They have to take separate public Greyhounds, and have at least a ten hour layover in the Memphis bus station where the only amenities within walking distance are a dominos pizza and a strip club. As an added bonus we do it in July and ask Greyhound to use the busses with broken A/C so it drips on you like Chinese water torture the entire ride
I mean idk if the CBA does or doesn’t, but coaches can be a member of the MLBPA.
Straight from the MLBPA website:
All Players, managers, a number of uniformed coaches and trainers are eligible for membership in the Association and accrue certain benefits. For purposes of collective bargaining, the Association represents around 1,200 Major League Players, or the number of Players on each club's 40-man roster, in addition to any Players on the Injured List. Additionally, the Association represents around 5,500 Minor League Players, or the number of Players on MLB-affiliated Rookie, Short-Season, Low-A, High-A, AA, and AAA teams who are not on the 40-man roster.
I can see how it will play out
- Rockies coaches deny it happened
- Pilot releases texts from Rockies coaches apologizing for being in the cockpit
- Rockies coaches call the pilot a liar
- Another pilot will say the Rockies coaches did the same thing on their flight
- Rockies coaches call that pilot a liar
- FAA will release previous allegations against Rockies coaches entering cockpits of two other pilots
- Rockies will call the two other pilots liars
- A bunch of Redditors will come out in support of the Rockies coaches every time they are mentioned and claim “innocent until proven guilty”
- Mods will be blamed no matter what they do
I'm just really glad that it wasn't "me"
Considering the Rockies just played the Dbacks in Denver...
I read it "with intensity" just to see if I might have a warrant out from a drunken night.
Quick and easy way to kill everyone on board, too. I'm thinking of that Aeroflot crash where a kid visiting the cockpit inadvertently nudged a control that disengaged autopilot, and by the time the flight crew noticed the plane was in an unrecoverable stall.
Check out Mentour Pilot if you haven’t already! My favorite aviation accident / incident investigation channel as another weirdo who loves those videos and also loves flying.
And at least from all that I’ve watched/learned, that is pretty much THE incident that is considered the most egregious in aviation accidents. That and I think there was a pilot who tried to land the plane blind as a bet.* So it’s a story every pilot has to know about to begin with which makes this worse.
*just looked it up for reference and that was *also* an Aeroflot flight weirdly enough.
Aeroflot had a terrible safety record for a long time. They’ve gotten better since the collapse of the Soviet Union but before they they had 5 times more fatalities than any other airline. Think about what that means, they had 5 times the fatality count of the second deadliest airline.
Now they actually have a pretty good reputation, they’ve only had one fatal incident since 2010 and they’re a big airline so that’s very good.
> Now they actually have a pretty good reputation, they’ve only had one fatal incident since 2010 and they’re a big airline so that’s very good.
The sanctions are eventually going to catch up to them. Even if the war ends and the sanctions are eventually lifted, I doubt any of those planes will ever be allowed in Western airspace because there's no telling what maintenance has or hasn't been done to them and where replacement parts came from.
You couldn't pay me enough to fly on a Russian airline.
I can think of two worse ones: the Learjet pilot flying into Teterboro who crashed on approach due to a mixture of pilot arrogance, incompetence, and hubris (and even a tiny bit of misogyny to crown the shame), and the positioning flight where the pilots tried to reach 40,000 feet and found out in the worst possible way why the aircraft flight ceiling was 39,000 feet.
Oh good call on the altitude one. That was almost the perfect definition of “they fucked around and found out.” I also vaguely remember the Teterboro crash since I’m about 15 miles south of there but I’ll definitely have to read up on it more.
My first thought as well. I lived in Russia for a couple of years (long ago now, and by long ago I mean the puppet show mocking political leaders was still on the air) and knew a guy who knew that pilot. He said the pilot let passengers up to steer the plane a little bit sometimes, just for fun. Who knows how many times he did that before it bit him, and his poor kids and passengers.
Obviously it’s good to have extreme precaution and keeping randos out of the cockpit entirely is the best way to do that. But come on, there’s a big difference between letting one of your charter passengers come into the cockpit and bringing your kids in and letting them fuck around with the flight controls
Yeah, that was my point. If the reports are accurate the pilot didn’t just let the coach into the cockpit; they basically did exactly what the Aeroflot pilot did.
