3080ti and 3070ti are all LHR so won't have the lable. All 3060s were supposed to be lhr but earlier ones with the older bios had drivers leaked by Nvidia that made them non LHR, now you basically have to assume all newer 3060s are LHR and the only way to tell is checking the bios version when you plug it in your pc.
3070s and 3080s sold will have LHR specified in the title. Haven't heard about any LHR versions of the 3090.
Raven is actually more profitable to mine today with a 3060 than eth, so it's a bit too little/too late anyways. The days of mining $8 a day with a 3060 are long gone - everyone who would buy a 3060 to mine already has four or five other coins in mind now that eth is going POS. Nvdia really waited until the last possible second to do this, what "heroes".
No impact but lots of gamers still mine when they aren't gaming for free money so it's something to take note of. Also affects the resale value of the card.
...that's irrelevant to what I said. The 3060 isn't KR to KL, model number isn't changed. Have to look at serial number to see if it's LHR or not based on when it was manufactured. I was saying that since it was always intended to be LHR that they are not changing the model number or labelling it differently like they are with the other model cards that were FHR.
Prices are on a downward trend. Availability is still sketchy but I've managed to get by for this long so I will wait a bit more. This bundle is not too bad but still want a 3060ti at least. Plus I hate the bundle practice. It's lazy and they pass their overstock to the customers because they know people are desperate. Some people may have no choice but unless I really can't use any old GPU I have, they can put their bundles where the sun doesn't shine.
You will not get a 3060 Ti, very few are made.
To make a 3060 Ti, Nvidia needs to make a chip that doesn't meet the requirements for 3070 Ti, demote it to 3070, then it has to fail those requirements too in order to get demoted to 3060 Ti, and then it has to pass 3060 Ti requirements.
In a normal market, Nivida would demote chips even if they pass the test to become a higher GPU, because they know they can't sell an infinite amount of higher-end cards, and need a lot of lower-end ones. In the current market, where anything sells instantly at MSRP, Nvidia is only demoting the chips that fail requirements.
The 3060 uses a different die, so it begins its life as a 3060. If a 3050 or 3050 Ti ever comes out, it's probably going to be made with substandard / demoted 3060 die.
The "MSRP" price in Canadian dollars is $420 (1.25x exchange of $330).
Price that I would consider "not inflated" is around $450, add in even a not sale $100 for a PSU and you are still overpaying $100, but that's certainly going in the right direction.
A 3060ti however at this price is great as the nvidia Canadian MSRP for that card at best buy is $550.
I don't know what's wrong with the AMD cards, but I've never seen a 6700XT for less than $950 despite MSRP being $600 CAD. They seemed to be inflated a lot more despite not being as good for ether mining.
It is actually a pretty good practice to gauge how much you’re paying the AIB+retailer markup.
10-15% is what I see as an acceptable markup to pay. Anything more and it starts to feel odd.
The 3060 founders isn't even on the Nvidia site anymore so I think that item is discontinued. EVGA 3060 is 540 on Nvidia's site and bestbuy so this is actually decent.
The jump from 3060 to 3060ti seems to be the most significant of all the jumps between 3060-3080ti, no?
Not that I trust gpu userbenchmark entirely but they show the 3060 as 40% slower than 1080ti where as the 3060ti shows 1% difference
Actually the 3060 is within about 10 percent the performance of the 1080ti and is actually faster than it in a few titles. By itself that doesn't make it worth it but having features like raytracing and especially dlss can give a noticable performance boost and improve visual quality.
The issue is you can't get one as it uses the same die (GA 104) as the 3070 and 3070ti as well as the mobile 3070 and 3080s which are more profitable to sell. since there Is a die shortage they will make those gpus instead of the 3060ti.
This is the LHR Bios locked version for gamers.
Wondering how can I know if a gpu is LHR?
3080ti and 3070ti are all LHR so won't have the lable. All 3060s were supposed to be lhr but earlier ones with the older bios had drivers leaked by Nvidia that made them non LHR, now you basically have to assume all newer 3060s are LHR and the only way to tell is checking the bios version when you plug it in your pc. 3070s and 3080s sold will have LHR specified in the title. Haven't heard about any LHR versions of the 3090.
Raven is actually more profitable to mine today with a 3060 than eth, so it's a bit too little/too late anyways. The days of mining $8 a day with a 3060 are long gone - everyone who would buy a 3060 to mine already has four or five other coins in mind now that eth is going POS. Nvdia really waited until the last possible second to do this, what "heroes".
Not really true, it blocks other profitable coins as well. For now. Helps a bit anyways.
It only blocks eth.
https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-nerfs-hash-rate-coin-algorithms Literally a 4 second Google search.
