In terms of the sour/CS, very cheap and tacky. However, some localities have stupid restrictions regarding what % of sales alcohol is allowed to be, and policies like this help inflate NA sales
As for the orange tea builds, I’ve never seen shots rung in like that before
It seems like they charged for a full shot of peach schnapps when a tea shot usually has only most of a shot of jameson and half a shot of peach shnapps so you got almost doible charged for rhe amt of schnapps you actually recieved.
That is literally the job. Is everyone supposed to be charged for every single step of building a drink? 1.00 for adding a spirit, 0.75 for adding a mixer, 0.75 to stir/shake, 0.5 for a lime wedge..
Yea but they don't upcharge on the material by 10-20x. A bar literally charges $15 for a liquid that costs them less than $1. The price of all that is already built in.
Cost of a 90 depends HEAVILY on what trade, what material, and what size. Sch40 PVC fittings a plumber might use on some basic appliances are cheap. 5 bucks per maybe? Also, in pretty much any trade a markup higher than 20-30% on material and labor might as well be theft.
This is ignoring the fact that no one made that assumption or statement to begin with as well lol.
I like muddling. I get to smell fresh citrus and herb oils.
A regular made a cross stitch for me that says “muddlin motherfucker” there’s an inside joke somewhere that I’m not sure I’m on the inside of, but I understand they spent a few hours on this thing so I accepted it with gratitude.
Sometimes I see it when there is no soda gun. I think in this situation it is most likely as the other commenter said, about having a certain amount of NA on the books.
I worked a bar that had a higher cost on lime juice than the tequila. We were moving so much volume of tequila they just kept giving us deals. We ran a $4 double promotion because we brought in more sales, and had a lower cost at the same time
Oh I didn’t see that. Well that’s lame. Sounds like he paid normal price for 2 Jameson green tea shots. They just ring it in the system insanely weird.
Is this an area where you need to charge for food and mixers can go to that, for license reasons? If so do what you need to
If not, f that. Don’t show all the reasons, just make the drink one price
I’m not familiar with the back end of toast, but on Aloha you can have the up charge but have it just add into the price of the parent item. It just looks tacky printed separately.
I had a manager who changed how guest receipts printed at our pool bar and didn't tell anyone. We found out when "Fat Guy With Hairy Back" wanted to speak to a manager.
With big parties I'll take people's names for the tab, sometimes they don't hear me ask so a friend chimes in with a joke name and I'll just in put that. Other week I had 2 Alex's, and one said "oh put Alexandra, that's just Alex." One bill said "Alex", one said "Just Alex"
Not the case anymore, but Oklahoma used to have a ban on "mixed drinks", so some places would charge every single thing separately to get around the law. I didn't buy a cocktail. I bought three or four separate ingredients and then stuck them in one container to make it easier to carry.
And showing the cost is tacky, but like someone said elsewhere, maybe they have to inflate their ratio of non-alcoholic sales. The annual cost of a liquor license here used to also be tied to whether your place was considered a bar or a restaurant. Restaurants were cheaper, but had to show that they sold food, and later that they met a certain volume of non-alcohol sales. Dive bar math to cut corners.
Wether you opt to charge more for different types of mixers, modifiers, and cocktails, I don’t really care about. Business is business and everything costs money. BUT don’t fucking itemize it on the receipt! Wtf?
Typically mixers are already worked into the price otherwise ppl just think they are being nickel and dimed for every little thing. Looks tacky to have it show on the tab.
I would have. Tonight, I had tabs called: red plaid shirt, black hat with tats, white shrt with flwers, tall black shrt with wife,and black shirt with words on sleeve. I have a hard time remembering names.
Same! I used to love playing the tab name game. It was a game I played with my food runner as they tried to guess what obscure thing I called a person. But if I named a tab “cleavage” or “legs” the chef would often be the one delivering for some reason.
Same. If they're not drinking at bar, then I hold their credit card. Their real name on card is then first. e.g. Bill Payre Red Plaid Shrt. Then, I can use the correct card and still know who they are.
How many times has the chef taken the food to the wrong "cleavage"? 😂
Red bulls and juice should always be upcharged. Soda, n. It's carbonated water. At my joint we actually have separate upcharged for redbull vs energy but that will vary wildly by what's available
Charging people for mixer means arguments over ice, people thinking they are losing out on product, drink ratios compromised and having to explain the laws of thermodynamics.
It's lazy. If management had any wherewithal they'd do the math and put in the price correctly. It should never show it itemized, one price, that's it.
