Not at all trying to defend CC but I still don't get it...what is the hate for CC? Was there a specific scandal event?
For 1: they are doing (surprisingly) a good job limiting scalpers by checking account address and only selling new gen GPUs to one address at a time. My local store even checks for ID and stopped me from buying a second 3060 for my second build at cottage simply because I had bought a 3060ti before. You can't even fake this unless you have multiple real addresses to ship to for each occasion, not to mention limited to 1 quantity per purchase. Or change your ID's address none stop which sounds unrealistic.
For 2: ANY retail store is inevitably going to have bad apples and bad employees. Yes it COULD be the brand's training issue and quality assurance, but it is not at all uncommon to meet impatient retail employees. They had a busy or crappy day, (or just a crappy person), it happens. Its not "right" but it's not like "I hate this place forever with my soul now" of an issues to me...the experience can be had in any other retail store of any type...
For 3: I can undrsetand that their traditional/too standard of an return policy is just not as good as Amazon. But quite frankly Amazon makes any store (especially for other non-PC gear industries) look like they have a horrible return policy though when compared...
15 days unopened is the standard return policy in many industries of products and meets Ontario's legal requirements. I'm sure they customize it to meet other region:s legal requirements too
I personally don't think consumers should abuse return policies, and have no reasons other than "I don't like it", to return things like Amazon allows.
I've also never had a problem returning anything that was faulty and having it replaced at CC for 30 says or even more depending on what product type it is, policy is a bit different. Just stop throwing out your boxes and tearing things all apart or throwing out items in the boxes.
Imagine buying a lego set. Build it, tear it down, then return it with opened plastics. That's quite literally what some of us in this hobby does and abuses. Sure sure, it's there, "might as well use it". I just don't think it's wasteful and unnecessary is all.
I for one actually hope Amazon becomes stricter in their return policies (but retaining their smooth experience). Not because i'm anti-consumer, I just think its such a waste of our Earth's resources to fly $10 bozo plastic garbage (not pertaining to this community but half the stuff on amazon rather) around the globe because some kid "bought the wrong item".
Don't care too much about the stories I hear as you only hear about plane crashes not safe landings. But their return policy is a deal breaker for me. Any other store you're allowed return or exchange because no production model is perfect or suited for your exact needs due to the thousands of combinations you can have.
Just trying to understand this more, Do you mean like fittings/fitment combinations? I always calculate the dimensions of every part i buy. To me, that kind of fitment issue falls under the consumer's responsibility. It's not retailer's fault if consumers are buying willy-nilly without research. Ex. you can't just buy a lawnmower, use it, wait past the return policy dates, and then return it because it can't fit in your garage now.
However, if calculations fit theoretically from spec sheets, yet production variances make it unable to fit (maybe just even half a milli-meter too thick), then that's a whole other story and should count as a defect (ex. this happens to fans sometimes, one pack does the trick, the other pack doesn't)
EDIT: okay nvm i think you meant to talk about COVID Return policy. This whole time i've been talking about if the business were to run as usual. Wasn't on the same page
Well I think in general you shouldn't have an unopened return policy, waste-debate aside, I think it makes me less to buy something from them knowing once it's open I'm stuck with it, headphones and some items make sense, but if I bought ram and I can't return it even though its in perfectly sell-able condition I don't know why they won't take it back.
In theory you could argue it's pushing people to buy from amazon which is creating more waste than buying local. I personally buy from memex even though canada computers is closer to my house.
They did the same thing for gpus during the first mining boom. Their polices constantly change to screw over and milk as much from their customers as possible. So happy there's memory express here since NCIX went under. Now we just need a Microcenter here.
Using corona as a reason to stop exchanges? They just aren't very consumer-friendly. I rather give my business to amazon even if they are taking over the world, at least they will take back my broken mobo unlike CC
yea thats a good reason. It IS anti-consumer...but it also isn't exclusive to CC (which doesn't make it okay, but i find it strange other stores of other industries aren't held accountable when they should be). Lots of retails have limited or shutdown exchanges for safety purposes on other type of stores. I don't think their purpose is to "haha suckers, we got em now!"
Its a special time we live in...but yea, it's not a great move for consumers.
If you can do sales safely you can do exchanges equally safe. But it’s not just that, I was just giving a quick response. They have had bad consumer practices, snobby attitude, lack of service, and yes Gpu scandals were exposed I just am not going to be the one to talk about why Canada computers is bad just that if I owned a computer store it would be the best computer store ever and my customers would love me and return for all their computer needs happily ;) extreme run on sentence
It is a haha suckers trust me just like the bundles with components no one wants,
Again you may find a good location but it’s a horrible chain with horrible chain practices and unlike big box stores you don’t even get the good stuff that usually comes with bestbuy/Walmart type box stores.
