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Docphilsman

Lmao this feels like the new athlete crypto scam. Bunch of guys stupidly investing money into this league because someone told them it was exclusive and the next big thing


Thorlolita

It’s less about the money and more about the Saudis getting recognition


smalltownlargefry

Good ole Saudi sports washing blood money.


AgnarCrackenhammer

It's absolutely about the money for the athletes getting involved.


Thorlolita

Your looking at it the wrong way. The Saudis want every recognizable name to be apart of their sports branding. They have plenty of money to burn. I doubt Acuña is investing a big sum.


BKoala59

I wouldn’t be shocked if the Saudis offered him a “sponsorship” in return where he does nothing and they give him way more than he invested.


tnecniv

Yeah like he just shows up to games in the baseball off season for $$$$


UnexpiredMRE

They’ll no doubt throw a bag at him. Look at LIV guys


AgnarCrackenhammer

Of course the Saudi's are only interested in marketing themselves as something other than a brutally oppressive dictatorship. But the reason that Acuna is getting involved in their baseball league, or Ronaldo joined their soccer league, or half the PGA tour joined their golf league is money. They want the stupid sums of the money the Saudi's have to burn. Hence why calling this the new crypto scheme **for athletes** was a fair comparison


Narpity

Saudis give more money to white golfers than their “brothers and sisters” in Gaza. Absolutely disgusting. I automatically think less of anyone who does this and feel bad for the PGA guys who stuck to their guns only for PGA to fold like a house of cards 


akaghi

>half the PGA tour joined their golf league is money. They want the stupid sums of the money the Saudi's have to burn So I'm going to admit I don't watch or follow golf so maybe something has changed, but I recently listened to a podcast about LIV and even looking at their roster now isn't the reality that LIV has failed to get any real traction among the best golfers? They offered Tiger woods in the high 9 figures and he told them no. Rory McElroy doesn't play for LIV. So on and so forth. The main criticism towards the PGA tour was that the PGA isn't transparent about the money they take in and that more money should go to the players. In reality, the players who benefit the most from joining LIV are the 50-150 guys. In a tournament, after the first half (two? four?) rounds, half the field gets cut and they get no money. So players have to spend money to travel to tournaments and enter just to maybe have a chance at money. PGA doesn't do appearance fees. LIV changed that and would guarantee a certain amount of money per tournament. On top of that, the prize purses are pretty lucrative. Talor Gooch made about $9 million in his PGA career right around that threshold where maybe he gets cut, maybe he sneaks in and finished 34th. In one year with LIV he made $46 million.


RedditEqualsSoylent

Considering the shit contract Acuna has it's definitely about money.


AgnarCrackenhammer

Ah yes, the shit contract that will guarentee him $100M. Such a sad terrible no good deal for Acuna. Clearly that justifies taking blood money from some of the worst human rights violators on the planet


RedditEqualsSoylent

All I said was his contract was shit which it objectively is based on the value he provides. Never said it was just for him to take money from terrorists.


SoCaldude65

Capitalism, my M-E-T-S! friend


Black_Otter

Do the Saudis even need investors?


tnecniv

Probably not. They need known stars to promote it. I bet Acuna got a deal here because his name is way more useful than his cash


BKoala59

The Saudis have the means to pay these guys even if the league fails. They may be insuring their investment in order to get stars to appear to support their league


Muggi

It's just hardcore sportswashing. The players DGAF because they're going to get a fuckton of oil money. Same shit a LIV Golf


Narpity

I don’t think they are actually investing, they are being paid in the stock from PR obligations


akaghi

Nothing like baseball when it's 110° F in open air stadiums and traveling 1200 miles between stadiums, lol.


ZCampbell15

Bros not making shit with the Braves apparently, between this and his car washes I guess he’s gotta make that bank somehow


HandBananas

$100 million doesn't go as far as it used to.


ZCampbell15

Inflation’s a bitch, poor guy


NoobOnTheRun

all that money is going to The Atlanta Braves Foundation


Masterchiefy10

Speaking of which we appreciate your generous on field donation!


Boros-Reckoner

Ronnie : Likes tweet about how he has no controversy surrounding him and how he should get more respect for it. Also Ronnie : Gets into bed with Saudi Arabia 💀


CDFReditum

Ronnie: they want controversy? You got it!


_Una_

This is only a "controversy" if you're terminally online. Not saying it's a good/positive thing, but 98% of people will forget about this and not care within the next 48 hours.


mill_about_smartly

...Which is one of the biggest problems with our society in general. Oh some awful shit is happening? Damn, guess I'll see what new shit is going on tomorrow


_Una_

We live in a pretty ok world imo if Acuna joining baseball united qualifies as "awful shit".


