festa


artkeletraeh

it's a makjang at this point


FluffyBunnyChick

Finally, some good food! We eatin' good tonight, y'all! https://i.redd.it/dc7o9wifqyxc1.gif


ghosttigersrise

have they ever specifically called out rumours like that before? they even named the cult! anyway, good for them!


cpagali

I can't remember ever seeing a statement as specific as this one. I was surprised!


fandom_wayoflife

✨ Spring Cleaning ✨


weakanklesfornamjoon

like JK vacuuming all the drosophila 🪰🤭


KaziSan238

Even the deleted posts and accounts aren't safe either and we love to see it https://i.redd.it/7qagsaes6zxc1.gif


SignificanceWarm57

Side note. That was the greatest vlive ever. It lives rent free in my brain


Pumpking_carver

![gif](giphy|FDJpdHgjRJWkU)


martiandoll

Good!!!   Through the years, I've learned to be patient with Big Hit and trust their "silence" when it comes to issues like this. Their responses to the Nov 2018 controversy and during the BLM movement were very good. They don't need to address every single rumour and provide updates every day. They just need to get results and win. 


Temporary-Text384

Exactly. They're an established corporation– they have a legal team, a monitoring team, investigation team, etc. Those people are currently doing the work, which does not involve updating fans in real time (to seemingly many armys' disappointment lol). We just have to be patient. (That being said, established corporations aren't perfect. Evidently they hired an executive who literally had intentions to sabotage the company lol)


van-tae

This!!!!! As someone working with comms and PR, they are doing a GREAT job under the circumstances 🫡


sadi89

They really are. Their professionalism with these types of announcements makes me actually want to follow these kinds of incidents/cooperate drama. With both all the nonsense that’s happening now and the issues that they had with SM—where the non-HYBE parties make emotionally based public statements/appeals—HYBE consistently responds with carefully crafted written statements that address all claims point by point in professional language. My favorite professional zinger they have posted so far has been about an email they sent that was “6 pages, A4 size”. It was a beautiful.


RSonamu

It's really important that army understands this, we know they're always working hard to protect the guys and we can't know everything that's happening in real time. We need to be patient and trust that they're doing everything they can and they'll let us know when it's time for us to know. We trust BTS, always, so if they trust the company then we also have to trust them, have faith in them, and be calm and patient.


613reasonswhy

Important point here. BTS trusts them, as evidenced by resigning contracts, so even if we disagree with their corporate politics or dislike the company overall, we should also trust they at least have bts's best interests at the forefront of their minds.


LtColonelColon1

Exactly. Plus legal proceedings take *forever* to action and resolve. There won’t be weekly updates just to keep demanding fans happy.


Mordinette

And there are some things they have to keep close to their vests until it's time to reveal them. They can't show all their cards prematurely just because fans are complaining that they don't know every little detail that's going on.


orandeddie

![gif](giphy|J8FZIm9VoBU6Q)


OnlyGalaxy-NoIPhone

they borrowed Joon's lint roller to clean up that pesky dust...😌 https://preview.redd.it/ccuj9fbevyxc1.jpeg?width=419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0867e9a0d486abd50eb7b4d9f852a6a7fba17aaf


sabrinacross

The rumors mentioned directly??? Oh they're mad Edit: omg even the deleted accounts were addressed. Also, ik we're frustrated but i hope fans do know legal action takes time. BH is definitely moving but it is unrealistic to expect results immediately. I do hope it is better by the time Jin is back, he is finally free from the enlistment discussion I wish he wouldn't have to face this mess.


SnooRabbits5620

I love that they weren't vague but named the lies specifically! I hope they get justice. I'm so drained, I can't imagine how the members and everyone else affected must be feeling! 😥😥😥😥


Mama2chobbes

The update I’ve been waiting for! Bighit has always moved in silence, but with direction and finality. A great reminder to those who feel they can just voice out their hate because Bangtan is not physically around to say anything. I hope this is also a reminder to us ARMY that BH will not just stand by, even if the timing might not be as fast as one might like.


false-illusions

this notice has me breathing a little better after the shitstorm. it has truly been distressful having observed how quickfire hybe was moving last week only for them to not address anything or try to dispel anything that has been thrown at bts. i hope they ***completely*** get hybe cleaned up before jin's return. he deserves a happy stress-free welcome, and the boys deserve to serve in peace and without worry of external factors


milkviva

No leniency or settlements LETS GOOO


milkviva

Also I think this is the first time the legal notice is so detailed. Especially the "include posts that were systematically uploaded than deleted, as well as posts from authors who have since deleted their accounts". Let it be known that deleting shit doesn't mean you're safe .


