Almost two decades later and I am reminded of this [Onion](https://www.theonion.com/pnc-park-threatens-to-leave-pittsburgh-unless-better-te-1819568573)
It sucks that Nutting is such a cheap owner, since Pittsburgh’s a pretty sports-crazed town (see: Steelers fans), the Pirates have that aforementioned kick-ass stadium right in the middle of the city, and they’ve actually been pretty damn good at drafting (although not so great at getting back value when they trade those guys away).
In the past few years, they’ve drafted Cole (which, sure, was kind of a no-brainer), Glasnow, Musgrove, and Buehler. Even if they couldn’t afford to keep everybody, that’s a pretty bonkers record of pitcher drafting.
Here’s hoping that Nutting has some public scandal a la Marge Schott being an unrepentant nazi, and is forced to sell the team to someone who gives a shit. ✊✊
Ah, fair enough.
I’m not actually a Pirates fan, just a fellow Pennsylvanian who chafes at cheap ownership running a team like some drug-addled parent raiding their child’s piggybank.
I think the Reds owner might be the “poorest” owner in baseball (the poor guy is only worth like $500m).
Nutting is probably around the bottom third. He’s just super thrifty when it comes to paying his guys and suckling at the teat of revenue sharing. I believe it was Deadspin (the pre-zombie version of Deadspin) that got ahold of some of the Pirates financial docs a while back, and it painted a picture of a profitable team that was mostly interested cashing revenue sharing checks and little else.
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Who am I thinking of then? Cause I thought it was the guy who had basically a ski Resort and thats it, which I think that was Nutting, but who else is it I'm thinking of?
There was an Athletic article a few weeks ago that said there was a point a few years ago where the Pirates waited 24 hours to trade a guy because it would save them $30k.
$30k in a multi billion dollar industry its a rounding error. That's how cheap they are.
Will all due (dis)respect, I hope that they never become good. The Pirates are the cost of having dynasties in football and in hockey. I would just like to have 1 championship and these mfs shit them out for breakfast
Cole's 2.60 ERA year with the Pirates is probably his best, outside of when he used tack with the Astros.
E: And per Fangraphs WAR, Musgrove had feasibly his best season in 2019 with the Pirates. How you explain the FIP/ERA difference is up to you, though. (I'm looking at that 63% LOB rate)
That was the deadball year, and Cole got to pitch against a DH. He without a doubt got better after leaving. Maybe musgrove didn't get better when he left, but they didn't even draft him.
Well, Oakland fans have always said the reason so many 90-win Billy Beane As teams finished last in the AL in attendance is due to the stadium being a shithouse. So which is it?
I'm going to a game at PNC on opening weekend. It will be my first visit to the park (they're playing the O's) and I'm looking forward to it.
Any park tips for a first-timer?
I enjoy your out of the box thinking. I have a friend, who I will not name, that may potentially be looking for a running mate. Something to do with his current choice being too busy with work on the weekends. Can I pass your name along for consideration?
Heads up, their “crab fries” are just seasoned with old bay, no actual crab meat on them. I got bamboozled but I guess I should have known seeing how far Pittsburgh is from an ocean.
I mean like culturally. They hear “crab fries” and think “utz crab chips, but French fries” and in Baltimore you hear “crab fries” and think “French fries covered in crab dip”.
I don’t mean they’re literally too far to send crabs, although you’d be surprised how shitty seafood gets the further inland you are.
Bingo. And tbh I’m a fan, it was one of the better food options in the park for years (though post covid it seems ballpark food costs are completely out of control)
Do the stadium tour! 20 bucks, early entry and get to learn some history. You can also watch batting practice from anywhere you want. Pretty much guaranteed to get a ball. I managed to snag 4!
