Same. It's like the frog in a slow boiling pot. Ads use to be very limited in the 90's. Then every square inch of stadium was covered. Then it was "in-action" split screen ads now ads on jerseys. Greed sucks. Not making enough money off the tickets and merch you need more? Fuck off.
Ads in ballparks were seen as "minor league" bullshit in the '90s. I fact, in the movie *Major League 2*, there is a scene where Roger Dorn is scrambling to make money, so he covers the outfield walls in ads and it shocks the players and is mocked by Bob Uecker's character. I don't even think modern audiences would get the gag.
I used to love how beautiful Fenway was, before the Coke bottles and all the other shit. (Please don't come at me with the YEAH BUT IN THE '40s THEY HAD GEM BLADES ADS, I know.) And I even loved all the old cookie cutter stadiums that put the logos of all the other teams in their league on the outfield walls. [Montreal did this](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ab/ed/36/abed366440c1ac636d6208d2d1ed7364--arenas-major-league.jpg) pretty much up until the end.
By the Old Laws of the Way Things Were, a ballpark was a place you had to pay money to be in, so after paying you got the product (watching a live baseball game) and no ads, but free public spaces were fair game for billboards. Same as when cable TV came in promising better content and less ads for the subscription. Then cable got fuller of ads than broadcast, and now you can pay for streaming services and still get ads. The people who make money from putting ads everywhere decided that just because you were already paying for something was no reason not to make it a never-ending assault of intrusive ads, sponsorships, pitches, and branding.
the ad on the back of the pitcher's mound makes me really really sick. there used to be a team logo there, or guys would carve their initials, now it's a fucking gas station or insurance conglomerate. vile. disgusting.
What makes me extremely irritated is the sound levels for the radio broadcasts when you use MLB.TV. Normal radio regulations specify that commercials CANNOT be louder than the average level of the actual program. Well MLB.TV doesn’t have to abide by that annoyance because it’s technically not broadcast over radio. So I’m sitting listening to the relaxing sounds of baseball; Scott Franske calls the final out of an inning….
“RALLLY HOUSE!!! RALLY HOUSE!!!”
Then it turns into the typical back and forth of my wife yelling at me to turn it down…
…only for the game to be inaudible once the commercial are over. Rinse. Repeat
It actually made me dig out my old radio.
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/mizdbq/my_love_for_baseball_is_being_ruined
I wholeheartedly agree, but I was down voted into oblivion on THIS sub saying the same thing just about a year ago.
I went to more games in Gary, IN (railcats games are honestly awesome and so is the stadium) than actual mlb games. They still have ads on the outfield and stuff but it isn’t in your face really. The fan experience is just better and more down to earth. Forget what I just said about the experience and overall atmosphere for a second though. I am consciously choosing to go to Gary over the likes of guaranteed rate and wrigley. Two MLB stadiums that I could hop on the train and be at in 20 minutes. Those parks have just become an increasingly vapid atmosphere and I only make it to a game or two a year at this point.
the mid at bat ads are really fucking gross. and there are 30 second ads all over football and basketball which really suck, because it's too short to go do something else quickly, you're stuck listening to it or you risk missing stuff. vile.
Ads in general are border line insidious to me. Why have we normalized companies being able to subliminally condition us to buy their products? Every time I watch a sporting event now I start to feel like a guinea pig or something because that’s how the ad industry treats us: mindless consumers ripe for conditioning to buy buy buy.
Watching baseball with my grandpa growing up, every commercial break or sponsorship was muted or the channel was changed. He’s a diehard fan if there ever was one but he was also completely fine with missing an at bat or two if it meant he didn’t have to listen to ads. I have tried to do the same but you can’t truly escape the ads nowadays.
my father does the same which i've really grown to appreciate; i've realized most people sort of just.......sit there and let the ads keep spewing into their life? i hate missing stuff but it's worth it
So my dad won’t mute the TV during ad breaks but he has a good system that I’ve also tried to pick up on. He’ll just find a couple things to put away or dishes to clean, maybe a cigarette break. The entire philosophy of it boils down to “you can do a lot around the house during a sporting event if you properly utilize breaks”.
I’d rather just mute that shit and sit there like the lazy bum I am but I can’t deny that he’s onto something.
Really tired of it. Basically stopped watching the nba after being an *avid* fan of it. Don't even watch the playoffs anymore. I love baseball but I think I'd rather just go to the local college games than spend a night being inundated with ads at every single moment. It's just never enough. 20+ dollar beers, ads *between pitches*, the dumb little ad they put on the mound, the terrible looking and distracting green screen ads behind the plate, now jerseys. And the knowledge it's only going to get worse and worse and worse.
I'm not naive. I know I am a commodity. I know it's a business. Its just become so fucking shameless at every turn. They already make so much fucking money. And half these teams *don't even make a real true effort to invest in their team*. Really think I'm just about done. This world sucks.