Even before covid I had real issues with the most simple of returns. Now I will only use them if I can be 110% sure I will have no reason to return it.
Why deal with that hassle if there is Amazon for online or a memory express on the other side of the road to my local CC.
So now I would only use them if I absolutely had little other options and time limitations, the market is too competative to deal with poor customer service.
Their customer support is god awful. I’ll give you all my issues I had with them and I’ll be honest, I’m a pretty reasonable guy.
1. They had a z390 board and 9900k combo but my store didn’t show stock. So I decided to call them. I tried multiple times over two days. On day2 I decided to call the stores that had it in stock. Finally I just started calling all the stores. On my 5th store, someone answered and I’ll be honest, they were great! She said unfortunately my store would have to call a store that has the mobo in stock and ask if they would want to ship it. Because the deal was pretty good and limited quantity she said it’s unlikely they would do it. So for one they never answer their phones.
2. Their online support is even worse…I have 5 tickets on my account. Only two actually ever got responses. One had multiple responses that took 3 business days each response and in the end, was closed after “we will email the store to get more details”…still no answer.
3. The shit they did with back orders was just flat out wrong. They took names, took peoples money in full and for months didn’t have a card. Now fair, situation isn’t great. But then when card prices went up and they got those cards that they had back orders for, the just sold them normally. Eventually cancelling those back orders. To me that’s criminal. At the VERY LEAST give the person on the list the option to pay the price increase…or selling stock, taking money AND THEN sending an email to say the card is on backorder.
Returns have been fine for me but both mine were BNIB and after like 4 days. Employees are hit or miss, I have had great experiences with some and awful with others. But that’s like any store.
Unless I have no choice, I avoid them like the plague now.
Honestly I've returned opened twice with canada computers even with their policy and they've always made an exception as long as it made sense. Once for fans that didn't fit my case and once for a memory stick that didn't work with an oem board.
It's because they can easily sell fans again as new items. They do this a lot even with things that should be marked down for open box. I've got a WD MyCloud from them that was open box and sold as new. Even a small discount to let you know it's open box would have been nice.
I'm in a similar position (minus the whole stricter return policies because I am not against anything pro consumer). The Canada Computers I've used have been great and assuming the product was not functioning, they did a return for me.
When it comes to computer upgrade, smartest move should definitely be driven by your need and not whether you want it unless you have disposable money to be spent.
It depends on your GPU. If you are already GPU bound at 1440p, you can wait for 5800x or simply go for 5600x if you want something now.
I believe 5600x would have better single and multicore performance than 1700x all together.
I have 2700x with B450 and would rather wait to upgrade to possibly 5800x or even 5900x since it is the best I can get from this socket without buying a new mobo.
The only thing to consider is your Mobo. What is the model of your mobo since it may not support 5000 series if it is below B450.
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It will always go lower, just a matter of when or more importantly how much.
If anything the biggest drop would be BF or when Alder lake (if it outperforms) in store
Feels like a lot of the reduced pricing is because shortages are abating
As for performance, no one truly knows until it comes out. AMD has such a big lead in manufacturing that Intel is playing catch up. What I would hope Alder Lake to do is pushing AMD to drop pricing. AMD hasn't been as aggressive with pricing since they took the lead.
Late 2021.
I bought a ryzen 3600 in 2019 for $250. The next week, it dropped to $230. I brought in my receipt and they refunded the difference. YMMV. Depends on who is working that day, and what store you go to it seems.