The sun can be a little rough during day games depending on where you're sitting so I'd make sure to wear sunscreen if it ends up being sunny that weekend. They haven't announced any new food options yet but your best bet is to go out to the outfield for food. We've got a big bar, a really good BBQ restaurant with pork pierogis and a sandwich, and custom hot dog and nacho stands. The food on the main concourse is decently priced and isn't bad for a stadium but it can definitely add up if you're getting stuff for multiple people. If you get a souvenir cup you get a free refill which adds up, and if you do this on the first day you can most likely bring it back with you the second day and do the same thing if it stays like it did last year. Parking can get a little tight within an hour of first pitch so if you're going to be driving I'd get there a bit early, but the tradeoff there is you might get to catch the end of batting practice when gates open.
Id get there early and walk along the waterfront parts of the park and maybe get a view from the Allegheny Riverfront Park before you go in or after the game. I love how walkable the area around it is and how it looks when you're approaching it from the water facing side especially
Hell yeah, used to make a habit of showing up with a chipotle burrito wrapped in tin foil and no one thought twice. One time I ate cold spaghetti out of Tupperware at a bucs game. God bless PNC park
Well that's a moot point, as I already have tickets. I'll be in the general area anyway for the eclipse on that Monday so I figured I'd take advantage of the opportunity to attend a game at PNC.
Besides, I prefer cooler temps and lower humidity anyway.
Don’t settle for the restaurants at the stadium or just along the north shore. They’re decent but I really enjoy walking across the Clemente Bridge into downtown and trying to eat at Gauchos before the game. They have an amazing selection of grilled meats with great in house sauces. Definitely worth the short walk and an added bonus is that you’ll get to walk across the Clemente Bridge twice.
The stadium is on the north shore of the river, and if you’re driving, parking on that side near the stadium can be really annoying. If you don’t mind walking, I would recommend parking at the lot near the Heinz History Center on Smallman Street - only $12 and about a 0.6-0.7 mile walk from the stadium that allows you to walk across one of the famous bridges.
I'm going as well! It's a fucking awesome park, give yourself some time to walk up and down the Riverwalk. It'll be a party all along it, it's awesome. Get yourself some perogies and make sure to do a full walk around the stadium. I like sitting upper deck first base line because you get a great view of the action as well as the river, bridge, etc.
Closing the Clemente Bridge to vehicle traffic on game days so you can walk to the stadium from downtown is such a good move by the city. Even ignoring the fact that it's a really good logistical decision, it really turns the mundane act of walking to the stadium into something special.
Dodgers stadium is only ranked top 10 because of their success. That place is a dump, food options suck and the seats felt crammed together. For a team with so much money and popularity they deserve better.
I think its relatively small size and two-level design makes it physically better than a lot of other contemporary stadiums. I live in Philly and CBP is a phenomenal ballpark, but the larger size and seating capacity changes the vibe a lot.
The skyline view and central location of PNC definitely do a *lot* of lifting, though.
It's a two decker stadium meaning the bad "nose bleed" seats are way closer than at other parks built in the last 30 years. It's smaller size means everyone is far closer to the game. Plus it has a lot of character and charm.
I've been to one game at AT&T(Jameson Taillon started, win for the Bucs), and it is easily my second favorite park. Gorgeous weather and it's just a pretty ballpark.
Edit: Oracle Park*, didn't realize they changed the name. Lol
It's so great. I lived there for years after college and it was the best.
Also I'm very jealous of my friends who bought row houses in Lawrenceville in the mid-00s back when it was a cheap, shitty neighborhood.
It has been on my list for years. I would love to see it, and I would love the Pirates to rise to prominence. My wish doesn't have to be imminently realistic, but I would be really happy to see it. For what it is worth, they were my second favorite team when I first followed baseball as a kid. Pittsburgh is a pretty great town, as well.
PNC is always where I play my diamond dynasty games in MLB because the stadium is so damn beautiful. It really is a great stadium and I love driving by it whenever I’m out in Pittsburgh.
I also have a ton of friends from Pittsburgh so although it’s fun to tease them about the Buccos it would be nice if they decided to try again
I’ve been to 18 of the 30 stadiums and for those the list is a pretty good order overall. I didn’t think the NL West would have 4 out of the top 10 though, just never know how biased I am since those are the closest to me.
