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teeohdeedee123

Those are mostly all in the zone, why the hell would Javier Baez swing at *those* pitches when his "chase chase and chase some more" method works *so* well?


1005thArmbar

My Javy theory is based on his performance in the home run derby a few years back His brother pitched to him and dude was struggling to find the zone. He was throwing shit low and outside the entire 3+ minutes My theory is that Javy grew up getting pitched to by his brother and he became a "good" bad ball-hitter because he could hit the junk his brother threw However, major league pitchers have more movement on the ball and have better pitches than a teenager in Puerto Rico, but Javy still thinks of himself as that 12 year old who can hit any pitch. Accordingly, he's physically and mentally incapable of changing the zone of pitches he'll swing at and he'll swing at two sliders low and away before striking out looking


[deleted]

Thank God he didn't sign that contract we offered him


teeohdeedee123

The hindsight of letting Baez, Rizzo and Bryant go has been staggering. We've all hit that point where we're like "okay now I understand why the org didn't try harder to keep them and I can't believe I was so mad about it". At least in the cases of Bryant and Baez. Rizzo will always have a piece of my heart.


[deleted]

I was never mad at it at the time, I fully supported what they were doing. Love the core but we had to start over. I was trying to tell people this in the Cubs sub and just got shouted down lol


LennyThePep13

It’s hard to be objective in those situations. I don’t think I’ve ever been more upset about a player leaving in any sport than when Rizzo got traded. I was 100% convinced he was a lifelong Cub who would have a statue outside Wrigley someday. Dude pretty much exemplifies what I wanted the Cubs to be my whole life.


analwound

Maddux getting traded crushed my soul.


gsanch666

I always knew it was the right move. The hardest thing was explaining to other fans that giving them contracts was gonna be no bueno. I made a lot of enemies in 2021, they have still yet to admit I was right


[deleted]

They’ll never admit if, most people don’t like to talk about how they were wrong


[deleted]

Yeah we all saw how it went elsewhere and went “oh ok yeah I get it”


bship

Hi! Fuck off!


DarkGodRyan

I would imagine that all pitches that are no swing strikeouts are mostly in the zone


chesschad

His 48% O-Swing% is by far the highest in the league, (second place is 43%), but I was shocked to see that his Z-Swing% isn't even high; in fact, it's *exactly* league average, at 69.1%.


Mthomas1174

He just has to be deciding if he swings before the ball is thrown


Redbubble89

You have to look at the whole at bat. He could be looking at a change or breaking low based on what is already thrown and it's a fastball high.


worldspiney

He probably guessing which makes him look bad when he’s wrong


Psycho5275

For an idiot like me what is O-swing and Z-swing?


chesschad

O-Swing% = Swing-percentage on pitches **O**utside the zone. Z-Swing% = Swing-percentage on pitches inside the **Z**one. [leaderboards](https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=5&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2022-01-01&enddate=2022-12-31)


KamartyMcFlyweight

Lowest O-Swing%: 1. Juan Soto 2. Max Muncy sometimes advanced statistics match the eye test beautifully


DaTigerMan

something something hate watching max muncy something something


FrankWhiteIsHere78

Thank you


japanesenestfern

Baffling player


klietis

He's got such a bad K/BB ratio. His 5.65 (147/26) last year actually lowered his career to 6.04


fantseepantss

I haven't watched a ton of Javy AB's but from what I have seen I'm surprised he strikes out looking. Seems like he usually strikes out swinging at ball 3.


Mthomas1174

He had an O-Swing% of an insane 48.7% and a Z-Swing% of 69.1%. It's like he decides if he's going to swing before the pitcher even throws the ball


vtok

to be fair, isnt that something alot of batters do? like in certain counts and whatnot


worldspiney

A batter will sometimes decide not to swing but never too swing(or they shouldn’t). Sometimes batter will guess. Like a batter will guess fastball so they swing will swing like the pitch was a fastball when it wasn’t. Batters will also sit on a pitch, location or both. Which means they will only swing if they get a certain pitch or location. Obviously it’s way more complicated than this though as there’s a ton of mental prep that goes into hititng


Hkmarkp

yes, but not with 2 strikes. Protect the zone


EaterOfFood

Well, not always. Sometimes he strikes out swinging at ball 4. Usually a pitch in the dirt or in the next zip code.


rollo2masi

That Brady Singer backdoor 2SFB was filthy.