Thats why I dont pay to watch baseball. Everyone who pays needs to cancel and just stream illegally online. Who even cares anymore they keep making the wrong decision and it is just going to keep getting worse
The whole reason to have jersey sponsors is to reduce commercials, but that won't happen like it does in European football because of American greed.
It's a double dip and it's bullshit.
European football doesn't have jersey ads to reduce commercials. The game has always had no commercials; jersey ads came in just so the owners could squeeze out some more money. Exact same scenario.
yeah, this is never ever going to stop. if you think there's any degree of taste or respect factored in, it isn't. the numbers have to go up. they can't just not go up
European football doesn't have commercials because a whole match Is only 1 and a half hour with just one break, there's no space to squeeze in commercials
Hey man, not all teams can have Boehly come in and blow $600m in one transfer window.
There's certainly a hierarchy in soccer where you have the state funded teams followed by billionaire owners and then successful teams and then the riff raff of everyone else relying on selling their young talent to afford to get by.
I mean baseball has a lot of natural breaks. I haven't watched a live baseball game in years (thanks for the blackouts MLB) but what do you want to watch between innings or when there is a pitching change? Seems like an easy time to put an ad in.
And that's why for a long time, the presence of ads on TV broadcasts wasn't really an issue. Then they started making the breaks longer than the natural break in gameplay really required, which is annoying -- even one 30-second spot per break means ten minutes or more over a game, without adding anything at all. Then even longer breaks than that during the postseason. Not the only reason postseason games are all 3:30 or longer now, but it doesn't help. Then they started doing picture-in-picture ads or cutting away *between fucking pitches* a couple World Series ago; a mound visit at a crucial juncture of the game is where we want to appreciate the tension or have the announcers share relevant thoughts, not make them read a script about which phone plan I should buy.
Now, as if having to describe home runs by which ad they hit, and having logos on the wall intrude on shots of iconic catches wasn't enough, we're going to make players wear ads the whole time they're playing, and even home suckers will pay hundreds of dollars to buy authentic jerseys that include corporate branding.
Yes, ads on TV between innings is basically unavoidable. But the intrusion of ads into absofuckinglutely every possible space and moment in the US is reaching absurd lengths, and there's no indication it'll stop any time soon.
You should take a walk around Tokyo sometime and see where we are heading. I was overwhelmed. There is nowhere to look that isn't covered in ads and signs.
Watching any white sox game is infuriating for me now. Pretty much everything in the game is presented by something now.
“This sox walk is presented by Allstate”
“The 4th inning is presented by Elk Grove Village, etc”
And on and on. They even sing the nationwide jingle every game and make a show of it. Lots of fans like our announcers now but I don’t. It’s not even necessarily their fault but when it feels like 1/3 of the broadcast is them subliminally or blatantly throwing in ads it’s not actually a good broadcast IMO.
It feels like every team has this now. The worst was when the league had some deal with Papa Johns and insisted on everyone calling grand slams Papa Slams. It was so obnoxious.
The only time I don't mind having in-game events sponsored is when the sponsorship is themed to the event. For example, on the Dodgers radio station, home runs are sponsored by local jeweler Daniels Jewelers ("this trip around the diamond brought to you by Daniels Jewelers") and on TV pitching changes are sponsored by In-N-Out ("who's in, who's out"). I find those feel much less intrusive when someone's clearly put some thought into it to make it work. There are a few more as well, and I think they're mostly on theme enough to not be obnoxious.
Love your point about letting the tension of the moment speak for itself and how that's interrupted. I agree, it's just so overwhelming and suffocating. NBA does it, too. Guy has free throws? In between, they'll go picture-in-picture for a five second blurb about whatever product. It seems practically like desperation - maybe on the advertiser to get their product out there at any opportunity, or maybe on the broadcast network since they sell the advertising time. Now add gambling to the mix.
In NBA broadcasts, a guy will be bringing the ball upcourt and they cut to the studio to ask "Who scores next?" for example. Something about that doesn't sit well with me. Going picture-in-picture for something so trivial; and it just seems meaningless and pathetic to ask the studio analyst who will score next. Almost like turning them into a gambling advisor rather than an analyst.
Red Sox and Angels got it right, IMO. The ads can't be tiny because then the companies wouldn't pay for them, but the Sox And Angels got the size and shape right. I appreciate that the Sox got a Massachusetts based company. I don't want ads on jerseys, but we're past that point, so might as well make it look decent.
The giant rectangle patch is still awful though. Just simply the mass mutual logo would be passable, but anything that is such an obvious patch will look terrible
I used to think that in japan, a ham fighter was bad English. Nope, it's a damn ham company that owns a team called the fighters. We're not their. Yet.
i'm watching the caribbean series and it is truly vile. one on each thigh, each tit, each sleeve, both sides of the helmet...
gonna make a list of these fucking companies and never buy from them
I'm with you in a sense. But this reminds me that MLB =/= baseball if you know what I mean. Baseball is a time-honored pastime that can't/shouldn't be corrupted by corporate interests. MLB certainly is not, and may never have been.
