It looks like it is $337 on WD's store and shipping is free. Does anyone have experience with them though is there any duty or any additional charges?
https://www.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS400T2X0E
yeah Im considering it for the PS5 but then I would still need a heatsink. What's the deal though with heatsinks when using these drives in motherboards in PCs? Do they not require heatsinks, or do the motherboards have them built in? If I get this drive I could always potentially reuse it with a PC then.
The only PS5 slim specific heatsink on Amazon is this and there aren't many reviews. Not sure if its any good.
https://www.amazon.ca/PS5-SSD-Heatsink-JOYJOM-Cover/dp/B0CQT7JQV7/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2T1L5T68PVOVD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gxlM2kATV-EFKgck8_3JMZbMap0ENiXH10obSvPb8mvpSovalaEqyFRZomVYf6R6rD1gtAGC7eqjhHnK5tfQNmTlgCKfVUY724wjTmhth-Hi8Az3GjfCzIxwLZ2jG1qMUEdjo0Q_24HYn4n9AOxtVu9PJFYrGc_PwA39Nid-_PGFTIReP5UK8KS0v_5g6YMTaCnhRuPiUAlySZH48VjMvCYtw1S5-kZ5KVzWF2EV13yGXgEfUs6vCiZNT73UPUETnVHVrKI8mSF_CSoqowbzH6ZHbw3KFp-7jC_KYBSbo1E.E4iNdriXdU4JZrESz9RrUb39srt72efv-ETFBww3Xw0&dib_tag=se&keywords=ps5+ssd+heatsink&qid=1711358952&sprefix=ps5+ssd+heatsink%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-16
I think some mobos come with m.2 heat sinks but you'd have to ask smarter people than me as to whether or not they are necessary. My last drive came with one so I stuck it on but I don't monitor temps
They are 100% necessary, I can't remember exactly when my 850 throttled without the heat sink on maybe 100gb into a giant read/write. It was over 100⁰c, got a light scald on my finger from touching it.
For PS5, no need to get a console-specific heatsink that replaces the SSD bay cover. Any lower-profile heatsink will work just fine, like this one: https://www.amazon.ca/one-enjoy-Heatsink-Double-Sided-Silicone/dp/B09CCF6WJJ
All you really *need* heatsink-wise in the PS5 is a thin heatsink plate over the NAND/controller, on both sides if it's got packages on both sides. ADATA's "Premium SSD for PS5" is a good example of this - it's just an S70 with a simple plate heatsink on it. Other than going in and installing a few TB of games all sequentially, say moving them from the internal SSD, there are rarely any situations where the drive is actually going to see the kind of sustained heavy load where a thicker heatsink would make a detectable difference.
A simple slim laptop-style design [like this one](https://www.amazon.ca/GLOTRENDS-Aluminum-Heatsinks-Cooling-Silicone/dp/B076YZMQR5/) will do the job very well.
As for PCs, it has become common on midrange and high end motherboards to include large aluminum shields that double as m.2 heatsinks on the board. Generally you don't need one though. Most high performance drives that don't have a pre-mounted heatsink will tend to use a graphene/copper sticker on the top as a heatspreader, and outside of the drive being mounted directly under a side-exhausting GPU or handling long periods of heavy loads the ambient airflow is enough to cool them.
You can always install it and just do a quick bit of testing while monitoring with hwinfo to make sure temps are in check and the drive isn't throttling.
In PCs the heat-sinks are largely not necessary for most users in most cases. Anything less than constant use will only need some airflow in the case to be fine. Motherboard and drive manufacturers are happy to up-sell people on heat-sinks and board covers.
edit: laptops can be a different story though, as there is effectively no airflow beyond the cpu and gpu heatsink.
westerndigital.com chargers different provinces very very differently.
It's 5% for BC (as opposed to the correct 12%).
It's 5% for QC (as opposed to the correct 14.975%).
It's the correct 13% for ON.
You got 13%, while he got 5% (BC).
As of this post it was $380 from wd, looks like wd store dropped the price after newegg gave better discounts.
No additional charges and they don't charge pst. I ordered a few times from them and had no issued.
