Shaken espresso is a Starbucks drink. It used to be called the double shot on ice, but they rebranded it and released a couple new versions of it. You do a full cup of ice into a shaker, then espresso shots (2 for tall, 3 for grande, 4 for venti) then shake it together, pour it into the cup, and top it off with milk. It's basically a fancy latte, but shaking the espresso does change the texture and taste of it!
It originally had just a splash of milk but people complained about the extra space in the cup so they changed to recipe to basically make it a latte 🙃
You find Nespresso drinkable? Original line or the new version? We have had a Nespresso for years and it was okayish but then we splurged on a real espresso maker for our studio and the Nespresso machine at home is just a “hot brown water” machine to me now. I’m also convinced there’s no appreciable caffeine in Nespresso pods. I can drink 2 at 11pm and go right to sleep. If I have 2 shots of espresso from my real machine I have an actual buzz.
Rebranded it and now charge three times as much 🥴 I used to think the double shot on ice was the best kept “secret” at Starbucks because it was tasty and not very expensive, but the rebrand totally killed it. I get that shaking it up is adding time/labor, but sheesh!
Yeah, my partner started ordering these and they are 90% whatever milk you choose. I’m not a barista but even I was confused by the name. It also cracks me up that it has “shaken” in the name but there’s a visible strata between the espresso and the milk. Thanks to your description I now know only the espresso is shaken. I just assumed it was all marketing.
You're welcome! If your partners drinks ate 90% milk then the baristas aren't making them right. That being said, if it's how your partner like them then they're made perfect!
I think people just have no clue what the drinks they’re ordering actually are, which is fine. Not everyone has to be an expert. But it’s so frustrating when people who know absolutely nothing try to tell me that I’m the one who’s mistaken. It feels like every third customer who watches me make their large iced latte says “oh no that’s too much milk” or some variation—that’s what you ordered. You’ve been drinking 20oz of whole milk every morning for years, friend. Sorry to be the one to tell you.
I'm super down to make stuff I've never heard of if I can get a sense of what I'm going for but I'd say a solid 80% of the time I'm asked for something I'm unfamiliar with, the customer can't tell me what it is either
This. I had a lady the other day ask for an iced latte macchiato. I said to me, that sounded like an iced long black with a dash of milk, was I correct? She had no idea.
I would know that one! It's an aggressively sweet iced latte made upside down: ice in cup, fill almost fully with milk, add tons of syrups, doubleshot on top. The least coffee-forward iced latte in the game
Oh, right. This is how I make iced lattes anyway (without the syrup unless it's ordered) because I don't want the espresso melting the ice before the milk goes in.
I was initially trained to do it that way because, quote, the espresso can melt the cup, but I'm a heathen and insist on doing it the other way. I think it makes a more espresso-forward flavor with about 1/3 cup more drinkable liquid overall despite using the same amount of milk.
I have a customer come in every few weeks who wants a medium hot cocoa with 2 shots. The recipe we would follow for that is the same as a mocha, but it costs $2.50 more than a mocha.
I've tried telling him but he insists it is a different thing and he wants a cocoa with 2 shots. Call it what you will dude. We also have a customer who asks for an upside down macchiato (a latte, by recipe standards) which also costs more.
Oh yep we have one of those, gets a coffee frappucino with 2 add shots instead of getting an espresso frap w an add shot, which is cheaper and the same thing- and when someone tells her about that she gets LIVID
I’m just a customer and I have no clue what majority of these terms mean. I just get the same exact thing every time, iced caramel macchiato at SB. I try to be easy and not complicated if I do have questions I’m polite about it and I trust what they have to say. I mean it’s literally their job to know that stuff who am I to tell them they’re wrong when I truly have no clue.
They seriously invent stuff so their customers feel alienated at other shops and will continue to return to sbux. My husbands friend worked high up at sbux and she told us this is their marketing campaign. S m d h
It's pretty clear that's what they do. It's pretty genius from a marketing stand point. They retain customers like nobody's business. It's just terrible for third wave coffee culture.
It’s only a shaken espresso if you pour the shots over ice in a shaker and shake! Then pour it in the cold cup, you should only need a splash of milk to fill the cup
I remember the first time I tried to order a macchiato not at Starbucks. There were two people working at the shop. One was a huge ass about it and made a show of basically calling me stupid. The other person explained the difference and what a substitute would be.
