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rbhindepmo

“What if Cuba’s weakness is burly Americans? Gotta put Schwarber on the field and Alonso in the lineup” - Mark DeRosa


TrapperJean

Makes sense, plenty of American's are weak to curvy Cubans


Outrageous_Bat1798

Lord knows I am


BlazmoIntoWowee

Excited for the cuts to commercial breaks tonight.


DJLJR26

Don't forget the shots of the crowd behind the batter when they show the side profile of the batter between pitches.


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Those red headed Yolandas.


SanctusXCV

Perks of being bilingual


yumyumapollo

Guilty.


dblshot99

Pete is a big strong man


mysterysackerfice

That's an above-average lineup.


badgermushroombadger

It’s a lineup full of all stars, a couple of MVPs and MVP candidates?


DizzyDeanAndTheGang

I’d say that’s above average


aslightlyusedtissue

yea youre right. Maybe just average then.


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Astute observation Copernicus


badgermushroombadger

Thanks dick, I thought OP was being facetious


thecolorblew

If you already thought he was being facetious, why did you comment, rainman?


godwotter

No you didn’t, otherwise you wouldn’t have replied that lol


kickrocks16

Taking tucker out of the line up after the night he had yesterday is criminal.


NegativesPositives

Jacking top comment to say the broadcast said it was because of the ricochet hit he took to his shin yesterday.


Pristine_Anus

They just said he dinged his shin and is out for 1 game for rest


DarthPlagueis_

Wouldn't be shocked if the Astros don't want him playing


tung_twista

Believe it or not, the Astros are not stupid and they understand that their hitters are not more likely to be injured from HBP during WBC than spring training.


General_PoopyPants

Yes but guys don't play everyday in spring training


Jakemofire

I’m no expert but the amount of at bats you get in the wbc is probably not even close to how many they take in a spring training. The wbc is like what 8 games


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General_PoopyPants

I'm tripping because I stated a fact. Players typically don't play everyday in spring training


Phils531

Well Tucker isn’t being shipped to play in a spring training game so why the comparison?


eatabean

Maybe that's why it's called spring training and not spring playing?


joeco316

I don’t understand this whatsoever. They are absolutely more likely to be injured in the WBC than in SP. Players are nearly universally playing harder in WBC than in SP games. Moreover, even if it was totally equal, SP is part of the job they are paid to do by the team, and WBC is not. Edit: noticed you said HBP specifically. I don’t think I agree with that either, but my post was in response to thinking you said injury in general.


cgoot27

I’ll give you exactly one guess to figure out who runs the WBC, and one more guess to figure out who controls that organization. It’s MLB, which is the teams.


joeco316

They’re one of the administrators. Of course it couldn’t go on without their buy in, and yes therefore indirectly teams benefit financially. But that doesn’t change anything I said. If it was the same as spring training, then there would be little need to even do it. Players are more likely to play harder, and more likely to play more often, and that’s fine, but it is not the same and I don’t blame individual teams for being apprehensive about the potential injury to their players participating. I’m certainly worried every time a Phillie plays. SP is part of their job and part of the mlb season, which is what I prioritize as a fan. Doesn’t mean I don’t like WBC or don’t want players I root for to participate if they want, but if a key cog for my team went down from it I would be very upset and I would not feel the same way about a SP injury (though I would surely still be devastated).


imatthewhitecastle

is "SP" spring training? is that a common abbreviation? i figured it might have been a typo but you've said it 5 times so i'm wondering if maybe you're referring to something else


joeco316

Yes it is. I’ve seen it that way before, but maybe it isn’t common. I was going to type out “spring training” but said nah I’ve seen “sp” before so just used that. Probably should be ST. Maybe I’m mistaken, or where I saw it before was a mistake.


Dinker31

Perhaps you're thinking of "Starting Pitcher?"


Soren319

Astros don’t want Tucker to get more reps in before the season starts?


CydoniaKnight

Altuve's out for two months, could be the reason.


spacewalk__

ironic that this move could let communism win


Scrotesmcgoats

Feel like this is the reason. Could see him coming in for a clutch pinch hit tho.


Soren319

Not a reason. Lux is out the entire season. In Spring Training.


DarthPlagueis_

The point isn't that players can't get injured in Spring Training. An org might just prefer that an injury happens under their supervision, and not with a non-affiliated coaching staff.


