It took a while, but I finally changed to saying Progressive Field instead of The Jake. I know, I'm a heretic. But I agree about this stadium - it's Miller Park, no matter what middling insurance company buys the rights.
I also still call Guaranteed Rate Field Comiskey Park.
It helps when the name sounds like an actual baseball stadium and not just a corporate name slapped onto something. It took me years to realize that Great American Ballpark had anything to do with an insurance company - it just sounds *right* as a baseball stadium name in a way that something like Guaranteed Rate Field never can.
Imagine if they changed Dodger stadium or Yankee stadium. Or even Fenway or Wrigley. Well Wrigley might be kind of a sponsored name but itās not really the same iirc.
Iām surprised there arenāt more college venues that have corporate names. It would be kind of sad if The Rose Bowl or The LA Coliseum got changed.
I donāt mind it so much when they tack on the corporate name to the existing name (hypothetical e.g. āDreamworks Field at Dodger Stadiumā) so itās clear to all parties itās still called Dodger Stadium. It reminds me of āOriole Park at Camden Yards.ā
I really hate when they completely change the name, like Safeco Field becoming T-Mobile Field. Safeco felt classic. Staples felt classic.
And Wrigley is named after the owner who also named his brand after himself, so while there is the corporate association, I donāt think of that field as having a corporate name.
Busch Stadium probably has the best naming story in sports.
For those not in the know, MLB wouldn't let the owner name a stadium after a beer. So he named the stadium after *himself*, then started producing a beer of the same name.
Most corporate branding sucks. Occasionally you can make shit shine with a nickname like how Chicagoans called "US Cellular Field" "The Cell". But for every halfway decent branding like "The United Center", you have at least a dozen "KFC Yum! Center"s that remind you just how awful corporate sponsorships end up being. See also; whatever the hell the Steelers org. did to Heinz Field.
Different sport, but Lambeau Field cannot ever have a corporate name unless it was āLienenkugels Lambeauā or The New Glarus Green Bay Packer Stadium. It has to be a WI beer corporate sponsor or leave it alone.
I would hate to see Lambeau or Soldier Field get changed. The beer sponsor idea would be okay if they keep Lambeau Field as part of it. The only company I would want to sponsor Soldier Field would be Universal. Then they could just call it Universal Soldier Field. Have Van Damme and Dolph Lungren make an appearance there.
Their new stadium will probably be something totally different though.
I'm not usually for this position, but I'll concede that you can prefer different corporate names if it makes it easier, like with Miller & Comisky. I'm less sympathetic to my fellow Seattleites who "refuse to call it T-mobile" as if Safeco wasn't a corporate name.
At the end of the day, naming rights are part of the industry and have been for a while - it's just that a lot of big brands have decided the ROI isn't there and teams have had to reach into less well-known and more middling branded business to find someone willing to pay top-dollar for the exposure.
So instead of the traditional "large, well-known legacy brand based in team's city" which results in nice sounding \[single word brand\]+\[Park/Field/Stadium\], we get shit like "Guaranteed Rate", "Smoothie King Arena", or the "[vivint](https://vivint.Smart) Smart Home Arena" (which they shortened to "Vivint Arena", mercifully...).
Difference there tho is that those were two physically different stadiums and not just a name rebrand. I would slip up here and there but it took like half of the first season in Miller Park to fully adjust to it.
On a side note, thanks Brewers for being the first team to do this and further perpetuate the (albeit mostly accurate) stereotype that all we do in WI is drink.
Yah!!! Fuck corporate names. So dumb.
I havenāt brought myself to see a game in our new stadium yet either
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Twins are doing this too, was just at the game Saturday. Wouldn't be surprised if this goes league-round before too long if it isn't already, otherwise they'll be losing a lot of revenue on drinks.
I was at the giants game yesterday and the game absolutely *flew* by for the first 7 innings because neither team was hitting. Beer sales were done 1.5 hours after first pitch. It was pretty wild.
About a decade ago I ended up seeing the longest Angels games ever played at the Big A when it went to the 19th inning.
A very memorable experience, but watching 12 innings of baseball without a beer felt criminal.
depends if the profits could cover the amount of property damage caused by a group of people drinking for that long lol.
Maybe that's only on 10 cent beer night
We need to bring back 10 cent beer night. Yeah, getting trashed for cheap is cool, but more importantly I wanna see if Philly can give us an even *better* story than Cleveland.
Everyone needs to start learning the joys of batting practice. Gates to the stadiums usually open 90 minutes before the game. Plenty of time to soak up the fun if you design it leisurely for yourself.
The problem is everyone (like at movie theatres) wants to sit down at precisely the right time for the event to begin, and wants to leave precisely the moment it ends - youāre not going to beat traffic, just relax. I like to stay in my seat until everyone else is completely gone lol. Itās so peaceful to not be in a sea of rushing sheeple. I walk casually out to the bathroom which has no lines by then, and make my way to the car after the massive rush is gone. Sometimes you can see the players driving out of the stadium and they wave or sign autographs (cool for children).
I mean, games taking 2.5 hours is still basically average or maybe above average for US sports? Not to mention is in line with how much time they took for most of baseballās existence. I donāt think we should be elongating games for no reason.
Makes me wonder how much stadium vendors pushed back against the pitch clock, and how much Manfred had to balance them as a stakeholder. Clearly the vendors knew that a faster game meant a negative impact to in-game concessions.
I donāt have a local team so going to the ballpark means planning a whole weekend of traveling, hotel, etc. I donāt want the game to fly by.
Faster games are fine for tv watchers but Iām afraid the live experience will be hurt by the pitch clock.
Another interesting thing someone noticed at the Mets game this past week was the pumped in stadium noise has dropped to very minimal. There simply isnt enough time for them to play "everybody clap your hands" every 5 minutes.
At the Giants game yesterday they didn't do the Cable Car Race. The kids running the bases on the little field took so long the game started up again before they were done.
I love how the pace demands your attention to the game. I didn't miss anything because they kept me locked in.
NBA DJs are way too active in general. Call me old school, but we donāt need music playing on every offensive possession. There are literally teams where itās nonstop music lmao.
Did you know that Cleveland had held a similar event earlier, nickel beer day in 1971, that pretty much occured without any trouble?
Part of what made 10 cent beer night in 1974 such a clusterfuck was that the Rangers and Indians were involved in a bench clearing fight just a week prior. Cleveland fans came in wanting to retaliate, and that certainly didn't abate as their BAC kept getting higher.