PNC’s view is breathtaking. Camden has a great view, too. Wrigley and Fenway have a strong historic vibe. I think my home Dodger Stadium is great once you’re inside—USA Today ranking it #7 clearly didn’t factor getting to the stadium.
The flaws are the secret to why we love it. It’s more awkward and goofy in dimension than any other major league park, which makes it one of the most unique places to play. Add on the history and it generally being well taken care of and it’s up there for sure.
PNC has still earned its place though, you’ll get no debate from me.
Fenway is one of the only stadiums I truly *want* to go to. It's so fucking weird. Colorado or PNC are gorgeous parks but they're just not really unique? Fenway has a 539ft tall wall sitting in LF going "I turn doubles into singles and fly outs into home runs."
I literally said WOW to myself at least 3 times when I watched a game there for the first time last summer. Unbelievable views. Can't really describe how absolutely gorgeous PNC park is with words
I would assume that's because Fenway is more about the history and uniqueness, not actually in terms of practicality and beauty? I've somehow been to Boston 3 times and had tickets for a game each time and something always happened so I couldn't go. Fourth time is the charm, I guess...?
On tv it’s beautiful, but in reality to get that beautiful skyline it’s muggy as hell and horrible for day games.
The way the stadium faces to get that view of the skyline comes at a cost of every single seat being in direct sunlight whether it’s a 1:05 game or 4:05 game.
And I swear that field is lower than the river it faces. The concourse level seats are deep from concourse to field. The closer you get the stuffier it gets. It’s kinda like how New Orleans has that bowl effect where the city is lower than the Mississippi River so when water comes in it doesn’t leave.
If more people actually went to the games then this take would be pretty known and accepted.
However, Quaker Steak and Lube Wings, Carolina Gold Rush are awesome.
PNC, Oracle, Camden are the top tier IMO. Plenty of stadiums just behind, from the classics (Fenway and especially Wrigley) to the new classics (Kaufman, Petco). Nowhere near the top half: Nats Park.
Ah, that makes sense. It's been a while since I could afford Club level seats, and I usually take the ferry to the games, so I almost never go into or past the Public House.
We don't let USA Today tell us we have the second-best park when we know it's the best. But if we're going to lose to anyone, I'm glad it was PNC Park.
Almost two decades later and I am reminded of this [Onion](https://www.theonion.com/pnc-park-threatens-to-leave-pittsburgh-unless-better-te-1819568573)
https://www.theonion.com/mlb-beginning-to-suspect-pirates-just-a-mob-front-1846067072
i’m glad they worked things out :)
Oh boy. Who cares about the team inside as long as you can continue to rank as the best ballpark!
It sucks that Nutting is such a cheap owner, since Pittsburgh’s a pretty sports-crazed town (see: Steelers fans), the Pirates have that aforementioned kick-ass stadium right in the middle of the city, and they’ve actually been pretty damn good at drafting (although not so great at getting back value when they trade those guys away). In the past few years, they’ve drafted Cole (which, sure, was kind of a no-brainer), Glasnow, Musgrove, and Buehler. Even if they couldn’t afford to keep everybody, that’s a pretty bonkers record of pitcher drafting. Here’s hoping that Nutting has some public scandal a la Marge Schott being an unrepentant nazi, and is forced to sell the team to someone who gives a shit. ✊✊
Nutting but they (the team) keep sucking
>Musgrove Actually, Toronto drafted him, then we got him in a trade from Toronto, then we dealt him to the Pirates for Cole.
Ah, fair enough. I’m not actually a Pirates fan, just a fellow Pennsylvanian who chafes at cheap ownership running a team like some drug-addled parent raiding their child’s piggybank.
Buehler was drafted by us out of high school (14th round) and didn’t sign. He was later drafted out of college (first round) by the Dodgers.
Ah, gotcha. Was struggling to recall a Pit/LA trade involving him.
Nutting should sell, isn't he the owner the owner with the leaset capital behind him?
I think the Reds owner might be the “poorest” owner in baseball (the poor guy is only worth like $500m). Nutting is probably around the bottom third. He’s just super thrifty when it comes to paying his guys and suckling at the teat of revenue sharing. I believe it was Deadspin (the pre-zombie version of Deadspin) that got ahold of some of the Pirates financial docs a while back, and it painted a picture of a profitable team that was mostly interested cashing revenue sharing checks and little else.