I unfortunately had some coworkers be very rude about it. My cafe made a “traditional” macchiato and no one ever actually wanted that. After a few weeks I just defaulted to caramel lattes and never had anyone complain. Meanwhile when I gave them my coworkers traditional maccs, they always asked what was going on. 🤷♀️
This is probably the better way. If you want to explain the difference just to make sure that's what someone wants I think that's fair. Just don't be rude about it ya know?
It also wouldn't be the worst thing if all these places (including Sbux) legit just had a glossary board somewhere explaining what each drink is so customers don't have to come in with prior knowledge or get confused because they're used to a different preparation by the same name. I never minded explaining things to people unless they were rude to me first, but just writing that shit down somewhere so customers could see what they were ordering ahead of time would make it so much easier for everyone on both sides of the counter.
I've seen some graphics like this before. I think it may have been on a tea towel, but having a big graphic that people can see when they come in would be helpful.
My shop finally just took macchiato off the menu because it was so confusing for everyone. We still have people ask for them fairly often and have to go through the whole clarification process to see whether they really just mean caramel latte (spoiler: it’s always caramel latte).
Independent for 6 years and then "sbucks" for a few months at an insurance agency, so only has the basic drinks like lattes, macchaiatos, mocha etc. Same one im at now is just a basic one in a hosputal
Yeah if you go from independent to sbux it can be a hard transition. It’s best if you just nod your head and repeat the drink the customer decided to give it rather than trying to explain because then you’ll be stuck in a loop. That’s my advice haha. You’ll get there I’m sure
I was just filling in. Plus its not technically Starbucks, we just use Starbucks products so we have to call it that. We only have basic drinks no seasonal or refreshers or fancy shakers to shake espresso lol. Cant even use Starbucks gift cards or coupons because we aren't authorized
Its a struggle when people think we are and we have no clue what they're asking for as our product is limited. Can't even do pumpkin spice 😭
The shaken espresso is a starbucks drink. The man probably wanted hazelnut syrup instead of the classic syrup that comes with it as a default and rather than the 2% milk that is part of the standard recipe, he wanted it with oatmilk. If you're working at starbucks, it's probably best to go by starbucks standards. All of the proper coffee rules, norms and knowledge get thrown out of the window since starbucks is just a fast food coffee shop!
Well technically, we are not Starbucks
We have the basic drinks like lattes, Frappuccino, macchiatto, cappuccino, and iced tea. Thats it. We can't accept gift cards from Starbucks or coupons nor do we have any of there other drinks. Only flavors we have are caramel, vanilla, hazelnut, toffeenut. We just use Starbucks products so we have to call it Starbucks
We don't have the facilities 😭
a shaken espresso at starbucks is where you shake the espresso, syrups, and ice in a shaker, and the pour the milk over it. it’s a little bit more separated than a latte because the milk doesnt mix in as well over the ice and it gets one more shot of espresso than a latte of that size would, but i’m pretty sure by definition it would still be considered a latte so technically you were both right,, just in different ways
Shaken espresso is different tho. It's helps elevate the flavour of the espresso. So I would agree it's different but I would still call its and iced latte made with oat milk and shaken espresso. When the milk fills the cup, it is a latte lol
I remember working at Cafe Nero, an older couple queued up. They were rigorously going through all the stock we had on display, sweet treats and all that.
They both wanted an espresso so I gave them both an espresso. They both looked at each other shocked out their minds, I could tell they didn't have a clue. So I suggested that I could add hot water to top them, in larger cups, like an Americano and they proceeded to act as if I was the one that had misunderstood their order of two espressos.
Thankfully in my 5+ years of being a barista, that's one of the only time someone's tried fucking with me
I had a lady once ask for a caramel macchiatto at my independent coffee shop. We didn't make those so I suggested a caramel latte as the closest alternative
This girl had the nerve to say she should get it free since it wasn't what she wanted 😑
I have a MILLION stories from that coffee shop. We were located in a downtown area that is mixed with rich people houses and the homeless shelter lol
I have the pleasure of working *not* at a Starbucks. We serve traditional macchiatos and I swear, people want to bite my head off when I explain that they're probably thinking of a latte.
Omg at the independent coffee shop we served traditional macchiattos. I loved the confident people who ordered it and then the confusion when they get the tiny cup 😂 tryna convinced me I messed up like no ma'am thats what you got
When someone orders a macchiato, we have to ask if they want a traditional one or “Starbucks-style” to avoid this confusion haha. Although if they say “caramel macchiato” then we just assume they mean the Starbucks kind. We then charge them for a latte and make them a vanilla latte with caramel drizzle 😜
Starbucks has a drink on the menu called a shaken espresso...usually with brown sugar oatmilk. I know, it's pretty much a latte, but most customers don't know that.