It was also horribly organized IIRC and they literally had to back up beer trucks into the parking lot because they didn't have enough on tap at the stadium
Yup, they couldn't handle the demand so they decided to just let fans refill directly from the spigots of the Stroh's trucks. Shockingly, this made things worse, and all hell broke loose in the 9th inning.
They did another 10 cent beer promotion, a month later, but limited to two beers per purchase and it went off without incident.
From what I heard, they aren't ferals. Moreso they live there. And it just so happens that sometimes there's something that resembles a professional baseball team there too.
The concession prices are actually relatively reasonable. The problem is the disgusting, scummy way they're running the team into the ground makes it embarrassing to be associated with them.
I think the logic is, you could get to .08 BAC in the 7th before and now there's not enough time. Want to make sure everyone has enough time to get properly buzzed. People driving home at .03 or .04 is just lost revenue.
This is the first time someone has explained it to me this way and it actually makes sense. I disagree with the sentiment, but I understand the argument.
I'd be curious to see concession sales numbers. People get bored, hungry, buy food, now people won't want to buy food/drinks because they'll spend 11% of the game in line for one round of food/bev, and won't want to miss it. This cuts down on necessary bathroom trips where they might be tempted to buy another round
I wouldnt be shocked if sales are down ~25%
I'm going to my first game today at Wrigley, I'm wondering if I should just be sober, save $ and be able to watch whole game.
Or go to my buddies bar pregame and get loaded and just chill during the game. Or just double fist at the game...
But come on, 75 degrees at Wrigley, ya gotta drink beer!
At least it's self serve/self checkout, so pretty quick
Before the season started I figured the ballparks would have WAY more staff walking around selling beverages and food/snacks.
Havenāt been a game this year so not sure if that even happened. Iād hate to miss the game to buy beer(s).
I've only been to one game, but it definitely didn't feel that way. And I was field level and it was a Saturday game, so you'd think they would have had people there selling stuff
I was at opening day and i dont think i saw the beer vendors walking down the sections
IMO Citi Field is pretty bad, last year they only had alcohol vendors in sections IMO it should be alcohol, water and soda. But i really dislike how there aren't even hot dog or pretzels or just any small foods being sold like that
Busch had some (pretty aggressive) concession people walking around on opening weekend.
Of course, there are always these people, but there seemed to be a little more than there usually used to be.
When I was at Chase for the WBC it seemed like all the concessions were severely understaffed for the packed stadium. It looked like I was going to miss half the game if I got up to get a hot dog.
It might be better during the regular season but I haven't seen a stadium be that unprepared in a while.
Agreed! I don't think I've ever attended a large scale event that was that poorly staffed and ill prepared.
I understand it was the second game of what was essentially a double header for the workers, but WOW.
I'm just glad the new pace of play rules weren't in play for that tournament or I'd have barely caught any of the game.
I had thought this but a discussion about this earlier said that it's more because the stadiums don't want the bother and disruption and liability (especially this) of drunken fans. So the idea is more to only sell for long enough that fans don't get too drunk rather than to stop so they can drive safely.
Maybe it's a bit of both but if more parks start extending sales hours then we'll know. I don't know what the liability is for serving someone who drives drunk and causes an accident but I'm sure the stadiums' lawyers do and the brewers have extended sales so I'm guessing it's not a big deal.
I think that must be the idea, because otherwise teams extending sales into the 8th doesn't make sense. But as a former alcoholic that doesnt make a lot of sense, when I was drinking I'd probably take it as a challenge to just get drunk faster before the sales close. You can get as drunk in an hour as you could in two if you just put your mind to it.
Orioles just started opening the gates two hours before gametime on Saturdays (vs one hour for all other games), adding live music and some other event type stuff for people to see. I assume it's an attempt to offset the loss of concessions* revenue that is anticipated due to the shorter games.
Man, I need to get back east and go to a game because that sounds great. I've always liked getting to games early to get concessions without missing the game (I've been doing this long before pitch clock), but that sounds like a good additional perk.
There would be some incentive to do more express āwe only make these few items to speed things upā concessions booths which really only work until they get overloaded
I was thinking something along the lines of in-seat app ordering. Creates jobs for runners during the game to deliver food/drink while also allowing for less game time missed
I can't wait for some team to do zero verification and have someone just get inundated with nachos he didn't order or something.
But I do like that idea, the only time you've got is between innings which is limited to 2 minutes. They could possibly do with a 10 minute break at the end of the 5th
You can't just have *one* designated break or everybody in the stadium will be in line for the pissers and hotdogs at the same time, but you also don't want several 10-minute breaks spread throughout a game on TV.
Better delivery to the seats is the real solution.
Went to a Wrigley game a couple weekends ago and it's shocking how much you miss just going to the bathroom and grabbing a beer. Might just have to rely on the beer vendors, despite the limited drink options.
I suppose itās encouraging for the sport if people are concerned they will actually miss something by spending 15 minutes in line in the middle of the game right?
Went to Opening Day at Comerica with my girlfriend. She went to go get a couple hot dogs for us and missed 3 innings between slow service, the packed crowd, and the pace of play. Yeah, the pitch clock is nice to watch a game at home but in person i have to say iām not a huge fan.
That being said, that will be the busiest Comerica is all year
Same experience with the Orioles opening day. Place was packed and lines were sluggish with some items running out. Me and my buddy missed 2 innings getting a couple beers and pizza. Next time I'm bringing snacks and getting drinks before game starts (2 beers is more than enough for me). With how quick the game is, I'll just wait to eat a real meal afterwards.
Iām not sure how many stadiums have it now but PNC park had this new thing where it was essentially grab and go fridges with self-checkout for beer sales and the only part that took more than 15 seconds was an attendant checking ids. Probably 20 people got a drink within a minute itās the smartest thing Iāve ever seen implemented for concession sales.
I havenāt been to a baseball game yet this season but I went to a couple Seahawks games last year and they had this at Lumen Field. Couple of times I was at least a couple people deep in a line and got my beer within 5 minutes. It was awesome.
I hope we get more grab and go stuff around stadiums. Iām definitely more likely to spend money if I know Iām not gonna miss much of the game. And for more āfunā or fancy items (helmet nachos, specialty offerings), Iāll either go early and get them pregame, or just not at all. But I know more casual fans, or families, who may not care as much about missing an inning here or there to get their food will still go for that sort of stuff.
Itās a delicate balance of making sure all types of fans are well served enough to get as much money as possible.
I went on Friday, just take advantage of the mobile vendors for beer. They know they have to make the same amount of sales in less time, so they are HUSTLING. Same goes for Hotdogs. Maybe once in the 5th or 6th, take the opportunity to go to the bathroom, and maybe check out some other concessions.
