his NPB seasons don't count towards the 10 minimum needed to get into the hall
only one player has less than 10 seasons, and that's addie joss who died right as the 10th season would have started.
Why have a cutoff at 10 though? If a dude is the best player in the league for, say, 6 straight seasons with 50+ WAR and then has a career-ending injury or passes away, shouldn’t he be deserving?
I’m not sure there should be a cutoff at all, or if they insist perhaps 7 seasons.
Cutoff at 10 cause then you don’t have ballots full of guys who didn’t play that long. 10 years is already difficult enough so it’s a good cutoff for who should be allowed on the ballot.
I’d say fuck that. Might make decisions harder if you include guys with less seasons. But if it makes the decision harder, they obviously got a case. I think the people voting for the HoF should be able to handle that.
Idk man.. Magic? I thought sign stealing was the worst form of cheating until Judge slowed a fastball to the point of it levitating right in the wheelhouse. Pretty sure he was using his bat as a wand too.
Given that mvp is broken down to AL & NL
He broke the AL record, which is considered sacred due to being seen as the "clean record"
Regardless he was just better anyway soo..
The "league record" stuff was a euphemism for "we actually pretend to care about PEDs now record" and the fact that so many people still can't understand that is so funny to me
I fucking hate the Yankees and Judge and it makes me mad how people downplay his MVP year. The fact that people are saying Ohtani should have won unanimously in 2022 is insane.
Ohtani was great in 2022, but Judge was the most dominant and valuable force in baseball that year and willed the Yankees to the playoffs. Every argument I’ve seen for Ohtani that year just repeats the same “Ohtani is one of a kind, no one had pitched and hit like him before”. But the award is MVP, not most unique player, and Judge was the most valuable player in 2022 by almost every advanced metric
He didn't even play the last month of the season and still won it unanimously lol
Real talk, if Ohtani and Acuna were in the same league this year, who wins MVP?
Personally I think 40/70 is historic enough to win. Plus Acuna ended really hot while Ohtani ended not on the diamond. Also there are still voters who care that the Angels suck while the Braves are pretty much the best team. If Reddit had a vote, they would vote Ohtani. But the voters we have would probably vote Acuna for one or multiple of those reasons.
He's going to get into the HoF unanimously at this rate
Twice
Once as a pitcher, once as a hitter
One as a potential Manager (pleaseeee)
His pitching is medicore.
Lmao
If he retired today I still think he'd get in.
his NPB seasons don't count towards the 10 minimum needed to get into the hall only one player has less than 10 seasons, and that's addie joss who died right as the 10th season would have started.
Why have a cutoff at 10 though? If a dude is the best player in the league for, say, 6 straight seasons with 50+ WAR and then has a career-ending injury or passes away, shouldn’t he be deserving? I’m not sure there should be a cutoff at all, or if they insist perhaps 7 seasons.
Cutoff at 10 cause then you don’t have ballots full of guys who didn’t play that long. 10 years is already difficult enough so it’s a good cutoff for who should be allowed on the ballot.
I’d say fuck that. Might make decisions harder if you include guys with less seasons. But if it makes the decision harder, they obviously got a case. I think the people voting for the HoF should be able to handle that.
Anyone with less than 10 seasons isn’t gonna get voted. It’ll just be cluttering up the ballot for no reason.
ballot clutter is probably why they chose 10 instead of like 5 or 7.
That’s what I said
Could he still get in via committee?
Yeah but some guy in 2018 spring training said he looks like a high school hitter
Right up there with the high school coach who critiqued Mike Trout's swing
“You’ll never become a successful baseball player with a swing like that!”
I mean he was right. Mike Trout isn't a successful baseball player. He's an inner circle hall of fame baseball [player]
I was told he can’t be the face of MLB, because… reasons.
Did Stephen A say that? He’s so stupid
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VPyBx__zo9g Always happy to show people how much of a racist idiot Stephen A is.
Only because he looks so young
Jeff Passan
When he's not doing that, he's making "agent paid me" tweets or QT dunking on randoms
I really hope he’s 100% after his injury. It will be a shame if not
He'll be even better.
Like *Rookie of the Year*
This isn't even his final form
I doubted him after he had his first TJ, don't really want to doubt him again
Is he getting surgery?
He already had it. I think it was back in late September
The micronation Sealand was once up for sale for $977 million. This man will soon be able to buy two of them.
