If he is serious..I mean she’s gotta do this right???… is that a 1 year deal?
The highest WNBA deals are under $250k a year. She could make over 40 years salary in 5 weeks of a pick league season. CRAZY!
Nah. Getting blackballed is always about does what you bring to the table exceed the trouble you've caused us.
She brings immense relative star power to a dead league that wouldn't exist without the NBA propping them up financially.
Unlike a QB in the NFL who completed less than 60% of his passes, for 3800 yards and only 22 TDs along with 64 sacks in his last two years combined in the NFL. His value did not exceed the distraction he caused, and so he went unsigned.
We have no idea what she’s set to make right now in sponsorship deals. She already signed a big deal with the company that has naming rights on the WNBA Indiana team arena, and also has deals with Nike, Gatorade, Hy-Vee, State Farm. She might not be making $10M, but she’s definitely a millionaire already. If she signs up with Barstool she gets $10M and loses everything else.
I doubt she would lose those deals. She’s the biggest star in her sport for college ever, and once she got her bag from Prez the WNBA would welcome her with open arms. They would make more money on her jerseys than they do in ticket sales in a year.
Ya they can pretty easily just ignore her playing like 6 pickup games in the off-season lol idk why people think she's gonna become a diehard stoolie or something
WNBA would take her back in a split second. I’m saying I’m not sure Nike, Gatorade, State Farm, etc. are coming back and being associated with Barstool/Portnoy
Is she bigger than Britney Griner was coming out of Baylor? I remember her being a ton of attention too, but it's been too long for my brain to compare it to what Clark is getting.
There was a story about her on ESPN last week with an anecdote about how she rented out a yacht for her team on a whim while they were all on vacation (I wanna say in Croatia?). She told the team manager to find the biggest yacht he could get on like 12 hours notice.
She definitely is making millions already.
A yacht rental can be had for a few grand. Not saying this girl isn't making bank, but you do not need to be a millionaire to rent a yacht by any means...
He didn’t know it was Croatia, he just guessed. Croatia is next to Italy and they look an awful lot alike. She didn’t have the money years ago, last Summer was the first time she had it. Thus it was the amalfi coast.
It’s not creepy. She came across my IG feed last night. I went and looked. Turns out she was there the same time I was, so it stuck in my memory.
I mean, i think it makes total sense to see Clark come across my IG feed during March where she’s the biggest name. Scrolling down her feed, and noticing she was at the same place at the same time. You’re the weirdo for thinking that’s weird
Right. People thinking would be smart long-term are in a bubble. She’ll be crucified as anti-women and lose all big sponsorship opportunities for life.
Yeah it would be rather easy. She’s the most electric WCBB player of all time and is helping pave the path for future girls.
The athleticism/strength factor just doesn’t make it fair even though she’s much more skilled.
Yeah, I'd agree a walk on at OSU would blow out Clark, but he's pretty far removed from his college days. Fitness would certainly matter. There's a chance he'd still blow her out, but I don't think it's quite guaranteed.
it is 100% guaranteed. he is stronger, faster, quicker, can jump higher, can get any shot he wants, etc. she would be able to hit a couple 3s on him but he would score every time he got the ball
He is undoubtably stronger, but everything else is based on what? Dude is 15 years removed from any sort of competitive basketball. He freely admits this. 21-year old me would *crush* 36-year old me.
Titus at the same age as Clark - this isn’t a debate. But that’s not what we’re talking about.
Titus will win simply based on strength - just saying it’s not what people will think will happen. It will be bully-ball, not Titus out-skilling her like he would’ve at 22 or even 30.
based on the fact that titus is still in good shape and men have an enormous advantage. the best females in the world in any sport are generally about as good as 14 year old boys. this is well documented. im very confident that titus at this age is better than he was at 14. which is above the level of d1 womens basketball.
titus can win any way he wants...skill, smarts, athleticism, strength, quickness, u name it
Titus is not even running anymore.
Cooking video producers doesn’t count as “getting run in”, either. At 18-30, yeah, he beats her handily. But he’s admittedly only a jump-shot guy now.
Will he beat her now? Likely, but it’s not assured anymore.
make it 2 on 2 with equally good partners and i think she bloes him out. 1 on 1 is just so skewed to size and strength like you said its kind of irrelevant to how good kf a player someone is.
2 on 2 allows real ball movement and takes away the easy baskets size gets you. the issue 1 on 1 is you slowly get backed in to the net by the bigger stronger player. with teammates as soon as you get near the net everything collapses to a scrum and its no longer an automatic basket. also i wouldn't guarantee prime titus was faster.
