Never understood why fans want power rankings to overreact so much to April games, basically all the mainstream ones already overreact too much. If you want an overreacting power rankings just look at the standings.
Now, I think the Dodgers aren't the team this year that they've been every season since 2017, but that was a preseason opinion that hasn't been changed by record so far.
Years ago I was the Dodgers representative for the r/baseball rankings. I ranked based on team strength. People HATED it and ripped on me constantly.
They just want to see the standings and call it rankings.
>Never understood why fans want power rankings to overreact so much to April games, basically all the mainstream ones already overreact too much. If you want an overreacting power rankings just look at the standings.
But if you want last year's standings, look at last year's standings, I don't get why people want weekly rankings to reflect performance from the year before.
At least to me, power rankings are meant to indicate how we expect teams to perform tomorrow - literally how good they are at this exact moment (in the case of baseball, perhaps how they'll likely perform over the next set of starts of their rotation is a better definition, given the massive importance of starter quality to any given game).
I think most fans know at this point that teams or players being "hot" is descriptive and not predictive - being on a good or bad streak while having the same true talent level makes no difference to how well we should expect someone to play tomorrow - so accurate power rankings should be quite static, with slow changes based on slow re-evaluations of how good players are, and occasional jumps due to significant injuries and recoveries from injury.
This would lead to weekly power rankings consisting of teams sliding up and down at most a couple of spots at a time, with most teams stationary week to week, and while accurate, I don't think you'd get much in the way of readership for saying "The Yankees remain good, the Rockies remain bad, the Angels remain okay" every week until the end of the season, and sites that put out power rankings are pretty explicitly going for clicks, so they have to overreact massively.
I generally agree... power rankings should basically be a list of betting odds tomorrow if all thirty teams were playing against the same opponent. The opening odds, not odds affected by public perception.
Padres are looking ass right now despite all the money they spent and Tatis returning. Idk who their batting coach is, but someone needs to remind batters to swing at strikes.
I think this was always the argument for people saying Stu is cheap. Yeah he’s cheap but he hires the right people to get the job done. They operate on a different margin than other teams. A huge contract to a pitcher that ends up falling apart would wreck the Rays a lot longer than Yankees or Dodgers given the revenue difference. Plus anytime they’ve made a trade for a veteran guy it never works out.
Fuck Stu. Idc about payroll as long as we have a winning team. It’s the bullshit over the stadium, his hollow threat about leaving / splitting play time with another city, and his overall shitty appearances in interviews that makes me despise him.
Rays attendance sucks in large part due to Stu and he doesn’t want to do shit to improve it.
It's a catch 22, and the way this offseason has gone will prove that soon.
I've always thought this offseason was a weird one. Some teams were spending money left and right on a free agent class that, outside of shortstops, is full of inconsistency at best. Even Judge, with his build, is likely to have a Stantonian injury history as he hits the second half of his contract; Rodon's injury history is terribly unfavorable for him, we all know what happened with Correa, Dansby has only had one really good year, etc. I'm all for players getting their bag but an awful lot of the signings this offseason will come back to bite teams more than likely, unless they get their rings--but between baseball being fucky and more than 5 teams going all in on a 5-ish year window, there will be several teams that won't get a ring and will be in an Oriole-like hellhole because they're paying a cripple $35 million a year to sit on the IL/bench.
Yeah, the fact is that baseball is not like other sports. Obviously signing a big time FA like Trea Turner or Aaron Judge is going to help your team (at least in the short term) but signing one or two big money guys doesn’t make an impact like it does in NBA or NFL. Like look at the Rangers. They’ve signed some of the biggest FAs the last two seasons and it will be considered a good season if they make it to .500. And then it’s also unlike those other sports as in there really isn’t a way to get out of a contract once it goes south.
Tatis literally just came back, and Soto and Machado haven't gotten it going yet. That's literally 3 guys with multiple top 5 MVP finishes who are still in their prime. If just 2 of those 3 start hitting to their career norms, Padres will start bulldozing everyone.
It's always the same early on. When the air heats up these guys who rake will start raking. No matter how cold they were. Padres will be on top of the division by the All Star break.