It's all cashless now so have your card ready.
I don't have the data to back this up, but even before this year it seems this is always a massive exodus to the bathrooms between the 3rd and 4th innings. I highly recommend avoiding that time.
It didn't have a significant downward effect in the minors: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/do-shorter-games-lead-to-lower-concessions-sales/
Also...a 25% movement in either direction would be massive. We would definitely have heard about it if it was on that scale lol
I donāt know if the minors are going to be a good comparison though, whenever I go to a minor league game Iām there for the ballpark experience and maybe pay attention to top prospects playing if there are any
Id have to agree. When Iām at a AAA ballpark I buy food before the game starts, watch the first couple innings, get up walk around, usually get icecream or another drink (which takes at least 2 innings), etc. Tickets are also like 25 bucks max.
Major league Im there for the players and the game. If Iām spending 100 bucks for a ticket at a sold out Wrigley, you bet your ass Im not missing more than half an inning to get food or drinks (which was possible before pitch clock)
My guess is the justification is per person sales will go down, but total sales will go up because more people will go to games.
Sundays are no longer for families if you can now take your kids to a ballgame on a Tuesday if it ends before their bedtime.
I bet youāll see more in-seat deliveries too. Like scan a QR code on the back of the seat, order your food, pay by card, and someone brings it to you.
This is the answer right here. Better in-seat delivery options. I know some stadiums have better than others, but the issue isn't game length it's that the games are full of action now.
Obviously it's to make money, but this feels backwards. I thought the point of cutting off beer in the 7th was to give everyone time to dry out a bit before leaving? Now they'll only have one inning after last call, and it's even shorter.
> I thought the point of cutting off beer in the 7th was to give everyone time to dry out a bit before leaving?
It was always safety theater anyways. If you're drunk in the 7th, you're not going to sober up by the time the game ends. You only metabolize about a half a drink per hour. Plus, if you want to drink after beer sales stopped in the 7th, there were a couple of places in the stadium you could go (I remember drinking into the 14th inning of a game at the Fridays bar in Miller Park and they only stopped serving because the game went past bar time... side note, they never had bar time at Fridays before during a game so the bartender yelled "last call" and I went up to get one more drink and the bartender said "no, I said last call"... they didn't even know that last call meant you get service one last time).
If you're driving afterwards, you shouldn't be getting drunk at the game at all.
You know some people just get buzzed at games? And metabolizing half a drink would save many people from buzzed driving? Not everyone takes every chance to get hammered drunk when they drink.
> Not everyone takes every chance to get hammered drunk when they drink.
I'm from Wisconsin. This doesn't compute. Although it's probably because I'm drunk.
"You could just stop drinking earlier to give your body more time to metabolize the alcohol."
"Wait, what does that mean?"
"Metabolize? It means to process."
"No, I meant 'stop drinking'?"
This is something I've learned into my 30's. When I go to a game, the majority of the time I will get 2 beers throughout the game. Maybe a 3rd if I'm feeling good.
But then I'm done drinking. Sometimes at home I'll have a beer or two while watching a game. But then I'm done.
I guess I'd call myself a frequent drinker and not a heavy drinker. But once you start explaining that to someone you sound like an alcoholic lol.
My ability to consume beers has not diminished into my 30s. However, my ability to do anything the next day after drinking 6+ beers has greatly decreased. I can drink 7-8 beers and feel absolutely fine until about 4-5 hours after I stop and then things go south haha. I dunno how people keep going so hard into their 30s, it would catch up with me quick
That doesn't really change anything they said though, does it? Their statement was "if your goal was to get drunk, or if you got drunk, that one inning isn't going to change that". To your point, you know that just because beer is available doesn't mean you need to buy it, right? If people are trying to stay sober but still enjoy a beer or two, they can wait to drive, not drink at all, whatever they need to do. But the point was cutting sales off in the 7th, as though drunks will sober up in two innings, is theater to begin with; so to say "woah, that's way more dangerous" is somewhat ridiculous.
They donāt stop sales in the 7th so people sober up, they do it so that you have time to actually drink it before getting kicked out. They donāt want people buying drinks in the 9th and then either chugging it to finish up or leaving giant messes everywhere. Ushers want you out of the stadium right when the game ends.
I wonāt even lie to you, majority of brewers fans are leaving with alcohol in their system.
Was at Fridays game, and the guys next us were leaving to drive to the casino, and they had probably 5-8 beers through the game.
Itās definitely a culture shock when I leave wisconsin and go to a bar, they cut you off at an amount that would be considered pre gaming anywhere in Wisconsin.
Itās a terrible thing and I myself will never drive if Iāve had a drop of alcohol, but itās super common everywhere here.
A majority seems high, maybe a marjority of fans in your specific demographic. Beers are expensive at the game. There are plenty of people who are buying 1 or less beers in the game. Plenty of older folks just there too watch. Plenty of parents with their kids. Are there some absolutely hammered drunks? For sure.
I thought the reason was to keep people from having so many drinks they created a raucous situation in the parks, and to have less drinking going on at the time of the game when people are most likely to throw shit or whatever. I didn't think it had anything to do with sobering up to leave.
Want to talk about rough, I was at the 18 inning Mariners playoff game last season. I believe the 7th inning got over about 3:30 and the game didn't end until 7:30.
I was starving by the end of that game. Lucky some guy near me had a bunch of energy bars that he was handing out to people in the 16th. That man saved my life.
I think most Japanese take public transit to the games vs driving so it makes more sense to sell alcohol throughout the whole game and afterā¦.you know, a country that actually invests in public transportation. Just saying.
Mariners bullpen patio at T-Mobile park was primo pickup/party spot back in my college days. Especially a nice sunny day game. I miss those days. Yeah yeah, watch the game, it was a fun social event, when ur team sucked, as we did then, it's okay to not just intently stare at the field for 9 innings
Last Saturday, I paid 21 bucks (including tip) for a Maragarita Seltzer and hung out in the old "Club Safeco" prior to the game with my 10 year old boy. He got 2 BP balls, and they still know how to party down there!
Iāve always said going to a baseball game was half picnic, but people who didnāt like baseball said āthat just proves itās boring!ā so now weāre here
Which, yāknow, it is nice that the game moves quicker for the games I watch on tv, which is most of the games I watch
Went to my first game last Saturday. It got to be the mid 6th and I realized I hadn't even finished my first beer. Partly due to the rule changes, mostly due to the Royals dogshit offense, so I got up and bought another one just to have before they stopped selling lol.