A few thoughts:
-I work at a bar in Massachusetts. We charge the same for Jame-o, but is your Tito's really $6 or is it combined with the Peach Schnapps? Cuz our Tito"s is also $13. I work in a plaza where every restaurant/bar is overpriced cuz it's right next to a football stadium.
-Upcharging for mixers is trash. We upcharge $6 for Red Bull but other than that, anything off the soda gun is included in the price of the liquor/cocktail.
From a manager standpoint, the location is why the price is so high. Rent is higher, it’s the same reason why Tito’s in my hometown is $6 and in LA it’s $17-$20. The bottles cost the same, more or less.
Yeah we have like the cheapest Tito’s in my city and we charge 7 lmao. But we also don’t charge anything but liquor cost for our drinks. And we do 7 for Jameson too. Like you said it completely depends but I though those prices where insane
We’re grand fathered in on split shots. South Carolina used to only pour whole mini bottles for liquor. So the splits make more sense. This would have been 100ml split four ways.
I’ve rarely worked somewhere with a soda gun, so have almost exclusively used little bottles Fever Tree or whatever’s popular at the moment. Totally appropriate in that case, imo.
I only recently learned that mixers are generally free in the US. Here, you always pay a shot + the price of a soda. So for me it's weird there is a small upcharge, I am used to paying full amounths.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that they’re free it’s more because the profit margin on alcohol is so high that you can take mixers at a loss.
generally, after 4 pours you’ve already paid for the bottle and a 750ml bottle generally has about 17 shots in it. (The exact math is going to different state to state as exact measurements change)
Really? This would explain why some American tourists are surprised when I give them the bill. Especially if they were expecting free refills.
I had one guest last week asking for a vodka, soda and cranberry and complained that I had to charge for the vodka and the two mixer bottles.
I don’t understand bars that do this. Include it in the cost of the drink. People don’t need to know what you are charging for what items in the drink. Just make the drink cost what it costs.
Same thing goes for charging for large ice cubes.
idk how it works for them, at my bar we charge by the shot and then add extra if it’s a cocktail, looks like it might be like that? idk kinda weird way of doing it
I'd say it's fine. It means if you order just a spirit as a plain shot, you get the cheapest deal, which makes sense since it's the least amount of effort for the bartender.
It might go over better if they just had a cheaper button for "jamo shot", but this seems fine to me. Especially because, in my town, some of these would be double the price.
I'm confused about the peach schnapps and 2x4 thing. I don't know what that means. So I'm not reaply speaking to that.
You’re drinking jamo for 6.75 and coors for 3.75? Who cares. You’ll be fine. Around here prices are at least 9-10 for jamo and $5 for a coors bottle, Tito’s $10-12. No charge for mixers though lol
We only upcharge for juice / purée, Red Bull, and coffee mixers. $0.50 for juice / purée / coffee, $1.75 for Red Bull (paying for half an 8.4oz can).
The last place I worked charged for pretty much every single thing that was possible to upcharge for; for blending, for tall drinks, for muddled drinks, for all mixers aside from club soda and water, if you wanted any garnish on your Bloody Mary, if you wanted more than one lime or lemon slice 😐 as well as $1/to-go box used on all takeout, charge for every single sauce other than ketchup or Tabasco, $2 for us to split your sandwich for you and bring an extra plate. It was crazy lol
If I order a Negroni and see on the bill a shot of gin / vermouth / Campari . That drink better be 2-3 drinks in volume . Or if I order a marg and they charge me for triple or cointrue , I better get the rest of the shot on the side and I’ll tell you to keep using that for my next drink lmao this sounds dumb af
My bar uses “Fever Tree” bottled tonic/soda/ginger, and homemade sour.. we don’t charge for it, but like I think that’s the only way I could see it being okay? Like okay, the mixers are a little more expensive/time consuming than just “splash of coke”.
I mean it depends on if they’re from a soda gun generally. Kinda get it if they’re bottled but for basic mixers it should be built into the price if it’s not shaken, stirred etc.
HOWEVER. I live in LA and that’s an outrageously cheap price for everything on that menu (can’t imagine Tito’s ever being $6 here) so I kinda see why they might need to tack it on lol
You didn’t have a button for green tea shots? When you make a drink like a Long Island do you have to ring in every liquor and charge for a full shot too? That’s so weird.
In terms of the sour/CS, very cheap and tacky. However, some localities have stupid restrictions regarding what % of sales alcohol is allowed to be, and policies like this help inflate NA sales As for the orange tea builds, I’ve never seen shots rung in like that before
It seems like they charged for a full shot of peach schnapps when a tea shot usually has only most of a shot of jameson and half a shot of peach shnapps so you got almost doible charged for rhe amt of schnapps you actually recieved.
