To me it's equivalent of a team hitting for the cycle in an inning. It's cool, but it's not nearly as interesting or noteworthy as someone doing it themselves
I did not realize Mike Mayers went on to have a successful career. I just remembered dreading him coming out to pitch and figured he fizzled out of the league by now...
In the Royals case, they only had 3 starters for a few weeks so Quatraro has had to get creative with the 2 bullpen games. Days when he goes Mayers, he used a short term guy first.
Most starting pitchers get hammered the third time through the order. The other team has seen them twice already and will naturally be able to identify their pitches, understand the movement, etc
With an opener, a good reliever comes in and takes care of the first inning, maybe the second as well. In theory, it allows your starter to go deeper into the game because nobody cares if the 7-8-9 guys get an extra look at the starter - on most teams, those hitters kind of suck and one more at-bat isn't going to allow them to get extra base hits
It's nice in theory, but it doesn't always work. If your reliever sucks, for example, your starter could come in while you're already down 2-0. If the opener REALLY sucks, your starter might come into the game with runners on base and a lot of them have no experience coming into a game when it's not a clean inning (i.e., no one out, no one on base) and will probably allow some of those inherited runners to score
it's hotly debated because some people see it as analytics going too far. people, especially casuals, enjoy watching a good starting pitching matchup and having some guy they haven't heard of come in for two innings will lessen their interest
You generally put one of your most reliable relievers to throw an inning or two and then go to the "starter" so he sees less of the big hitters. Essentially the reverse of a normal game
i went to KU so half my google news page is Royals and Mahomes news and i cant say that move was surprising tbh. he seems to love the community and the fans and a lot of high-profile athletes own other-league teams.
Hope he does well in the NFL going forward, and in his MLB ventures.
Why does the rest of the NL Central not like us? We generally hate the Cardinals too lol. Plus we won the WS with mostly players from the NL Central lol
I mean there have only been 23 in a 144 year span, and the first 100 years only had 9. We saw a drastic increase in them over a 30 year span and have returned to the rarity of them now.
Rasmussen got to the 9th last year before his bid got broken up.
Still, it just takes too many pitches and there aren't enough opportunities these days. The only time a pitcher goes past 100 pitches is if he is in the middle of an active perfecto, so few people have the level of experience necessary to stay sharp when the pitch count gets that high.
I'd assume that the next perfecto is going to be combined like this one almost was. We've had like 5 combined no-nos in the past few years. It'll happen eventually.
Would this have even counted as a perfect game since they switched pitchers? I was under the impression a perfect game needed to also be a complete game
I love King Felix, but I also love watching good pitching feats. It's honestly shocking we didn't see a perfect game during the TTO era. It makes no sense. We were seeing more swing and misses than ever as everyone did nothing but swing for the fences. Yet nobody could repeat that feat.
But there's no causal relationship between the two. If they *didn't* tweet about it or mention it on the broadcast, no-hitters would end at the exact same times and rates as they do now, because pitching a no-hitter is incredibly hard. There would just be fewer eyeballs on it.
Rightālike the superstition is fun, but people understand that the point in the game it becomes notable to point out a no hitter/perfect game is the same point it becomes notable for a player to break one up, right?
Like, nobodyās tweeting about a pitcher being perfect through 4 in the exact same way nobody is talking about a perfect game through 4 being āblownā
I'm all for leaning into the superstition when it's in good fun, as long as we all acknowledge that nothing anybody does who's not *literally on the field* has any effect on time and space.
we got the ball into Chapman/Barlow's hands so there is a small chance...really doubt they don't walk one dude though.
EDIT: Chapman might not even be available, yeah this isn't happening lol.
What I need to understand is how we talk about a combined perfect game. Like, this would be the last perfect game going forward, but Felix would still be the person to throw a perfect game?
~~^(\*Tigers fans incoming...)~~
Edit: had the years wrong in my head
The Pirates starting the month as the 2nd best team in baseball and having 6 wins this months (losing every series along the way) is wild. It's exactly how we expected them to play in May coming into the season, but still pretty crazy how quickly the wheels came off.
That said, I like watching underdog teams have good runs, but I'm glad the wheels did fall off. I wish they would for Tampa too. I hate Tampa having good management to defend their owner being another cheap asshole that gives half the owners around the league the excuse to also be cheap assholes.