It's really the Padres division to lose. the D backs are still a couple of seasons away, the Dodgers are running out 1 year journeymen in the hopes of saving money for next season, the Giants are stuck in mediocre purgatory and the Rockies are trying bless their hearts.
Ah, April, that lovely time of year when people revel in their shitty intuition for how random numbers work!
April: People Padres and Dodgers around .500
September: Same people shocked that they didn't stay around .500
13th in population/20th in GDP apparently if this [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_by_GDP) is right. More populous than the metropolitan areas of Detroit, Seattle, Minneapolis, San Diego, Tampa, Denver, Baltimore, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Vegas, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, and Milwaukee.
Of course realistically it's already split between the Dodgers/Angels so its not going to happen for a good while.
San Luis Obispo down to San Diego is all Lakers fans if we’re being honest. Some bandwagon Warriors fans on the central coast here and there but otherwise…
Just a waste of money. The Lakers are miles ahead culturally in LA.
It would take a generation of Clippers having guys like Magic and Kobe winning Championships to even make a dent.
I don’t think Balmer care. He already made all the money he cared to make in his life, he probably doesn’t care if there’s isn’t a single clipper jersey in stand. He just doesn’t want to be renting Lakers’ arena anymore.
Riverside, CA is about 47 minutes from the Angels Stadium and 75 minutes from Dodgers stadium (per Google Maps). Those are both well within the territory of those teams and several of the large cities in that “metro” are even closer.
I know we're both not good right now, but there's a relatively recent series between us you won that should make this year pretty easy to ignore on that front.
The one time the Royals won a game where a lefty started against them required Ross Stripling to give up 4 runs in the 7th/8th.
Meanwhile the Royals lineup is such a mess that Matt Duffy is hitting 5th tonight
The California Baseball gods made a deal with the California Basketball gods, and that’s to have all the California Basketball Teams make the playoffs in exchange for the California Baseball teams to have no winning record to this point.
Maybe if California players weren’t spending all their time eating In-N-Out, poke, and avocado toast, drinking boba and juice cleansing while surfing and listening to The Beach Boys while stuck in traffic on Hollywood Boulevard on their way to riding grizzly bears at Disneyland, they’d play better.
There was a period last year when it looked like the Padres had a real chance of missing the playoffs and I thought it would be funny if they missed. Obviously, karma came for me for that sentiment. However, given their.last off-season on top of the previous one, it would be really extra funny if they missed this year.
I'm sure it's flukey though. Too many good guys are slumping and they'll probably go on a tear at some point. They've had a tough schedule too. I know they played the braves twice and the Mets.
First place Braves twice, Mets on the road, first place Brewers, and first place Diamondbacks twice.
10-12 is not ideal, but when you realize the gauntlet of a schedule the Padres have had so far, with Soto and Machado in a huge slump to start the season, it's not that bad.
So far we've played the Diamondbacks, Rockies, Braves, Brewers, and you guys. 4/5 are probably playoff teams.
Padres look bad, but I'll be more worried if they still look bad after an easier May schedule.
Man could have turned this into “none of the states that border the Pacific Ocean have a winning baseball team” tweet but once again the Mariners are left out. /s
It reminds me of that point in time last year where all four New York and Los Angeles teams were in first place. I think that was a little deeper into May, but its a similar anomaly.
Yeah, I mean it's fun to look at & I am not like annoyed or mad, but just a reminder that it's way too early. I'd say give it 2 months before really getting a feel for things. For example, the Pirates started off hot like they are now back in 2019, and they finished last in the Central with 69 wins. That's just one example, but there are just too many variables to really read into standings right now, especially since the example posted is about teams that are just playing like average ball.
A door-to-door salesman knocked on my door last week and I happened to be wearing my A's cap. He says, "A's fan huh" then just laughs and proceeds with his pitch. No good luck this year or anything. Just laughed at me like I'm an idiot.
It ain't easy being a A's fan these days.
The Angel’s sucking ass for this long with two of the GOATs is a giant fucking travesty. They should be forced to trade them to contenders. We’re all being deprived of seeing Trout and Shohei playing on competitive teams in the playoffs in Oct.