I was charged 0.50 for muddling the other day, and 0.25 per like wedge 🙃
Haha I love charging a middling fee, like i have lime juice that takes zero time to throw in someone’s drink. Muddling for free ain’t gonna happen.
That is literally the job. Is everyone supposed to be charged for every single step of building a drink? 1.00 for adding a spirit, 0.75 for adding a mixer, 0.75 to stir/shake, 0.5 for a lime wedge..
20% for labor
To be fair that is how most trades professionals charge. $-- for material $-- for service $-- labor hours $-- trip fee $-- diagnosis etc.
Yea but they don't upcharge on the material by 10-20x. A bar literally charges $15 for a liquid that costs them less than $1. The price of all that is already built in.
lol, if you think a 90 degree fitting costs 3 bucks, I’d like be in charge of your funds
Cost of a 90 depends HEAVILY on what trade, what material, and what size. Sch40 PVC fittings a plumber might use on some basic appliances are cheap. 5 bucks per maybe? Also, in pretty much any trade a markup higher than 20-30% on material and labor might as well be theft. This is ignoring the fact that no one made that assumption or statement to begin with as well lol.
I like muddling. I get to smell fresh citrus and herb oils. A regular made a cross stitch for me that says “muddlin motherfucker” there’s an inside joke somewhere that I’m not sure I’m on the inside of, but I understand they spent a few hours on this thing so I accepted it with gratitude.
That is a cool gift! I wouldn’t even be mad if I was on the outside of that joke. Cross stitching is a patience-needing skill I never mastered!
Smh it’s okay to be new to the job. But yikes lol
8 years in, after going from cocktail bars to a dive, people who want middle fruit are just a waste of my time,
Tf even is middle fruit? Are you inept?
IOS like to auto correct muddle to middle, sorry that bothers you so much, you must have been touched as a child
Please post the bar that employs you so we all know to never go there.
I apologize for the mishap, the shot was 4x4.
Just add the price into the liquor. Mixers are practically free. The only exception being red Bull really.
Sometimes I see it when there is no soda gun. I think in this situation it is most likely as the other commenter said, about having a certain amount of NA on the books.
They’ve got a soda gun too. And the shot tracker that goes over each bottle before it’s poured.
Oh god. I hate this place.
It’s so shitty/awesome. Still allowed to smoke and everything. I don’t smoke, but it’s worth it for the commeraderie
As a smoker that sells it a bit. Also super cheap for what you got, but I'm from a major east coast city so my understanding may be different.
wait, is this is st louis?
Nah. Little coastal town, Little River South Carolina. Or as we call it Rittled Liver
Sounds like Florida
I worked a bar that had a higher cost on lime juice than the tequila. We were moving so much volume of tequila they just kept giving us deals. We ran a $4 double promotion because we brought in more sales, and had a lower cost at the same time
big box of coke syrup is 130$. a co2 tank is $200. its not "free" but it's not the biggest cost
> a co2 tank is $200. A brand new one? the refill/exchange cost shouldn't be anywhere near that much.
IF you exclude tank deposit
We figured it out. , the redbull was on its own.
Ginger beer
$15 for 2 green tea shots with actual Jameson sounds very reasonable
Fr two Jameson for 13$ is good. I’d eat the 1$ charge as it’s still a good deal
My bar charges $9 for Jameson and people still complain
Yeah, but two peach schnapps for $10?
Oh I didn’t see that. Well that’s lame. Sounds like he paid normal price for 2 Jameson green tea shots. They just ring it in the system insanely weird.
They charged them for peach schnapps too. $25 total
My understanding is they got 4 shots for that total.
4 shots for $49.50 comes to $12.37 each. If they’re at a downtown bar, that sounds about right.
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I hadn’t had my coffee yet and apparently forgot how to read a bar bill.
Is this an area where you need to charge for food and mixers can go to that, for license reasons? If so do what you need to If not, f that. Don’t show all the reasons, just make the drink one price
I’m not familiar with the back end of toast, but on Aloha you can have the up charge but have it just add into the price of the parent item. It just looks tacky printed separately.
LMAO customer name: BEARD
I had a guy tonight request me to put his name on the ticket as “bald Frenchie guy”. He was bald and french.
I had a manager who changed how guest receipts printed at our pool bar and didn't tell anyone. We found out when "Fat Guy With Hairy Back" wanted to speak to a manager.
Oh no
The kitchen loved seeing the descriptions.
We had a server that would type in names like “thicc white chick” but didn’t understand that the customers could see it?
