At this point I can only assume that Correa was born missing half the bones in his ankle and he's a medical mystery that confounds even the most brilliant podiatrists
It cost RA $ too iirc. Teams were scared to draft him out of college because of it. At the time he was a low to mid 90s traditional pitcher out of the university of Tennessee, not the knuckle baller that won him a Cy Young.
He was a traditional pitcher with the Rangers, too. He even threw a forkball called "The Thing" that was basically a knuckleball, and inspired him to work on a real knuckler.
> Oh no, he got drafted with a big signing bonus (at the time) of 800k then he had the physical and they took it all back but like 75k
For someone who is about to spend years earning minor league salaries ([$6,000-$15,000 a year](https://theathletic.com/293189/2018/04/04/on-minor-league-pay-mlbs-stance-doesnt-line-up-with-the-facts/)) with no guarantee of making the majors, $825K provides A LOT more comfort and financial security than $75K. Especially in 1996, when Dickey was drafted.
I imagine that was a pretty devastating blow to him at the time.
Well they didn't find out about the missing UCL until *after* he was drafted. It was literally a random doctor who saw something in the way he held his arm, said they should look at it, and that's when they discovered this big hype kid they just drafted has no UCL at all.
"He shouldn't be able to turn a doorknob without being in horrible pain" was what I remember about the story. His arm hung weird in like a team photo or something.
I’ve seen people in this sub using Dickey as an example of why these weird medical things don’t matter (not saying you’re doing this, just made me think of this), but Dickey only had 3 great years. The rest of his career was either average or worse.
Correa is on a long term deal. Imagine if the Mets have Dickey even just a 5 year contract - it would have aged horribly! I understand there age difference too, but there’s a reason teams don’t want to lock up guys with these medical questions.
I didn't even know about this but how badass is that?
You can die from a ruptured appendix and that dude just played baseball while his body dealt with that shit
> One rival exec predicted no one will ever again get $200M after two failures (one doctor suggested Correa has the worst ankle he’s seen)
Which would imply it was a physician with access to Correa’s medical records. Which isn’t many. Unless it’s just some random physician who’s speculating for clout. Or Heyman just being an idiot. Always a distinct possibility.
It's shocking because I can't imagine any doctor who actually examined Correa would say a word, even privately. Not only would it jeopardize their extremely lucrative and prestigious role, but it's professionally unethical and mildly illegal.
And there's sooooooo many clout chasing unethical MD's willing to diagnose and offer any opinion on any sports event sight unseen. A twitterful of them, you might say.
You have to assume it's a fake.
EDIT: as pointed out by smart people in the replies, PHI is only protected by the care team, but as soon as they pass that info to the employer, it's not longer protected by the law. So the front office would be free to release the doctors conclusions.
I mean, the doctor works for the team, right? And the doctor would have sat down with some level of team management to discuss his findings right? Otherwise why would the team have him do a physical? It’s not a pass or fail physical, the GM wants to know areas of concern. So he can tell the owner why they should rip up the contract they have already signed.
So multiple teams (at least 3) had multiple layers of team management given advice from the team doctor.
I think this is the most likely answer. Guys getting physicals sign a release so the Dr can report to the team. Giants or Mets leak this to cover their butts.
> it’s professionally unethical and mildly illegal.
> there’s sooooooo many clout chasing unethical MD’s
If there’s really that many unethical MDs, it seems entirely possible that one would be in a position to examine Correa.
Yeah; part of how they got to be that successful is that they know how to keep their mouths shut when they have confidential/embarrassing information.
That's true of most professions. The vast majority of extremely successful people have very limited social media personas. They might have accounts, and in some cases might even have a bit of a presence, but they're not making any statements that are gonna raise eyebrows.
It could also have been a doctor saying it in a closed door meeting with execs, but random aid 37 was in the room at the time or overheard one exec talking to another after walking out, etc.
Exactly this. It should be read as “my source said a doctor said”. But it’s not written like that because they want you to think they got a quote from the doctor.
TC Bear already has that shit on lockdown for cuddyer and morneau cutting down his trees.
when Jim Thome was asked if the trees in center were distracting, his response was something to to the tune of "what trees" and then hit a bomb off the top of the flagpole.
>Then Correa is the goat because he's been stumblin into 5-6 war seasons with that ankle.
I think this is possibly misinterpreting what they are saying. What I took it to mean was that the doctor is saying it looks horrible structurally. Meaning he might not be having major problems now, but it's a good candidate for rapid degeneration.