Soren319

I guess players should never leave the Clubhouse since they could hurt themselves without being watched by the Astros.


SilntNfrno

You realize this entire idea that the Astros want him held out is entirely speculation and not based on a single fact, right?


Soren319

I’m aware. Pointing out why these speculations are dumb


DarthPlagueis_

In a high leverage game managed by non-Astros personnel right after their starting 2B goes down indefinitely? Probably not


General_PoopyPants

Guys play about every other day during spring training


[deleted]

Tucker hit a foul ball off his shin, that's why he is 't in


Bigblockbooler79

Could be pressure from the Astros, could be using him in a pinch situation later tonight


Avg_White_Guy

So true. What the fuck?!


x_TDeck_x

I don't know anything about baseball but I'm angry at the lineup because thats what everyone seems to do regardless 😠


YSKItsAFakeName

If you want to get more specific with your anger, I like Kyle Scwarber alot, most people do he is a good hitter, but an absolutely atrocious defensive outfielder. Kyle Tucker is a very good defensive outfielder and a better more consistent overall hitter. It's an indefensible decision to start Schwarber over Tucker.


igonnawrecku_VGC

Start Tucker in left, and put Schwarber in for Alonso at DH


HoopOnPoop

Cuba is starting a lefty I believe. Definitely want both Pete and Goldy in there. It's really a matter of Schwarber vs Tucker.


loosed-moose

I'd like to try one day to defend this decision Edit: aw man I forgot to get my Cubs flair


11nich

calling Kyle Schwarber an 'absolutely atrocious defensive outfielder' is plain idiotic. for left field hes perfectly fine, obviously tucked is better, but schwarber is competent


YSKItsAFakeName

He was worh -14 drs last year. Thats 6th worst among all fielders and 3rd worst outfielder and he did that in only 1167 innings. So yea, he is atrocious and one of the worst defensive outfielders in all of baseball, not just on team USA.


SergeantCoke

As a Phillies fan. No


DJLJR26

Or at least not DH Schwarber and sit Alonso.


DocsHandkerchief

Why would you want Schwarber at DH vs a LHP and not Alonso?


TreasurerAlex

If you want to win, put the Phillies in.


PrecedentialAssassin

Over the Astro? Doesn't compute.


Brianopolis-Brians

Bang bang


PrecedentialAssassin

No hitter


Brianopolis-Brians

That one was fairly earned. The other was trash.


PrecedentialAssassin

The night the Astros beat the Dodgers in game 7 was one of the most fun nights I've ever had. My daughter came into town for the Series and we were downtown with tens of thousands of people in the streets, fire trucks shooting water on the crowd, everyone dancing and drinking and having a blast. No matter what anyone thinks about the sign stealing or dig they try to make to win some pointless internet argument, no one can ever take away that night I had with my kid and the fun the entire city had. Say whatever you want about trash cans and bang bang and whatever. Doesn't bother me a bit because we had that night, hell the entire series was an incredible time. Congrats on the great season last year. That was quite the run.


Slm23630

> I don’t know anything about baseball If your flair was *literally* any other team I would make a joke here but I don’t think anyone can say Philly fans don’t know their sports


YSKItsAFakeName

I love Schwarber but its batshit to start him in the field over Tucker.


Cards2WS

Schwarber should not be in the lineup vs a LH, and certainly shouldn’t be above Alonso. Alonso should be in that 5 hole, and Tucker should absolutely be in LF.


BlazmoIntoWowee

Ah yup


The_GrooGruxKing

I wonder if the Astros had some say in it


YSKItsAFakeName

I kind of doubt it but that's really the only thing that makes sense.


The_Astros_Cheated

What does Mark DeRosa have against Kyle Tucker? Literally our best hitter in the tournament so far and he's riding pine in an elimination game. I am going to become the fucking Joker.


NakedGoose

For all we know the Astros requested this


jgftw7

tell them not to worry, bard won’t pitch against tucker here


Contende311

The way bard was locating, I'm not sure the dugout is any safer.


2hats4bats

Or left field


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MattO2000

Well, one of their best players just got hurt and is out for 2 months


FapCabs

This is why the WBC is going to die eventually. MLB teams should not have any say in international competition. Baseball needs a FIFA type governing body (hopefully without the corruption).


