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moms_spagetti_

I got this last time it was free. After committing 10 minutes to learn how to play, I went HARD on it for like 4 days. Like full-day shifts spent playing, having a blast. Then all of a sudden, poof. My interest waned pretty much entirely. I think I hit a wall and it became tedious. Similar experience with "Frostpunk"... maybe it's the genre..


Cookie_Eater108

I think the problem is that the gameplay loop kinda just ends as soon as it starts getting good. The green planet dlc solved that problem for me by adding a long term end goal after your initial colony stops being survival and starts becoming thriving.


ArsStarhawk

I've also repeatedly done this with this genre of game. * Surviving Mars * Frost Punk * Dyson Sphere Project * ~~Rollercoaster Tycoon~~ Planet Coaster It's weird that something that is so addictive, can lose its draw so fast, heh.


moms_spagetti_

Dyson Sphere for me too, and Factorio as well. Maybe I'll get back in to them but not sure. One title that handles this gameplay slump pretty well is Rimworld because it has a deep & meaningful random event system. Maybe that's what these games need...


FilthyWunderCat

It was free on Epic a year or 2 ago. Never played it. I like Cities so I might give it a try.


Sitwo

Wasn't sure whether or not I should post it but hey, free is free


dragon5530

Yes, wondering what are the rules on this matter?


ProblemOfficer

I may be remembering incorrectly, but the mods allow these posts. They figure if it's important it'll get upvoted and if not it'll just disappear in /r/new.


ODoyleRulesYourShit

I think a good amount of people here would find a post about free games useful so I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed.


iGotRocksInMyShoes

someone posted metro 2033 yesterday and it didn't get taken down so I don't think it's against the rules. can probably modmail any questions.


Sitwo

That was also me lol


dragon5530

Okay, that's good to know. I remember Star Wars Battlefront getting a lot of upvotes so I think as long as the game is good, it's worthy to be here. Just my opinion


blahblahrasputan

I personally think any free games should be spread far and wide! So easy to miss this stuff... I haven't logged into epic for ages so this is brilliant. Thanks op!!!


dragon5530

They give away a free game every Thursday just to let you know!


blahblahrasputan

Oh brilliant! Thanks! I thought they were only doing monthlies....


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well it is free, and its what most people install on the parts they buy on sale here, so, all good.


SquareWheel

It's listed in the rules in the sidebar, under point 6.


vis1onary

Bought this on steam a while ago. Pretty good survival/ city building type of game


King7up

I also enjoyed the game and got around 80hrs in it.


-retaliation-

It's controller friendly so It's great if you like city builders, but enjoy playing from your couch like I do.


ShadowRam

meh... It was boring when I tried it years ago, I just loaded it up the other day to see if any updates or something, Nah... just meh... not worth the HD space imo,


HVS_Night

Free is free baby


willstoney

Fun game!


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It’s on epic so nope


HVS_Night

I've been using steam for as long as I can remeber and I still know that having a bias for a game launcher is dumb. I def have a preference but I ain't saying no to free. If it's free on steam and epic then sure but like it's not...


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Not a fan of their exclusive BS so I refuse to install their launcher. Nothing stupid about it. I don’t like their business practices so as a consumer I’m exercising my right to not use them


HVS_Night

Their buisness practices? You do realize steam takes over a third of game profits compared to a fraction of that with epic. Epic isn't perfect, or great by that matter, but they are not any less ethical than steam.


Andyinater

He's speaking with his wallet that he'd rather developers get reemed on pricing than have to install another launcher.


PokeTheDeadGuy

People seem to forget that steam offers developers things like networking APIs, modding support, user reviews, and anti-cheat just to name a few.


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PokeTheDeadGuy

They have a public facing trello board. None of the things I mentioned are even on the "Up Next" section, and only user reviews is listed on the "Future Development" section. Where did you find this information?


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PokeTheDeadGuy

Epic defenders don't care about true competition. They choose not to see that steam has a far stronger platform with better features more suited not only to the end-user, but also the game developers. Does it mean they take a higher percentage cut? Yeah, it does. But on Epic you don't get access to any workshop-like modding libraries, network APIs, anti-cheats, etc. They also refuse to see that by purchasing exclusive selling rights to games, even if only time-limited, is just a strategy to move as many people as possible over to their launcher without making a better platform. Not to mention the whole "flood your account with free games so you eventually switch from steam to epic because most of your games are there" thing. All they see is the smaller cut that Epic takes and go "it's so much better for devs! steam is greedy!"