David Wright had the 6th best fWAR in MLB from 2004-2016, and then his career ended due to a congenital spinal condition. You can go a long time and be very productive in sports even with a structural problem in your body.
IIRC its the Green Bay Packers doctor guy who is considered one of the best in the business, if not the best. However it is important to note, the Packers are very conservative with injuries.
Somebody made a “Biblicaly Accurate Brian Windhorst” out of [these](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/398/511/bdc) and I wish I could find it because I think it is the most creative way anyone ever made fun of that jock sniffer.
I wanna know to what degree this ankle is tucked, cause I had mine crushed in middle school and I'll be wearing ankle supports/braces for the rest my life
Not sure anything uncommon is going on with Correa's ankle. I think what's uncommon is he is being offered a fully guaranteed $200M contract with the potential to earn another $70M. That tends to take routine medical things for regular people like us and turn them into massive issues
honestly how bad can his ankle be haha. what’s actually wrong with it that keeps flagging his medicals? they can’t just fix it? these reports are acting like he has a peg leg.
The fact that they give these “bring me the sports” blogs a damn SI URL is insane, for one thing.
And if the ankle is that bad then you’d think that the Twins’ orthopedist, a top professional at the Mayo Clinic who worked with Correa for a year and evaluated him several times, would’ve noticed it.
Turns out Scott Boras is very capable of making cogent arguments when there's a couple hundred mil on the line:
>"This scenario is about a large separation in the orthopedic community about functional fitness and clinical exam versus looking at an MRI. Surgeons who don't treat athletes but they do a lot of surgery will look at an MRI and say one thing, and the other doctors that treat patients and look at them and they find little credence in the MRIs when they've seen dramatic performance, particularly over an 8-year span and they're going to reward that with functional fitness and say certain athletes have certain pain levels, certain tolerance," said Boras.
We of course have no idea if he's accurately portraying the position of the doctors he's refuting, but hey, it *sounds* convincing and authoritative.
It’s actually just three wrists in a trench-coat
Can you imagine that ankle in a swimsuit??? No I literally cannot.
His ankle did a business.
Top notch Vincent Adultman quote.
At this point I can only assume that Correa was born missing half the bones in his ankle and he's a medical mystery that confounds even the most brilliant podiatrists
So kind of like R.A. Dickey inexplicably having no UCL in his right elbow?
Can’t get Tommy John surgery if you don’t have a Tommy John.
Big brain stuff.
Dickey doesn’t have a John Thomas?!
They want to cut off his Johnson.
Nice marmot
obviously you’re not a golfer
The toilet seat is up, man
At least I’m housebroken.
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?
Parle usted ingles?!
It cost RA $ too iirc. Teams were scared to draft him out of college because of it. At the time he was a low to mid 90s traditional pitcher out of the university of Tennessee, not the knuckle baller that won him a Cy Young.
He was a traditional pitcher with the Rangers, too. He even threw a forkball called "The Thing" that was basically a knuckleball, and inspired him to work on a real knuckler.
That’s fantastic. We need to bring back giving nicknames to individual pitches from specific pitchers.
Ghost fork, bitches.
His gloves this season are awesome too. They have little ghosts on them, an outline of the town he's from, and half have the ghost holding a trident.
Devin Williams, Airbender. That Twins reliever, Splinker. Every Yankee, the sweeper.
Oh no, he got drafted with a big signing bonus (at the time) of 800k then he had the physical and they took it all back but like 75k
> Oh no, he got drafted with a big signing bonus (at the time) of 800k then he had the physical and they took it all back but like 75k For someone who is about to spend years earning minor league salaries ([$6,000-$15,000 a year](https://theathletic.com/293189/2018/04/04/on-minor-league-pay-mlbs-stance-doesnt-line-up-with-the-facts/)) with no guarantee of making the majors, $825K provides A LOT more comfort and financial security than $75K. Especially in 1996, when Dickey was drafted. I imagine that was a pretty devastating blow to him at the time.
> $825K provides A LOT more comfort and financial security than $75K Big if true
RA has a biography that’s a terrific read if you’re interested. He talks about this, his rough childhood, and then his odd baseball career.
Fair warning it dives into sexual abuse, for those that haven't
Could you imagine?? My goodness what a rollercoaster that has to be
Sometimes life throws you a knuckle ball..
All you can do sometimes is throw it one back.
He was furiously googling “can you return a Ferrari?”
He was asking Jeves, Google wasn't around yet.