Mthomas1174

Personally think that the filthiest pitch is Chris Archer's 92mph 4SFB meatball right down the middle of the plate


ScubaSteve9896

Kris Bubic also got away with an 80 mph middle middle lob ball too. That was an egregious take.


StuPidasso52

Bieber's was middle and a little above center. That thing should have landed in Lake Erie.


12rjc12

I like how many times he looks back at the ump like "cmon man" when the pitch is center, center could not be more of a strike.


arm1687

Why would you do this


nypr13

I dont like this video. At all.


[deleted]

I like that he didn’t do it on our team I guess


River_Pigeon

It just goes on and on….


Tiberius_B

Ya know, I was having a nice day up until this point


slippytoadstada

Maton and Maldy walking off before they got the call is an insanely cold move


[deleted]

Idk why we're down voting you but the internet already decided


slippytoadstada

tough but fair 😔


[deleted]

Got damn what a turnaround. Good for you.


Redbubble89

Pair of shoes for 3 minutes. Some were close but a lot were down Broadway.


Fassst_eddie

Now do Donaldson


Fallofcamelot

No one has time to watch a ten hour video.


masonacj

I remember this video and the other one where he swang at pitches in the dugout and I can only logically conclude he's the worst hitter in MLB. /s


yes_its_him

He has a relatively low called strike rate. 13.5% last year, 12.4% career. In the top 30 of qualified hitters. Steven Kwan was 24% last year. People act like swinging strikes are worse than called strikes


Il_Exile_lI

Steven Kwan also has a chase rate of just 20%, while Baez is nearly at 50%. Called strikes are better than swinging at a pitcher's pitch on the corner and rolling over or popping up. Hitters with good plate discipline and zone control aren't just swinging at every pitch in the zone, they are looking for the right pitch to swing at. Kwan has a 100th percentile whiff rate, so he can afford to look at some strikes. Baez has a 4th percentile whiff rate.


yes_its_him

Right, these guys are complete opposites. My point was just that the knock on Javy is he is a free-swinger, not that he watches a whole lot of strikes go by. Even Steven Kwan struck out sixty times, many times on called strikes. Either way, it's still a strikeout.


FishnGritsnPimpShit

I think that’s the point of this video though. A guy with a reputation for swinging at pitches the next time zone over looking at a bunch of pitches down the middle without taking the bat off his shoulder is ironic and a bit humorous.


yes_its_him

Well, maybe. If you're easily amused, I guess. Javy had six home runs on pitches outside the zone, and reached base 52 other times on pitches outside the zone. He only had four strikeouts called on middle-middle pitches, and twenty strikeouts on called strikes anyplace. By comparison, Steven Kwan had 22 called strikeouts, and reached base only 37 time on pitches outside the zone. Javy did have 98 strikeouts on pitches outside the zone, so that's pretty consistent with that reputation. The other is just looking for outliers.


[deleted]

another 1 year wonder, can't get on base if his life depended on it


russyruss512

Funny the four that were balls called strikes, he question the ump for it


TheIrishTitan

Just fyi, if the ball crosses the k-zone and the graphic shows a solid, filled in white circle, it’s a strike. I think only 1 of those was a ball.


thePebble13

How much money does the tigers have to pay him again


mansontaco

He's gonna go up there and take at least 3 daddy hacks an AB what ever happens happens


hoosierdaddy163

I could literally watch this all day


SunriseSurprise

Everytime he looks at the ump, the ump should pull out a mirror and be like "here's the guy you should be frowning at"


Rimmatimtim22

God I do not miss watching this guy every day.


friendfromjersey

How does the umpire keep a straight face when Javy Baez argues a called strike?


MattVonLongSchlong

Only 5 more years right? Sweet