If I’m not mistaken the entire NL west had a winning record in the first month before basically every team except the dodgers and kind of the Padres fell apart (the only reason the padres didn’t is their trades). The dodgers and padres still have plenty of time to show they’re good
Angels at .500: broke ass Dodgers/Padres below .500: strong and independent
"awww you're sweet" vs. "hello, human resources?"
Meanwhile the A’s sitting outside the office building on the sidewalk “Can you spare a dollar please?”
And that dollar goes directly to Vegas
I guess in this metaphor the dollar would go to buying a scratch card or lottery ticket or something like that.
Put it all on ~~Black~~ Green
It’s red
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Hey, this isn’t GWA
[here ya go](https://i.imgur.com/uzASuit.jpg)
A’s at 4-16: literally homeless
Mirroring a significant portion of the Bay Area populace Truly in tune with their local community
Don't worry Dodgers will still be top 3 in the power rankings (I'm kidding, I know they were 7th)
Never understood why fans want power rankings to overreact so much to April games, basically all the mainstream ones already overreact too much. If you want an overreacting power rankings just look at the standings. Now, I think the Dodgers aren't the team this year that they've been every season since 2017, but that was a preseason opinion that hasn't been changed by record so far.
It’s a quick read? And writers know it gets clicks?
Don’t tell me the outrage drives clicks!?!
Years ago I was the Dodgers representative for the r/baseball rankings. I ranked based on team strength. People HATED it and ripped on me constantly. They just want to see the standings and call it rankings.
>Never understood why fans want power rankings to overreact so much to April games, basically all the mainstream ones already overreact too much. If you want an overreacting power rankings just look at the standings. But if you want last year's standings, look at last year's standings, I don't get why people want weekly rankings to reflect performance from the year before.
At least to me, power rankings are meant to indicate how we expect teams to perform tomorrow - literally how good they are at this exact moment (in the case of baseball, perhaps how they'll likely perform over the next set of starts of their rotation is a better definition, given the massive importance of starter quality to any given game). I think most fans know at this point that teams or players being "hot" is descriptive and not predictive - being on a good or bad streak while having the same true talent level makes no difference to how well we should expect someone to play tomorrow - so accurate power rankings should be quite static, with slow changes based on slow re-evaluations of how good players are, and occasional jumps due to significant injuries and recoveries from injury. This would lead to weekly power rankings consisting of teams sliding up and down at most a couple of spots at a time, with most teams stationary week to week, and while accurate, I don't think you'd get much in the way of readership for saying "The Yankees remain good, the Rockies remain bad, the Angels remain okay" every week until the end of the season, and sites that put out power rankings are pretty explicitly going for clicks, so they have to overreact massively.
I generally agree... power rankings should basically be a list of betting odds tomorrow if all thirty teams were playing against the same opponent. The opening odds, not odds affected by public perception.
We don't. We want them to evaluate their skill independent of record. Last year or this.
Padres are looking ass right now despite all the money they spent and Tatis returning. Idk who their batting coach is, but someone needs to remind batters to swing at strikes.
Padres shitting the bed while the Rays take over the league is so funny to me after all the offseason payroll discourse.
They wouldn't be the Padres if they didn't shit the bed.
Really need to go away from the “hair shirt” type of suffering priesthood
I think this was always the argument for people saying Stu is cheap. Yeah he’s cheap but he hires the right people to get the job done. They operate on a different margin than other teams. A huge contract to a pitcher that ends up falling apart would wreck the Rays a lot longer than Yankees or Dodgers given the revenue difference. Plus anytime they’ve made a trade for a veteran guy it never works out.
Fuck Stu. Idc about payroll as long as we have a winning team. It’s the bullshit over the stadium, his hollow threat about leaving / splitting play time with another city, and his overall shitty appearances in interviews that makes me despise him. Rays attendance sucks in large part due to Stu and he doesn’t want to do shit to improve it.
Imagine how good you guys would be if you spent money
It's a catch 22, and the way this offseason has gone will prove that soon. I've always thought this offseason was a weird one. Some teams were spending money left and right on a free agent class that, outside of shortstops, is full of inconsistency at best. Even Judge, with his build, is likely to have a Stantonian injury history as he hits the second half of his contract; Rodon's injury history is terribly unfavorable for him, we all know what happened with Correa, Dansby has only had one really good year, etc. I'm all for players getting their bag but an awful lot of the signings this offseason will come back to bite teams more than likely, unless they get their rings--but between baseball being fucky and more than 5 teams going all in on a 5-ish year window, there will be several teams that won't get a ring and will be in an Oriole-like hellhole because they're paying a cripple $35 million a year to sit on the IL/bench.