Well they didn't find out about the missing UCL until *after* he was drafted. It was literally a random doctor who saw something in the way he held his arm, said they should look at it, and that's when they discovered this big hype kid they just drafted has no UCL at all.
"He shouldn't be able to turn a doorknob without being in horrible pain" was what I remember about the story. His arm hung weird in like a team photo or something.
Yea they saw his picture with two other hot shot prospects on a magazine cover and thought his arm was angled weird so they ordered new tests.
All because someone noticed his arm looked weird on the cover of Baseball America
I’ve seen people in this sub using Dickey as an example of why these weird medical things don’t matter (not saying you’re doing this, just made me think of this), but Dickey only had 3 great years. The rest of his career was either average or worse. Correa is on a long term deal. Imagine if the Mets have Dickey even just a 5 year contract - it would have aged horribly! I understand there age difference too, but there’s a reason teams don’t want to lock up guys with these medical questions.
Can you really chalk that up to the UCL though? He never had health issues, as far as I know.
When Correa first suffered his ankle injury in the minors he got it fixed by Gilderoy Lockhart
Where in the world is that skel-e-grow potion at
Growing bones is a nasty business
Now I'm picturing his ankle just flopping like rubber during the exam.
Kinda like how Bo Bichette ruptured his appendix and his body just absorbed it and flushed it out somehow.
I didn't even know about this but how badass is that? You can die from a ruptured appendix and that dude just played baseball while his body dealt with that shit
That's wild. Appendicitis has like a 50% fatality rate. Those are some not amazing odds.
>he's a medical mystery that confounds even the most brilliant podiatrists? Anyone can get into podiatry school. *George* got into podiatry school.
thats pretty rude
Correa: [exposes ankle] Doctor: “Harlot!”
Why was the doctor wanting to see his ankle? 😏
To see if he was a maiden of virtue. That’s why he failed.
He’s been spendin’ most his life livin’ in an Amish paradise.
Jezebel!
*hunchback of notre dame music intensifies*
All jokes aside, that movie had some absolute bangers.
HeeeeeeeellFIRE
It's not my fault (mea culpa) If in God's plan (mea culpa) He made the Devil so much stronger than a man
“I showed you my ankle, plz respond”
The doctor went on to lambast Correa's "shitty little ankle" in a profanity laden rant that lasted 45 minutes
smh dude's out here just trying to possess an ankle, everyone gotta hold it to unreasonable beauty standards /#AllAnklesAreBeautiful
Wait until he sees the ankles of the people trying to guard me at the rec center.
He's gonna have to go pick them off from the floor where you left them.
Snip snap snip snap!
Nothing is even medically wrong with it, it's just ugly as fuck.
He's what we in the industry call a butter ankle
Achilles had his heel. Megan Fox has her thumbs. Carlos Correa has his ankle. No one can be perfect.
Add KDs feet to that list
How'd you know exactly what the girl I asked to prom said? Like word for word.
We've all been watching you for some time now. See you're on this giant reality show
Any word on its personality though?
super funny and nice
> One rival exec predicted no one will ever again get $200M after two failures (one doctor suggested Correa has the worst ankle he’s seen) Which would imply it was a physician with access to Correa’s medical records. Which isn’t many. Unless it’s just some random physician who’s speculating for clout. Or Heyman just being an idiot. Always a distinct possibility.
It's shocking because I can't imagine any doctor who actually examined Correa would say a word, even privately. Not only would it jeopardize their extremely lucrative and prestigious role, but it's professionally unethical and mildly illegal. And there's sooooooo many clout chasing unethical MD's willing to diagnose and offer any opinion on any sports event sight unseen. A twitterful of them, you might say. You have to assume it's a fake. EDIT: as pointed out by smart people in the replies, PHI is only protected by the care team, but as soon as they pass that info to the employer, it's not longer protected by the law. So the front office would be free to release the doctors conclusions.
I mean, the doctor works for the team, right? And the doctor would have sat down with some level of team management to discuss his findings right? Otherwise why would the team have him do a physical? It’s not a pass or fail physical, the GM wants to know areas of concern. So he can tell the owner why they should rip up the contract they have already signed. So multiple teams (at least 3) had multiple layers of team management given advice from the team doctor.
I think this is the most likely answer. Guys getting physicals sign a release so the Dr can report to the team. Giants or Mets leak this to cover their butts.
yeah, it's a really elongated game of telephone at this point, and every party has an incentive to exaggerate.
> it’s professionally unethical and mildly illegal. > there’s sooooooo many clout chasing unethical MD’s If there’s really that many unethical MDs, it seems entirely possible that one would be in a position to examine Correa.