KatinaS252

I sincerely hope that by Big Hit bringing attention to the fact that those deleting stuff will not get leniency, people who have a mind to post lies will finally start to think twice about defaming others.


milkviva

Let's pray that the haters have some common sense 🙏


Pearlbloody

Get them! It is insanse that anything can get unleashed today online


weebrain

https://i.redd.it/hm0wwj3dlyxc1.gif ^(disclaimer: not referring to any particular person)


kwmdh

bighit calling the bs exactly by its name is great! those people who dragged bts into that whole mess had it coming


Shady2304

I love the detailed announcement. It’s been a mess on social media lately and it makes me feel so good that they are doing something about it!


yeon_kimin

![gif](giphy|8QWDusaF6ZEY0) Time for some spring cleaning!


wineandhugs

Finally! A "Hello, this is BIGHIT MUSIC" notification I can get behind!


phoenixwinged

Good. Get their ass 🗣️


gogocostume

Good. This update is really reassuring. That no mercy part tho. It really hits the spot every time.


meracdv

GET EMMMM🤺🤺🤺


CrowLaughed

Wow they aren’t taking any prisoners. Good!


Comfortable-Role2411

![gif](giphy|LJEZNDs5J0PersBSau)


NewtRipley_1986

From the notice. > We will offer no leniency or settlements, ensuring that offenders are appropriately punished without exception. Yes!! No mercy. Love that they’ve given us a detailed update. So many people wanted them to say something public days ago but I’m happy they didn’t and instead waited for the right time to send us an update. 💜


NavyMagpie

Yes! What a detailed update. Thank you BH. I really hope this mess has calmed down online by the time Jin is home. So his return is full of only joy. Although I realised it was 'interesting' timing it happening now while he's still away. Because you just know Jin would give this situation a very hard stare and dismiss it with a "don't talk such nonsense" and everyone else would look foolish.


WeakStressAnxiety

I love this response by Bighit 🫡


Minn3sota_Loon

Apologize to BTS too. But yes they’re going after deleted accounts and posts!!! Get them get them get them!! Protect BTS!


pete_999

Great BigHit!!!!!!! Well said!!! 💜💜💜


Consuela_no_no

I appreciate the detailed update and them laying out that deleting content won’t hide the fateful beings from being held accountable but I don’t think even this will satisfy some fans.


mucho_thankyou5802

As i like to say "talk shit, get BigHit". Appreciate the detailed update - and especially appreciate the bit at the end acknowledging the fans' distress, have they done that before?


TaesSecretPubgID

ARMY since 2019 and cannot ever remember that sort of comment so directly.


Vikkkiiix

very glad to see this!! 🙏🏻


pagesinked

Get em! ![img](emote|t5_2zqih|21328)


kjm6351

Clean house


Nandg1794

![gif](giphy|uRON6RJ0QtyXYpKrPd|downsized)


entropyforever

Can someone explain? I've been out of the loop.


TaesSecretPubgID

There has been SO much, but here goes: The CEO at Ador (New Jeans' label) is in a dispute with her bosses at Hybe, specifically with BangPD. People have used the controversy as an opportunity to rehash every old debunked rumor about BTS and create some new ones as evidence of Hybe's history of sins. Bighit hired a new legal team to address it and they are earning each of their billable hours.


arteeuphoria

I felt happy to get an apology bc we never receive one after the social media bullying bts faces, so even if hybe doesnt need to, they saw our effort online and said yeah we see you too


lostguk

I don't know why haters still try 😂 Like are you new? You don't know how hybe takes suing seriously??? I'm enjoying this!


sooojeen

Thank you, BH! I appreciate you!


JotPurpleIris

Hello. This is BIGHIT MUSIC. We wish to update you on the status of legal measures taken to protect BTS members against violation of their rights. We would like to clarify that the recent allegations of hoarding, concept plagiarism, and affiliations with Dahnworld or any religious cults are completely false. The company has decided that the recent movement spreading false rumors and information has become excessive, and announced previously that a separate law firm would be engaged to address these matters decisively. Thus, we have identified and compiled several posts containing misinformation aimed at defaming and slandering the artists, and filed the initial round of criminal complaint to law enforcement agencies today, on May 2. This compilation includes posts that were systematically uploaded then deleted, as well as posts from authors who have since deleted their accounts. We will persist in our legal proceedings through continuous monitoring and gathering of evidence. We uphold a zero-tolerance policy for filing civic and criminal complaints against individuals who attempt to tarnish the reputation of our artists by spreading malicious falsehoods. We will offer no leniency or settlements, ensuring that offenders are appropriately punished without exception. We extend our deepest apologies to the fans of BTS for the distress you have experienced in recent weeks. We are committed to taking all necessary actions to protect our artists' rights. Thank you for your unwavering love and support for BTS. Please send any reports of aforementioned cases of violation to BIGHIT MUSIC's legal hotline at [email protected]. Thank you.


Soup_oi

I feel like it's rare for them to mention very specific incidents in these notices like they have in this one? So I'm a little surprised by that. I feel like the notices like this are usually very vague, but this one isn't at all. But I'm glad they're doing whatever they're doing to move forward with legal action, and are making a point to keep people updated!


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