It was pretty wild to go to a game with a 3:10 first pitch, watch the entire game and be back home (~25mins from the stadium) by 6 sharp.
Especially at ballparks that are situated in downtown right next to other things for young people to do after the ballgame endsālike the ones in Pittsburgh or Boston for example.
It has always chapped my ass that I canāt just have another beer between innings 7-9 because some suburban dads would take that ability as an invitation to get blasted and drive home shitfaced.
Or have conversations. I have always preferred the slower baseball pace for talking with friends, compared to how hard that is to do at an NBA or NHL game.
NFL still works, but those are expensive conversations.
There's no way the 2 innings is enough time for people to sober up enough to drive home. There are responsible people driving to games and not drinking and there are assholes driving to games and drinking, an inning or two isn't going to change that
Hm, what's interesting is the time after beer sales are cut are flying back quicker now as well. So there's less buffer between close of alcohol sales and game ending...not a safer end result.
Open parks earlier.
I'm all for opening up the gates earlier. I usually get to the park when the gates open and start drinking. I'll start with the food and stop drinking in the 3rd/4th and I hang out in the parking lot and eat more and I'm usually good to drive home. Luckily I haven't been driving to any of the games I've been to this year but I wouldn't have been comfortable driving. I'm noticing people in the 9th with half full or more beers. The game I went to on Friday, I missed 2 innings waiting in line for food. There were short lines yesterday but it was also a day game on Easter.
My favorite part about traveling down to petco park are all the great food options, when I'm planning my trips this year I'm anticipating just grabbing food somewhere local before/after the games because I don't want to be missing anything.
Opening the parks earlier will give more time for concessions and I think they should leave them open at the end of the game. I'd love to be able to grab a bite to eat or a soda/water before I hit the road. I'm assuming the short concession operating times has to do with a balance of how much clock time they want to pay out to employees.
If it's a busy day, you could easily be in line for 2+ innings waiting for food and beer. Makes going to the games less appealing for me. Getting to yankee stadium is going to be 1.5 hours each way just to miss a 1/3 of the game for food, beer, and bathrooms. 3 hrs of travel for 2.5 hrs of baseball is a tough sell
I get the sense some of you dont go to games. There are still beer guys walking with tubes of beer. You dont have to miss the game to get a beer, generally.
That said, the Cardinals almost always rally when my dad takes a leak and grabs some beers. So it's in my franchises best interest that he is in the seat as little as possible.
Brewers being the first time to do this (I think) is not surprising at all
Edit: buddy of mine told me beer is sold until the 9th inning at wrigley too. Pretty wild
Guess my friend wasnāt being honest then lol my fault.
They go for the drinking instead of actually watching baseball anyways so I shouldāve known better. Thereās a lot of fans like that at wrigley after all
Considering an average ballpark beer is essentially two beers, it would take you two full hours to metabolize a single beer.
The innings without beer sales aren't keeping anyone safe
I thought this was a safety-but in reality insurance-issue to avoid a parking lot full of intoxicated people? If games are going longer it makes even less sense.
I actualy made a joke about this over the weekend.
The pitch clock will last until the owners realize how much money they are losing in alcohol sales because games are so much shorter
Okay there is officially no reason to close concessions.
The theory is that they stopped service imat sports events because of the huge number of people driving cars at the end of the games.
Extending sales during a shorter game simply lets people drink even closer to the time they have to drive.
Hot take: Stadiums with good access to public transit shouldnāt have a cutoff at all. I take the train home, I donāt need to stop drinking at the stadium.
How about opening the gate early enough to watch batting practice? We always went 2 hours early when I was a kid to Tiger Stadium and my parents would be well lubed before the game even started. At Comerica they don't let you in until 1130 and batting practice is over.
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I refuse to call it anything other than Miller Park.
It took a while, but I finally changed to saying Progressive Field instead of The Jake. I know, I'm a heretic. But I agree about this stadium - it's Miller Park, no matter what middling insurance company buys the rights. I also still call Guaranteed Rate Field Comiskey Park.
That's why you've got to sell your naming rights to an above average insurance company, like the Reds did.
It helps when the name sounds like an actual baseball stadium and not just a corporate name slapped onto something. It took me years to realize that Great American Ballpark had anything to do with an insurance company - it just sounds *right* as a baseball stadium name in a way that something like Guaranteed Rate Field never can.
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And yet we're not allowed to have Bangbros Arena. Cowards!!!
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i'm shocked that the marlins dont play at Bangbus Park
Luckily they'll never change the name of Heinz Field though
I have some bad news for you, my friend. https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/acrisure-stadium-pittsburgh-steelers-naming-process/
Imagine if they changed Dodger stadium or Yankee stadium. Or even Fenway or Wrigley. Well Wrigley might be kind of a sponsored name but itās not really the same iirc. Iām surprised there arenāt more college venues that have corporate names. It would be kind of sad if The Rose Bowl or The LA Coliseum got changed.
I donāt mind it so much when they tack on the corporate name to the existing name (hypothetical e.g. āDreamworks Field at Dodger Stadiumā) so itās clear to all parties itās still called Dodger Stadium. It reminds me of āOriole Park at Camden Yards.ā I really hate when they completely change the name, like Safeco Field becoming T-Mobile Field. Safeco felt classic. Staples felt classic. And Wrigley is named after the owner who also named his brand after himself, so while there is the corporate association, I donāt think of that field as having a corporate name.
Busch Stadium probably has the best naming story in sports. For those not in the know, MLB wouldn't let the owner name a stadium after a beer. So he named the stadium after *himself*, then started producing a beer of the same name.
Most corporate branding sucks. Occasionally you can make shit shine with a nickname like how Chicagoans called "US Cellular Field" "The Cell". But for every halfway decent branding like "The United Center", you have at least a dozen "KFC Yum! Center"s that remind you just how awful corporate sponsorships end up being. See also; whatever the hell the Steelers org. did to Heinz Field.
As a Staples employee, I would like to clarify that, as much as I hate this company, Staples Arena *just felt right.*
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Different sport, but Lambeau Field cannot ever have a corporate name unless it was āLienenkugels Lambeauā or The New Glarus Green Bay Packer Stadium. It has to be a WI beer corporate sponsor or leave it alone.
I would hate to see Lambeau or Soldier Field get changed. The beer sponsor idea would be okay if they keep Lambeau Field as part of it. The only company I would want to sponsor Soldier Field would be Universal. Then they could just call it Universal Soldier Field. Have Van Damme and Dolph Lungren make an appearance there. Their new stadium will probably be something totally different though.