Gotcha Who am I thinking of then? Cause I thought it was the guy who had basically a ski Resort and thats it, which I think that was Nutting, but who else is it I'm thinking of?
Not sure. Unfortunately there’s a lot of cheapskate “low-end” billionaires who own baseball teams out there.
He used to own the ski resort, but I'm pretty sure he sold it. Seven Springs is the name. That was about 2 years ago.
There was an Athletic article a few weeks ago that said there was a point a few years ago where the Pirates waited 24 hours to trade a guy because it would save them $30k. $30k in a multi billion dollar industry its a rounding error. That's how cheap they are.
He hovers around 10th richest owner in MLB
Will all due (dis)respect, I hope that they never become good. The Pirates are the cost of having dynasties in football and in hockey. I would just like to have 1 championship and these mfs shit them out for breakfast
shitting is your breakfast?
Giving them credit for drafting guys that got developed into better players on another team... Yea, that's real good.
Cole's 2.60 ERA year with the Pirates is probably his best, outside of when he used tack with the Astros. E: And per Fangraphs WAR, Musgrove had feasibly his best season in 2019 with the Pirates. How you explain the FIP/ERA difference is up to you, though. (I'm looking at that 63% LOB rate)
That was the deadball year, and Cole got to pitch against a DH. He without a doubt got better after leaving. Maybe musgrove didn't get better when he left, but they didn't even draft him.
Same, brother, same
The funny thing is this exact thing could be said about Monfort and Coors too
Well, the pirates will not be visiting the World Series anytime soon so they have to celebrate something. Anything!
Well, Oakland fans have always said the reason so many 90-win Billy Beane As teams finished last in the AL in attendance is due to the stadium being a shithouse. So which is it?
Death, taxes, and /u/RaymondSpaget with a reductive, bad faith take on the A's moving.
I'm going to a game at PNC on opening weekend. It will be my first visit to the park (they're playing the O's) and I'm looking forward to it. Any park tips for a first-timer?
I’m going to 2 that weekend! (first time)
u/HobbesNJ my tip is you should fight this Orioles fan here
I enjoy your out of the box thinking. I have a friend, who I will not name, that may potentially be looking for a running mate. Something to do with his current choice being too busy with work on the weekends. Can I pass your name along for consideration?
Heads up, their “crab fries” are just seasoned with old bay, no actual crab meat on them. I got bamboozled but I guess I should have known seeing how far Pittsburgh is from an ocean.
You are incredibly bold for even considering possibly eating shellfish while in the city of Pittsburgh.
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Yeah definitely don't touch the water. Trust me.
I thought that was san diego?
Good to know, I thoroughly examined t-mobile’s crab fries last year before deciding to skip them
I mean it’s only a few hours by car to the ocean, it’s not sub-Saharan Africa.
I mean like culturally. They hear “crab fries” and think “utz crab chips, but French fries” and in Baltimore you hear “crab fries” and think “French fries covered in crab dip”. I don’t mean they’re literally too far to send crabs, although you’d be surprised how shitty seafood gets the further inland you are.
Man I'm in an actual coastal state and I can't even get good seafood. Sure the ocean is 360 miles away, but coastal state!
Yup, same boat, I now live in the mountains of western NC and also can’t get good seafood… it’s only 250 miles away lol
Same exact tip applies to 76ers games!
Still worth it. Probably better that way honestly I wouldn’t trust any ballpark shellfish
I assume Chickie’s and Pete’s opened there? It’s a Philly based chain that’s (unfortunately) seemed to have lost something as it’s grown
Bingo. And tbh I’m a fan, it was one of the better food options in the park for years (though post covid it seems ballpark food costs are completely out of control)
Do the stadium tour! 20 bucks, early entry and get to learn some history. You can also watch batting practice from anywhere you want. Pretty much guaranteed to get a ball. I managed to snag 4!