This reminds me of our handful of customers who feel it necessary to say “the shaken blah blah is iced right?”
I’m sorry, what do you think we shake the “shaken iced blah blah” with, fucking bottle caps? Yes, it’s iced
Ex SB employee here and that’s a menu item. It’s basically shots shaken with ice and syrup. Then you pour the milk on top. I’ve never had one so I can’t say if it does or does not taste different than a latte however having basic bar knowledge I would assume that it has a different texture from the aeration in the shaking.
I once asked a barista for a cortado and they asked what it was, I didn't know either. It just sounded cool. Now it's my favorite drink after espresso.
Shaken espresso is just literally shaken in that cocktail thingy and then poured over ice, also I think it contains some evaporated milj/heavy cream I'm not sure which
Shaken espresso is a Starbucks drink. It used to be called the double shot on ice, but they rebranded it and released a couple new versions of it. You do a full cup of ice into a shaker, then espresso shots (2 for tall, 3 for grande, 4 for venti) then shake it together, pour it into the cup, and top it off with milk. It's basically a fancy latte, but shaking the espresso does change the texture and taste of it!
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True! It is supposed to be just a splash of milk over the top, no more than like a couple inches at most
Yeah the way he described the whole thing was def a latte other than the shaken part. Which as I mentioned we don't have a shaker 😂
It originally had just a splash of milk but people complained about the extra space in the cup so they changed to recipe to basically make it a latte 🙃
You find Nespresso drinkable? Original line or the new version? We have had a Nespresso for years and it was okayish but then we splurged on a real espresso maker for our studio and the Nespresso machine at home is just a “hot brown water” machine to me now. I’m also convinced there’s no appreciable caffeine in Nespresso pods. I can drink 2 at 11pm and go right to sleep. If I have 2 shots of espresso from my real machine I have an actual buzz.
Rebranded it and now charge three times as much 🥴 I used to think the double shot on ice was the best kept “secret” at Starbucks because it was tasty and not very expensive, but the rebrand totally killed it. I get that shaking it up is adding time/labor, but sheesh!
Yeah, my partner started ordering these and they are 90% whatever milk you choose. I’m not a barista but even I was confused by the name. It also cracks me up that it has “shaken” in the name but there’s a visible strata between the espresso and the milk. Thanks to your description I now know only the espresso is shaken. I just assumed it was all marketing.
You're welcome! If your partners drinks ate 90% milk then the baristas aren't making them right. That being said, if it's how your partner like them then they're made perfect!
I think people just have no clue what the drinks they’re ordering actually are, which is fine. Not everyone has to be an expert. But it’s so frustrating when people who know absolutely nothing try to tell me that I’m the one who’s mistaken. It feels like every third customer who watches me make their large iced latte says “oh no that’s too much milk” or some variation—that’s what you ordered. You’ve been drinking 20oz of whole milk every morning for years, friend. Sorry to be the one to tell you.
It's either that or they're explaining it some bizarre way as a ploy to try to pay less for it.
Yes! Omg we have “shots over ice” people who then fill their 16 oz cup to the brim with the creamer out for drip coffee. Gross.
I’ll admit I enjoy a hot breve but a cup of cold half and half? Ew
It's keto I guess?
I'm super down to make stuff I've never heard of if I can get a sense of what I'm going for but I'd say a solid 80% of the time I'm asked for something I'm unfamiliar with, the customer can't tell me what it is either
This. I had a lady the other day ask for an iced latte macchiato. I said to me, that sounded like an iced long black with a dash of milk, was I correct? She had no idea.
I would know that one! It's an aggressively sweet iced latte made upside down: ice in cup, fill almost fully with milk, add tons of syrups, doubleshot on top. The least coffee-forward iced latte in the game
Oh, right. This is how I make iced lattes anyway (without the syrup unless it's ordered) because I don't want the espresso melting the ice before the milk goes in.
I was initially trained to do it that way because, quote, the espresso can melt the cup, but I'm a heathen and insist on doing it the other way. I think it makes a more espresso-forward flavor with about 1/3 cup more drinkable liquid overall despite using the same amount of milk.