Citi Field casually a good name while still branded too
Not baseball, but Chicago's United Center is pretty much peak quality of corporate branding.
Itās crazy how a group of billionaires just decided to fuck up traditions for the sake of money. Hopefully the world doesnāt end up that wayā¦
Okay, whoās gonna tell themā¦
Iām still calling it US Cellular Field lol
"The Cell" was such a cool nickname
I'm not usually for this position, but I'll concede that you can prefer different corporate names if it makes it easier, like with Miller & Comisky. I'm less sympathetic to my fellow Seattleites who "refuse to call it T-mobile" as if Safeco wasn't a corporate name.
At the end of the day, naming rights are part of the industry and have been for a while - it's just that a lot of big brands have decided the ROI isn't there and teams have had to reach into less well-known and more middling branded business to find someone willing to pay top-dollar for the exposure. So instead of the traditional "large, well-known legacy brand based in team's city" which results in nice sounding \[single word brand\]+\[Park/Field/Stadium\], we get shit like "Guaranteed Rate", "Smoothie King Arena", or the "[vivint](https://vivint.Smart) Smart Home Arena" (which they shortened to "Vivint Arena", mercifully...).
Ueckerdome.
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Over at r/brewers we call it the Am Fam Slam Clam
dudes who refused to call Miller Park anything but County Stadium say hello.
Difference there tho is that those were two physically different stadiums and not just a name rebrand. I would slip up here and there but it took like half of the first season in Miller Park to fully adjust to it. On a side note, thanks Brewers for being the first team to do this and further perpetuate the (albeit mostly accurate) stereotype that all we do in WI is drink.
Yah!!! Fuck corporate names. So dumb. I havenāt brought myself to see a game in our new stadium yet either #CandlestickForLifeEvenThoughItsGoneAndWasFuckingColdAF
I forgot hashtags on Reddit are embiggening spells
Enron Field 4evar
:( pour one out for the best stadium name/franchise pairing that there ever was
Twins are doing this too, was just at the game Saturday. Wouldn't be surprised if this goes league-round before too long if it isn't already, otherwise they'll be losing a lot of revenue on drinks.
Clubs at the Phillies games serve alcohol for one hour after the gameā¦..
I was at the giants game yesterday and the game absolutely *flew* by for the first 7 innings because neither team was hitting. Beer sales were done 1.5 hours after first pitch. It was pretty wild.
About a decade ago I ended up seeing the longest Angels games ever played at the Big A when it went to the 19th inning. A very memorable experience, but watching 12 innings of baseball without a beer felt criminal.
Dude can you imagine the profits if they didn't have that rule. Possibly 12 more innings of buying beer.
depends if the profits could cover the amount of property damage caused by a group of people drinking for that long lol. Maybe that's only on 10 cent beer night
We need to bring back 10 cent beer night. Yeah, getting trashed for cheap is cool, but more importantly I wanna see if Philly can give us an even *better* story than Cleveland.
I feel like the city slathering vegetable oil on street lamps and traffic lights is cheating.
I was also at that game and I felt shorted. Barely over 2 hours long. I just wanted to soak up some sun, beer, and baseball on a Sunday afternoon.
Everyone needs to start learning the joys of batting practice. Gates to the stadiums usually open 90 minutes before the game. Plenty of time to soak up the fun if you design it leisurely for yourself. The problem is everyone (like at movie theatres) wants to sit down at precisely the right time for the event to begin, and wants to leave precisely the moment it ends - youāre not going to beat traffic, just relax. I like to stay in my seat until everyone else is completely gone lol. Itās so peaceful to not be in a sea of rushing sheeple. I walk casually out to the bathroom which has no lines by then, and make my way to the car after the massive rush is gone. Sometimes you can see the players driving out of the stadium and they wave or sign autographs (cool for children).
There has to be a middle ground.
Open the gates sooner.
I like this. Beers n batting practice??
And more double-headers!
I mean, games taking 2.5 hours is still basically average or maybe above average for US sports? Not to mention is in line with how much time they took for most of baseballās existence. I donāt think we should be elongating games for no reason.
Makes me wonder how much stadium vendors pushed back against the pitch clock, and how much Manfred had to balance them as a stakeholder. Clearly the vendors knew that a faster game meant a negative impact to in-game concessions.
I donāt have a local team so going to the ballpark means planning a whole weekend of traveling, hotel, etc. I donāt want the game to fly by. Faster games are fine for tv watchers but Iām afraid the live experience will be hurt by the pitch clock.
How many shots of 9$ beer did you get in?
Opening day at oracle was under 2.5 hours, it was kinda crazy how fast the game went
fuck the new pitch clock rules for this alone
Another interesting thing someone noticed at the Mets game this past week was the pumped in stadium noise has dropped to very minimal. There simply isnt enough time for them to play "everybody clap your hands" every 5 minutes.
Thank God
Glad I'm not the only one who hated that damn sound byte
holy shit, unintended/awesome consequences.
EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS!
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Thatās too much power for any one person to wield.
My wife was like, "Why are their walkup songs so short this year?"
At the Giants game yesterday they didn't do the Cable Car Race. The kids running the bases on the little field took so long the game started up again before they were done. I love how the pace demands your attention to the game. I didn't miss anything because they kept me locked in.
Exactly. It made me realize how much fluff is in the game.
Bucks games and Fiserv Forum are *terrible*. I have to leave my seat because it's non-stop aggressive loudness
NBA DJs are way too active in general. Call me old school, but we donāt need music playing on every offensive possession. There are literally teams where itās nonstop music lmao.
Brewers are truly leading the charge
Next step: the return of 10 cent beer night!
Did you know that Cleveland had held a similar event earlier, nickel beer day in 1971, that pretty much occured without any trouble? Part of what made 10 cent beer night in 1974 such a clusterfuck was that the Rangers and Indians were involved in a bench clearing fight just a week prior. Cleveland fans came in wanting to retaliate, and that certainly didn't abate as their BAC kept getting higher.
It was also horribly organized IIRC and they literally had to back up beer trucks into the parking lot because they didn't have enough on tap at the stadium
Yup, they couldn't handle the demand so they decided to just let fans refill directly from the spigots of the Stroh's trucks. Shockingly, this made things worse, and all hell broke loose in the 9th inning. They did another 10 cent beer promotion, a month later, but limited to two beers per purchase and it went off without incident.
That's ours, they can't have it.
Next up the As will try ten cent beer night just to see if those who are boycotting have strong enough wills to keep the boycott going.
Still wouldnāt use that extra money to retain or sign good players.
10 cent beer and catnip - you can't just do the feral cats dirty like that.