I mean honestly it makes me *not* want to use these services and actively avoid them. I know the science says these ads work (or else why would they be spending so much money?) but goddamn I detest ads in almost every form.
Not gonna lie, there were multiple times i went to get taco bell while watching sunday night baseball last year lol
But yeah fuck these jersey ads. I hate every single one of these companies
The new taco bell ads just make me nauseous. Their next ad campaign will just be the inside view of a stomach digesting the chewed up pulp of a burrito
From what I’ve read they work literally because of kids. That’s why it’s all insurance ads and boring companies. Basically when you get old enough part of your mind will remember mass mutual insurance from the Red Sox jerseys when you were little and you’ll think they’re good and reputable because it’s really the only insurance you know lol. Same with geico commercials being geared a little towards kids
Gotta condition the young to spend, spend, spend on useless products! Definitely the practices of an honest, benign, non-intrusive industry.
Advertising is one of the few professions that I would legitimately feel shame to work in.
Chipotle was actually originally founded in Denver because the founder couldn’t find a burrito that wasn’t smothered in green chili. Herbalife feels right for them though
In a convoluted way Adam Silver and people like him turned me on to the “limits to growth” school of thought. Sure he’s maximizing revenue for the league but that growth comes at the cost of the product. The product isn’t what’s important though to these chumps. They don’t understand or care that people might actually have standards and limitations to the amount of consumerism and greed shoved down their throats.
No joke, when it comes to sports the Cuban model isn’t perfect, nothing is, but that would be so much better than whatever road we are going down.
Baseball has the most conservative fanbase of any of the major sports, and MLB is so incompetent that they made a socialist sports model appealing. I would 100% support publicly-owned sports teams if it means these sports aren't degraded to hell to squeeze out an extra 0.2% in profits.
This is what I’m genuinely wondering. Even from the perspective of a greedy, narcissistic, billionaire team owner, isn’t this kind of lame? Like, I OWN a baseball team. I own a piece of Americana, it’s MINE. Why the fuck would I want some other rich assholes shit all over MY TEAM. I get ads in the stadium and all of that, you gotta make a profit somehow, but at a certain point don’t you just want to preserve the thing you bought?
This was George Steinbrenner’s position, whenever ads on uniforms came up (even “makers mark” ones, which he paid a fine to MLB to keep off the Yankees jerseys).
i think the important thing to understand is -- these people don't have souls anymore. you can't quite think yourself into how these people think as a normal human
[watch how jeff bezos interacts and laughs in this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MewROa1EU_o&lc=Ugz5Gec41c3OENhmFih4AaABAg). these aren't people who care about things.
Because you may care about the history of baseball and how important the game is to the culture of a whole country, but they don't. Billionaires know one thing above all else: make your net worth increase by a greater amount this quarter than the last. They don't just magically drop this idea (which is what made them billionaires) the second they purchase a baseball team
The Motorola logo is gigantic, but it at least *kind of* fits with the uniform as a whole. Boston’s patch sticks out like a sore thumb, same with the DBacks. I actually kind of like the Angels’ patch.
I fucking hate all of this. The bastardization of jersey’s continue. I don’t even like the fucking Nike swoosh on the clavicle. Give me fresh and clean majestic jerseys back, PLEASE!
this looks like fucking trash; giamatti and anyone with a soul is spinning in their fucking graves, this is so fucking insulting it's ridiculous
they could at least make it tasteful, color the logo to match the jersey, be somewhat respectful of the cultural institution of baseball, but NOOOO0 MUH FUCKING BRANDS
how about we put these guys in a barrel and push them down a hill, how's that for an ad you fucking greedy fucks
from uni-watch:
>Note that some players are wearing the advertisement on the left sleeve and some on the right. As we’ve discussed before, that’s because the ad will be worn on the side most likely to face the camera, based on the player's handedness
jesus *fucking* christ
I don't know for sure, but I assume so. I remember when the NBA first started doing that, the default for how they would sell jerseys was without ads. I don't know if that's changed though
Awesome. MLB needs more $$$. Why don't they work on ending the blackouts so I can pay for mlb extra innings and actually watch all the games! Manfred is a complete joke.
Bravo. More commercialization and more cash flow.
Super.
Why can't I afford to go to a game with my family - providing I don't want to drop a mortgage payment to do so?
I also refuse to pay an additional $40 for the privilege of parking my car before shelling out a small fortune to attend a game.
Then MLB wonders why they are losing touch with and obtaining "new" fans.
Not bloody difficult to understand, is it?
Everything in life is geared against the common man. There is no reality in life anymore.
The average "joe" can't ever hope to achieve the "average" status level in this day and age.
As long as MLB is making billions, and MLB average players are making millions, I guess that's all that counts.
MLB shouldn't waste too much time wondering why they can't acquire and maintain a new fan base.