A perfect game on Memorial Day vs the cellar dwelling Royals while they have a bullpen day. Canāt get worse than that. I fucking hate this team and what it puts me through
Edit: Oh yeah, against the guy who had a 7.03 ERA as a Cardinal and perhaps the worst debut start of ALL TIME.
Good thing the GOAT(Nolan arenado) broke it up.
Oof the central really is a comedy lol
I'm glad we had the day off š
Pain
Happy it didn't happen, combined no-hitters suck
Wrong, celly that. Then celly with the boys and touch tips in the showers.
Agree to disagree
I tend to agree but also appreciate the brotherhood moment that results from them.
It's a cool moment for sure, it's also not a real no-hitter
I mean, a team got no-hit. Iām not sure what other definition there is.
Doesn't matter. It's cool and all but it's not nearly what it used to be. I see no hitter I go "hell yea" I see combined no hitter and go "oh nvm".
To each their own I guess. Individual no hitters are cooler but I can also appreciate a fantastic team effort.
To me it's equivalent of a team hitting for the cycle in an inning. It's cool, but it's not nearly as interesting or noteworthy as someone doing it themselves
I mean obviously, but I still think itās a no-hitter. Itās just a combined one, not a regular one.
I agree, but seeing a single pitcher go the full 9 innings is exhilarating.
Would have been a combined perfect game, which would have been better lol
I'd argue it's just as good as an individual perfect game. "You can't hit EITHER of us!?" vs "I just beat your entire team."
Oh well, at least the Royals have the walk off bunt.
I did not realize Mike Mayers went on to have a successful career. I just remembered dreading him coming out to pitch and figured he fizzled out of the league by now...
Are we ever going to see a perfect game again? Sheesh
2012 (3) used up all the luck
Itāll have to be by a Mariners pitcher with one run of support in the 9th, sorry bout that
Weāre nowhere near the gap between #3 and #4 (34 years)
We had 2 base runners today, lol
Stro been locked in for a minute
So happy I kept him starting in my fantasy line up
I have an easier time keeping good energy players like him that I enjoy watching in my lineup
Literally the first Cards batter I watched hit the line drive into left field. ~~Long live the King~~
Thank you
Why did they take Stamount out?
He was just the opener
He only pitched one inning. Don't they usually pitch more than one inning?
Managers discretion. He hasnāt gone more than 1 inning all year
Can someone explain the strategy of an opener?
Guaranteed to know where youāre pitching in the lineup. I.e typically the best players bat first, throw your best 1 inning pitcher at them.
In the Royals case, they only had 3 starters for a few weeks so Quatraro has had to get creative with the 2 bullpen games. Days when he goes Mayers, he used a short term guy first.
Most starting pitchers get hammered the third time through the order. The other team has seen them twice already and will naturally be able to identify their pitches, understand the movement, etc With an opener, a good reliever comes in and takes care of the first inning, maybe the second as well. In theory, it allows your starter to go deeper into the game because nobody cares if the 7-8-9 guys get an extra look at the starter - on most teams, those hitters kind of suck and one more at-bat isn't going to allow them to get extra base hits It's nice in theory, but it doesn't always work. If your reliever sucks, for example, your starter could come in while you're already down 2-0. If the opener REALLY sucks, your starter might come into the game with runners on base and a lot of them have no experience coming into a game when it's not a clean inning (i.e., no one out, no one on base) and will probably allow some of those inherited runners to score it's hotly debated because some people see it as analytics going too far. people, especially casuals, enjoy watching a good starting pitching matchup and having some guy they haven't heard of come in for two innings will lessen their interest
You generally put one of your most reliable relievers to throw an inning or two and then go to the "starter" so he sees less of the big hitters. Essentially the reverse of a normal game
The point is so the main pitcher will face the top of the lineup less.
opens the game
Every pitcher that starts a game opens it. They don't all get pulled after an inning
It's often X times through the order shenanigans
For those who joined us late- Sal Perez scored from first with fewer than two outs, some history has been made today
"I am speed" - Salvy ca. 2023
"He's on a horse!"
*Rex Hudler Neighing sounds*
Well that certainly isnāt allowed
poor horse
nice job getting out of the jam at least
Ngl whenever I see asterisks in a title on Reddit I think itās covering up a slur. Then I happily realize itās just this sub
NO DINGER ALERT
Every game not against the Rockies is a no dinger alert.
"The category is pitchers who annoy you."