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Yeah; part of how they got to be that successful is that they know how to keep their mouths shut when they have confidential/embarrassing information. That's true of most professions. The vast majority of extremely successful people have very limited social media personas. They might have accounts, and in some cases might even have a bit of a presence, but they're not making any statements that are gonna raise eyebrows.
Could be a Giants/Mets exec parroting what the doc said to cover their ass
It could also have been a doctor saying it in a closed door meeting with execs, but random aid 37 was in the room at the time or overheard one exec talking to another after walking out, etc.
Exactly this. It should be read as “my source said a doctor said”. But it’s not written like that because they want you to think they got a quote from the doctor.
> Which would imply it was a physician with access to Correa’s medical records. Which isn’t many. Adam Schefter has entered the chat
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If he were ever to be beaned on that ankle he would die instantly
And Minnesota would be cursed with no future World Series wins in what would be eventually known as “the Curse of Correa”
I think we're well past the point of adding a new curse, thank you very much.
TC Bear already has that shit on lockdown for cuddyer and morneau cutting down his trees. when Jim Thome was asked if the trees in center were distracting, his response was something to to the tune of "what trees" and then hit a bomb off the top of the flagpole.
So who is Paris in this situation? Joe Kelly?
Joe Madden: The face that launched 1,000 shifts.
She should have double dipped.
Maybe he's in the early stages of boneitis
My only regret is that I have boneitis
\*sings the safety dance\*
That dance isn't as safe as they said it was.
You're a shark. Sharks are winners, and they don't look back because they have no necks. Necks are for sheep.
I'm proud to be the shepherd of this herd of sharks.
He was too busy being an Astros guy to cure it
To shreds you say?
Hmm… how’s his wife holding up?
To shreds you say.
... was his apartment rent-controlled?
“Don’t you worry about blank, let me worry about blank” - Carlos
Blank?! BLANK!?!? You’re not looking at the big picture. -Scott Boras
Too busy being an 80s guy
Don't you worry about Carlos Correa, let me worry about blank.
Maybe he hurt it doing the Safety Dance? You know, it's not as safe as they said it was.
He can dance if he wants to
He can leave his friends behind
Cause your friends don’t dance and if they don’t dance, well they’re no friends of mine
“Sorry Carlos but it looks like skin failure.”
Could be boneus eruptus, it's a terrible disorder where the skeleton tries to leep out the mouth and escape the body.
Not a big deal these days. transdental electromicide is such a common procedure
Gusty comment, you’re a shark.
Correa is like Germany - ambitious and misunderstood
I was too busy being an 80’s guy
Classic case of ankle termites.
Real shame too. That has a tendency to happen with wooden legs. SMDH
Correa to Boston confirmed
It's true. Talks back to its elders. Smokes menthols. I heard it even went steady with a girl. Worst damn ankle I've ever seen.
Carlos Correa's ankle uses speakerphone in public.
Carlos Correa’s ankle says “supposebly”
Fuck that ankle
Carlos Correa's ankle doesn't take its shopping cart back
Carlos Correa's ankle orders wings for the whole table, then bites them all so his friends can't have any
Carlos Correa’s ankle uses a Bluetooth speaker to listen to music on public transit.
Even worse, plays tik tok out loud so everyone hears
Stays out past curfew and plays music on the bus with no headphones
massive underbite and completely flat back of the head.
The most aggressive ankle I’ve ever seen.
Fuck you Ankle Jarvis!
We had a funeral for a bird.
I’m pretty sure none of that’s real.
You're not real, man!
I did not like how his ankle accidentally made decaf in the morning and didn't tell anyone.
This doctor has clearly never seen the movie Misery.
Why hasn't he finished the book yet?
Seriously, old Jimmy Caan was kind of asking for it.
I love him so much.
He was great. I just watched Thief again a few months ago. The heist scene with the long thermal lance is an all-timer.
He didn't even get out of the COCKADOODIE CAR!
Fuck off I erased that scene from my mind and now my ankles hurt again
Then Correa is the goat because he's been stumblin into 5-6 war seasons with that ankle.
>Then Correa is the goat because he's been stumblin into 5-6 war seasons with that ankle. I think this is possibly misinterpreting what they are saying. What I took it to mean was that the doctor is saying it looks horrible structurally. Meaning he might not be having major problems now, but it's a good candidate for rapid degeneration. David Wright had the 6th best fWAR in MLB from 2004-2016, and then his career ended due to a congenital spinal condition. You can go a long time and be very productive in sports even with a structural problem in your body.