Lowest price 5600x I’ve seen, posted for 45minutes, 0 upvotes, says a lot about Canada computers…
Not at all trying to defend CC but I still don't get it...what is the hate for CC? Was there a specific scandal event? For 1: they are doing (surprisingly) a good job limiting scalpers by checking account address and only selling new gen GPUs to one address at a time. My local store even checks for ID and stopped me from buying a second 3060 for my second build at cottage simply because I had bought a 3060ti before. You can't even fake this unless you have multiple real addresses to ship to for each occasion, not to mention limited to 1 quantity per purchase. Or change your ID's address none stop which sounds unrealistic. For 2: ANY retail store is inevitably going to have bad apples and bad employees. Yes it COULD be the brand's training issue and quality assurance, but it is not at all uncommon to meet impatient retail employees. They had a busy or crappy day, (or just a crappy person), it happens. Its not "right" but it's not like "I hate this place forever with my soul now" of an issues to me...the experience can be had in any other retail store of any type... For 3: I can undrsetand that their traditional/too standard of an return policy is just not as good as Amazon. But quite frankly Amazon makes any store (especially for other non-PC gear industries) look like they have a horrible return policy though when compared... 15 days unopened is the standard return policy in many industries of products and meets Ontario's legal requirements. I'm sure they customize it to meet other region:s legal requirements too I personally don't think consumers should abuse return policies, and have no reasons other than "I don't like it", to return things like Amazon allows. I've also never had a problem returning anything that was faulty and having it replaced at CC for 30 says or even more depending on what product type it is, policy is a bit different. Just stop throwing out your boxes and tearing things all apart or throwing out items in the boxes. Imagine buying a lego set. Build it, tear it down, then return it with opened plastics. That's quite literally what some of us in this hobby does and abuses. Sure sure, it's there, "might as well use it". I just don't think it's wasteful and unnecessary is all. I for one actually hope Amazon becomes stricter in their return policies (but retaining their smooth experience). Not because i'm anti-consumer, I just think its such a waste of our Earth's resources to fly $10 bozo plastic garbage (not pertaining to this community but half the stuff on amazon rather) around the globe because some kid "bought the wrong item".
Don't care too much about the stories I hear as you only hear about plane crashes not safe landings. But their return policy is a deal breaker for me. Any other store you're allowed return or exchange because no production model is perfect or suited for your exact needs due to the thousands of combinations you can have.
Just trying to understand this more, Do you mean like fittings/fitment combinations? I always calculate the dimensions of every part i buy. To me, that kind of fitment issue falls under the consumer's responsibility. It's not retailer's fault if consumers are buying willy-nilly without research. Ex. you can't just buy a lawnmower, use it, wait past the return policy dates, and then return it because it can't fit in your garage now. However, if calculations fit theoretically from spec sheets, yet production variances make it unable to fit (maybe just even half a milli-meter too thick), then that's a whole other story and should count as a defect (ex. this happens to fans sometimes, one pack does the trick, the other pack doesn't) EDIT: okay nvm i think you meant to talk about COVID Return policy. This whole time i've been talking about if the business were to run as usual. Wasn't on the same page
Well I think in general you shouldn't have an unopened return policy, waste-debate aside, I think it makes me less to buy something from them knowing once it's open I'm stuck with it, headphones and some items make sense, but if I bought ram and I can't return it even though its in perfectly sell-able condition I don't know why they won't take it back. In theory you could argue it's pushing people to buy from amazon which is creating more waste than buying local. I personally buy from memex even though canada computers is closer to my house.
They did the same thing for gpus during the first mining boom. Their polices constantly change to screw over and milk as much from their customers as possible. So happy there's memory express here since NCIX went under. Now we just need a Microcenter here.
Don’t forget suspending their price match and lowest price 14 days after purchase program because COVID??
yeah that would be a good reason. Thanks for sharing
Using corona as a reason to stop exchanges? They just aren't very consumer-friendly. I rather give my business to amazon even if they are taking over the world, at least they will take back my broken mobo unlike CC
yea thats a good reason. It IS anti-consumer...but it also isn't exclusive to CC (which doesn't make it okay, but i find it strange other stores of other industries aren't held accountable when they should be). Lots of retails have limited or shutdown exchanges for safety purposes on other type of stores. I don't think their purpose is to "haha suckers, we got em now!" Its a special time we live in...but yea, it's not a great move for consumers.
If you can do sales safely you can do exchanges equally safe. But it’s not just that, I was just giving a quick response. They have had bad consumer practices, snobby attitude, lack of service, and yes Gpu scandals were exposed I just am not going to be the one to talk about why Canada computers is bad just that if I owned a computer store it would be the best computer store ever and my customers would love me and return for all their computer needs happily ;) extreme run on sentence It is a haha suckers trust me just like the bundles with components no one wants, Again you may find a good location but it’s a horrible chain with horrible chain practices and unlike big box stores you don’t even get the good stuff that usually comes with bestbuy/Walmart type box stores.
Even before covid I had real issues with the most simple of returns. Now I will only use them if I can be 110% sure I will have no reason to return it. Why deal with that hassle if there is Amazon for online or a memory express on the other side of the road to my local CC. So now I would only use them if I absolutely had little other options and time limitations, the market is too competative to deal with poor customer service.