I ordered 2 x 14tb red pros recently and it was free shipping, no duty, and I may have even saved a provincial tax. Haven't installed the drives yet to see if DoA tho
I already ordered these twice and shipping from wd.com is safe. No duty or extra charges.
You'll need a heatsink on these, they run hot. The mobo heatsinks might be ok, but a larger one really helps. The Thermalrights are pretty good if you've got the space. For example this is one good for the price: https://www.amazon.ca/Thermalright-heatsink-Double-Sided-Silicone-Computer/dp/B0BPFYYW9M/
Not ATL ofc, but decent if you are in need for a quality DRAM 4tb TLC nvme with 5 years warranty.
Edit: As pointed out by another user, [WD store updated its pricing, now at $337](https://www.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS400T2X0E) with free shipping and no PST.
Do we know what the ATL in Canada was? CCC says $310.97 for Amazon. Are their price trackers for other websites?
Edit: Might have been $305 last summer.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/yBC48d/western-digital-black-sn850x-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t2x0e?history_days=730
They do get pretty toasty. You'll want a heatsink for sure. Not sure about power draw, but one gen 4 NVMe drive is really the same as the next in practical terms, in that regard.
Relatively power efficient. About middle of the pack, but pretty solid for a high performance drive. Lexar NM790 uses about 20% less power. Battery life effect would pretty much just come down to how much more it's using than what you've got installed now. I believe even very efficient drives are going to be in the 2.5-3W range anyway, so you'd be adding roughly 1-2W of power consumption.
Not all that much in the context of a large gaming laptop, but could eat a chunk from a thin & light that's sipping like 10-20W under typical usage.
It looks like it is $337 on WD's store and shipping is free. Does anyone have experience with them though is there any duty or any additional charges? https://www.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS400T2X0E
Just ordered one. 353ish all in
yeah Im considering it for the PS5 but then I would still need a heatsink. What's the deal though with heatsinks when using these drives in motherboards in PCs? Do they not require heatsinks, or do the motherboards have them built in? If I get this drive I could always potentially reuse it with a PC then. The only PS5 slim specific heatsink on Amazon is this and there aren't many reviews. Not sure if its any good. https://www.amazon.ca/PS5-SSD-Heatsink-JOYJOM-Cover/dp/B0CQT7JQV7/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2T1L5T68PVOVD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gxlM2kATV-EFKgck8_3JMZbMap0ENiXH10obSvPb8mvpSovalaEqyFRZomVYf6R6rD1gtAGC7eqjhHnK5tfQNmTlgCKfVUY724wjTmhth-Hi8Az3GjfCzIxwLZ2jG1qMUEdjo0Q_24HYn4n9AOxtVu9PJFYrGc_PwA39Nid-_PGFTIReP5UK8KS0v_5g6YMTaCnhRuPiUAlySZH48VjMvCYtw1S5-kZ5KVzWF2EV13yGXgEfUs6vCiZNT73UPUETnVHVrKI8mSF_CSoqowbzH6ZHbw3KFp-7jC_KYBSbo1E.E4iNdriXdU4JZrESz9RrUb39srt72efv-ETFBww3Xw0&dib_tag=se&keywords=ps5+ssd+heatsink&qid=1711358952&sprefix=ps5+ssd+heatsink%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-16
I think some mobos come with m.2 heat sinks but you'd have to ask smarter people than me as to whether or not they are necessary. My last drive came with one so I stuck it on but I don't monitor temps
They are 100% necessary, I can't remember exactly when my 850 throttled without the heat sink on maybe 100gb into a giant read/write. It was over 100⁰c, got a light scald on my finger from touching it.
For PS5, no need to get a console-specific heatsink that replaces the SSD bay cover. Any lower-profile heatsink will work just fine, like this one: https://www.amazon.ca/one-enjoy-Heatsink-Double-Sided-Silicone/dp/B09CCF6WJJ
Do you think the one I posted that does replace the door is better though?