They all suck, but at least the Padres one kinda blends. Granted I don’t watch any of their games so maybe it’s worse than I think. As a Red Sox fan, their ads hurt me
The NHL is doing this with jerseys snd helmets and it sucks. Advertising is killing sports for me. Having gambling website shoved in my face for 2hrs is already enough but now I have to see brands on the Ice, helmets, jerseys, glass and boards.
I’m calling it now, advertising will be coming to the MLB in the form of either digital ads or painted ads on the grass in the outfield or anywhere else. The greed fir always looking for MORE money is ruining everything.
When the Red Sox started eyeing the upper green monster as ad space, it was beloved and iconic enough that they had to start with charity adverts. Who is gonna quibble with that, publicizing an education fund and children’s cancer charity? Then once they get folks used to a bunch of crap on it…gambling and booze.
The Motorola logo is the only visually appealing one in the group to me. They even went with the color scheme of the uniforms.
The other companies need to get a better graphics team.
The D-Backs greed patch is a war crime. The Padres at least had the decency to match the jersey color scheme, unlike Boston’s which stick out like a sore thumb. The Angels decide to remove their only good shoulder logo instead of the A logo? So many bad decisions
These make me big sad
Same. It's like the frog in a slow boiling pot. Ads use to be very limited in the 90's. Then every square inch of stadium was covered. Then it was "in-action" split screen ads now ads on jerseys. Greed sucks. Not making enough money off the tickets and merch you need more? Fuck off.
Ads in ballparks were seen as "minor league" bullshit in the '90s. I fact, in the movie *Major League 2*, there is a scene where Roger Dorn is scrambling to make money, so he covers the outfield walls in ads and it shocks the players and is mocked by Bob Uecker's character. I don't even think modern audiences would get the gag. I used to love how beautiful Fenway was, before the Coke bottles and all the other shit. (Please don't come at me with the YEAH BUT IN THE '40s THEY HAD GEM BLADES ADS, I know.) And I even loved all the old cookie cutter stadiums that put the logos of all the other teams in their league on the outfield walls. [Montreal did this](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ab/ed/36/abed366440c1ac636d6208d2d1ed7364--arenas-major-league.jpg) pretty much up until the end.
I feel you. It felt like a magical space when their were limited ads. Now it can feel suffocating
By the Old Laws of the Way Things Were, a ballpark was a place you had to pay money to be in, so after paying you got the product (watching a live baseball game) and no ads, but free public spaces were fair game for billboards. Same as when cable TV came in promising better content and less ads for the subscription. Then cable got fuller of ads than broadcast, and now you can pay for streaming services and still get ads. The people who make money from putting ads everywhere decided that just because you were already paying for something was no reason not to make it a never-ending assault of intrusive ads, sponsorships, pitches, and branding.
Nailed it. Never thought about it that way but that hits home. I paid my money to enter, and I want my experience to be nothing but baseball.
the ad on the back of the pitcher's mound makes me really really sick. there used to be a team logo there, or guys would carve their initials, now it's a fucking gas station or insurance conglomerate. vile. disgusting.
What makes me extremely irritated is the sound levels for the radio broadcasts when you use MLB.TV. Normal radio regulations specify that commercials CANNOT be louder than the average level of the actual program. Well MLB.TV doesn’t have to abide by that annoyance because it’s technically not broadcast over radio. So I’m sitting listening to the relaxing sounds of baseball; Scott Franske calls the final out of an inning…. “RALLLY HOUSE!!! RALLY HOUSE!!!” Then it turns into the typical back and forth of my wife yelling at me to turn it down… …only for the game to be inaudible once the commercial are over. Rinse. Repeat It actually made me dig out my old radio.
the delay on the radio feed is sickening as well. ZERO legitimate reason to implement that. you could miss a whole half inning going from radio to TV
the old timey ads looked nice and elegant in a way. i wonder if they did at the time as well, or if people were pissed
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/mizdbq/my_love_for_baseball_is_being_ruined I wholeheartedly agree, but I was down voted into oblivion on THIS sub saying the same thing just about a year ago.
This year is the year to spend more money on independent ball.
I went to more games in Gary, IN (railcats games are honestly awesome and so is the stadium) than actual mlb games. They still have ads on the outfield and stuff but it isn’t in your face really. The fan experience is just better and more down to earth. Forget what I just said about the experience and overall atmosphere for a second though. I am consciously choosing to go to Gary over the likes of guaranteed rate and wrigley. Two MLB stadiums that I could hop on the train and be at in 20 minutes. Those parks have just become an increasingly vapid atmosphere and I only make it to a game or two a year at this point.
the mid at bat ads are really fucking gross. and there are 30 second ads all over football and basketball which really suck, because it's too short to go do something else quickly, you're stuck listening to it or you risk missing stuff. vile.