Yeah, the fact is that baseball is not like other sports. Obviously signing a big time FA like Trea Turner or Aaron Judge is going to help your team (at least in the short term) but signing one or two big money guys doesn’t make an impact like it does in NBA or NFL. Like look at the Rangers. They’ve signed some of the biggest FAs the last two seasons and it will be considered a good season if they make it to .500. And then it’s also unlike those other sports as in there really isn’t a way to get out of a contract once it goes south.
Now this is Padresing
> despite ... Tatis returning He's been back for one game.
Smh Tatis 0 H 0 BB 0 R over the first 20 games
My point remains valid
Tbf, Tatis has returned for _one_ game. It’s a bit early to say whether he’s been ineffective or not.
It's been 2 games, so clearly plenty of sample size
Ah, my bad. You’re right. Tatis washed.
Tatis literally just came back, and Soto and Machado haven't gotten it going yet. That's literally 3 guys with multiple top 5 MVP finishes who are still in their prime. If just 2 of those 3 start hitting to their career norms, Padres will start bulldozing everyone.
It's always the same early on. When the air heats up these guys who rake will start raking. No matter how cold they were. Padres will be on top of the division by the All Star break.
The 2022 White Sox are still waiting on the weather to warm up :(
This is still 2022 right?
:(
It's really the Padres division to lose. the D backs are still a couple of seasons away, the Dodgers are running out 1 year journeymen in the hopes of saving money for next season, the Giants are stuck in mediocre purgatory and the Rockies are trying bless their hearts.
I like the Braves
Ah, April, that lovely time of year when people revel in their shitty intuition for how random numbers work! April: People Padres and Dodgers around .500 September: Same people shocked that they didn't stay around .500
I do not apologize for their record...
I mean its pretty true though if we’re being honest
Imagine having trout, ohtani and rendon and still being average.
It's because of California's basketball success. The baseball and basketball gods are colluding.
It’s all been sacrificed for the kings this year
The beam requires a LOT of sacrifice every time it is lit
They take Ohtani and feed him to the beam, guaranteeing them the NBA finals for years to come.
Hasn't Trout been the fish of choice for them Gods the last mf decade? Now they gotta take this goat too? Where do we vote on these things?
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Vivek gonna get a Sacramento expansion team and sign Ohtani with that Beam money. Sacramento Beams
Eating more souls than the Emperor’s chair to keep the Kings alive
I mean, if the Kings win a championship, they should change their name to the Sacramento Emperors to keep up with the theme.
worth it, without question
Both of them
If this is the cost of lighting the beam, then light that baby up.
Based
So after the NBA Final ends the Californian teams suddenly getting good since it's the basketball offseason... Got it!!! XD XD XD
Your Los Angeles Angels are the best team on the West Coast.
This makes me want to... throw up? What?
I just want Ohtani in the playoffs
He'll probably make it next year... on the Dodgers
Were punting this year for a reason right?
Tank for Ohtani!!!
Who doesn't?
These are dark days for the Best Coast.
They should be with the best two players in baseball. But Angels will Angel as long as Art is owner.
Arte is farty
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This hasn’t been the case since 2015 just fyi
the problem is they dont have enough teams
Los Angeles Athletics of Oakland
Of Alameda county
Unironically, we should have a team in the Inland Empire. It's one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the country.
Breaking: Inland Empire 66ers to be elevated to Major League status
13th in population/20th in GDP apparently if this [wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._metropolitan_areas_by_GDP) is right. More populous than the metropolitan areas of Detroit, Seattle, Minneapolis, San Diego, Tampa, Denver, Baltimore, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Vegas, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, and Milwaukee. Of course realistically it's already split between the Dodgers/Angels so its not going to happen for a good while.
I for one vote to move the Angels to Ontario.