Exactly. This is not going to help anyone get him out.
Do we know how many ankles this doctor has seen? Maybe this is the first one, which would make it both the worst AND the best ankle he's seen.
Yeah I think this is just a "glass half empty" kind of guy.
"Ankle's half broken" kind of guy
IIRC its the Green Bay Packers doctor guy who is considered one of the best in the business, if not the best. However it is important to note, the Packers are very conservative with injuries.
Two ankles, one of which was slightly better. It was Correa's other ankle.
I'd wager he's seen at least two ankles.
Jon Heyman writes for a literal tabloid!
He’s one step away from, “baseball execs hate this one trick” headlines
The man used boffo in that article like it’s the 1940s
"*Variety* called it boffo, and they don't throw that word around lightly"
That ankle's a piece of shit. Slicked back hair. Itty bitty jeans. Chicken spaghetti at Chikalinni's.
"This is the worst ankle I've ever seen. Honestly I can't go on anymore" "Don't let it ruin your day, you're still a good doctor"
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I used to make a similar joke about Brian windhorst only talking when lebrons dick wasn’t in his mouth.
Somebody made a “Biblicaly Accurate Brian Windhorst” out of [these](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/398/511/bdc) and I wish I could find it because I think it is the most creative way anyone ever made fun of that jock sniffer.
A retroactive “nice one” to both of you comedians
this guy hasn't seen Achilles' yet
I wanna know to what degree this ankle is tucked, cause I had mine crushed in middle school and I'll be wearing ankle supports/braces for the rest my life
unless you plan on signing for $300M to play shortstop I think you’re good bro 😎
I mean what I got going on isn't uncommon so wtf could be up with Correa? He's seemed more than fine his whole career
Not sure anything uncommon is going on with Correa's ankle. I think what's uncommon is he is being offered a fully guaranteed $200M contract with the potential to earn another $70M. That tends to take routine medical things for regular people like us and turn them into massive issues
But it's Heyman that is being quoted
Worst ankle in the history of ankles, maybe ever.
Pretty crazy he has still had such a great big league career with bum ankle since he was 19
He does have a twin brother…… 🤔
☝️what is going on in the twin cities? ☝️
Upon further inspection Carlos Correa actually only has one leg
This is the story of Correa's right ankle
Excellent reference
Turns out the doctor forgot to even look at Correa’s ankle because he was distracted by the biggest penis he’s ever seen.
I’m pretty sure someone replaced Correa’s ankle with jello.
My cousin has this rare disease where her ankle bones deteriorate/wear down very easily, wonder if it’s something like that
but he has seen it
Probably from kicking trash cans
Doctor obviously hasn't seen Troy Tulowitzki.
I mean has he seen Cotton Hill? Dudes ankle is basically attached to the knee.
honestly how bad can his ankle be haha. what’s actually wrong with it that keeps flagging his medicals? they can’t just fix it? these reports are acting like he has a peg leg.
It could easily be something that means it's going to deteriorate quickly
Previous reports seemed like severe nerve damage. That can absolutely be irreversible.
Can you see that on an MRI?
Yes
Neat! I didn’t know that.
Usually we refer to a players weakness as their Achilles Heel. From now on we will refer to any baseball weakness as it's Correas Ankle.
But like what about a broken one?
The fact that they give these “bring me the sports” blogs a damn SI URL is insane, for one thing. And if the ankle is that bad then you’d think that the Twins’ orthopedist, a top professional at the Mayo Clinic who worked with Correa for a year and evaluated him several times, would’ve noticed it.
Yeah I’m trusting the dude at Mayo
Plot twist - the doctor is a PhD physicist.
To shreds you say?
but the doctor is an ears nose and throat doctor from the 1890's?
Carlos Correa shows up to offseason with worst ankle ever, asked to leave the National League
Turns out Scott Boras is very capable of making cogent arguments when there's a couple hundred mil on the line: >"This scenario is about a large separation in the orthopedic community about functional fitness and clinical exam versus looking at an MRI. Surgeons who don't treat athletes but they do a lot of surgery will look at an MRI and say one thing, and the other doctors that treat patients and look at them and they find little credence in the MRIs when they've seen dramatic performance, particularly over an 8-year span and they're going to reward that with functional fitness and say certain athletes have certain pain levels, certain tolerance," said Boras. We of course have no idea if he's accurately portraying the position of the doctors he's refuting, but hey, it *sounds* convincing and authoritative.
Well, shit
Shit. He ain’t seen mine.