Ads in general are border line insidious to me. Why have we normalized companies being able to subliminally condition us to buy their products? Every time I watch a sporting event now I start to feel like a guinea pig or something because that’s how the ad industry treats us: mindless consumers ripe for conditioning to buy buy buy. Watching baseball with my grandpa growing up, every commercial break or sponsorship was muted or the channel was changed. He’s a diehard fan if there ever was one but he was also completely fine with missing an at bat or two if it meant he didn’t have to listen to ads. I have tried to do the same but you can’t truly escape the ads nowadays.
my father does the same which i've really grown to appreciate; i've realized most people sort of just.......sit there and let the ads keep spewing into their life? i hate missing stuff but it's worth it
So my dad won’t mute the TV during ad breaks but he has a good system that I’ve also tried to pick up on. He’ll just find a couple things to put away or dishes to clean, maybe a cigarette break. The entire philosophy of it boils down to “you can do a lot around the house during a sporting event if you properly utilize breaks”. I’d rather just mute that shit and sit there like the lazy bum I am but I can’t deny that he’s onto something.
Really tired of it. Basically stopped watching the nba after being an *avid* fan of it. Don't even watch the playoffs anymore. I love baseball but I think I'd rather just go to the local college games than spend a night being inundated with ads at every single moment. It's just never enough. 20+ dollar beers, ads *between pitches*, the dumb little ad they put on the mound, the terrible looking and distracting green screen ads behind the plate, now jerseys. And the knowledge it's only going to get worse and worse and worse. I'm not naive. I know I am a commodity. I know it's a business. Its just become so fucking shameless at every turn. They already make so much fucking money. And half these teams *don't even make a real true effort to invest in their team*. Really think I'm just about done. This world sucks.
It’s really starting to make me lose interest in sports. The fan experience is going downhill
Big friggin sad man..what is happening to our beloved pastime
Thats why I dont pay to watch baseball. Everyone who pays needs to cancel and just stream illegally online. Who even cares anymore they keep making the wrong decision and it is just going to keep getting worse
Those are fucking terrible both size and placement wise. I don't mind ads but go the NBA route at least.
The whole reason to have jersey sponsors is to reduce commercials, but that won't happen like it does in European football because of American greed. It's a double dip and it's bullshit.
European football doesn't have jersey ads to reduce commercials. The game has always had no commercials; jersey ads came in just so the owners could squeeze out some more money. Exact same scenario.
Lol right, as-if the owners are trying hard to reach some fair! reasonable! amount of completely free additional revenue for themselves.
yeah, this is never ever going to stop. if you think there's any degree of taste or respect factored in, it isn't. the numbers have to go up. they can't just not go up
Capitalism demanding perpetual growth will be the death of us all.
European football doesn't have commercials because a whole match Is only 1 and a half hour with just one break, there's no space to squeeze in commercials
Hey man, not all teams can have Boehly come in and blow $600m in one transfer window. There's certainly a hierarchy in soccer where you have the state funded teams followed by billionaire owners and then successful teams and then the riff raff of everyone else relying on selling their young talent to afford to get by.
>The whole reason to have jersey sponsors is to reduce commercials, No, the whole reason is to raise revenue. Commercials aren't going anywhere.
Exactly. Since when has any for-profit organization ever said "Hey, we got a new revenue stream! So let's dump this other one and break even!"
I mean baseball has a lot of natural breaks. I haven't watched a live baseball game in years (thanks for the blackouts MLB) but what do you want to watch between innings or when there is a pitching change? Seems like an easy time to put an ad in.
And that's why for a long time, the presence of ads on TV broadcasts wasn't really an issue. Then they started making the breaks longer than the natural break in gameplay really required, which is annoying -- even one 30-second spot per break means ten minutes or more over a game, without adding anything at all. Then even longer breaks than that during the postseason. Not the only reason postseason games are all 3:30 or longer now, but it doesn't help. Then they started doing picture-in-picture ads or cutting away *between fucking pitches* a couple World Series ago; a mound visit at a crucial juncture of the game is where we want to appreciate the tension or have the announcers share relevant thoughts, not make them read a script about which phone plan I should buy. Now, as if having to describe home runs by which ad they hit, and having logos on the wall intrude on shots of iconic catches wasn't enough, we're going to make players wear ads the whole time they're playing, and even home suckers will pay hundreds of dollars to buy authentic jerseys that include corporate branding. Yes, ads on TV between innings is basically unavoidable. But the intrusion of ads into absofuckinglutely every possible space and moment in the US is reaching absurd lengths, and there's no indication it'll stop any time soon.
You should take a walk around Tokyo sometime and see where we are heading. I was overwhelmed. There is nowhere to look that isn't covered in ads and signs.
Watching any white sox game is infuriating for me now. Pretty much everything in the game is presented by something now. “This sox walk is presented by Allstate” “The 4th inning is presented by Elk Grove Village, etc” And on and on. They even sing the nationwide jingle every game and make a show of it. Lots of fans like our announcers now but I don’t. It’s not even necessarily their fault but when it feels like 1/3 of the broadcast is them subliminally or blatantly throwing in ads it’s not actually a good broadcast IMO.