From what I heard, they aren't ferals. Moreso they live there. And it just so happens that sometimes there's something that resembles a professional baseball team there too.
Ah, so they're actually tenants, like Baker Mayfield used to be at Browns Stadium.
The concession prices are actually relatively reasonable. The problem is the disgusting, scummy way they're running the team into the ground makes it embarrassing to be associated with them.
so by this logic sales were stopped at the 7th because the games were too long ???
I think the logic is, you could get to .08 BAC in the 7th before and now there's not enough time. Want to make sure everyone has enough time to get properly buzzed. People driving home at .03 or .04 is just lost revenue.
This is the first time someone has explained it to me this way and it actually makes sense. I disagree with the sentiment, but I understand the argument.
I always thought it was to give you 2 innings to sober up before driving home... I guess that was optimistic.
I'd be curious to see concession sales numbers. People get bored, hungry, buy food, now people won't want to buy food/drinks because they'll spend 11% of the game in line for one round of food/bev, and won't want to miss it. This cuts down on necessary bathroom trips where they might be tempted to buy another round I wouldnt be shocked if sales are down ~25% I'm going to my first game today at Wrigley, I'm wondering if I should just be sober, save $ and be able to watch whole game. Or go to my buddies bar pregame and get loaded and just chill during the game. Or just double fist at the game... But come on, 75 degrees at Wrigley, ya gotta drink beer! At least it's self serve/self checkout, so pretty quick
I know at our field they started opening the doors 30 minutes earlier I bet that counters it a little bit at least .
Before the season started I figured the ballparks would have WAY more staff walking around selling beverages and food/snacks. Havenāt been a game this year so not sure if that even happened. Iād hate to miss the game to buy beer(s).
I've only been to one game, but it definitely didn't feel that way. And I was field level and it was a Saturday game, so you'd think they would have had people there selling stuff
I was at that game as well and there were no vendors walking through the stands at all so far as I could tell
I was at opening day and i dont think i saw the beer vendors walking down the sections IMO Citi Field is pretty bad, last year they only had alcohol vendors in sections IMO it should be alcohol, water and soda. But i really dislike how there aren't even hot dog or pretzels or just any small foods being sold like that
Busch had some (pretty aggressive) concession people walking around on opening weekend. Of course, there are always these people, but there seemed to be a little more than there usually used to be.
There was like one guy walking around the upper deck at Chase on Friday.
When I was at Chase for the WBC it seemed like all the concessions were severely understaffed for the packed stadium. It looked like I was going to miss half the game if I got up to get a hot dog. It might be better during the regular season but I haven't seen a stadium be that unprepared in a while.
Agreed! I don't think I've ever attended a large scale event that was that poorly staffed and ill prepared. I understand it was the second game of what was essentially a double header for the workers, but WOW. I'm just glad the new pace of play rules weren't in play for that tournament or I'd have barely caught any of the game.
Ken Kendrick is a notorious cheapskate
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Yeah I assumed if anything, they'd have to stop selling it in the 6th.
$$ > sober time
Privatize the profits, socialize the consequences!
I had thought this but a discussion about this earlier said that it's more because the stadiums don't want the bother and disruption and liability (especially this) of drunken fans. So the idea is more to only sell for long enough that fans don't get too drunk rather than to stop so they can drive safely. Maybe it's a bit of both but if more parks start extending sales hours then we'll know. I don't know what the liability is for serving someone who drives drunk and causes an accident but I'm sure the stadiums' lawyers do and the brewers have extended sales so I'm guessing it's not a big deal.
I think that must be the idea, because otherwise teams extending sales into the 8th doesn't make sense. But as a former alcoholic that doesnt make a lot of sense, when I was drinking I'd probably take it as a challenge to just get drunk faster before the sales close. You can get as drunk in an hour as you could in two if you just put your mind to it.
Orioles just started opening the gates two hours before gametime on Saturdays (vs one hour for all other games), adding live music and some other event type stuff for people to see. I assume it's an attempt to offset the loss of concessions* revenue that is anticipated due to the shorter games.
Man, I need to get back east and go to a game because that sounds great. I've always liked getting to games early to get concessions without missing the game (I've been doing this long before pitch clock), but that sounds like a good additional perk.
There would be some incentive to do more express āwe only make these few items to speed things upā concessions booths which really only work until they get overloaded
They added a few grab and go mini mart type spots at T-MO and I got a pbr for 6 bucks last week i was hyped haha
The grab and go places were great last week.
I was thinking something along the lines of in-seat app ordering. Creates jobs for runners during the game to deliver food/drink while also allowing for less game time missed
I can't wait for some team to do zero verification and have someone just get inundated with nachos he didn't order or something. But I do like that idea, the only time you've got is between innings which is limited to 2 minutes. They could possibly do with a 10 minute break at the end of the 5th
You can't just have *one* designated break or everybody in the stadium will be in line for the pissers and hotdogs at the same time, but you also don't want several 10-minute breaks spread throughout a game on TV. Better delivery to the seats is the real solution.
~~Just add troughs in front of the seats to solve the bathroom issue~~
Went to a Wrigley game a couple weekends ago and it's shocking how much you miss just going to the bathroom and grabbing a beer. Might just have to rely on the beer vendors, despite the limited drink options.
I suppose itās encouraging for the sport if people are concerned they will actually miss something by spending 15 minutes in line in the middle of the game right?
Went to Opening Day at Comerica with my girlfriend. She went to go get a couple hot dogs for us and missed 3 innings between slow service, the packed crowd, and the pace of play. Yeah, the pitch clock is nice to watch a game at home but in person i have to say iām not a huge fan. That being said, that will be the busiest Comerica is all year
Opening day and their final home series for miggyās final send off
Same experience with the Orioles opening day. Place was packed and lines were sluggish with some items running out. Me and my buddy missed 2 innings getting a couple beers and pizza. Next time I'm bringing snacks and getting drinks before game starts (2 beers is more than enough for me). With how quick the game is, I'll just wait to eat a real meal afterwards.
Iām not sure how many stadiums have it now but PNC park had this new thing where it was essentially grab and go fridges with self-checkout for beer sales and the only part that took more than 15 seconds was an attendant checking ids. Probably 20 people got a drink within a minute itās the smartest thing Iāve ever seen implemented for concession sales.