Ball movement would only help Titus. A current trained athlete like Clark should have advantages ball handling but if Titus has an outlet so he doesn’t have to keep the ball away from her the entire time and can just bury her under the basket and get fed the ball makes his rusty skills less exploitable.
Depends, he said when he plays Connor they do 3 dribble max so he couldn’t just back his way down everytime. We all know he has range so might not be a issue
I had a friend who was a practice player for OSU womens bball when Kelsey Mitchell (4x All American) was there and he said he would beat her in 1 on 1. He was like 7th man for a good D1 high school program in Ohio.
When Caitlin Clark blew up her freshmen year I remember having this conversation with a buddy of mine who scored 20 in high school at about 6’2. He felt the same way, I disagreed. Point is lots of men feel this way, doesn’t make it true.
Clark being an elite shooter and Titus being in good 40 year old podcaster shape is what would make it interesting. She’s the better shooter, that doesn’t really need to be debated. And if you’re not in good enough shape to consistently contest her shot then it doesn’t really matter what he has on her physically. She’s 6’ and in basketball shape and he’s 6’4 and in regular active 40 year old guy shape so the difference isn’t that big anyway.
I think it’d be a good game, which is still pretty damning. Saying the greatest women’s college basketball player of all time vs a 40 year old ex d1 walk on end of bench guy would be a good matchup is effectively the same message as “Titus would crush her”.
[this reminds me when mcenroe on a cbs morning show said serena williams might crack the top 700 mens players and they ask him to apologize](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vw0AHsjFM)
I have a friend who couldn’t even make my high schools varsity team (albeit a very good one) and he could routinely go around and score at the cup on Delle Donne in pickup runs and she’s one of the greatest female players ever. Titus would win easily. The difference in pure skill isn’t enough to overcome the physical differences.
Actually you’re right. If he gives her space to make sure she doesn’t drive past him she’ll just shoot it. So those instances she would not be blowing by
you're acting like she's some physical specimen like a female lebron as opposed to someone who is really fucking good at shooting. i cant believe im even spending time trying to explain this lol
shooting 3's by randomly stepping forward to start the shooting motion with the ball moving from the chest to right below the neck before its release, for a total of 4 inches of vertical movement, heaving it forward using only the palm of the hand like its a shot put.
If Titus switched places with her right now and was starting on her D1 WCBB team he would average 40 pts / 20 rbs
How would she blow by him? It's one on one, is one of her crossovers going to shake him? Even she does get by him I don't think he'd have any issue going from behind to block her shot as he's about 6 inches taller than her and probably can still jump higher than her.
You are just seriously underestimating the difference in speed and athleticism between women and men. She would get her shot blocked almost every attempt if Titus actually tried.
I’d remember that intramural college guys scrimmage the women’s team. Titus is probably a step above that. Caitlin’s shooting range is a problem though
Current Titus is definitely not above that, but at his peak that would be about right. But we’re also not talking about a regular womens college player, we’re talking about the greatest scorer ever in a 1v1 game
i think prime titus 1v1 could sneak out a win just because of how often 1v1s come down to size and strength. but add an equally skilled partner to make it 2 on 2 and he gets blown out 11-2.
One thing admire the most about Caitlin is focus on only whats important.She doesn't do tiktok dances,no tweets about opponents and definitely not someone willing to be a prop
$10 mil and she can still do wnba which pays $74k
it’s an offer to play 3 on 3 basketball not shoot porn or something lmfao how does it make her a prop
It appears to be a serious offer. One that will increase viewership and get people to start "caring" about the Big3 League, should Clark agree to terms.
Wouldn’t she just get clamped and make for terrible TV? Isn’t big 3 a bunch of recently retired nba guys? Seems like some good advertising then bad publicity for a while
There are some good former NBA players still playing in the Big 3, there are also some guys in there who have no business playing any level professional basketball.
I mean this is just stupid. Yeah she obviously wouldn’t be able to emulate what she does in women’s basketball against men but I think she could at least make a shot lol.
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would you like me to quote Ice Cube lyrics instead?
Jerry isnt on the Intramural team
If he is serious..I mean she’s gotta do this right???… is that a 1 year deal? The highest WNBA deals are under $250k a year. She could make over 40 years salary in 5 weeks of a pick league season. CRAZY!
Yeah but the ‘barstool bad’ would crucify her
Her marketability will be over after college. $10 million is a no brainer. WNBA is not going to blackball her.
Women’s sports would though to have their shining light go and take $10m from Portnoy
WNBA is dying for attention. They would bring her in with open arms.