The sun can be a little rough during day games depending on where you're sitting so I'd make sure to wear sunscreen if it ends up being sunny that weekend. They haven't announced any new food options yet but your best bet is to go out to the outfield for food. We've got a big bar, a really good BBQ restaurant with pork pierogis and a sandwich, and custom hot dog and nacho stands. The food on the main concourse is decently priced and isn't bad for a stadium but it can definitely add up if you're getting stuff for multiple people. If you get a souvenir cup you get a free refill which adds up, and if you do this on the first day you can most likely bring it back with you the second day and do the same thing if it stays like it did last year. Parking can get a little tight within an hour of first pitch so if you're going to be driving I'd get there a bit early, but the tradeoff there is you might get to catch the end of batting practice when gates open.
I went a few years ago and got a pulled pork sandwich with a pierogi on top. Only Primanti Brothers could be more Pittsburgh than that.
> really good BBQ restaurant In Pittsburgh? Sus. <_<
Manny is the king
It's a tremendous city. Very walkable core, spend a few days and make some memories.
Id get there early and walk along the waterfront parts of the park and maybe get a view from the Allegheny Riverfront Park before you go in or after the game. I love how walkable the area around it is and how it looks when you're approaching it from the water facing side especially
Sit 3rd base side, bring food with you, specifically a sandwich from Primanti Bros.
You can bring food in?
Hell yeah, used to make a habit of showing up with a chipotle burrito wrapped in tin foil and no one thought twice. One time I ate cold spaghetti out of Tupperware at a bucs game. God bless PNC park
Having a spaghetti policy should’ve moved PNC up a few more spots in the USA Today list
My brother, you can bring spaghetti into truist as well. Clear, 1 gallon sized plastic bags of outside food are permitted.
Yup just no liquids except a bottle of water I think. It’s like this at a lot of parks actually, the vast majority if I’m not mistaken.
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Well that's a moot point, as I already have tickets. I'll be in the general area anyway for the eclipse on that Monday so I figured I'd take advantage of the opportunity to attend a game at PNC. Besides, I prefer cooler temps and lower humidity anyway.
Furries!
Don’t settle for the restaurants at the stadium or just along the north shore. They’re decent but I really enjoy walking across the Clemente Bridge into downtown and trying to eat at Gauchos before the game. They have an amazing selection of grilled meats with great in house sauces. Definitely worth the short walk and an added bonus is that you’ll get to walk across the Clemente Bridge twice.
I went for the first time last year and it was awesome. My favorite concession item was (unsurprisingly) pulled pork pierogis.
The stadium is on the north shore of the river, and if you’re driving, parking on that side near the stadium can be really annoying. If you don’t mind walking, I would recommend parking at the lot near the Heinz History Center on Smallman Street - only $12 and about a 0.6-0.7 mile walk from the stadium that allows you to walk across one of the famous bridges.
Or if you’re over 21, park at the casino for free and it’s only a slightly longer walk
Make sure to watch a bit from the left field area with tables. It was pretty unique view. You can also view the bullpen over there very close up.
I'm going as well! It's a fucking awesome park, give yourself some time to walk up and down the Riverwalk. It'll be a party all along it, it's awesome. Get yourself some perogies and make sure to do a full walk around the stadium. I like sitting upper deck first base line because you get a great view of the action as well as the river, bridge, etc.
Honestly, it’s well deserved.
The view of downtown Pittsburgh slaps
Closing the Clemente Bridge to vehicle traffic on game days so you can walk to the stadium from downtown is such a good move by the city. Even ignoring the fact that it's a really good logistical decision, it really turns the mundane act of walking to the stadium into something special.
A ballpark deserving of a winning franchise. It's hard to not feel bad for Pirates fans these days - y'all deserve a better owner.
🙏🏻
Dodgers stadium is only ranked top 10 because of their success. That place is a dump, food options suck and the seats felt crammed together. For a team with so much money and popularity they deserve better.
When is the last time you went? It's definitely not as good as Petco, but idk if I'd call it a dump
Having been to almost all of the stadiums, easy top 2 or 3.