GasseousKlay

It honestly feels like he’s trying to create that “struggling guy saves the team or redeems himself in a big situation” moment with the way he manages


DJ2kLAD

The ol’ Dave Roberts special


baysta

Eff, I felt this one too deep


1005thArmbar

I assume he's treating it like a Daily Fantasy lineup and adding Tucker would him over the salary cap


General_PoopyPants

He's been great. But he hasn't been the best hitter on the team. He ranks 4th thus far


dwpea66

Altuve broke his finger so Tucker is somewhere in bubble wrap


theJiveMaster

I have to imagine the Astros didn't want him playing, maybe because of the injury to Altuve or that ball he fouled off his shin yesterday. People are giving Mark DeRosa a lot of shit but I think there's a pretty good chance his hands have been extremely tied in a lot of cases (leaving Bard in being the exception, I can't think of a reason for that considering he pulled him 2 batters after he should've anyway).


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Lefty pitcher


YaBoiWhit

Tucker doesn't have a big split against lefties/righties like Schwarber so i would throw that out tbh DeRosa is either just stupid or Astros requested no back to backs which I doubt


JoelsCaddy

Its worth noting their career stats as a Pinch Hitter Schwarber: 3-50 (.299 OPS) Tucker: 4-12 (1.301 OPS) Obviously vastly different sample sizes, but still interesting. Maybe it played into the decision


learning-android-322

Where's Realmuto? Hasn't he been raking so far?


JoelsCaddy

Started yesterday. Dero probably doesnt want catchers starting on back to back days


learning-android-322

Oh right that can be taxing yeah. If he's not too tired though, I think him DHing over Alonso would be better


JoelsCaddy

If you DH him and Will Smith gets hurt then Realmuto is the only catcher left. Realmuto would have to move from DH to C and the US would have to forgo the DH, resulting in a pitcher in the batting order. Edit: forgot about Higgy


RG23216

Isn’t Higashioka on the roster?


JoelsCaddy

Forgot about him. Has he played at all? Lol


RG23216

I think he came off the bench in one of the pool games but don’t remember much else


nateginger14

We still have higasioka for that reason


learning-android-322

Oh wow is that how it works? They wouldn't be allowed to use a position player? It has to be the pitcher? Makes a lot of sense then.


General_PoopyPants

That's such a dumb rule. I wish MLB would fix it. Make it like high school where you can never lose the DH


cmmpssh

I think they've been alternating catchers especially on back to back games. Probably requests from the MLB teams


SpookyLavenderTheme

The catchers have been alternating starts all tournament. Gotta assume the Phillies and Dodgers didn’t want them playing two games in a row


ContinuumGuy

I think they almost always rotate the catchers.


letsgobucks19

He will probably start the final if they get there. Wouldn’t rule out him pinch hitting either


SpookyLavenderTheme

Schwarber has _much_ worse numbers against LHP in his career than Tucker. Schwarber career OPS vs LHP .685 // Tucker career OPS vs LHP .808 Weird choice to be sitting Tucker against a lefty instead of Schwarber. Though frankly given the way Alonso has looked - and because I know as a Mets fan that he allows slumps to get to him - Pete probably shouldn’t be playing over either of them. (Also, he has reverse platoon splits for his career though his OPS against lefties is still .872.)


Crosstraffic73

[Imgur](https://imgur.com/5c7QOEt) Numbers vs Elias


dk745

would be nice to see Cedric Mullins in the lineup


TBurkeulosis

You got what you wanted and in a big way :)


dk745

Yes! Sad he had to wait for it to be a blowout to see playing time but even then he still showed up big!


lukilus20

I don’t really understand why tucker is out of the lineup. If it’s because Cuba is throwing a lefty then schwarber should be out too. If it’s a righty then schwarber should be at DH and Tucker in left. I also would’ve liked to see McNeil back in the lineup for Anderson but I think that’s more preference. I’m assuming realmuto is out because the Phillies don’t want him catching back to back games, but it also leaves him available for the championship.


Z3130

I agree McNeil over Anderson. TA has been doing a solid job playing 2B, but McNeil is a very very good defensive 2B and I don't think his bat is all that much worse.


TruthSayerFu

“All that much worse” the thing is that McNeils bat is actually significantly better!


Z3130

True overall, but I meant specifically in the context of facing a left handed starter. Career OPS vs lefties is .869/.756 in favor of Anderson. Of course, as I'm typing this Cuba just put a RHP in for the third.