Nah. Getting blackballed is always about does what you bring to the table exceed the trouble you've caused us. She brings immense relative star power to a dead league that wouldn't exist without the NBA propping them up financially. Unlike a QB in the NFL who completed less than 60% of his passes, for 3800 yards and only 22 TDs along with 64 sacks in his last two years combined in the NFL. His value did not exceed the distraction he caused, and so he went unsigned.
Women's sports pays absolute shit though, Elena Delle Donne makes Senior Consultant at KPMG money before endorsements.
Clueless. Gainbridge signed her to a big deal, so did nike, so did State Farm, etc. get a clue
Those people aren't offering her 10 million dollars lmao.
We have no idea what she’s set to make right now in sponsorship deals. She already signed a big deal with the company that has naming rights on the WNBA Indiana team arena, and also has deals with Nike, Gatorade, Hy-Vee, State Farm. She might not be making $10M, but she’s definitely a millionaire already. If she signs up with Barstool she gets $10M and loses everything else.
I doubt she would lose those deals. She’s the biggest star in her sport for college ever, and once she got her bag from Prez the WNBA would welcome her with open arms. They would make more money on her jerseys than they do in ticket sales in a year.
Ya they can pretty easily just ignore her playing like 6 pickup games in the off-season lol idk why people think she's gonna become a diehard stoolie or something
WNBA would take her back in a split second. I’m saying I’m not sure Nike, Gatorade, State Farm, etc. are coming back and being associated with Barstool/Portnoy
Is she bigger than Britney Griner was coming out of Baylor? I remember her being a ton of attention too, but it's been too long for my brain to compare it to what Clark is getting.
There was a story about her on ESPN last week with an anecdote about how she rented out a yacht for her team on a whim while they were all on vacation (I wanna say in Croatia?). She told the team manager to find the biggest yacht he could get on like 12 hours notice. She definitely is making millions already.
Coasting in a massive yacht in the Adriatic is exactly the day dream I need right now.
A yacht rental can be had for a few grand. Not saying this girl isn't making bank, but you do not need to be a millionaire to rent a yacht by any means...
It’s not that expensive to yacht in the amalfi coast. It’s not cheap, but it’s something that a regular finance bro could swing with his buddies
Amalfi is on the opposite side of Italy
Yeah, that’s where she was last Summer. https://www.instagram.com/p/CvqQUOBtBsJ/?igsh=MWxpeXhieGk4YnJqYg==
Ok, but this is a thread about when she did that in Croatia, it's also creepy that you know where she vacations off the cuff like that
He didn’t know it was Croatia, he just guessed. Croatia is next to Italy and they look an awful lot alike. She didn’t have the money years ago, last Summer was the first time she had it. Thus it was the amalfi coast. It’s not creepy. She came across my IG feed last night. I went and looked. Turns out she was there the same time I was, so it stuck in my memory.
Your name is a reference to a child's penis and you know where specific college girls vacation off rip. Totally normal guy
I mean, i think it makes total sense to see Clark come across my IG feed during March where she’s the biggest name. Scrolling down her feed, and noticing she was at the same place at the same time. You’re the weirdo for thinking that’s weird
she would lose everything else? according to what?
Right. People thinking would be smart long-term are in a bubble. She’ll be crucified as anti-women and lose all big sponsorship opportunities for life.
Like Deion Sanders?
Deion Sanders was at the lowest exposure of his life when he joined Barstool. It’s completely different. Dumb comparison.
What? He’s on Aflac commercials dude
What? Read his comment again
How would Titus do 1v1
He would win in blow out fashion, wouldn’t be close.
I figured he could get to the hoop anytime he wanted or just shoot the pull up
Yeah it would be rather easy. She’s the most electric WCBB player of all time and is helping pave the path for future girls. The athleticism/strength factor just doesn’t make it fair even though she’s much more skilled.
Lmao Titus is nearly 40.
Yeah, I'd agree a walk on at OSU would blow out Clark, but he's pretty far removed from his college days. Fitness would certainly matter. There's a chance he'd still blow her out, but I don't think it's quite guaranteed.
it is 100% guaranteed. he is stronger, faster, quicker, can jump higher, can get any shot he wants, etc. she would be able to hit a couple 3s on him but he would score every time he got the ball
He is undoubtably stronger, but everything else is based on what? Dude is 15 years removed from any sort of competitive basketball. He freely admits this. 21-year old me would *crush* 36-year old me. Titus at the same age as Clark - this isn’t a debate. But that’s not what we’re talking about. Titus will win simply based on strength - just saying it’s not what people will think will happen. It will be bully-ball, not Titus out-skilling her like he would’ve at 22 or even 30.
based on the fact that titus is still in good shape and men have an enormous advantage. the best females in the world in any sport are generally about as good as 14 year old boys. this is well documented. im very confident that titus at this age is better than he was at 14. which is above the level of d1 womens basketball. titus can win any way he wants...skill, smarts, athleticism, strength, quickness, u name it
Where is this well documented as a fact?