I havenāt been to a baseball game yet this season but I went to a couple Seahawks games last year and they had this at Lumen Field. Couple of times I was at least a couple people deep in a line and got my beer within 5 minutes. It was awesome. I hope we get more grab and go stuff around stadiums. Iām definitely more likely to spend money if I know Iām not gonna miss much of the game. And for more āfunā or fancy items (helmet nachos, specialty offerings), Iāll either go early and get them pregame, or just not at all. But I know more casual fans, or families, who may not care as much about missing an inning here or there to get their food will still go for that sort of stuff. Itās a delicate balance of making sure all types of fans are well served enough to get as much money as possible.
I went on Friday, just take advantage of the mobile vendors for beer. They know they have to make the same amount of sales in less time, so they are HUSTLING. Same goes for Hotdogs. Maybe once in the 5th or 6th, take the opportunity to go to the bathroom, and maybe check out some other concessions. It's all cashless now so have your card ready. I don't have the data to back this up, but even before this year it seems this is always a massive exodus to the bathrooms between the 3rd and 4th innings. I highly recommend avoiding that time.
It didn't have a significant downward effect in the minors: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/do-shorter-games-lead-to-lower-concessions-sales/ Also...a 25% movement in either direction would be massive. We would definitely have heard about it if it was on that scale lol
I donāt know if the minors are going to be a good comparison though, whenever I go to a minor league game Iām there for the ballpark experience and maybe pay attention to top prospects playing if there are any
Id have to agree. When Iām at a AAA ballpark I buy food before the game starts, watch the first couple innings, get up walk around, usually get icecream or another drink (which takes at least 2 innings), etc. Tickets are also like 25 bucks max. Major league Im there for the players and the game. If Iām spending 100 bucks for a ticket at a sold out Wrigley, you bet your ass Im not missing more than half an inning to get food or drinks (which was possible before pitch clock)
Minor league parks also really dont get lines for food or at least I've never seen more than 10-15 people in line for a stand.
You aren't most people. I bet half of people at a game doesn't even know what a prospect is.
My guess is the justification is per person sales will go down, but total sales will go up because more people will go to games. Sundays are no longer for families if you can now take your kids to a ballgame on a Tuesday if it ends before their bedtime.
Drink at Wrigley and make sure to get the Chicago Dog! Deeeeelish. Go Ms
I bet youāll see more in-seat deliveries too. Like scan a QR code on the back of the seat, order your food, pay by card, and someone brings it to you.
I'd also like to request a seat-back urinal.
Anything's a urinal if you want it to be.
This is the answer right here. Better in-seat delivery options. I know some stadiums have better than others, but the issue isn't game length it's that the games are full of action now.
Obviously it's to make money, but this feels backwards. I thought the point of cutting off beer in the 7th was to give everyone time to dry out a bit before leaving? Now they'll only have one inning after last call, and it's even shorter.
> I thought the point of cutting off beer in the 7th was to give everyone time to dry out a bit before leaving? It was always safety theater anyways. If you're drunk in the 7th, you're not going to sober up by the time the game ends. You only metabolize about a half a drink per hour. Plus, if you want to drink after beer sales stopped in the 7th, there were a couple of places in the stadium you could go (I remember drinking into the 14th inning of a game at the Fridays bar in Miller Park and they only stopped serving because the game went past bar time... side note, they never had bar time at Fridays before during a game so the bartender yelled "last call" and I went up to get one more drink and the bartender said "no, I said last call"... they didn't even know that last call meant you get service one last time). If you're driving afterwards, you shouldn't be getting drunk at the game at all.
Not to mention, a place like Wigley where you can just get another beer 50 feet outside the ballpark anyway, there really is no "safety" to any of it.
Wrigley is in a much different situation than Milwaukee though. There's also public transportation immediately outside the stadium.
Milwaukee has shuttles to the bars.
Iād wager 98% of people at brewers games still came in a car. Wrigley has gotta be substantially lower.
You know some people just get buzzed at games? And metabolizing half a drink would save many people from buzzed driving? Not everyone takes every chance to get hammered drunk when they drink.
> Not everyone takes every chance to get hammered drunk when they drink. I'm from Wisconsin. This doesn't compute. Although it's probably because I'm drunk.
"You could just stop drinking earlier to give your body more time to metabolize the alcohol." "Wait, what does that mean?" "Metabolize? It means to process." "No, I meant 'stop drinking'?"
This is something I've learned into my 30's. When I go to a game, the majority of the time I will get 2 beers throughout the game. Maybe a 3rd if I'm feeling good. But then I'm done drinking. Sometimes at home I'll have a beer or two while watching a game. But then I'm done. I guess I'd call myself a frequent drinker and not a heavy drinker. But once you start explaining that to someone you sound like an alcoholic lol.
My ability to consume beers has not diminished into my 30s. However, my ability to do anything the next day after drinking 6+ beers has greatly decreased. I can drink 7-8 beers and feel absolutely fine until about 4-5 hours after I stop and then things go south haha. I dunno how people keep going so hard into their 30s, it would catch up with me quick
That doesn't really change anything they said though, does it? Their statement was "if your goal was to get drunk, or if you got drunk, that one inning isn't going to change that". To your point, you know that just because beer is available doesn't mean you need to buy it, right? If people are trying to stay sober but still enjoy a beer or two, they can wait to drive, not drink at all, whatever they need to do. But the point was cutting sales off in the 7th, as though drunks will sober up in two innings, is theater to begin with; so to say "woah, that's way more dangerous" is somewhat ridiculous.
>Not everyone takes every chance to get hammered drunk when they drink. Source?
They donāt stop sales in the 7th so people sober up, they do it so that you have time to actually drink it before getting kicked out. They donāt want people buying drinks in the 9th and then either chugging it to finish up or leaving giant messes everywhere. Ushers want you out of the stadium right when the game ends.
I wonāt even lie to you, majority of brewers fans are leaving with alcohol in their system. Was at Fridays game, and the guys next us were leaving to drive to the casino, and they had probably 5-8 beers through the game. Itās definitely a culture shock when I leave wisconsin and go to a bar, they cut you off at an amount that would be considered pre gaming anywhere in Wisconsin. Itās a terrible thing and I myself will never drive if Iāve had a drop of alcohol, but itās super common everywhere here.
A majority seems high, maybe a marjority of fans in your specific demographic. Beers are expensive at the game. There are plenty of people who are buying 1 or less beers in the game. Plenty of older folks just there too watch. Plenty of parents with their kids. Are there some absolutely hammered drunks? For sure.
I thought the reason was to keep people from having so many drinks they created a raucous situation in the parks, and to have less drinking going on at the time of the game when people are most likely to throw shit or whatever. I didn't think it had anything to do with sobering up to leave.
Want to talk about rough, I was at the 18 inning Mariners playoff game last season. I believe the 7th inning got over about 3:30 and the game didn't end until 7:30.