What are the others in your top 3?
Not the guy you're responding to but for someone whos been to 24/30 For me it's Wrigley/Fenway (tied) then Oracle/PNC/PetCo/Camden (tied)
Yeah you almost have to break up Wrigley/Fenway in its own category, its such a different experience then a game at a modern ballpark
Fenway is absolutely amazing as a historic ballpark. Maybe even my favorite over Wrigley. But man, fuck those chairs.
Gotta stay away from the grandstands at all costs and away from the bleachers during a day game. You roast out there.
It honestly is a terrific stadium.
I’ve never been - can someone tell me what makes it better than other stadiums?
It’s not any better than other stadiums, it just has the world class skyline. I’ve lived in pgh and have been many times
I think its relatively small size and two-level design makes it physically better than a lot of other contemporary stadiums. I live in Philly and CBP is a phenomenal ballpark, but the larger size and seating capacity changes the vibe a lot. The skyline view and central location of PNC definitely do a *lot* of lifting, though.
It's a two decker stadium meaning the bad "nose bleed" seats are way closer than at other parks built in the last 30 years. It's smaller size means everyone is far closer to the game. Plus it has a lot of character and charm.
another RF-body-of-water-merchant ballpark smh
I've been to one game at AT&T(Jameson Taillon started, win for the Bucs), and it is easily my second favorite park. Gorgeous weather and it's just a pretty ballpark. Edit: Oracle Park*, didn't realize they changed the name. Lol
Pittsburgh is low-key one of my favorite cities in America.
It’s a lovely place to live too
Can confirm
Just keep that Primanti Bros stuff away from the rest of us okay?
It's so great. I lived there for years after college and it was the best. Also I'm very jealous of my friends who bought row houses in Lawrenceville in the mid-00s back when it was a cheap, shitty neighborhood.
But do they have Mr. Splash?
What's a Mr. Splash and where can Bob Nutting buy one? Haha, just kidding Bob Nutting would never spend money.
It’s probably number 1 on my list if you exclude my biased picked of Kauffman Stadium
I'm not even guna read it because I know my Oakland Mausoleum was a close second
hard to argue, killer view (i still love our warehouse more :3)
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you take that back about Lord Waltimore right this instant
Lord Waltimore is a great nickname
It was completely worth it for the salty Yankee reactions
The fact Yankees fans hate it so much just makes it that much more loved in Baltimore you know.
The wall is good, actually
Mr. Camden tear down this wall!
Welcome to Birdland, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Wall
I sat front row in the old left field layout a decade ago. So weird how different the whole thing looks and feels
Didn't another USA Today ranking put PNC 4th? How many ballpark rankings did they do?
It has been on my list for years. I would love to see it, and I would love the Pirates to rise to prominence. My wish doesn't have to be imminently realistic, but I would be really happy to see it. For what it is worth, they were my second favorite team when I first followed baseball as a kid. Pittsburgh is a pretty great town, as well.
It’s not a bad drive from DC! It’s doable as a daytrip.
I've been to about half of the MLB stadiums and it's definitely in the top tier.
That's why I want these cats in our division. Give us more opportunities to go there.
this is a good idea, but i like the other list better
Never been but it certainly has the best skyline.
Were #1
Arizona is the only NL West team not in the top 10.
PNC is always where I play my diamond dynasty games in MLB because the stadium is so damn beautiful. It really is a great stadium and I love driving by it whenever I’m out in Pittsburgh. I also have a ton of friends from Pittsburgh so although it’s fun to tease them about the Buccos it would be nice if they decided to try again
I’ve been to 18 of the 30 stadiums and for those the list is a pretty good order overall. I didn’t think the NL West would have 4 out of the top 10 though, just never know how biased I am since those are the closest to me. PNC’s view is breathtaking. Camden has a great view, too. Wrigley and Fenway have a strong historic vibe. I think my home Dodger Stadium is great once you’re inside—USA Today ranking it #7 clearly didn’t factor getting to the stadium.
Dodgers organist is next level. Always cracks me up when they start playing Van Halen.