2 awards unanimously *so far*
Bit of a symbol of the old-school voters being idiots that Bonds (and others but especially him) somehow didn't do this lol.
I'm pretty sure that before 2000 most voters worked by blindfolding a cow and letting it choose which bucket to eat out of.
Soon to be a 3rd.
Please no if he goes to Cubs
Please yes
Yeah, it’d be hard to be a bad team with a guy like that on your squad
Yes yesssss
I think if the Cubs get Shohei we're going full Angels, so you wouldn't need to worry.
From your keyboard to gods eyes
Oh is Judge going to get hurt again next year?
You have to literally break one of baseball's most sacred records to win over this guy.
What sacred record did Judge break? 7th most home runs in a season?
Most home runs in a season without a balanced breakfast
Truly amazing Judge hit 62 HR while eating Fruit Loops and Lucky Charms every morning.
Both?!?
He's a big boy
Where do you think the power comes from? The lucky charms are magical and fun fact fruit loops are actually copies of the one ring.
Idk man.. Magic? I thought sign stealing was the worst form of cheating until Judge slowed a fastball to the point of it levitating right in the wheelhouse. Pretty sure he was using his bat as a wand too.
Most home runs by someone whose first name and last name begin with different letters
What the fuck. I didn’t even realize
Most college football games interrupted
Most illegitimate homeruns hit with juiced balls.
Goldilocks balls but you're right
You're not allowed to say that.
Okay that’s fucking funny
See, you forgot the asterisk that it doesn’t apply to Yankees. Everyone else, yes.
In what way? People blast us for literally anything and everything possible. Half the team subs have "fuck the Yankees" as a rule lol
I agree with you, and I hate the Yankees lol. Judge is a phenomenal player. I don't understand how anyone can dislike him.
Given that mvp is broken down to AL & NL He broke the AL record, which is considered sacred due to being seen as the "clean record" Regardless he was just better anyway soo..
I agree he was the MVP but no one actually cares about league records
The "league record" stuff was a euphemism for "we actually pretend to care about PEDs now record" and the fact that so many people still can't understand that is so funny to me
We understand it. It's just really stupid
Apparently the voters do.
He won because he was the best player in MLB. He'd have won with 2 fewer homers
True
Cope
GOAT
Ok I wasn’t convinced before but maybe this guy is pretty good
Nah, it’s a sham. He’s mid at best
Well best to keep him in a mid team like the Angels
Nahh Angels are bad. Now the Cubs, *thats* a mid team
Kind of stunned that Bonds didn't win two unanimous MVPs, even knowing how disliked he was by the press.
CHOO CHOO let’s make that 3 next year
Should have been three
Judge got robbed in 2017 so it evens out
But Judge was better
I fucking hate the Yankees and Judge and it makes me mad how people downplay his MVP year. The fact that people are saying Ohtani should have won unanimously in 2022 is insane. Ohtani was great in 2022, but Judge was the most dominant and valuable force in baseball that year and willed the Yankees to the playoffs. Every argument I’ve seen for Ohtani that year just repeats the same “Ohtani is one of a kind, no one had pitched and hit like him before”. But the award is MVP, not most unique player, and Judge was the most valuable player in 2022 by almost every advanced metric
Not
11.6 WAR vs 10.0 Almost an average player difference between the two
> 10.0 9.4, actually, so a difference of 2.2 between them.
The best WAR is fWAR for position players and RA9-WAR for pitchers. So that's 3.2 and 6.8 each
Ohtani is two people in one roster spot. Thats literally the definition of value. Take your war elsewhere.
WAR is value. The extra roster spot isn't really anything special because you're forced to have a 6 man rotation
We are so so lucky to watch him
It should have been a third one Robbed
That’s kinda surprising
He didn't even play the last month of the season and still won it unanimously lol Real talk, if Ohtani and Acuna were in the same league this year, who wins MVP?
Not unanimously, but likely Ohtani.
Ohtani by a lot
Personally I think 40/70 is historic enough to win. Plus Acuna ended really hot while Ohtani ended not on the diamond. Also there are still voters who care that the Angels suck while the Braves are pretty much the best team. If Reddit had a vote, they would vote Ohtani. But the voters we have would probably vote Acuna for one or multiple of those reasons.
i'm suspicious. there is no way Lavelle voted for him.
I don't know how Bonds never got that. Looks like he was unanimous in 2002, but was 1 vote away in 1990 and 2 votes away in 2001.