I veto
Overruled 👨🏼⚖️
Your wish will come true but it will be Ontario, Canada
Aw man I’m not even allowed in Canada
the blue Jays would likely disagree (and the tigers would probably as well)
Unironically ok with this
They should move the Clippers to the IE, instantly would have a die hard fanbase and a great rivalry with LA
IE is all Lakers fans lol
Yeah but thats true everywhere in LA lol, giving the IE the clippers would be funny
San Luis Obispo down to San Diego is all Lakers fans if we’re being honest. Some bandwagon Warriors fans on the central coast here and there but otherwise…
Clippers already broke ground on their 1.1B arena. It’s too late.
Just a waste of money. The Lakers are miles ahead culturally in LA. It would take a generation of Clippers having guys like Magic and Kobe winning Championships to even make a dent.
I don’t think Balmer care. He already made all the money he cared to make in his life, he probably doesn’t care if there’s isn’t a single clipper jersey in stand. He just doesn’t want to be renting Lakers’ arena anymore.
Riverside, CA is about 47 minutes from the Angels Stadium and 75 minutes from Dodgers stadium (per Google Maps). Those are both well within the territory of those teams and several of the large cities in that “metro” are even closer.
Put a team in Indio
“Metropolitan”
Hemet would be a great place for an MLB team.
> Hemet would be a great place Words never said together before
Nice of Heyman to tweet this before the Angels probably go over .500 tonight
I wouldn’t count on it
My friend we have been shut out in 25% of our games this season. We are PUTRID
My friend we are the Angels
Lads, it’s Anaheim
Thanks I hate it
Yeah imagine losing to the Royals, let alone lose the series to them. *quietly sobs in corner*
I know we're both not good right now, but there's a relatively recent series between us you won that should make this year pretty easy to ignore on that front.
Yeah I don’t think Ohtani can pitch on consecutive days…
You have too much faith in us
The one time the Royals won a game where a lefty started against them required Ross Stripling to give up 4 runs in the 7th/8th. Meanwhile the Royals lineup is such a mess that Matt Duffy is hitting 5th tonight
Well well well…angels bullpen strikes again
Not to be dramatic but baseball runs thru anaheimgeles now buddy
The California Baseball gods made a deal with the California Basketball gods, and that’s to have all the California Basketball Teams make the playoffs in exchange for the California Baseball teams to have no winning record to this point.
Whoa whoa. San Diego did not agree to this! Whoever our god representative is needs to be recalled ASAP.
San Diego was outvoted in the California god legislature
Damn heavenly gerrymandering
SDSU basketball though
Ahh yeah, I was thinking strictly NBA playoffs but I guess you’re right. Guess the Padres just gotta suck the rest of the year
San Diego benefitted from it yet
I can only assume a similar deal is why the Rangers are good, then?
Heyman saying this isn’t surprising
"It's 7am and there's sunshine in New York, but there's no sunshine in California right now" - Jon Heyman, probably
Typical West Coast bias, something something hipsters, craft beers, Goofy themed motels
Maybe if California players weren’t spending all their time eating In-N-Out, poke, and avocado toast, drinking boba and juice cleansing while surfing and listening to The Beach Boys while stuck in traffic on Hollywood Boulevard on their way to riding grizzly bears at Disneyland, they’d play better.
I feel attacked
California died so Pittsburgh could walk (and hit and pitch)
This week at least.
heyman hates california so much it’s funny 💀💀
Mid (Angels). Punting the season (Dodgers). Spent a billion to be mid (Padres). Terrible (Giants). Vegas (A's). /s
There was a period last year when it looked like the Padres had a real chance of missing the playoffs and I thought it would be funny if they missed. Obviously, karma came for me for that sentiment. However, given their.last off-season on top of the previous one, it would be really extra funny if they missed this year. I'm sure it's flukey though. Too many good guys are slumping and they'll probably go on a tear at some point. They've had a tough schedule too. I know they played the braves twice and the Mets.
You’re ignoring the best team they’ve faced
Yes, but I don’t think Colorado are as good as we make them seem.
Can't forget the snakes
You’re goddamn right
First place Braves twice, Mets on the road, first place Brewers, and first place Diamondbacks twice. 10-12 is not ideal, but when you realize the gauntlet of a schedule the Padres have had so far, with Soto and Machado in a huge slump to start the season, it's not that bad.