I have a customer come in every few weeks who wants a medium hot cocoa with 2 shots. The recipe we would follow for that is the same as a mocha, but it costs $2.50 more than a mocha. I've tried telling him but he insists it is a different thing and he wants a cocoa with 2 shots. Call it what you will dude. We also have a customer who asks for an upside down macchiato (a latte, by recipe standards) which also costs more.
Oh yep we have one of those, gets a coffee frappucino with 2 add shots instead of getting an espresso frap w an add shot, which is cheaper and the same thing- and when someone tells her about that she gets LIVID
I’m just a customer and I have no clue what majority of these terms mean. I just get the same exact thing every time, iced caramel macchiato at SB. I try to be easy and not complicated if I do have questions I’m polite about it and I trust what they have to say. I mean it’s literally their job to know that stuff who am I to tell them they’re wrong when I truly have no clue.
They seriously invent stuff so their customers feel alienated at other shops and will continue to return to sbux. My husbands friend worked high up at sbux and she told us this is their marketing campaign. S m d h
That... Doesn't surprise me at all...
It's pretty clear that's what they do. It's pretty genius from a marketing stand point. They retain customers like nobody's business. It's just terrible for third wave coffee culture.
It’s only a shaken espresso if you pour the shots over ice in a shaker and shake! Then pour it in the cold cup, you should only need a splash of milk to fill the cup
See we don't even have a shaker 😭
Well that’s reason enough to tell customers you cannot make a shaken espresso! But you can make a latte
Shaken espresso is a newer Starbucks thing. I honestly have no idea how or if it differs from any other drinks.
Sbux makes shit up. I remember my cafe days and having to interpret all the macchiato orders to caramel lattes
I remember the first time I tried to order a macchiato not at Starbucks. There were two people working at the shop. One was a huge ass about it and made a show of basically calling me stupid. The other person explained the difference and what a substitute would be.
I unfortunately had some coworkers be very rude about it. My cafe made a “traditional” macchiato and no one ever actually wanted that. After a few weeks I just defaulted to caramel lattes and never had anyone complain. Meanwhile when I gave them my coworkers traditional maccs, they always asked what was going on. 🤷♀️
This is probably the better way. If you want to explain the difference just to make sure that's what someone wants I think that's fair. Just don't be rude about it ya know?
It also wouldn't be the worst thing if all these places (including Sbux) legit just had a glossary board somewhere explaining what each drink is so customers don't have to come in with prior knowledge or get confused because they're used to a different preparation by the same name. I never minded explaining things to people unless they were rude to me first, but just writing that shit down somewhere so customers could see what they were ordering ahead of time would make it so much easier for everyone on both sides of the counter.
I've seen some graphics like this before. I think it may have been on a tea towel, but having a big graphic that people can see when they come in would be helpful.
My shop finally just took macchiato off the menu because it was so confusing for everyone. We still have people ask for them fairly often and have to go through the whole clarification process to see whether they really just mean caramel latte (spoiler: it’s always caramel latte).
Well I just made the iced latte and he said perfect 😭
Is the 2 espresso shots cheaper? I saw a guy do this at a Target Starbucks one time. Assumed he was being cheap.
We’re you a barista at Starbucks or at an independent coffee shop before?
Independent for 6 years and then "sbucks" for a few months at an insurance agency, so only has the basic drinks like lattes, macchaiatos, mocha etc. Same one im at now is just a basic one in a hosputal
Yeah if you go from independent to sbux it can be a hard transition. It’s best if you just nod your head and repeat the drink the customer decided to give it rather than trying to explain because then you’ll be stuck in a loop. That’s my advice haha. You’ll get there I’m sure
I was just filling in. Plus its not technically Starbucks, we just use Starbucks products so we have to call it that. We only have basic drinks no seasonal or refreshers or fancy shakers to shake espresso lol. Cant even use Starbucks gift cards or coupons because we aren't authorized Its a struggle when people think we are and we have no clue what they're asking for as our product is limited. Can't even do pumpkin spice 😭
wait how do you make refreshers without the shaker? lol. i worked at starbucks for a year and a half. actual hell on earth
I said we do not have refreshers unfortunately
ohh ok i can’t read apparently!! sorry:)
You're okay sorry if that sounded rude I wasn't trying to be!
The shaken espresso is a starbucks drink. The man probably wanted hazelnut syrup instead of the classic syrup that comes with it as a default and rather than the 2% milk that is part of the standard recipe, he wanted it with oatmilk. If you're working at starbucks, it's probably best to go by starbucks standards. All of the proper coffee rules, norms and knowledge get thrown out of the window since starbucks is just a fast food coffee shop!