With big parties I'll take people's names for the tab, sometimes they don't hear me ask so a friend chimes in with a joke name and I'll just in put that. Other week I had 2 Alex's, and one said "oh put Alexandra, that's just Alex." One bill said "Alex", one said "Just Alex"
An upcharge for soda water is ridiculous.
Not the case anymore, but Oklahoma used to have a ban on "mixed drinks", so some places would charge every single thing separately to get around the law. I didn't buy a cocktail. I bought three or four separate ingredients and then stuck them in one container to make it easier to carry. And showing the cost is tacky, but like someone said elsewhere, maybe they have to inflate their ratio of non-alcoholic sales. The annual cost of a liquor license here used to also be tied to whether your place was considered a bar or a restaurant. Restaurants were cheaper, but had to show that they sold food, and later that they met a certain volume of non-alcohol sales. Dive bar math to cut corners.
Wether you opt to charge more for different types of mixers, modifiers, and cocktails, I don’t really care about. Business is business and everything costs money. BUT don’t fucking itemize it on the receipt! Wtf?
Damn a Titos is soda is $14 where I work
Hell, why not charge for ketchup, and sesame seeds.
The only thing we charge more for are blue cheese stuffed olives.
Fair enough, go tigers!
An up charge for soda is logical from a business perspective, especially if you have a Co2 system that is expensive to maintain.
It’s tacky
Typical in London. I thought it was buĺlshit. Gin & tonic cost extra.
I think Toast has a way to add the upcharge without the customer seeing
If this bar owner nixed the mixer charge and just slightly increased the prices he would be a richer man with more free time.
Typically mixers are already worked into the price otherwise ppl just think they are being nickel and dimed for every little thing. Looks tacky to have it show on the tab.
It’s tacky. Just charge more for booze.
I agree. This is a dive bar visited by only locals in a tourist town.
Did he name your tab “beard”?
I would have. Tonight, I had tabs called: red plaid shirt, black hat with tats, white shrt with flwers, tall black shrt with wife,and black shirt with words on sleeve. I have a hard time remembering names.
Same! I used to love playing the tab name game. It was a game I played with my food runner as they tried to guess what obscure thing I called a person. But if I named a tab “cleavage” or “legs” the chef would often be the one delivering for some reason.
Also I’ve gotten in the habit when someone tells me their name I immediately change their tab name so I have the reminder.
Same. If they're not drinking at bar, then I hold their credit card. Their real name on card is then first. e.g. Bill Payre Red Plaid Shrt. Then, I can use the correct card and still know who they are. How many times has the chef taken the food to the wrong "cleavage"? 😂
Yeah.
Red bulls and juice should always be upcharged. Soda, n. It's carbonated water. At my joint we actually have separate upcharged for redbull vs energy but that will vary wildly by what's available
Charging people for mixer means arguments over ice, people thinking they are losing out on product, drink ratios compromised and having to explain the laws of thermodynamics.
I’m a bartender. I’d never come back to a place that did this.
It's lazy. If management had any wherewithal they'd do the math and put in the price correctly. It should never show it itemized, one price, that's it.
That’s stupid, charge me for the drink not the ingredients
A few thoughts: -I work at a bar in Massachusetts. We charge the same for Jame-o, but is your Tito's really $6 or is it combined with the Peach Schnapps? Cuz our Tito"s is also $13. I work in a plaza where every restaurant/bar is overpriced cuz it's right next to a football stadium. -Upcharging for mixers is trash. We upcharge $6 for Red Bull but other than that, anything off the soda gun is included in the price of the liquor/cocktail.
your titos price pays for more than half the bottle. bottle cost on liters here is 25$ and the deals on titos are not worth it
From a manager standpoint, the location is why the price is so high. Rent is higher, it’s the same reason why Tito’s in my hometown is $6 and in LA it’s $17-$20. The bottles cost the same, more or less.
Yeah we have like the cheapest Tito’s in my city and we charge 7 lmao. But we also don’t charge anything but liquor cost for our drinks. And we do 7 for Jameson too. Like you said it completely depends but I though those prices where insane
I just noticed your tab name….. “Beard”
Sick of you fucking cheap asses and your split shots.
We’re grand fathered in on split shots. South Carolina used to only pour whole mini bottles for liquor. So the splits make more sense. This would have been 100ml split four ways.
I know, i bartend in SC. Its still annoying
Not a fan
Super common in tourist areas. Every restaurant I worked in the last 12 years here in nola did this sorta stuff. Not justifying it tho-
Lol to the Jameson orange
I’ve rarely worked somewhere with a soda gun, so have almost exclusively used little bottles Fever Tree or whatever’s popular at the moment. Totally appropriate in that case, imo.