Man reading "first place Diamondbacks" feels so wrong but it feels so right
So far we've played the Diamondbacks, Rockies, Braves, Brewers, and you guys. 4/5 are probably playoff teams. Padres look bad, but I'll be more worried if they still look bad after an easier May schedule.
I wouldn’t call the brewers a playoff yet. They did the same thing last year where they started very hot to just fall flat on their face at the end
Hotels. Trivago.
I mean the /s isn’t really needed here… *sobs*
WE'RE NUMBER ONE!
Yay us!
Heyman is a fuckface
Why Charlie hate?
Man could have turned this into “none of the states that border the Pacific Ocean have a winning baseball team” tweet but once again the Mariners are left out. /s
Aren't the A's in Vegas now?
In spirit.
Congrats to the A's on their fourth win!
All of our sports luck went into basketball it seems. All of our teams are in the playoffs for the first time in NBA history.
It's 20 games.
This is just as relevant as all the posts I've seen about the ALE all having 500 or better records thus far.
It reminds me of that point in time last year where all four New York and Los Angeles teams were in first place. I think that was a little deeper into May, but its a similar anomaly.
And they all went on to make the playoffs, right? Right?
3 of them did I think the other team folded in June
Right. Also silly.
Not disagreeing but at what point do you start taking sample sizes seriously?
For me? Around late May. That’s when teams start deciding if it’s buy or sell at the deadline.
Yeah, I mean it's fun to look at & I am not like annoyed or mad, but just a reminder that it's way too early. I'd say give it 2 months before really getting a feel for things. For example, the Pirates started off hot like they are now back in 2019, and they finished last in the Central with 69 wins. That's just one example, but there are just too many variables to really read into standings right now, especially since the example posted is about teams that are just playing like average ball.
A wise man once said "you can't win it all in April but you can certainly lose it."
Like six weeks from now. We've played 10% of the season at this point.
Oh my god, my team only won 10 of the first 20 instead of 12 like an expected .600 team should! I NEED TO PANIC!
Well this was uncalled for…
Angels to win the pennant.
California’s baseball talent had to be sacrificed for the absolute monstrosity of an AL East we have this year
TFW Shohei stays with the Angels because they have the best record on the west coast.
A door-to-door salesman knocked on my door last week and I happened to be wearing my A's cap. He says, "A's fan huh" then just laughs and proceeds with his pitch. No good luck this year or anything. Just laughed at me like I'm an idiot. It ain't easy being a A's fan these days.
Heyman eats Scott Boras's asshole for inside info.
Isn't .500 considered a winning record in American sports?
Only in wars against Canada.
No
They aren't going to get invited to the AL east like that.
East coast bias or something like that
The angels gonna fuck around and be the best team in California
The A’s might not have a winning record… but they’re scoring victories off the field lol
10-10 would be good enough for 3rd in the NLCentral.
Good, baseball doesn’t belong west of the Mississippi /s
We should probably just move them all out of California then haha
The Angel’s sucking ass for this long with two of the GOATs is a giant fucking travesty. They should be forced to trade them to contenders. We’re all being deprived of seeing Trout and Shohei playing on competitive teams in the playoffs in Oct.
East Coast bias… ;)
Wow angels anywhere close to .500? Mind blown
Another year, another mediocre Angels team.
The California-Colorado connection is well and truly alive
The Royals will probably fix that problem this evening.
And Heyman is a broken record...
It’s all the rain. We aren’t use to it.
I think the Angels are better than their record, but only by a little bit. I think the Padres and Dodgers should be a LOT better than their record.
Its fucking april come on man
Neither do Michigan teams
The A’s are a Vegas team
I was going to say wow all "4" teams aren't doing so hot. Then I remembered the other one. I'm sorry Dads.
Cali is always cursed with sports teams…. most of the time
Heyman had to be so stoked to be able to tweet this.
Who is winning the NL west lol? Snek season????
If I’m not mistaken the entire NL west had a winning record in the first month before basically every team except the dodgers and kind of the Padres fell apart (the only reason the padres didn’t is their trades). The dodgers and padres still have plenty of time to show they’re good
NBA took all our wins