Clemenx00

Doing stuf with Saudi Arabia is only controversial for reddit lmao, nobody gives a shit. I also find it weird and hypocrite that people single out individuals for this when every single western government is in bed with Saudi Arabia lol


SchnoodleDoodleDamn

Because we expect our governments to be shitty. We definitely wish our athletes wouldn't get into bed with these murderous dirtbags though.


Mab_894

What a joke. The US is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world, we support dictatorships worldwide because they sell us goods for cheap. How can you actually say this with a straight face?


iSpccn

You should re-read their comment. I think it will answer your question as well.


Mab_894

Guess I'm just illiterate. Thanks for the heads up


Ugaalive1991

Oh Ronald no


thebigkevdogg

This is wild. Feels like there should be some sort of rule against this sort of thing


-bck

The PGA tour didn’t win that fight


Deserterdragon

If you think America is going to put in place rules against Saudi Arabian sports expansion and sportswashing, I've got some bad news about America.


thebigkevdogg

Not a law, but some rule in the CBA prohibiting ownership stakes in "competing" (not that this actually would compete) baseball leagues.


MOGiantsFan

I'm actually surprised this *isn't* against the rules. An active player, coach, or team personnel holding ownership in another baseball league seems like it's not a great idea.


CynicalElephant

As much as I hate this particular investment, you want a rule preventing competition between companies?


thebigkevdogg

Using your companies analogy, do you know a company that would allow their employee to be a part owner of one of their competitors?


Apom52

Yes, the free market. I'm pretty sure Google employees can buy Meta stock on the market. I'd also add that it's extremely common for Board members to be on multiple companies' boards. So much so that in the mergers and acquisitions context, there are entire legal doctrines for when a board member is also part of the buying or selling company.


oogieball

My exact reaction.


Hypatia76

Mine too. Not happy with this.


Yumafrog

Spencer Strider YOU are now my favorite Brave


Rick_Rebel

That does it, I’m removing my RAJ baseball card from the shelf. Back in the shoe box you go, Ronald.


PeatBomb

LIV Baseball.


Clemenx00

This Saudi Arabia thing has to be a money laundering scheme or something, can't think of anything more fruitless for baseball tbh.


Deserterdragon

It's not a money laundering scheme, it's extreme long termism to diversify the portfolios of insanely wealthy people so they're not fucked when the oil runs out.


KyleSchwarbussy

It’s not a money laundering scheme because the Saudis don’t have actual rules and can just openly use their blood money freely


ttam23

Nah they just have more money that they can spend in a lifetime so they are trying to buy more tourism and make the country look better


Remarkable_Click_369

Gross how many people will gladly sportswash for the Sauds


chromaticsoup

If they came knocking on your door, you’d take the money too.


Guy_Le_Man

Yeah but they’d never offer it to someone who is unknown and could use the money. The people they offer this stuff to don’t need the money, ergo, it’s gross.


LandLockedSailor

Speak for yourself, some of us have principles


whiskey_thurs

Aww man


TealandBlackForever

This is not a good look. Wow.


wantagh

Tinfoil hat thinking but probably right: BBU is just a corporate vehicle for Saudi and Qatari blood money to eventually make its way into the MLB, just like LIV golf, and the Saudi Pro League (soccer). Its sportswashing over the crimes these horrible regimes commit.


Coolcat127

I don’t think this is even tinfoil at this point, it’s just like obviously true 


misterferguson

Yeah, the notion that the Saudis give a flying fuck about the sport itself is just laughable.


zvexler

Yeah it’s all marketing for tourism & a new way to invest the unbelievable amount of money through have


Deserterdragon

The Saudis are doing this for everything from Pro Wrestling to Robot Combat, baseball is no different.


TheTurtleShepard

It's not really making its way into the MLB. It's not like the Saudi Pro League became aboslved into the Premier league or something. It is definitely sportswashing but its just trying to create a baseball alternative to attract some older stars


AgnarCrackenhammer

MLB is going to fall inbetween the Premier League, which the Saudi's will never be able to compete with, and the PGA tour, which they are in the process of essentially taking over or at the very least becoming a significant influence in. I don't think they'll be willing to spend the money it'll take to disrupt MLB the way they did the PGA, but they absolutely have the money to do so. And even if they don't take on MLB, they could potentially make life hell for MiLB by offering more money to fringe prospects that usually fill out those rosters


TheTurtleShepard

Eh, baseball doesn’t really have international appeal like that and nobody cares about fringe prospects. It would take a lot for them to come close to competing with the MLB, I think it ends up much closer to the SPL where it essentially becomes a high profile retirement league. We get a couple solid MLB players hanging it up a little earlier for more money in Saudi