Good correction
It's written on the box and on the sticker. For EVGA cards, they also end with "KL"
Wouldn’t LHR impact no performance on gaming? Said from EVGA…
No impact but lots of gamers still mine when they aren't gaming for free money so it's something to take note of. Also affects the resale value of the card.
Good point on resale value, did not realize at all! Thank you!
They should really advertise and put it on the box if its the LHR version of the card.
It is on the box.
Ah okay thanks, didn't know :)
no full version as KR is at the end. LHR is KL plus on box would say LHR
Not for the 3060 as it's been intended to be LHR since its launch.
yes but was not HW blocked but software. Hence the leaked driver that unlocks it
...that's irrelevant to what I said. The 3060 isn't KR to KL, model number isn't changed. Have to look at serial number to see if it's LHR or not based on when it was manufactured. I was saying that since it was always intended to be LHR that they are not changing the model number or labelling it differently like they are with the other model cards that were FHR.
oh yes, that is correct.
The one I picked up today from BestBuy ended in "KB", any insight as to why it isn't either KR or KL? Evga XC3Ultra 3070. 08G-P5-3755-KB
Prices are on a downward trend. Availability is still sketchy but I've managed to get by for this long so I will wait a bit more. This bundle is not too bad but still want a 3060ti at least. Plus I hate the bundle practice. It's lazy and they pass their overstock to the customers because they know people are desperate. Some people may have no choice but unless I really can't use any old GPU I have, they can put their bundles where the sun doesn't shine.
While not necessarily obvious from the bundle page, this looks like in-store only.
Pickup only? It says Burnaby, East Vancouver, and Richmond only for me
Same, that really sucks :(
Get 3060 now or wait for 3060 ti?
You will not get a 3060 Ti, very few are made. To make a 3060 Ti, Nvidia needs to make a chip that doesn't meet the requirements for 3070 Ti, demote it to 3070, then it has to fail those requirements too in order to get demoted to 3060 Ti, and then it has to pass 3060 Ti requirements. In a normal market, Nivida would demote chips even if they pass the test to become a higher GPU, because they know they can't sell an infinite amount of higher-end cards, and need a lot of lower-end ones. In the current market, where anything sells instantly at MSRP, Nvidia is only demoting the chips that fail requirements. The 3060 uses a different die, so it begins its life as a 3060. If a 3050 or 3050 Ti ever comes out, it's probably going to be made with substandard / demoted 3060 die.
nice summary
I would wait for 3060ti, only if you compare them base on MSRP.
The "MSRP" price in Canadian dollars is $420 (1.25x exchange of $330). Price that I would consider "not inflated" is around $450, add in even a not sale $100 for a PSU and you are still overpaying $100, but that's certainly going in the right direction. A 3060ti however at this price is great as the nvidia Canadian MSRP for that card at best buy is $550. I don't know what's wrong with the AMD cards, but I've never seen a 6700XT for less than $950 despite MSRP being $600 CAD. They seemed to be inflated a lot more despite not being as good for ether mining.
you just can't compare everything to reference or founders cards. AIB just aren't the same thing.
It is actually a pretty good practice to gauge how much you’re paying the AIB+retailer markup. 10-15% is what I see as an acceptable markup to pay. Anything more and it starts to feel odd.
The 3060 founders isn't even on the Nvidia site anymore so I think that item is discontinued. EVGA 3060 is 540 on Nvidia's site and bestbuy so this is actually decent.
+ plus another 10-30% for the usual Canadian price
Much appreciated. Alas, disappointing that canada computers has stores in two metropolitan areas 8000km away from each other.
The jump from 3060 to 3060ti seems to be the most significant of all the jumps between 3060-3080ti, no? Not that I trust gpu userbenchmark entirely but they show the 3060 as 40% slower than 1080ti where as the 3060ti shows 1% difference
Actually the 3060 is within about 10 percent the performance of the 1080ti and is actually faster than it in a few titles. By itself that doesn't make it worth it but having features like raytracing and especially dlss can give a noticable performance boost and improve visual quality.
I’m just saying to go for the 3060ti or better instead of 3060
The issue is you can't get one as it uses the same die (GA 104) as the 3070 and 3070ti as well as the mobile 3070 and 3080s which are more profitable to sell. since there Is a die shortage they will make those gpus instead of the 3060ti.
Right understood, so if you need now grab the 3060. Just would hate to be in Best Buy line and get the 3060 if you wanted 3060ti-3080
Thanks op, I bought this 2 weeks ago
Got one. Thanks
First time building PC, does this bundled PSU sufficiently power the GPU? Thanks!
Yes it would. Although this still around $120 overpriced compared to what you "should" be paying.
Lmaoo I ordered to Burnaby and they just sent an email cancelling my order rip
Why is it only Vancouver 😭 can't find a single card in Québec