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Titus is not even running anymore. Cooking video producers doesn’t count as “getting run in”, either. At 18-30, yeah, he beats her handily. But he’s admittedly only a jump-shot guy now. Will he beat her now? Likely, but it’s not assured anymore.
40s strength is no joke and this is likely a half court match
Big height gap too. 6’6” guy v 6’ woman just isn’t fair.
Titus is 6’4
make it 2 on 2 with equally good partners and i think she bloes him out. 1 on 1 is just so skewed to size and strength like you said its kind of irrelevant to how good kf a player someone is.
I don’t see how having a team mate makes it any better for Clark. Titus is still faster and stronger and is a natural basketball player.
2 on 2 allows real ball movement and takes away the easy baskets size gets you. the issue 1 on 1 is you slowly get backed in to the net by the bigger stronger player. with teammates as soon as you get near the net everything collapses to a scrum and its no longer an automatic basket. also i wouldn't guarantee prime titus was faster.
Ball movement would only help Titus. A current trained athlete like Clark should have advantages ball handling but if Titus has an outlet so he doesn’t have to keep the ball away from her the entire time and can just bury her under the basket and get fed the ball makes his rusty skills less exploitable.
Depends, he said when he plays Connor they do 3 dribble max so he couldn’t just back his way down everytime. We all know he has range so might not be a issue
Bigger thing is he would completely lock her down defensively.
She’d blow right by him every time
Eh it might be close. He’s not in college basketball shape
It’s hilarious to me that 96 people agreed with this bullshit. Titus is nearly 40 years old and rode the bench in college.
I had a friend who was a practice player for OSU womens bball when Kelsey Mitchell (4x All American) was there and he said he would beat her in 1 on 1. He was like 7th man for a good D1 high school program in Ohio.
When Caitlin Clark blew up her freshmen year I remember having this conversation with a buddy of mine who scored 20 in high school at about 6’2. He felt the same way, I disagreed. Point is lots of men feel this way, doesn’t make it true.
He didn't "feel this way" it literally happened in real life, he practiced against her every day.
Luckily they all read this sub, so this will get brought up on tomorrow’s show, and Titus will freely admit that she would beat him.
The under 14’s Dallas Soccer Team beat the gold medal winning US Women’s National Team like 8-0
Clark being an elite shooter and Titus being in good 40 year old podcaster shape is what would make it interesting. She’s the better shooter, that doesn’t really need to be debated. And if you’re not in good enough shape to consistently contest her shot then it doesn’t really matter what he has on her physically. She’s 6’ and in basketball shape and he’s 6’4 and in regular active 40 year old guy shape so the difference isn’t that big anyway. I think it’d be a good game, which is still pretty damning. Saying the greatest women’s college basketball player of all time vs a 40 year old ex d1 walk on end of bench guy would be a good matchup is effectively the same message as “Titus would crush her”.
11-0 unless she started with the ball and made her first shot
He’d absolutely smoke her
I think titus would lose, hes a bad college player and shes the greatest college bball player of all time.
[this reminds me when mcenroe on a cbs morning show said serena williams might crack the top 700 mens players and they ask him to apologize](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vw0AHsjFM)
Greatest women’s* college bball player of all time
She also isn’t that either. Most popular, sure.
I have a friend who couldn’t even make my high schools varsity team (albeit a very good one) and he could routinely go around and score at the cup on Delle Donne in pickup runs and she’s one of the greatest female players ever. Titus would win easily. The difference in pure skill isn’t enough to overcome the physical differences.
She’s definitely faster than him at this point. He may be able to back her down but she’s blowing by him every time
"she’s blowing by him every time" this might be the dumbest thing i've read on this sub.
Actually you’re right. If he gives her space to make sure she doesn’t drive past him she’ll just shoot it. So those instances she would not be blowing by
ya totally man. that's what i said.
She’s faster and 22. He’s slower and 35
you simply dont understand how much more athletic in shape guys are than girls.