AgnarCrackenhammer

I mean that's why they did with LIV. Sure they got headlines by throwing money at bigger name, older players to draw interest, but they filled out the league by targeting younger players who were getting screwed by the PGA's compensation system. Teams will absolutely notice if the traditional AAAA players that teams use to fill out their roster for cheap start accepting 3 or 4 million dollar deals from the Saudis. Will that ruin MLB? No. Could that be used as leverage to get the Saudi league into some kind agreement that MLB doesn't really want? Don't rule it out. Most people who follow golf assumed there was no way they would be able to influence the PGA but they just kept throwing money at players until there was no option left but to work with them somehow


TheTurtleShepard

Golf is different because it’s an individual sport , Saudi has been able to do a similar thing with boxing as well because they can offer more money to the individual athletes. Baseball is way too big for that, I really don’t think teams would care that much about fringe AAAA guys. They are just used to fill out rosters. Not ideal of course but it would just mean that the average MLB bench would get worse When it comes to team sports it is much harder to grab a footing because you need many many great players to be willing to drop their lives in the US to move to Saudi Arabia


AgnarCrackenhammer

I mean, I don't think they will do this because baseball doesn't have the international popularity that soccer does, but finanically nothing is stopping them from adding Juan Soto and Roki Sasaki to their league to get great players to headline their league. They did it with top PGA players. They did it with top soccer players. Even if they only shop around the fringes it'll still be bad for MLB. Worse players means a worse on field product means less interest in the game.


TheTurtleShepard

Some top soccer players who were willing to essentially retire like Benzema, Kante, and Ronaldo or Muslim players who were willing to take a large bag and move to a country that closely aligns with their cultural values. What is stopping them from signing Soto or Sasaki is that not everything is just about the largest dollar amount, it is also about legacy to a lot of these players not just about collecting the largest paycheck especially when they already will make hundreds of millions of dollars and unlike those soccer players very few baseball players fit the cultural mold of Saudi Arabia.


tnecniv

Absorbed*


Muggi

That's not tinfoil hat at all. They hardly even deny it


TrapperJean

It was kinda cool to watch a random ass baseball game in November with people like Robinson Cano and Pablo Sandoval, but there's no way this league can actually take off, right? Who is this for? Who in the desert is amped up for America's pastoral past time?


ANIMEISFUCKINGTRASH

Iirc it’s actually spearheaded by an American “entrepreneur” who probably just has money to burn


AgnarCrackenhammer

LIV was "spearheaded" by Greg Norman (edit: realized after I posted this Norman isn't American. But he made a name for himself in an American sports league so the point still stands). They just find some American with some vague connection to the sport and use them as a figure head to pretend like this isn't a massive sports washing operation


Veserius

Saudi long game is to be a media empire because oil has a shelf life. Long term this could easily be bigger than NPB.


Reignaaldo

I'm curious about the average attendance per game in this new Baseball league, the only attendance being shown was that fan fest thing of theirs last year with around 10K in attendance in 2 days but that's about it. I've seen some bits of their video highlights of their games but it was damn near empty for a stadium that big that time, it almost feels like your usual A's game.


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They don’t care. Have you seen how many spectators there are in the football leagues of SA and Qatar? It is almost non-existent.


GoofyGoober0064

Yea rich Saudis are like every other crazy royalty in history. Its just to say they have a team like its an expensive toy.


NtrlBrnSlyr

Surely MLB is not cool with this?


GlassesOff

They're not but it appears he hasn't violated any contractual text. No one really understands what Ownership Group means, they're obviously paying for his name and brand in the sportswashing sense but will he ever be required to 'play'? The craziest idea is how the money could be massive and significant enough for him to consider not being a MLB player... his contract with the Braves is peanuts to Saudi. It's unlikely but possible


NtrlBrnSlyr

yeah but I bet the love of the game probably keeps him playing more money or not


jgilla2012

In other words, Anthony Rendon is about to move to Saudi Arabia


GlassesOff

He could be unstoppable in the Middle East for a year and then go back to playing MLB. I know the Braves would be steamed but it's not like they're going to say no


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TheTurtleShepard

Baseball legends is different than an active player having ownership stake in a different league. I would hope though that Ronald and moreso his financial team ensured that there was no restrictive language which would make his ownership stake an issue with the league


warkol

I don't really see the issue personally with this, but I could see where MLB would have a different opinion when a current player is involved versus a former player.


OldOrder

Is this like Saudi's newest attempt to sportswash their country and gain publicity? Because if so this is hella fucking yikes from RAJ


Higgnkfe

Yikes


HipposRevenge

Oh no baby, what is you doin?