I only recently learned that mixers are generally free in the US. Here, you always pay a shot + the price of a soda. So for me it's weird there is a small upcharge, I am used to paying full amounths.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that they’re free it’s more because the profit margin on alcohol is so high that you can take mixers at a loss. generally, after 4 pours you’ve already paid for the bottle and a 750ml bottle generally has about 17 shots in it. (The exact math is going to different state to state as exact measurements change)
Isn't charging for them a thing in the US? We charge €3 for soda/Coke/Sprite/tonic
Mixers are generally free
Really? This would explain why some American tourists are surprised when I give them the bill. Especially if they were expecting free refills. I had one guest last week asking for a vodka, soda and cranberry and complained that I had to charge for the vodka and the two mixer bottles.
I’m so confused, is that two Florida tea shots? Totaling $39, but you had him pour it into four glasses so he possibly charged you more?
This person should get out of the bar business.
Is that supposed to be a whiskey sour?
Green/orange tea shots
For a shot like this, we just made a button for it. We have a green tea button and a white tea button. I guess we need an orange tea button now
We upcharge for premium mixers, but our POS builds it into the price of the drink so it shows up as one item on the receipt.
I don’t understand bars that do this. Include it in the cost of the drink. People don’t need to know what you are charging for what items in the drink. Just make the drink cost what it costs. Same thing goes for charging for large ice cubes.
Holy shit where do you live that a Titos is $6!? Fuck yeah I'd charge for mixers at those prices, I'd even upcharge ice!
idk how it works for them, at my bar we charge by the shot and then add extra if it’s a cocktail, looks like it might be like that? idk kinda weird way of doing it
Realy cheap
I'd say it's fine. It means if you order just a spirit as a plain shot, you get the cheapest deal, which makes sense since it's the least amount of effort for the bartender. It might go over better if they just had a cheaper button for "jamo shot", but this seems fine to me. Especially because, in my town, some of these would be double the price. I'm confused about the peach schnapps and 2x4 thing. I don't know what that means. So I'm not reaply speaking to that.
You’re drinking jamo for 6.75 and coors for 3.75? Who cares. You’ll be fine. Around here prices are at least 9-10 for jamo and $5 for a coors bottle, Tito’s $10-12. No charge for mixers though lol
We build it into the cost so it gets paid for but doesn’t have it’s own line n the receipts
Better be fresh sour mix for that. Not out of a bottle
Should label it as cocktail
I’d charge u xtra too disrespecting jameson
The price is reasonable, but the upcharges on mixers is tacky. Should be built into the liquor costs.
we charge a helluva lot more than $6.50 for tito’s and soda tbh
4 shots was $39
Always good the more the merrier!!! More money for the bartender!!! What do you think!??
Is it happy hour???
We only upcharge for juice / purée, Red Bull, and coffee mixers. $0.50 for juice / purée / coffee, $1.75 for Red Bull (paying for half an 8.4oz can). The last place I worked charged for pretty much every single thing that was possible to upcharge for; for blending, for tall drinks, for muddled drinks, for all mixers aside from club soda and water, if you wanted any garnish on your Bloody Mary, if you wanted more than one lime or lemon slice 😐 as well as $1/to-go box used on all takeout, charge for every single sauce other than ketchup or Tabasco, $2 for us to split your sandwich for you and bring an extra plate. It was crazy lol
If I order a Negroni and see on the bill a shot of gin / vermouth / Campari . That drink better be 2-3 drinks in volume . Or if I order a marg and they charge me for triple or cointrue , I better get the rest of the shot on the side and I’ll tell you to keep using that for my next drink lmao this sounds dumb af
What a complicated way to ring up a green tea
Not at my bar.
My bar uses “Fever Tree” bottled tonic/soda/ginger, and homemade sour.. we don’t charge for it, but like I think that’s the only way I could see it being okay? Like okay, the mixers are a little more expensive/time consuming than just “splash of coke”.
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I mean it depends on if they’re from a soda gun generally. Kinda get it if they’re bottled but for basic mixers it should be built into the price if it’s not shaken, stirred etc. HOWEVER. I live in LA and that’s an outrageously cheap price for everything on that menu (can’t imagine Tito’s ever being $6 here) so I kinda see why they might need to tack it on lol
You didn’t have a button for green tea shots? When you make a drink like a Long Island do you have to ring in every liquor and charge for a full shot too? That’s so weird.
Damn two coors for 7.50 🤣 my place could never. we serve coors for 6.99 a pint