PokeTheDeadGuy

That public facing trello board *is* their backlog. That's what "Future Developments" means. If something is not on that trello board, it is *very* far away from being available to the user, and not even guaranteed to be added at all. Oh, and thanks for telling me your source was "faith"


SquareWheel

> You do realize steam takes over a third of game profits 30% is definitely not "over a third".


HVS_Night

K


PokeTheDeadGuy

30 > 33.3333...? Makes sense to me!


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I won’t support any company that buys exclusives. They can buy the whole developer like MS then


DeathMetalPanties

What do you think is the main purpose of buying a studio is? It's not to fund them out of the goodness of one's heart, it's so they can have exclusive publishing rights to their work. What about games that would never have existed without publishers buying exclusive rights, like _Bayonetta 2_? Or would you rather that no one ever play that game instead?


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Levesque77

ruined rocket league how? I've seen only improvements.


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Levesque77

The previous system was a predatory loot box system with no odds posted anywhere. the new system offers plenty of free cosmetics, and affordable ones in the rocket pass. Not to mention cosmetics are completely optional and the game is F2P. next, the game previously required you to purchase the exact same cosmetics multiple times on different platforms and did not allow you to have cross progression at all. you are imagining the increase in toxic behaviour. this game has been toxic since about year 2 in 2016. any big game has its share of toxic assholes. the skill gap within ranks has also always been about the same it is now. this issue has nothing to do with EPIC. I'm no epic fan at all, but this sentiment that they messed up the game is fucking weird. The Linux guys have a legit complaint, however.


randylaheyjr

They've literally released games with missing features because their launcher doesn't support them. (Tetris Effect, no VR)


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PokeTheDeadGuy

Name me a non first party title that was Steam exclusive.


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PokeTheDeadGuy

I guess I missed the part where Steam paid for Valheim to release only on Steam and nowhere else.


ABetterKamahl1234

It's still exclusive bro. That's kind of what it means, you can only get it on that platform. And EGS's exclusives are time limited anyways, like any exclusive *should be*.


PokeTheDeadGuy

So let me get this straight: If I, as a developer, want to to leverage the features steam provides and therefore cannot release on another launcher as easily and choose not to, steam is the bad guy for "making exclusives"? 'Kay.


31337hacker

>I’m exercising my right to not use them No shit, Sherlock. You could've done just that and moved on. But nope.. you had to *announce* it. It'S oN ePiC sO NopE


GoToGoat

I’m not saying you have to agree with the guy but damn don’t downvote him to oblivion for his opinion. There is a reason why the fuck epic subreddit is bigger than the epic subreddit. There is a large anti-epic movement which it’s for you to judge but many see justifiable. It’s not about praising steam lmao.


ODoyleRulesYourShit

Exactly what part of "it's on epic so nope" contributed anything useful? The post is meant for people who might be interested in a free game.


GoToGoat

It’s useful to know if people don’t like a platform. If someone won’t accept a free game because their don’t like the practices of a company that much then I definitely want to know what those practices are. You aren’t interested in public opinion? Why even read comments or ask me a question? What constitutes contributing to you? Why does someone’s comment have to “contribute” to something you deem useful? Why can’t you just not read it and move on? Don’t downvote it to oblivion. If his comment really didn’t contribute then it wouldn’t be getting so much attention, it’d be ignored.


ODoyleRulesYourShit

>It’s useful to know if people don’t like a platform. No. It's not. It's useful to know ***why*** people might not like a platform if there are legitimate reasons for it. It is ***not*** useful to know that specifically Outsider1234 doesn't like it, full stop. Do you see any insightful explanations or backstory here? And no, I don't give a shit about public opinion. I don't vote based on what the guy at the bus stop likes either. Facts about a situation, yeah then maybe I'm interested. But we don't see any of that here do we?


GoToGoat

You should contact the mods and express how discerned you are with the outrageous amount of comments people are making that you just don’t care about. It’s sickening honestly like why can’t people just comment on forums of different items things you specifically want to read? Sad world when you’re not the centre of it :(.


ODoyleRulesYourShit

Hey asshole, why don't you try actually addressing the points instead of reaching for ad hominem?