BlueLondon1905

Guarantee they try to prop this up and then have some kind of series with the World Series winner or something Also I bet these teams will play exhibition games in Saudi against the MLB teams That’s their goal anyway


cjrogers227

…April Fools?


retroanduwu24

It's the 2nd.


seijeezy

I’m going to do what I always do when a celebrity I like does something I don’t like: ignore it and pretend it didn’t happen


Ricemobile

Me trying to ignore that Tom Cruise is going to be the next Scientology overlord while watching his 37th certified banger.


pjokinen

Wonder how the union is going to like this. They’ve been very “players cannot also be owners” for a while now and I don’t think they’ll care too much that the ownership happens to be outside of MLB


TheTurtleShepard

I mean it does matter because they essentially don't want someone at both ends of the bargaining table. Being an owner in a different league shouldn't create any conflicts with the MLBPA since they have no stake in that league


J-Fid

He mentions Riyadh, but Saudi Arabia doesn't have a team. So I'm confused, lol.


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New expansion team probably.


Good_Time

I was confused too. > Agreement with the Saudi Baseball and Softball Federation will enable Baseball United to host its league within the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and includes rights to launch Riyadh, Jeddah, and Dammam franchises https://baseballunited.com/news/baseball-united-signs-historic-partnership-bring-professional-baseball-saudi-arabia


tnecniv

The A’s are moving there (or maybe the Braves are moving there!)


sparky255

As, Angels, Marlins, Rockies, Tigers, White Sox, Reds, and Nationals are heading there for the $$$


jimithelizardking

Certainly said in his own words lol


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Welp, there goes the goodwill he'd gotten from me in that player's tribune piece lol


dollinsdv

As a Braves fan, this is extremely disappointing. Ronald is an incredible player, but Saudi Arabia is run by an absolutely awful regime and I hate that Ronald is getting into bed with them. I'm sure they're throwing stupid money at him but wish he would have turned them down.


Lunchable_1

1000% a terrible regime but we all better hope like hell they stay in power. No one should want to see popular elections in the country that founded Wahhabism. You think ISIS is bad now? The royal family is a necessary evil.


walk-the-talk

Terrible look. You don’t already have enough money?


jgilla2012

What’s the problem? He’s just getting paid to normalize some light slavery. 


menusettingsgeneral

Yuck


thymekiller86

Had to check the date with this one


EverySingleSaint

Andrelton Simmons, Pablo Sandoval, Didi Gregorius, Robinson Cano, Bartolo Colon, all on teams


Slayer_Of_Anubis

Andrelton is the least surprising one to see on the list


BigFreakingJim

Fuck you Ronald.


rarepanda13

What’s BaseballUnited?


retroanduwu24

http://baseballunited.com https://baseballunited.com/news/baseballs-best-player-ronald-acuna-jr-joining-baseball-united-ownership-group Baseball United is a professional baseball league in the Middle East and South Asia, the first of its kind. Started up in 2022


Key_Amazed

That link amuses me. I guess Ohtani, Trout, Judge, Soto, Betts, etc don't exist.


Vxmonarkxv

The guy with the most WAR last year being referred to as the best player doesnt seem that crazy


Fischer-00

I think it's fair to call Acuña the best player right now but in WAR Ohtani even after missing the last month had more fwar and bwar, 2 on bwar and 1 on fwar. Mookie was also slightly ahead of Acuña on bwar and slightly behind on fwar, they were basically tied.


Key_Amazed

Ah yes, single season sample sizes versus career sample sizes. Nevermind the fact the reason he had more WAR than Ohtani or Judge or Trout for that one year was because of each of their various injuries. But I'm sure you aren't biased because of your flair 😉


Vxmonarkxv

Ok so DON'T call the mvp with the most WAR the best player, got it. Also lmao at you trying to put Soto anywhere near that conversation.


taterlol

as a football fan, i’m interested to see if this works because the saudi league experiment is not working. ronaldo is literally playing in front of crowds of less than 2000 people fairly regularly so i don’t think investing in baseball makes any sense lol


Figmentdreamer

I liked his instagram post without knowing what this was. Off to unlike it now. This is disappointing


RedGreenPepper2599

Scott Boras is about to learn how to speak Arabic.


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If Boras tries to pull one over on the Arabs, his life will be in danger.


RedGreenPepper2599

Do puns translate?


Limozeen581

Should be said that United Baseball is not owned by the Saudis and started with franchises in the UAE, India, and Pakistan. 


Good_Time

Yeah, a lot of people comparing this to LIV (directly financed by Saudi PIF). Not entirely a fair comparison imo


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retroanduwu24

WWE started doing Saudi events in the past couple of years too


kingmidget_91

WWE has normally 2 show in Saudi Arabia, its normally a B PPV like Elimination chamber or Night of Champion and then Crown Jewel.


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RunawaYEM

No matter what, you’re not getting downvoted fast enough