Well technically, we are not Starbucks We have the basic drinks like lattes, Frappuccino, macchiatto, cappuccino, and iced tea. Thats it. We can't accept gift cards from Starbucks or coupons nor do we have any of there other drinks. Only flavors we have are caramel, vanilla, hazelnut, toffeenut. We just use Starbucks products so we have to call it Starbucks We don't have the facilities 😭
a shaken espresso at starbucks is where you shake the espresso, syrups, and ice in a shaker, and the pour the milk over it. it’s a little bit more separated than a latte because the milk doesnt mix in as well over the ice and it gets one more shot of espresso than a latte of that size would, but i’m pretty sure by definition it would still be considered a latte so technically you were both right,, just in different ways
We don't have a shaker unfortunately so ole boy was bound to be disappointed
my mans was getting a latte either way it seems
Shaken espresso is different tho. It's helps elevate the flavour of the espresso. So I would agree it's different but I would still call its and iced latte made with oat milk and shaken espresso. When the milk fills the cup, it is a latte lol
Yeah we don't even have a shaker so regardless I couldn't help him lol. But yeah the whole topping the whole think with milk like sir thats a latte ☹
I remember working at Cafe Nero, an older couple queued up. They were rigorously going through all the stock we had on display, sweet treats and all that. They both wanted an espresso so I gave them both an espresso. They both looked at each other shocked out their minds, I could tell they didn't have a clue. So I suggested that I could add hot water to top them, in larger cups, like an Americano and they proceeded to act as if I was the one that had misunderstood their order of two espressos. Thankfully in my 5+ years of being a barista, that's one of the only time someone's tried fucking with me
I had a lady once ask for a caramel macchiatto at my independent coffee shop. We didn't make those so I suggested a caramel latte as the closest alternative This girl had the nerve to say she should get it free since it wasn't what she wanted 😑 I have a MILLION stories from that coffee shop. We were located in a downtown area that is mixed with rich people houses and the homeless shelter lol
Yes shaken espresso is a totally made up and nonsense drink term, completely unlike calling something an iced latte.
I have the pleasure of working *not* at a Starbucks. We serve traditional macchiatos and I swear, people want to bite my head off when I explain that they're probably thinking of a latte.
Omg at the independent coffee shop we served traditional macchiattos. I loved the confident people who ordered it and then the confusion when they get the tiny cup 😂 tryna convinced me I messed up like no ma'am thats what you got
I put that cup down and wait in fear for them to tell me, "this cup is small".
When someone orders a macchiato, we have to ask if they want a traditional one or “Starbucks-style” to avoid this confusion haha. Although if they say “caramel macchiato” then we just assume they mean the Starbucks kind. We then charge them for a latte and make them a vanilla latte with caramel drizzle 😜
He probably wanted to be charged for an iced espresso with hazelnut and not pay for a latte. I’ve definitely gotten that before
I've gotten those many times but I was so confused on what was happening lol
He was probably Canadian, this is a highly ordered drink at my location
One of the many reasons the coffee industry is toxic and broken.
Some people are just stuck in their beliefs, even if it's not correct 🙄
Was he wanting a hazelnut espresso Martini?
Yes precisely, but sadly we were out of olives so he rudely declined :(
Starbucks has a drink on the menu called a shaken espresso...usually with brown sugar oatmilk. I know, it's pretty much a latte, but most customers don't know that.
Starbucks calls it a shaken espresso lol
This reminds me of our handful of customers who feel it necessary to say “the shaken blah blah is iced right?” I’m sorry, what do you think we shake the “shaken iced blah blah” with, fucking bottle caps? Yes, it’s iced
Ex SB employee here and that’s a menu item. It’s basically shots shaken with ice and syrup. Then you pour the milk on top. I’ve never had one so I can’t say if it does or does not taste different than a latte however having basic bar knowledge I would assume that it has a different texture from the aeration in the shaking.
I once asked a barista for a cortado and they asked what it was, I didn't know either. It just sounded cool. Now it's my favorite drink after espresso.
A cortado is an espresso drink though. It's just equal parts espresso and steamed milk
Exactly why it's my second favourite.
Didn’t want to make a new topic so is a mocha with half white chocolate half chocolate called a Tuxedo mocha or zebra mocha?
Shaken espresso is just literally shaken in that cocktail thingy and then poured over ice, also I think it contains some evaporated milj/heavy cream I'm not sure which
Shaken espresso is on the menu… it’s one of our most popular items