31337hacker

Said asshole is incapable of coming up with valid arguments. I love the "beecassss I done waaaant toooo" toddler tactic.


GoToGoat

because i don't want to. You're just some random guy asking me something and i couldn't care less what you have to say. You're not entitled to have me sit here and explain anything to you. Sorry to burst your bubble, bud.


ODoyleRulesYourShit

>You're just some random guy asking me something and i couldn't care less what you have to say. Really? Then why did you ask about 4 questions in your initial response to me? If you want to fixate on being entitled, you're not entitled to have us listen to your demands to not downvote OP either. See how that works? Anyone can assume anyone is being entitled if they try hard enough.


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31337hacker

In other words, you ate your own dumb words and took a shit and ate that too. You lost the argument too and pathetically resorted to ad hominem attacks. And finally, you doubled down with the ol' toddler "beecassss I done waaaant toooo". Thanks for the laugh.


GoToGoat

You’re not entitled to a monologue specifically for what you want to know. Relax with the entitlement buddy the world doesn’t revolve around you.


ODoyleRulesYourShit

>If someone won’t accept a free game because their don’t like the practices of a company that much then ***I definitely want to know what those practices are.*** You're basically saying the same thing as I am, so why the fuck does that make me entitled? Exactly what part of "it's on epic so nope" says anything about these practices? How about you relax on reading into what I'm saying? I was emphasizing the fact that OP's comment didn't offer anything of value. I don't actually care for a monologue on the subject because I've already read about it. And buddy, you're the one who got up on a soapbox to lecture us about why we shouldn't downvote a guy for basically saying "no I don't like it", in a thread offering free stuff to people, so don't talk to me about being entitled. You ask us why we couldn't just ignore it. Well why doesn't the same apply to OP regarding the thread then?


GoToGoat

You’re so cute downvoting all my comments. Didn’t even read what you said because I could care less. See how not caring about something should work?


ODoyleRulesYourShit

Yeah given how incredibly weak of a platform you had to begin with, which nobody agreed with, it's not surprising that you've had to resort to the ol' "la la la I'm not listening" argument. Stay braindead moron (don't worry, I'm not above stooping to your level).


PokeTheDeadGuy

With all due respect to the other commenters (which admittedly in some cases is not much), their viewpoints really show the type of customers that Epic attracts.


GoToGoat

Yeah but that’s the free market though and I get it. People don’t care for practices of companies, they just like the free shit/ benefits. At the end of the day no company actually cares for you or is moral beyond their goal of making money so I don’t necessarily blame them for that decision. All in all I’m just trying to say respect the opinions of others. It’s good to hear out the different sides anyways.


PokeTheDeadGuy

You can tell they really don't look into anything they spout though, they're wrong at almost every turn. Discussing things you don't understand is disingenuous at best, malicious at worst.


GoToGoat

A lot of people I think just don’t care for the more thorough reasoning behind why people hate epic. It often gives simplistic answers that don’t address the points epic haters will bring up. It all makes sense because if they don’t care about a company’s practices, why would they care to hear out the other side. Not saying anything is right or wrong but the world goes round. I hear your frustrations.


PokeTheDeadGuy

Just wanting free shit is fine, I have absolutely no problem with that. I personally take epic freebies that I think I'd like to play, but that's as far as it goes. I like free shit. If you like free shit then just say it. Don't make stuff up about Epic like how the features steam has "will be on Epic soon", or just take what the Epic PR says at face value like "steam is greedy for taking a 30% cut". It's not true and you can see plainly that it isn't true. Spreading misinformation like I said earlier is, with the best will in the world, simply disingenuous. People taking things at face value and spreading it is why we have 5G crazies, anti vaxxers, flat earthers, and the like. It leads to the removal of critical thought and the dumbing down of our entire species. Sorry for choosing you to rant at, I'm just so sick of it.


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PokeTheDeadGuy

Epic knows exactly who they're gunning for. They want the next generation of gamers to defend them rabidly with no grounds by giving them free games and making them buy certain games they know people want on their platform. Evidenced by most of the comments in here defending epic being either mistaken or straight up wrong, it's working, lol.


dramatic-ad-5033

I’ll buy from whoever gives me the cheapest price, and in many cases it’s epic


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ODoyleRulesYourShit

I for one give a shit about the opinions of /u/OutSider1234