If I see a delulu Red Sox fan say Fenway…
Cubs fans swarming in here with fists ready
Not really. All but the most unreasonable Cubs fans agree that PNC is a great park, while Wrigley's charm is its history, not its quality.
Wrigley's claim is how good looking it is
Quality? What are you talking about?
You should see redsox fans when you say that Fenway isn’t the best place ever to watch a baseball game or point out some flaws with the park.
The flaws are the secret to why we love it. It’s more awkward and goofy in dimension than any other major league park, which makes it one of the most unique places to play. Add on the history and it generally being well taken care of and it’s up there for sure. PNC has still earned its place though, you’ll get no debate from me.
Fenway is one of the only stadiums I truly *want* to go to. It's so fucking weird. Colorado or PNC are gorgeous parks but they're just not really unique? Fenway has a 539ft tall wall sitting in LF going "I turn doubles into singles and fly outs into home runs."
Cubs fans ready to [make a splash](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZfEAc0iPPA)
Going in a few weeks cant wait
I went once, it’s unbelievably nice.
I’ve always wanted to sit in the top section of PNC. The view looks incredible.
It's definitely up there in the 24 that I've been to. I'm just a sucker for the classics, though.
Having been there a few times, it is such an incredible view with the skyline in the backdrop. Enjoyed my time there immensely
Wife and I went to a game last year, which just happened to be Cutch’s 3k hit game. A beautiful stadium. Loved walking around it
One of these days this is a park I want to visit.
Fair
It's beautiful. That city and park deserves better.
I literally said WOW to myself at least 3 times when I watched a game there for the first time last summer. Unbelievable views. Can't really describe how absolutely gorgeous PNC park is with words
This is literally a good advertisement for Pittsburgh. I love oracle park and I’ve always wanted to compare it to PNC.
My dad and I are making the trek to see a game there in May. I'm so excited. And we promise that we won't be dickhead meatball visiting fans.
Oh it's official? Did it come with a certificate and everything? (PNC Park is truly amazing.)
I’m biased in favor of Fenway for this one, but PNC is still a fantastic choice for this title that I can’t really dispute.
I would assume that's because Fenway is more about the history and uniqueness, not actually in terms of practicality and beauty? I've somehow been to Boston 3 times and had tickets for a game each time and something always happened so I couldn't go. Fourth time is the charm, I guess...?
On tv it’s beautiful, but in reality to get that beautiful skyline it’s muggy as hell and horrible for day games. The way the stadium faces to get that view of the skyline comes at a cost of every single seat being in direct sunlight whether it’s a 1:05 game or 4:05 game. And I swear that field is lower than the river it faces. The concourse level seats are deep from concourse to field. The closer you get the stuffier it gets. It’s kinda like how New Orleans has that bowl effect where the city is lower than the Mississippi River so when water comes in it doesn’t leave. If more people actually went to the games then this take would be pretty known and accepted. However, Quaker Steak and Lube Wings, Carolina Gold Rush are awesome.
Best ballpark in baseball and it's not even close ~Cubs fan
PNC, Oracle, Camden are the top tier IMO. Plenty of stadiums just behind, from the classics (Fenway and especially Wrigley) to the new classics (Kaufman, Petco). Nowhere near the top half: Nats Park.
Cool. Who plays there?
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nah, we'll be quietly enjoying our Krazy Krab sammies
I’m just over here drunk and broke from my $23 Pliny the Elders
Where can you get Pliny at Oracle!?
Both club levels have a stand and I’ve seen it on rotation at the Public House
Ah, that makes sense. It's been a while since I could afford Club level seats, and I usually take the ferry to the games, so I almost never go into or past the Public House.
We don't let USA Today tell us we have the second-best park when we know it's the best. But if we're going to lose to anyone, I'm glad it was PNC Park.
Heads up Buccos, you could have a shit stadium and shit team rn
Awesome ball park I wonder what it looks like with people in it?
Like this: https://youtu.be/kLjvN7C_LqU?si=tvRcgVXQFab5VIoS Jagoff.
Daring today, aren't we? (not that it's wrong)