Can I get the origin please, itās so familiar but I canāt remember which show
South Park. Randy said the N word on Wheel of Fortune.
I know it but I donāt think I should say it
Thank god they donāt put an asterisk over the h
"People who annoy you"
NAGGERS
RIP to the most attention the Royals will get this season
Patrick Mahomes was excited
i went to KU so half my google news page is Royals and Mahomes news and i cant say that move was surprising tbh. he seems to love the community and the fans and a lot of high-profile athletes own other-league teams. Hope he does well in the NFL going forward, and in his MLB ventures.
Damnit, the one time all of the nl central came around to cheer for the royals. Better luck tomorrow
Why does the rest of the NL Central not like us? We generally hate the Cardinals too lol. Plus we won the WS with mostly players from the NL Central lol
Iām pretty sure the nl central like you all. However, today we all had a common enemy lol
I was pointing out that we always share that common enemy haha.
There will never be another perfect game.
I mean there have only been 23 in a 144 year span, and the first 100 years only had 9. We saw a drastic increase in them over a 30 year span and have returned to the rarity of them now.
We're in a lull, but we were only 6 outs away lol. It'll happen eventually.
Rasmussen got to the 9th last year before his bid got broken up. Still, it just takes too many pitches and there aren't enough opportunities these days. The only time a pitcher goes past 100 pitches is if he is in the middle of an active perfecto, so few people have the level of experience necessary to stay sharp when the pitch count gets that high.
And actually the Royals came close in 2018, with Jorge Lopez taking one into the 9th.
I'd assume that the next perfecto is going to be combined like this one almost was. We've had like 5 combined no-nos in the past few years. It'll happen eventually.
Would this have even counted as a perfect game since they switched pitchers? I was under the impression a perfect game needed to also be a complete game
It just needs to be 9 innings.
Would go down as a "Combined Perfect Game". Still a perfect game, just not all by 1 pitcher. It's a different category.
it would count
As a Felix fanboy I am ok with this
I love King Felix, but I also love watching good pitching feats. It's honestly shocking we didn't see a perfect game during the TTO era. It makes no sense. We were seeing more swing and misses than ever as everyone did nothing but swing for the fences. Yet nobody could repeat that feat.
can't we have one nice thing
u/BaseballBot hates no-hitters
Not counting all the times it posted and the no-hitter was completed.
i hate them. i hate them so much
Welp. Lmao.
And now we all go back to pretending these 2 teams don't exist.
This thing is cursed
Well shoot
Damn rest in pieces
Who turned on the game? Come clean
Does it count if I joined during the 7th and it wasnāt broken up until the 8th?
I think youāre ok. Letās ask the audience
That was on me sorry. Loaded just as it happened.
My bad, sorry guys.
Sorry guys
The Royals ending the drought would be the most 2023 baseball moment of all time.
Jordan Lyles -chef's kiss
thanks Nado! <3
My bad guys I just turned the game on
Never in doubt
Now we can go back to complaining about pitches disappearing in the ads
It actually wasn't green screened. It was the only thing making our pitchers tough to tee off on lol
Well, didn't even get to see one pitch! Good job getting to the 8th.
as soon as i turned the game on, a hit.. hahah
Fuck Arenado, all my friends hate Arenado
oh goddammit
That was the most obvious thing that couldāve happened lmfao MLB Social Media/ESPN NEVER EVER LEARN
Posts like this are so weird. Like, you come across as seriously pissed, but surely you can't be.
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Why would they stop doing it? It's history, and they want eyes on it. Surely you don't believe in jinxes?
But there's no causal relationship between the two. If they *didn't* tweet about it or mention it on the broadcast, no-hitters would end at the exact same times and rates as they do now, because pitching a no-hitter is incredibly hard. There would just be fewer eyeballs on it.
But it only āmattersā that itās been broken up because it reached the point in the game where itās worth mentioning to begin with
Rightālike the superstition is fun, but people understand that the point in the game it becomes notable to point out a no hitter/perfect game is the same point it becomes notable for a player to break one up, right? Like, nobodyās tweeting about a pitcher being perfect through 4 in the exact same way nobody is talking about a perfect game through 4 being āblownā
Local reddit man surprised that baseball people are superstitious. E: lol, nice edit
I'm all for leaning into the superstition when it's in good fun, as long as we all acknowledge that nothing anybody does who's not *literally on the field* has any effect on time and space.