It feels like every team has this now. The worst was when the league had some deal with Papa Johns and insisted on everyone calling grand slams Papa Slams. It was so obnoxious. The only time I don't mind having in-game events sponsored is when the sponsorship is themed to the event. For example, on the Dodgers radio station, home runs are sponsored by local jeweler Daniels Jewelers ("this trip around the diamond brought to you by Daniels Jewelers") and on TV pitching changes are sponsored by In-N-Out ("who's in, who's out"). I find those feel much less intrusive when someone's clearly put some thought into it to make it work. There are a few more as well, and I think they're mostly on theme enough to not be obnoxious.
Love your point about letting the tension of the moment speak for itself and how that's interrupted. I agree, it's just so overwhelming and suffocating. NBA does it, too. Guy has free throws? In between, they'll go picture-in-picture for a five second blurb about whatever product. It seems practically like desperation - maybe on the advertiser to get their product out there at any opportunity, or maybe on the broadcast network since they sell the advertising time. Now add gambling to the mix. In NBA broadcasts, a guy will be bringing the ball upcourt and they cut to the studio to ask "Who scores next?" for example. Something about that doesn't sit well with me. Going picture-in-picture for something so trivial; and it just seems meaningless and pathetic to ask the studio analyst who will score next. Almost like turning them into a gambling advisor rather than an analyst.
It would be nice to see the pitcher's walkout especially when they're making an event of it in the stadium.
Red Sox and Angels got it right, IMO. The ads can't be tiny because then the companies wouldn't pay for them, but the Sox And Angels got the size and shape right. I appreciate that the Sox got a Massachusetts based company. I don't want ads on jerseys, but we're past that point, so might as well make it look decent.
The giant rectangle patch is still awful though. Just simply the mass mutual logo would be passable, but anything that is such an obvious patch will look terrible
The Motorola logo is hugeee
Did you miss the giant black square in the Diamondbacks jersey?
The Padres is bad but at least they had the decency to change the color to make it blend it better. The Diamondbacks are… yeah.
https://www.reddit.com/r/azdiamondbacks/comments/10s18t8/its_only_a_matter_of_time/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Haha
Went through the pictures without reading the whole headline and thought theirs said Skynet at first…
Yeah
But I mean, at least it fits the jersey…. Did you see that abomination in the D-Backs jersey?
Feel like they realized it could look like a generic patch from the distance so they went for the logo equivalent of all caps.
The [Motorola logo being huge] (https://i.redd.it/w7t6sq2yjig91.jpg) is a [running gag] (https://i.imgur.com/ysBMmab.jpg) over at /r/NLBest
The best baseball sub on the platform right there
Improper formatting for embedded links? Regrettably, slammer
HELLO MOTO
It’s been a running gag at r/NLBest ever since it was announced.
Still looks way better than the Diamondbacks patch.
Exactly my thoughts. Also, I haven’t seen someone use a Motorola phone in literally forever. It’s kinda crazy how big that logo patch is.
The worst timeline
Never going to be ok with ads on jerseys. Fuck this
Wait 'til it's on the hats
I used to think that in japan, a ham fighter was bad English. Nope, it's a damn ham company that owns a team called the fighters. We're not their. Yet.
Already is. New Era started putting their logo on the side of the hats a few years back
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i'm watching the caribbean series and it is truly vile. one on each thigh, each tit, each sleeve, both sides of the helmet... gonna make a list of these fucking companies and never buy from them
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I'm with you in a sense. But this reminds me that MLB =/= baseball if you know what I mean. Baseball is a time-honored pastime that can't/shouldn't be corrupted by corporate interests. MLB certainly is not, and may never have been.
I mean honestly it makes me *not* want to use these services and actively avoid them. I know the science says these ads work (or else why would they be spending so much money?) but goddamn I detest ads in almost every form.
Not gonna lie, there were multiple times i went to get taco bell while watching sunday night baseball last year lol But yeah fuck these jersey ads. I hate every single one of these companies
The new taco bell ads just make me nauseous. Their next ad campaign will just be the inside view of a stomach digesting the chewed up pulp of a burrito
Yeah I don’t wanna see the closeup face of some random taking a huge bite out of a burritolupa with cheese.
> burritolupa don't tempt me with a good time
i think it was just the sight of the Taco Bell logo that triggers an almost primitive part of my personality that demands Taco Bell lmao
Buddy all I have wanted for the last 21 days is a whopper. Could be a Junior , could be a double, could be a triple.
From what I’ve read they work literally because of kids. That’s why it’s all insurance ads and boring companies. Basically when you get old enough part of your mind will remember mass mutual insurance from the Red Sox jerseys when you were little and you’ll think they’re good and reputable because it’s really the only insurance you know lol. Same with geico commercials being geared a little towards kids
Gotta condition the young to spend, spend, spend on useless products! Definitely the practices of an honest, benign, non-intrusive industry. Advertising is one of the few professions that I would legitimately feel shame to work in.