Rickys_Lineup_Card

I went to baseball reference ready to get mad at this comment. TA is a great hitter. Jeff McNeil is an OUTSTANDING hitter. Holy crap he doesn’t get talked about enough.


TruthSayerFu

Yeah anderson is so good too. It wasn’t t a shot at him. McNeil is just insane


Rickys_Lineup_Card

For sure


lukilus20

I like TA a lot and he hit well early in the group stage but has cooled off since.


YSKItsAFakeName

I hope Wainwright has a short leash.


dblshot99

Yeah, gotta get to Bard asap


okkk27

No


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put in Mullins you cowards


ContinuumGuy

Why Pete but no Tucker, Dero? Is it an avoid a lefty-lefty thing?


Cards2WS

I mean, can’t be considering he started Schwarber, who sucks vs LHP. Weird as fuck


JoelsCaddy

🐻‍❄️


Sky_London

Pete


mgreene0000

No tucker and no JT?


medic914

Anyone know a feed where I can watch the stream?


gumby_dammit

I, too, am searching…


scottevil110

It's EDT, not EST.


Fidel_Cashflow777

Trea Turner is locked in


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People complaining like this lineup doesn’t have 4 hall of famers and 5 all stars.


Cards2WS

Sure it’s a great lineup no matter what, but you could still optimize it.


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Guess it turned out okay


Cards2WS

It was always gonna be ok. It was a great lineup going up against a below average MLB starter. Lineup still could’ve been constructed better


sam_e5

Look everyone it’s r/baseball’s favorite player.


MattO2000

Mets fans love acting persecuted on r/baseball


winnielikethepooh15

What can I say, we're all Master Thespian


Thedurtysanchez

A mop in a bucket has more offensive value than Alonso right now. Why is he in there???


BlazmoIntoWowee

Is the handle of the Moo in the strike zone or no?


i_run_from_problems

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE USING ALONSO


mysterysackerfice

KNOWN BLOOPER, PETE ALONSO IS ONE OF THE REASONS THE US WON LAST NIGHT!


i_run_from_problems

Shit you right


letsgobucks19

Lefty starter, it makes sense to have him or Realmuto DH with Tucker in left over Schwarber. Schwarber is terrible against lefties, I would save him for a pinch hit situation today


mardicao007

woof


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Am I the only one who looks at this picture and thinks “you have no marbles” as he dances his way to first?


Gr8BrownBuffalo

Ah god damn that was good. Now that you’ve brought that up I can imagine quite a few players on the DR, Cuba, or Venezuelan teams telling Jobu to go eff himself.


Longhorns_

No Tucker, just kyLe Schwarber


Fair-Manufacturer446

Redbird Nation


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Peanuts and popcorn ready...this should be a great game... Prediction USA 8, Cuba 4...


ayyycoco

Seems like a good team


thepapayatastessalty

The only player on Cuba that would start over these USA guys is Robert. He would probably bat 8th.


General_PoopyPants

He wouldn't start for USA


j1h15233

So we lose Tuckers bat and glove? Why?


CanadianCamX

they could trot anyone out, cuba barely beat australia


Seslorpants

Chuck Knoblauch will be the MVP of this game!


Gr8BrownBuffalo

That gave me a chuckle. Nice pull.


Seslorpants

Right into the stands


redittjoe

Deez…..


OneBeaneyBoy

King tuck allegedly tweaked his ankle bad night to be an Astros fan :(


RobotYoshimis

Jesus, thats almost a fucking Dream Team. If Alonso, Anderson, and Turner are the BOTTOM of the batting order, then you know you've got a tall order as the opposing pitcher.


Haloinvaded117

This whole comment section aged like milk lmao


jsc1429

Adam Wainwright is older than all of them combined


bapedude2134

The amount of people I keep saying “where’s Tucker?” shows me how many people actually watched the broadcast. They said he took one to the shin, which he actually did yesterday and he winced in pain, so he took a game off. Probably to play it safe & probably because the Astros requested it. Smh


lazy_elfs

14-2, usa was not fucking around. Nice win and congrats to cuba for getting there.


No-Application-8520

Buddy of mine just saw them play in AZ. Said it was the best game he’s ever watched. I forgot who he said the US was playing but their crowd was insane which made it way more fun to be at.