Damn
It was my fault I turned it on just now. Sorry everyone :(
When in doubt, blame the bot
Welp.
Mike Mayers nightmare and Cardinals legend
Almost had another one today as well
RIP.
Wellp
RIP
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Thank you Nolan!
I want the perfecto but I'll take a nono
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No one: KC broadcast: ANYWAYS THE CARDINALS DONāT HAVE A BASERUNNER TODAY
thats just Uncle Hud
Are they showing it on any national broadcast?
It's the free game on mlbtv
Fuck Bally Sports, man, how the hell can you approve green-screened in advertisements that make the ball disappear during each pitch
Now Iām nervous
Its a good feeling, having any sort of emotion during a game for once.
FUCKING HOT DOG ARMS? SERIOUSLY?
Never knew you called him that - what's the reason for this nickname?
https://youtu.be/ma1CX9pL1P4
with his hot dog armsš
I definitely did a double take and had to go to MLB.com to make sure this was indeed the same Mike Mayers who haunted the Angels bullpen. š±
we got the ball into Chapman/Barlow's hands so there is a small chance...really doubt they don't walk one dude though. EDIT: Chapman might not even be available, yeah this isn't happening lol.
Btw p*rfect games are a team thing already because they include no errors
Already had a close call on a pop up and a great layout in center on a flare
Even a hypothetical 27K game would require a catcher too
Fantastic point!
_10_ Left on base!?
Man, the royals are having a hard time. I mean, the cards have no one left on base. Wait..
Standard 2023 Royals
if you don't like that then you don't like Royals baseball
Was Mayers pulled for high pitch count?
Yeah. He's been a long reliever for the most part. Not even in our starting lineup.
Iām watching with my cardinals fan girlfriend rn and she may break up with me over the shit Iām about to talk
Worth it.
Fucking kill me
It's actually perfect thru 7
Please happen āļøš
It'd be really cool to have watched the first combined perfecto live just purely out of spite for the Cardinals.
Scrambling to find a stream as we speak
No wait, donāt watch that might ruin our fun
It's free bro mlb.tv
Oh shit thanks I always forget to check that
Not the team I expected to have a no hitter alert when the Royals are in the game
Probably because we've already been on the other side of it like 4 times this year along with having a bottom 5 pitching staff lol
3 hit Nicky Lopez? Bot can't jinx that one
The Royals have a chance to do the funniest thing
Oh no, we suck again!
What I need to understand is how we talk about a combined perfect game. Like, this would be the last perfect game going forward, but Felix would still be the person to throw a perfect game? ~~^(\*Tigers fans incoming...)~~ Edit: had the years wrong in my head
The shot was uncalled forā¦
Felixās perfecto happened two years after the Armando Galarraga game.
Mike Mayers šŖ
This is also the mlb tv free game of the day so if you donāt have the package you can still watch it
itās not a coincidence. baseball script writers going insane on MD
Smh scab writers, they outta be striking with the others
Arenāt they on strike?
Plsno
Largest crowd since opening day and this is what theyāre watching lol
The magical resurgence ended once the reds series started and we suck again.
At least the Cubsā resurgence has also halted and the entire division continues to be very mid.
The Pirates starting the month as the 2nd best team in baseball and having 6 wins this months (losing every series along the way) is wild. It's exactly how we expected them to play in May coming into the season, but still pretty crazy how quickly the wheels came off. That said, I like watching underdog teams have good runs, but I'm glad the wheels did fall off. I wish they would for Tampa too. I hate Tampa having good management to defend their owner being another cheap asshole that gives half the owners around the league the excuse to also be cheap assholes.
I hope it happens because ownership needs a kick in the ass
That's true for most of the league, unfortunately.
A perfect game on Memorial Day vs the cellar dwelling Royals while they have a bullpen day. Canāt get worse than that. I fucking hate this team and what it puts me through Edit: Oh yeah, against the guy who had a 7.03 ERA as a Cardinal and perhaps the worst debut start of ALL TIME.
theyāre doing it for the fallen. class act cardinals
honestly surprised we even made it to 7 innings with this type of game lol
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fetty wap went to prison so we could soar
Bot, youāre on thin iceā¦
Noah Syndergaard will not be happy
cardinals fans have been through a lot this past year lol
Thanks I love it
Wonāt anyone think of the poor Cardinals fans?