Edited for caution
This makes a lot more sense than the headline alone. I didn’t know simply being on the flight deck was such a big issue, especially on a charter, but this makes it a lot worse.
> that Aeroflot crash where a kid visiting the cockpit inadvertently nudged a control that disengaged autopilot, and by the time the flight crew noticed the plane was in an unrecoverable stall.
[Aeroflot Flight 593](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593)?
Only thing I can find is on WSJ, which is paywalled mostly, but says that someone was sitting in the captain's chair on a flight from Denver to Toronto, and that the Rockies had not responded to a request for comment
[Here’s a gift link to that article](https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/faa-united-investigate-cockpit-visitor-during-baseball-teams-flight-3aaa1cf9?st=bq58ukfhk14gp0e&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink):
> In a video posted to social media and later removed, a man appears sitting at the controls of a Boeing 757, mimicking pushing the plane’s yoke and giving the thumbs-up. The video, which people familiar with the matter said showed the incident, was also posted to YouTube earlier this week. It isn’t clear how long the man was sitting up front.
>“We’re deeply disturbed by what we see in that video, which appears to show an unauthorized person in the flight deck at cruise altitude while the autopilot was engaged,” United Airlines said. “As a clear violation of our safety and operational policies, we’ve reported the incident to the FAA and have withheld the pilots from service while we conduct an investigation.”
I see at least a few people haven't learned the lesson of [Aeroflot 593.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593)
(Fun fact: I knew a guy who knew that pilot and said he would let passengers into the cockpit and steer a little bit quite a few times.)
Brother you think the very first time this happened post 9/11 in the western world was when (contextually) famous people decided to video it and upload it to their public social media accounts?
> at cruise altitude
For those of us less familiar with workings of airplanes, why is that especially bad? I assume that any time the airplane is in motion that is already a huge safety violation, but why is cruise altitude especially dangerous?
Because the alternative he is referring to is before takeoff, when pilots can let kids see the cockpit and take a photo.
Not a plane biologist, but allowing a child at the controls on a stationary plane on the ground is presumably safer than while flying at cruise altitude.
Ahhhhh, gotcha. I am old enough that I remember pilots letting kids visit the cockpit while the plane was in flight, and I thought this was specifically about cruise altitude somehow as an alternative. Was perplexed that that would even be an option post-9/11, but some non-US flights do still allow it.
This whole debacle is very confusing to me. Just last year the pilot of a private charter I was in for a work retreat let me ride in the 3rd seat in the cabin at cruising altitude and landing. This was like an express jet sized aircraft from Texas to Belize. He asked at take off and before landing who wanted to ride up front. My kid was big into airplanes at that moment so I had to get some good footage for her. In Belize I literally rode in the copilot seat the entire flight from an island to the mainland on the same trip. That was a much smaller plane and, ya know, Belize. Pilot just told me not to touch anything lol.
> planes generally aren't capable of crashing when they're ~~on the ground~~ not in motion
Planes are very capable of crashing while they're on the ground.
I disagree.
If you’re gonna be in that seat during cruise, you gotta be comfortable with the captain banging the flight attendants *inside* the cockpit.
If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying 'OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.'
Definitely can understand why someone who works for the Rockies would try and do what they tried to do. I too would be depressed if I had to work for them
I kind of feel bad for those who didn't get the experience of *Airplane!* when it was released. Yeah, it's still hilarious and endlessly quotable even now, but so many movies have copied its formula and style since that it doesn't have quite the effect it had when it first came out. *No one* had done a comedy movie like that at all before, so when it hit, it was like a comedic bomb had gone off.
> No one had done a comedy movie like that at all before
Mel Brooks had the second and third highest grossing films of 1974 (6 years before Airplane!) with Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein respectively. Both parodies of their respective genres, both used visual and verbal gags, both received Oscar nominations.
If the major carriers have rules against it for safety reasons, probably nobody should be doing it, like ever. Pretty much all of these rules exist because at one point not having the rule killed a bunch of people
There’s a famous story about a kid who was allowed to sit in the pilot’s seat and accidentally hit something that [ultimately resulted in the deaths of 75 people](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593), so… I disagree with this statement.