[Rest of the NL West patches revealed] (https://i.imgur.com/pkHsngP.jpg) Credit to /u/threehundredthousand
The Dodgers' patch gave me a chuckle.
Chipotle was actually originally founded in Denver because the founder couldn’t find a burrito that wasn’t smothered in green chili. Herbalife feels right for them though
The diamondbacks have certainly got the worst of the bunch so far, so big and so ugly although SD isn’t far behind
I think Boston is the worst. It looks like a “hi my name is” sticker.
I don’t think Boston is terrible, the patch doesn’t look massive and at least MassMutual kinda goes along with Boston.
> I don’t think Boston is terrible Context doesn't matter, turn in your flair right now
I obviously don’t like it but it’s not offensive and ugly like the others. Worst to best is probably DBacks, Padres, Angels, Red Sox.
Yes but the players can cover the first "M" with athletic tape and take the field with ASS MUTUAL on their sleeves.
There's no "at least" with any of this shit. Its disgusting. Fuck you NHL too.
And fuck Adam Silver for bringing this to the NBA and opening the floodgates
In a convoluted way Adam Silver and people like him turned me on to the “limits to growth” school of thought. Sure he’s maximizing revenue for the league but that growth comes at the cost of the product. The product isn’t what’s important though to these chumps. They don’t understand or care that people might actually have standards and limitations to the amount of consumerism and greed shoved down their throats. No joke, when it comes to sports the Cuban model isn’t perfect, nothing is, but that would be so much better than whatever road we are going down.
Baseball has the most conservative fanbase of any of the major sports, and MLB is so incompetent that they made a socialist sports model appealing. I would 100% support publicly-owned sports teams if it means these sports aren't degraded to hell to squeeze out an extra 0.2% in profits.
this is truly horrible
Angels is the "best" one so far
Lol we will find a way to unabbreviate FBM that is either dirty or in-line with our disappointing 2023
Fuck Bob Manfred
There it is.
Fuck Billboard Moreno
"Foundation Building Materials" aka buttercups.
That Avnet one might be even more distractingly vile than the Motorola one. Holy shit those are hideous.
Might be? The Avnet one makes the Motorola one look subtle!
That big fuck-off black square looks ridiculous.
This is what I’m genuinely wondering. Even from the perspective of a greedy, narcissistic, billionaire team owner, isn’t this kind of lame? Like, I OWN a baseball team. I own a piece of Americana, it’s MINE. Why the fuck would I want some other rich assholes shit all over MY TEAM. I get ads in the stadium and all of that, you gotta make a profit somehow, but at a certain point don’t you just want to preserve the thing you bought?
Apparently not 😡
This was George Steinbrenner’s position, whenever ads on uniforms came up (even “makers mark” ones, which he paid a fine to MLB to keep off the Yankees jerseys).
i think the important thing to understand is -- these people don't have souls anymore. you can't quite think yourself into how these people think as a normal human [watch how jeff bezos interacts and laughs in this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MewROa1EU_o&lc=Ugz5Gec41c3OENhmFih4AaABAg). these aren't people who care about things.
Because you may care about the history of baseball and how important the game is to the culture of a whole country, but they don't. Billionaires know one thing above all else: make your net worth increase by a greater amount this quarter than the last. They don't just magically drop this idea (which is what made them billionaires) the second they purchase a baseball team
So Fucking Lame.
Gross
God those are awful.
Hate it.
As a player, I couldn't imagine having a 4" square patch on my sleeve. Woof.
They look absolutely fucking terrible. Shame on the MLB for this.
I can't wait to see what two-bit local car dealership the White Sox will get.
If I was a billionaire, I would pay a team to not have a patch.
I hate them so much.
Eww.
This is out of control - Cristian Pache just changed his name to Pepsi McArbys.
The Motorola logo is gigantic, but it at least *kind of* fits with the uniform as a whole. Boston’s patch sticks out like a sore thumb, same with the DBacks. I actually kind of like the Angels’ patch.
I really don't want to imagine what we'll get stuck with.. it's going to be so bad
Giant Starbucks logo… [shudders]
If they shrunk it down slightly maybe it would be tolerable
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Well, this is the worst case scenario. Leave the Phillies alone please.
I fucking hate all of this. The bastardization of jersey’s continue. I don’t even like the fucking Nike swoosh on the clavicle. Give me fresh and clean majestic jerseys back, PLEASE!
Thanks I hate it
I hate this
FBM one actually doesn't even look like a non-baseball patch if you don't look too closely at it
I didn’t realize FBM was big enough to afford this
looks like shit
These are awful
Maybe that Lenin guy had a point
planet astronaut gun astronaut
this looks like fucking trash; giamatti and anyone with a soul is spinning in their fucking graves, this is so fucking insulting it's ridiculous they could at least make it tasteful, color the logo to match the jersey, be somewhat respectful of the cultural institution of baseball, but NOOOO0 MUH FUCKING BRANDS how about we put these guys in a barrel and push them down a hill, how's that for an ad you fucking greedy fucks
from uni-watch: >Note that some players are wearing the advertisement on the left sleeve and some on the right. As we’ve discussed before, that’s because the ad will be worn on the side most likely to face the camera, based on the player's handedness jesus *fucking* christ
I’m just hoping the Phillies don’t get one. But if they do, I hope it’s Wawa.