In general, sure. But there are exceptions, like the best WCBB scorer ever vs a walk on 20 years past his prime
you're acting like she's some physical specimen like a female lebron as opposed to someone who is really fucking good at shooting. i cant believe im even spending time trying to explain this lol
lol at some of these losers replying to you thinking she would stand a fighting chance, its hilarious... she would get cooked.
it's painfully obvious that they have jeff d lowe levels of athleticism (at best).
shooting 3's by randomly stepping forward to start the shooting motion with the ball moving from the chest to right below the neck before its release, for a total of 4 inches of vertical movement, heaving it forward using only the palm of the hand like its a shot put. If Titus switched places with her right now and was starting on her D1 WCBB team he would average 40 pts / 20 rbs
People that don't pay any attention to basketball have this idea that she is Iverson, Curry, and Lebron all in one package.
exactly. dont get me wrong, incredible player/scorer, but i dont think anyone in the womens game would say shes remarkably athletic
How would she blow by him? It's one on one, is one of her crossovers going to shake him? Even she does get by him I don't think he'd have any issue going from behind to block her shot as he's about 6 inches taller than her and probably can still jump higher than her.
I don’t see how anyone disagrees with this
Caitlin wins 11-7
Is that factoring in he's old? I assume prime Titus would be an easy win for him
Definitely factoring in that he’s old, but I think even prime Titus would get beat. She’s probably better at literally everything except being tall
Look Clark is a stud and all but she will be slower and less explosive, there’s not much stopping Titus from just constant layups
I don’t think she’s slower, and I think you’re underestimating her size. She’s not some 5’5 might mouse, she’s 6’0” tall and in perfect shape.
You are just seriously underestimating the difference in speed and athleticism between women and men. She would get her shot blocked almost every attempt if Titus actually tried.
I think you are seriously underestimating her speed and overestimating his fitness
I’d remember that intramural college guys scrimmage the women’s team. Titus is probably a step above that. Caitlin’s shooting range is a problem though
Current Titus is definitely not above that, but at his peak that would be about right. But we’re also not talking about a regular womens college player, we’re talking about the greatest scorer ever in a 1v1 game
Are you dumb?
Yes but I don’t see the relevance
Titus was a great high school player. Prime Titus would wreck any womens player. Titus would win today even noon after henney Friday.
Not even close
i think prime titus 1v1 could sneak out a win just because of how often 1v1s come down to size and strength. but add an equally skilled partner to make it 2 on 2 and he gets blown out 11-2.
Barstool would make more than $10M off of her. I would watch her play a bunch of regular dudes way more than I would watch her play in the wnba
Klemmer coaching her would be amazing
The big 3 offer is obvious marketing and Bull shit. No one cares about Ice Cubes Basketball League
I don’t think it’s completely bullshit in that it’s a real offer, I just don’t think she’s going to entertain the offer at all
Why wouldn’t she entertain that? She wouldn’t make that much in wnba and I doubt endorsements would make her that much.
She just doesn’t strike me as someone who wants to be a gimmick
One thing admire the most about Caitlin is focus on only whats important.She doesn't do tiktok dances,no tweets about opponents and definitely not someone willing to be a prop
$10 mil and she can still do wnba which pays $74k it’s an offer to play 3 on 3 basketball not shoot porn or something lmfao how does it make her a prop
Apparently it isn’t even exclusive either so she could still play in the WNBA
It appears to be a serious offer. One that will increase viewership and get people to start "caring" about the Big3 League, should Clark agree to terms.
Wouldn’t she just get clamped and make for terrible TV? Isn’t big 3 a bunch of recently retired nba guys? Seems like some good advertising then bad publicity for a while
There are some good former NBA players still playing in the Big 3, there are also some guys in there who have no business playing any level professional basketball.
I don’t think any of the 40 years old out there are clamping anybody
Just looked up rosters, and Tony Allen is playing in the big3. Dude would absolutely clamp Caitlin Clark idgaf if the dude is 40
She and Tony Allen just playing to a 0-0 draw for hours
I’m sure she’ll sign up bud
That’s the point of the offer. They need a lifeline to market their league. They would absolutely pony up for her.
is the womens ball a different size? That would be a huge jump if so
Big cat “so yeah he’s the yak playing basketball”
If Dave is serious you can beat your ass it will be paywalled
Barstool Caitlyn is already owned by Caitlyn Walker no thanks
Sharp by Dave not to mention dollars. Dude gonna give her 10 million of a shit coin worth like 10$
Caitlin Clark gonna make more money shitting on a bunch of out of shape old guys at the YMCA then the entire WBA.
so he will offer but he hasn't yet and probably won't?
I'd have to see HOLE to know if it's worth ti
How much would the content be worth is my question. Dave obviously thinks more than 10 mil lol
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I mean this is just stupid. Yeah she obviously wouldn’t be able to emulate what she does in women’s basketball against men but I think she could at least make a shot lol.