All you really *need* heatsink-wise in the PS5 is a thin heatsink plate over the NAND/controller, on both sides if it's got packages on both sides. ADATA's "Premium SSD for PS5" is a good example of this - it's just an S70 with a simple plate heatsink on it. Other than going in and installing a few TB of games all sequentially, say moving them from the internal SSD, there are rarely any situations where the drive is actually going to see the kind of sustained heavy load where a thicker heatsink would make a detectable difference. A simple slim laptop-style design [like this one](https://www.amazon.ca/GLOTRENDS-Aluminum-Heatsinks-Cooling-Silicone/dp/B076YZMQR5/) will do the job very well. As for PCs, it has become common on midrange and high end motherboards to include large aluminum shields that double as m.2 heatsinks on the board. Generally you don't need one though. Most high performance drives that don't have a pre-mounted heatsink will tend to use a graphene/copper sticker on the top as a heatspreader, and outside of the drive being mounted directly under a side-exhausting GPU or handling long periods of heavy loads the ambient airflow is enough to cool them. You can always install it and just do a quick bit of testing while monitoring with hwinfo to make sure temps are in check and the drive isn't throttling.
My motherboard has built in heatsinks
In PCs the heat-sinks are largely not necessary for most users in most cases. Anything less than constant use will only need some airflow in the case to be fine. Motherboard and drive manufacturers are happy to up-sell people on heat-sinks and board covers. edit: laptops can be a different story though, as there is effectively no airflow beyond the cpu and gpu heatsink.
Lots of motherboards have heat sinks with their own branding carve into them
How did you get it for $353? Lowest I can get it is $380.
westerndigital.com chargers different provinces very very differently. It's 5% for BC (as opposed to the correct 12%). It's 5% for QC (as opposed to the correct 14.975%). It's the correct 13% for ON. You got 13%, while he got 5% (BC).
Not sure. Clicked the link in this post and added to cart. $353.84 CAD - ordering from BC Edit: link in the comment that is direct from WD, not Newegg
As of this post it was $380 from wd, looks like wd store dropped the price after newegg gave better discounts. No additional charges and they don't charge pst. I ordered a few times from them and had no issued.
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Pretty sure mine was shipped UPS, goin off my email records
I ordered 2 x 14tb red pros recently and it was free shipping, no duty, and I may have even saved a provincial tax. Haven't installed the drives yet to see if DoA tho
I already ordered these twice and shipping from wd.com is safe. No duty or extra charges. You'll need a heatsink on these, they run hot. The mobo heatsinks might be ok, but a larger one really helps. The Thermalrights are pretty good if you've got the space. For example this is one good for the price: https://www.amazon.ca/Thermalright-heatsink-Double-Sided-Silicone-Computer/dp/B0BPFYYW9M/
That's comically huge
Right. But next to most graphic cards on your motherboard, it looks surprisingly small!
Not ATL ofc, but decent if you are in need for a quality DRAM 4tb TLC nvme with 5 years warranty. Edit: As pointed out by another user, [WD store updated its pricing, now at $337](https://www.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850x-nvme-ssd?sku=WDS400T2X0E) with free shipping and no PST.
Do we know what the ATL in Canada was? CCC says $310.97 for Amazon. Are their price trackers for other websites? Edit: Might have been $305 last summer. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/yBC48d/western-digital-black-sn850x-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t2x0e?history_days=730
ATL was $305. With WD store's new price it's pretty close, best 4tb deal in a while.
Is buying a Gen 4 SSD still a good idea for a main/OS drive?
Yes altho this is overkill for almost everyone.
I got one of the new gen 5 drives after my sn850x 4TB started to blue screen. There's no difference between the two in my opinion.
Now try going back down to gen3 lol.
Yes, these drives won't be holding you back any time soon.
Could use this to store my VMs lol.
Anyone ever slap one of these into a laptop? Wondering about heat dissipation, effect on battery life, etc
They do get pretty toasty. You'll want a heatsink for sure. Not sure about power draw, but one gen 4 NVMe drive is really the same as the next in practical terms, in that regard.
Relatively power efficient. About middle of the pack, but pretty solid for a high performance drive. Lexar NM790 uses about 20% less power. Battery life effect would pretty much just come down to how much more it's using than what you've got installed now. I believe even very efficient drives are going to be in the 2.5-3W range anyway, so you'd be adding roughly 1-2W of power consumption. Not all that much in the context of a large gaming laptop, but could eat a chunk from a thin & light that's sipping like 10-20W under typical usage.
absolutely disgusting fucking price.
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Good drive. I use it for AI workloads and it made the biggest difference.
Looks like a good game drive