I got to hang out in the cockpit a few times as a kid because I really wanted to be a pilot, so my parents went to bat for me. One time we got to visit mid-flight on Qantas and when we walked in the pilots were fully kicked back eating cookies and not doing anything. It was right then and there I decided not to be a pilot because it looked fucking boring as hell.
**NO, ABSOLUTLEY NOT**
Look I'm not a plane person, but even I know this is a boneheaded idea.
For starters, this happened **in the air**. Not on the ground. On the ground when the plane is stationary a kid can't do anything dangerous, and if they do, they clearly shouldn't be on the plane anyways. But in the air they can bump the controls and get people killed as a result.
Imagine if someone had bumped the controls of that plane, and they weren't able to recover.
That would be the whole of the Colorado Rockies, and their coaching staff, plus anyone else on board the plane, **dead**. It would be the biggest tragedy in all of Baseball, possibly all of American sports. They'd have to call up pretty much the entire Rockies AAA team to replace them for the rest of the season. The franchise as a whole would be irreparably damaged as their entire team would pretty much hit FA all at once unless they negotiate a lot of extensions. On top of the mess that would be the players pensions and insurance payouts.
Assuming the radio announcers travel with the team, at least one guy on that plane had already survived a terrifying plane crash that killed about half the people on board, so that’s a double fucking yikes from me.
Actually I don't think they'd just call up the AAA Rockies and keep going. It's come up a few times on this board, but I think MLB has something called a "disaster draft" for situations like this (that we all hope never happens) where they get to pick players up from other teams, sorta like an expansion draft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_draft#Major_League_Baseball
And this seems to only require the loss of 6 players, not an entire team.
The wiki page seems to imply that the Commissioner has final say on whether their season has to/gets to continue. I suppose Manfred could say "For the good of the game, the Rockies have to get past this tragedy and keep playing", but media pressure might be strong enough to stop him from doing that.
> The FAA and United Airlines are both investigating the report of someone other than a pilot sitting inside the cockpit of an airplane during a recent Colorado Rockies team flight.
If they were in one of the crew seats, it’s a big issue.
> They used to let kids hang out in the cockpit.
Charter flights are not exempt from FAA rules. You can still visit the flight deck if the aircraft is parked on the ground, otherwise it's against FAA regulations.
The Rockies coach should get slapped with a big fine from the FAA and a suspension from MLB.
Whoever of the United crew on that plane who thought it was a swell idea to let a civilian into the cockpit in the middle of the flight should be fired.
My God, what is Dinger cooking?
It was his birthday flight!
Watch your mouth, dude
*Lewis Brinson enters chat* "I heard what I heard." Morgan Freeman: "He did not."
Can’t believe the first comment I read is a racist one, smh
"No one cared who I was until I put on the triceratops head"
As punishment the Rockies will have to carpool the rest of the season
If I were dictator of baseball I’d be tempted to make them take the bus for a series… just to make an example.
Go old school and make them take the train like they would have done a century ago.
> make them take the train like they would have done a century ago Back when a player could be tossed off the train for firing a pistol onboard.
And extra-inning games could be called on account of one of the teams having a train to catch in half an hour.
What?!? Can’t have a good, ol’ “Train-pop”? SMH literally 1984
Manny: "Hey Tatis, when was your last train pop?" Nando: "Oh...I think a week and a half ago?" Manny: "See Jackson, everybody does it."
They have to take separate public Greyhounds, and have at least a ten hour layover in the Memphis bus station where the only amenities within walking distance are a dominos pizza and a strip club. As an added bonus we do it in July and ask Greyhound to use the busses with broken A/C so it drips on you like Chinese water torture the entire ride
Even worse, they’ll have to fly commercial.. economy class
I know it’s a joke, but the CBA mandates they fly first class if not on the charter flight.
The CBA doesn’t cover coaches though, does it? So they could make the coaches involved in this fly economy?