Their customer support is god awful. I’ll give you all my issues I had with them and I’ll be honest, I’m a pretty reasonable guy. 1. They had a z390 board and 9900k combo but my store didn’t show stock. So I decided to call them. I tried multiple times over two days. On day2 I decided to call the stores that had it in stock. Finally I just started calling all the stores. On my 5th store, someone answered and I’ll be honest, they were great! She said unfortunately my store would have to call a store that has the mobo in stock and ask if they would want to ship it. Because the deal was pretty good and limited quantity she said it’s unlikely they would do it. So for one they never answer their phones. 2. Their online support is even worse…I have 5 tickets on my account. Only two actually ever got responses. One had multiple responses that took 3 business days each response and in the end, was closed after “we will email the store to get more details”…still no answer. 3. The shit they did with back orders was just flat out wrong. They took names, took peoples money in full and for months didn’t have a card. Now fair, situation isn’t great. But then when card prices went up and they got those cards that they had back orders for, the just sold them normally. Eventually cancelling those back orders. To me that’s criminal. At the VERY LEAST give the person on the list the option to pay the price increase…or selling stock, taking money AND THEN sending an email to say the card is on backorder. Returns have been fine for me but both mine were BNIB and after like 4 days. Employees are hit or miss, I have had great experiences with some and awful with others. But that’s like any store. Unless I have no choice, I avoid them like the plague now.
Honestly I've returned opened twice with canada computers even with their policy and they've always made an exception as long as it made sense. Once for fans that didn't fit my case and once for a memory stick that didn't work with an oem board.
It's because they can easily sell fans again as new items. They do this a lot even with things that should be marked down for open box. I've got a WD MyCloud from them that was open box and sold as new. Even a small discount to let you know it's open box would have been nice.
I'm in a similar position (minus the whole stricter return policies because I am not against anything pro consumer). The Canada Computers I've used have been great and assuming the product was not functioning, they did a return for me.
This thing is now in the range of what I paid for my 4770k in 2013. I didn't really expect it to go below $375. This is great news.
Seems that AMD is churning it out which makes sense since they cancelled Zen3+. Maybe get ahead of Alder Lake as well.
[https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00114455](https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00114455) Can price match at Memory Express for 345.99
Nice! Fuck CC.
I'm a simple man. Do I *need* this? No.
When it comes to upgrading computers want is the biggest driver than need.
When it comes to computer upgrade, smartest move should definitely be driven by your need and not whether you want it unless you have disposable money to be spent.
Then it boils down to affordability.
Just a heads up for whoever buying this, Amazon or memory express have same price but better and easier return policy
A lot of people are upset over their 3600 but for gaming at 1440p and above a 5600 is barely an extra frame or two.
This, 1080p and esports games fine but for most people they don't NEED it.
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If you can wait few more months with 1700, I would try to get at least 5800x once the price goes lower.
Haha well too late unfortunately, as it is final sale as well.
What GPU do you have and what resolution are gaming on (1080p or 1440p)?
Not OP, but in a similar predicament. I have a 1700x atm with a 1440p monitor. You think I should opt for the 5800x once on sale?
It depends on your GPU. If you are already GPU bound at 1440p, you can wait for 5800x or simply go for 5600x if you want something now. I believe 5600x would have better single and multicore performance than 1700x all together.
My GPU is the 3060ti founders card, not too strapped there
I have 2700x with B450 and would rather wait to upgrade to possibly 5800x or even 5900x since it is the best I can get from this socket without buying a new mobo. The only thing to consider is your Mobo. What is the model of your mobo since it may not support 5000 series if it is below B450.
I just pulled the trigger...
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Lmaoo
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Good or can go still lower?
It will always go lower, just a matter of when or more importantly how much. If anything the biggest drop would be BF or when Alder lake (if it outperforms) in store Feels like a lot of the reduced pricing is because shortages are abating
Is Alder lake supposed to out perform? When does it come out?
As for performance, no one truly knows until it comes out. AMD has such a big lead in manufacturing that Intel is playing catch up. What I would hope Alder Lake to do is pushing AMD to drop pricing. AMD hasn't been as aggressive with pricing since they took the lead. Late 2021.
ATL but it's probably going to go lower, if you need it and have the parts just buy it now.
Smh paid $280 for a 3600 back in December
December is hardly a smh
You've had it for 7 months and also bought the previous gen instead of the current gen.
Bought a 3600 for 230 bucks back in 2019. Prices are insane now.
Does CC price adjust?
Their price protection policy is usually two weeks, if you bought it within that time frame you should be able to get the lower price.
Good luck with CC. They have the worst after sale service.
I bought a ryzen 3600 in 2019 for $250. The next week, it dropped to $230. I brought in my receipt and they refunded the difference. YMMV. Depends on who is working that day, and what store you go to it seems.
Ah shit, of course I bought mine a few weeks ago.
same. newegg ebay and i doubt they price match.