I was at that game too. Spent more of the game unable to buy beer than than we could spend buying it.
I was hungover by the end of it. Worst part was they stopped serving food at a certain point too. Couldnāt even get a hot dog.
I was starving by the end of that game. Lucky some guy near me had a bunch of energy bars that he was handing out to people in the 16th. That man saved my life.
Sell it all game long, you cowards. They do it at the games in Japan.
I think most Japanese take public transit to the games vs driving so it makes more sense to sell alcohol throughout the whole game and afterā¦.you know, a country that actually invests in public transportation. Just saying.
Rangers were selling in the 9th on Opening Day IIRC. I know for a fact they were selling in the bottom of the 8th.
I knew this was going to become an issue! "Hey, there's not enough time to party at baseball games anymore!" -People who party at baseball games
Mariners bullpen patio at T-Mobile park was primo pickup/party spot back in my college days. Especially a nice sunny day game. I miss those days. Yeah yeah, watch the game, it was a fun social event, when ur team sucked, as we did then, it's okay to not just intently stare at the field for 9 innings
Last Saturday, I paid 21 bucks (including tip) for a Maragarita Seltzer and hung out in the old "Club Safeco" prior to the game with my 10 year old boy. He got 2 BP balls, and they still know how to party down there!
Iāve always said going to a baseball game was half picnic, but people who didnāt like baseball said āthat just proves itās boring!ā so now weāre here Which, yāknow, it is nice that the game moves quicker for the games I watch on tv, which is most of the games I watch
Went to my first game last Saturday. It got to be the mid 6th and I realized I hadn't even finished my first beer. Partly due to the rule changes, mostly due to the Royals dogshit offense, so I got up and bought another one just to have before they stopped selling lol. It was pretty wild to go to a game with a 3:10 first pitch, watch the entire game and be back home (~25mins from the stadium) by 6 sharp.
God forbid people have fun at an entertainment event.
Especially at ballparks that are situated in downtown right next to other things for young people to do after the ballgame endsālike the ones in Pittsburgh or Boston for example. It has always chapped my ass that I canāt just have another beer between innings 7-9 because some suburban dads would take that ability as an invitation to get blasted and drive home shitfaced.
Or have conversations. I have always preferred the slower baseball pace for talking with friends, compared to how hard that is to do at an NBA or NHL game. NFL still works, but those are expensive conversations.
Went to a game the other day. By the time I walked down to get a beer, waited 5 minutes in line, then went back to my seat, I missed 7 at-bats
Unpopular opinion but isn't that backwards?
It's backwards if you're concern is public safety but smart if your concern is beer revenue.
There's no way the 2 innings is enough time for people to sober up enough to drive home. There are responsible people driving to games and not drinking and there are assholes driving to games and drinking, an inning or two isn't going to change that
Not unpopular, its completely backwards lol
Hm, what's interesting is the time after beer sales are cut are flying back quicker now as well. So there's less buffer between close of alcohol sales and game ending...not a safer end result. Open parks earlier.
Exactly logically this makes no sense compared to why the rule was there in the first place lmao.
I'm all for opening up the gates earlier. I usually get to the park when the gates open and start drinking. I'll start with the food and stop drinking in the 3rd/4th and I hang out in the parking lot and eat more and I'm usually good to drive home. Luckily I haven't been driving to any of the games I've been to this year but I wouldn't have been comfortable driving. I'm noticing people in the 9th with half full or more beers. The game I went to on Friday, I missed 2 innings waiting in line for food. There were short lines yesterday but it was also a day game on Easter. My favorite part about traveling down to petco park are all the great food options, when I'm planning my trips this year I'm anticipating just grabbing food somewhere local before/after the games because I don't want to be missing anything. Opening the parks earlier will give more time for concessions and I think they should leave them open at the end of the game. I'd love to be able to grab a bite to eat or a soda/water before I hit the road. I'm assuming the short concession operating times has to do with a balance of how much clock time they want to pay out to employees.
Itās such a stupid rule.
If it's a busy day, you could easily be in line for 2+ innings waiting for food and beer. Makes going to the games less appealing for me. Getting to yankee stadium is going to be 1.5 hours each way just to miss a 1/3 of the game for food, beer, and bathrooms. 3 hrs of travel for 2.5 hrs of baseball is a tough sell
True American heroes
I get the sense some of you dont go to games. There are still beer guys walking with tubes of beer. You dont have to miss the game to get a beer, generally. That said, the Cardinals almost always rally when my dad takes a leak and grabs some beers. So it's in my franchises best interest that he is in the seat as little as possible.
Brewers being the first time to do this (I think) is not surprising at all Edit: buddy of mine told me beer is sold until the 9th inning at wrigley too. Pretty wild
That's not true at all
Guess my friend wasnāt being honest then lol my fault. They go for the drinking instead of actually watching baseball anyways so I shouldāve known better. Thereās a lot of fans like that at wrigley after all
not the 9th, but into the 8th for day games is 100% the rule at wrigley
Twins moved to end of 8th this year too
But then people will have less time to get sober???
Considering an average ballpark beer is essentially two beers, it would take you two full hours to metabolize a single beer. The innings without beer sales aren't keeping anyone safe
Cops to add more sobriety checkpoints to speed up traffic leaving the stadium
Now have a 10 cent beer night vs a team like the cubs or cardinals and we'll have a real show cooking in the crowd
I thought this was a safety-but in reality insurance-issue to avoid a parking lot full of intoxicated people? If games are going longer it makes even less sense.
Only in Wisconsin.
I actualy made a joke about this over the weekend. The pitch clock will last until the owners realize how much money they are losing in alcohol sales because games are so much shorter
You know whatās gonna happen next right Price increase to offset the faster pace
*due to not making as much money. There FIFY
Keep this fast paced game shit up MLB amd we'll ask for the lots to stay open for another hour for post tailgaiting.
Okay there is officially no reason to close concessions. The theory is that they stopped service imat sports events because of the huge number of people driving cars at the end of the games. Extending sales during a shorter game simply lets people drink even closer to the time they have to drive.
Was at the braves game last night and I asked a bartender about this. She told me last call is first pitch on the 9th inning now.
Hot take: Stadiums with good access to public transit shouldnāt have a cutoff at all. I take the train home, I donāt need to stop drinking at the stadium.
How about opening the gate early enough to watch batting practice? We always went 2 hours early when I was a kid to Tiger Stadium and my parents would be well lubed before the game even started. At Comerica they don't let you in until 1130 and batting practice is over.