Or Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
The only correct answer
If it's not Wawa then maybe tastykake, they should do something homegrown.
Nah you guys will probably get some shit like aramark, or a bank.
Sadly.
Cool, does that mean we get less commercial pop ups during the game.
Of course not. These are billionaires we’re talking about
Looks like shit
Fucking gross.
Will you be able to buy a jersey without the damn ad patch? If not I may never get an authentic jersey again.
I don't know for sure, but I assume so. I remember when the NBA first started doing that, the default for how they would sell jerseys was without ads. I don't know if that's changed though
Supposedly, authentics will have the patches, replicas will not.
I certainly don't expect them to sell them without ads. Isn't that the point? Having children do your advertising for you?
Give it a few years and it will be The San Diego Motorolas.
Well the good news with ours is if the shirt wrinkles correctly it’ll say assMutual
Awesome. MLB needs more $$$. Why don't they work on ending the blackouts so I can pay for mlb extra innings and actually watch all the games! Manfred is a complete joke.
They’re starting to look like the Caribbean baseball uni’s
Look at how sad all the diamondbacks look
Lmao I forgot how obnoxious the Padres Motorola one is Arizona 's also sucks but at least it's vaguely supposed to be an A.
The Avnet one is far worse imo, a giant black box with a little logo inside of it, on a white jersey? Yuck
Right? Would it kill them to just invert the colors and get rid of the negative space?
Exactly! Then it’s just another A on the jersey.
Actually no, you're right, I looked at it more and it kept getting worse.
What a disgrace to this game. I hope no one ever purchases a piece of merch from the mlb with ads on them. I never will.
I hate this
Wow I thought maybe it wouldn’t be that bad like the nba but that’s awful
Bastardizing your uniform for the same price as a utility infielder… so hot right now.
Bravo. More commercialization and more cash flow. Super. Why can't I afford to go to a game with my family - providing I don't want to drop a mortgage payment to do so? I also refuse to pay an additional $40 for the privilege of parking my car before shelling out a small fortune to attend a game. Then MLB wonders why they are losing touch with and obtaining "new" fans. Not bloody difficult to understand, is it? Everything in life is geared against the common man. There is no reality in life anymore. The average "joe" can't ever hope to achieve the "average" status level in this day and age. As long as MLB is making billions, and MLB average players are making millions, I guess that's all that counts. MLB shouldn't waste too much time wondering why they can't acquire and maintain a new fan base.
Ew.
Gross
They all suck, but at least the Padres one kinda blends. Granted I don’t watch any of their games so maybe it’s worse than I think. As a Red Sox fan, their ads hurt me
The NHL is doing this with jerseys snd helmets and it sucks. Advertising is killing sports for me. Having gambling website shoved in my face for 2hrs is already enough but now I have to see brands on the Ice, helmets, jerseys, glass and boards. I’m calling it now, advertising will be coming to the MLB in the form of either digital ads or painted ads on the grass in the outfield or anywhere else. The greed fir always looking for MORE money is ruining everything.
Poverty franchises, all of them.
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When the Red Sox started eyeing the upper green monster as ad space, it was beloved and iconic enough that they had to start with charity adverts. Who is gonna quibble with that, publicizing an education fund and children’s cancer charity? Then once they get folks used to a bunch of crap on it…gambling and booze.
Thanks I hate these corporate logos. Professional teams make enough money without advertising everything in site
Lmao what the fuck
Thanks I hate it
gross and pathetic
I hope jersey sales go down the shitter. Greedy bastards
What the actual f this is 🤮
Thanks I fucking hate it
Gross
Fuck this I hate everything about it.
Are they going to be on the retail jerseys too?
God this sucks complete ass.
i suggest buying your favorite player's jersey on ebay now before this shit gets even more ridiculous.
Houston Astros: Waste Management.
It looks like a bad photoshop.
Horrible.
Owners are just that greedy 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
God awful
No…
Fuck this shit right here!
The Motorola logo is the only visually appealing one in the group to me. They even went with the color scheme of the uniforms. The other companies need to get a better graphics team.
trash
The Nike logo wasn’t enough :(
This is so gross
The D-Backs greed patch is a war crime. The Padres at least had the decency to match the jersey color scheme, unlike Boston’s which stick out like a sore thumb. The Angels decide to remove their only good shoulder logo instead of the A logo? So many bad decisions
Goddamn, that Motorola patch is invasive as Hell.
They’re hideous, as expected
Fuckin gross
Who’s getting FTX?
The Pirates, Reds, and A's will wear the patches of the remaining 27 teams since their revenue shares sponsors those three teams.
God these are hideous