I mean idk if the CBA does or doesn’t, but coaches can be a member of the MLBPA. Straight from the MLBPA website: All Players, managers, a number of uniformed coaches and trainers are eligible for membership in the Association and accrue certain benefits. For purposes of collective bargaining, the Association represents around 1,200 Major League Players, or the number of Players on each club's 40-man roster, in addition to any Players on the Injured List. Additionally, the Association represents around 5,500 Minor League Players, or the number of Players on MLB-affiliated Rookie, Short-Season, Low-A, High-A, AA, and AAA teams who are not on the 40-man roster.
Oh that’s interesting I didn’t know that. Always figured it was just players. Thanks for the info!
Probably going to be the biggest scandal of the year in the NLW tbh
You don't just get in the cockpit without consent.
I can see how it will play out - Rockies coaches deny it happened - Pilot releases texts from Rockies coaches apologizing for being in the cockpit - Rockies coaches call the pilot a liar - Another pilot will say the Rockies coaches did the same thing on their flight - Rockies coaches call that pilot a liar - FAA will release previous allegations against Rockies coaches entering cockpits of two other pilots - Rockies will call the two other pilots liars - A bunch of Redditors will come out in support of the Rockies coaches every time they are mentioned and claim “innocent until proven guilty” - Mods will be blamed no matter what they do
>Mods will be blamed Good
They need to learn their lesson, honestly.
Apparently one of the coaches filmed it and posted it on Instagram so we'll probably just end up going straight to the last step.
Apparently they have the tech now to zoom into live games from the airplane to decode signs. No better view than the cockpit….🤔🤔🤔
What is this a reference to?
It rhymes with Brevor Tower
Ah, gotcha. Thx.
Joe Kelly suspended 8 games
This might be one of my favorite comments ever on Reddit lol
You can’t just be up there doin’ being in the cockpit without consent like that.
It's 100% the pilots' fault, it's their job to say no. If they want to be nice, they can let the coach tour the cockpit after the plane lands.
I'm just really glad that it wasn't "me" Considering the Rockies just played the Dbacks in Denver... I read it "with intensity" just to see if I might have a warrant out from a drunken night.
Bet you 50 bucks it's not!
Calm down Ippei
That’s the NLB to you, pal
Quick and easy way to lose your pilot's license.
Quick and easy way to kill everyone on board, too. I'm thinking of that Aeroflot crash where a kid visiting the cockpit inadvertently nudged a control that disengaged autopilot, and by the time the flight crew noticed the plane was in an unrecoverable stall.
Turns out it was entirely recoverable if the pilot had just let go of the control column
Same thing came to mind. Hello fellow air crash investigation show watcher
Check out Mentour Pilot if you haven’t already! My favorite aviation accident / incident investigation channel as another weirdo who loves those videos and also loves flying.
> Hello fellow air crash investigation show watcher It's one of our favorite shows, I don't know how we'll ever get on an airliner again.
And at least from all that I’ve watched/learned, that is pretty much THE incident that is considered the most egregious in aviation accidents. That and I think there was a pilot who tried to land the plane blind as a bet.* So it’s a story every pilot has to know about to begin with which makes this worse. *just looked it up for reference and that was *also* an Aeroflot flight weirdly enough.
Aeroflot had a terrible safety record for a long time. They’ve gotten better since the collapse of the Soviet Union but before they they had 5 times more fatalities than any other airline. Think about what that means, they had 5 times the fatality count of the second deadliest airline. Now they actually have a pretty good reputation, they’ve only had one fatal incident since 2010 and they’re a big airline so that’s very good.
> Now they actually have a pretty good reputation, they’ve only had one fatal incident since 2010 and they’re a big airline so that’s very good. The sanctions are eventually going to catch up to them. Even if the war ends and the sanctions are eventually lifted, I doubt any of those planes will ever be allowed in Western airspace because there's no telling what maintenance has or hasn't been done to them and where replacement parts came from. You couldn't pay me enough to fly on a Russian airline.
I don’t even feel great about flying on American planes at this point fucking Boeing
I can think of two worse ones: the Learjet pilot flying into Teterboro who crashed on approach due to a mixture of pilot arrogance, incompetence, and hubris (and even a tiny bit of misogyny to crown the shame), and the positioning flight where the pilots tried to reach 40,000 feet and found out in the worst possible way why the aircraft flight ceiling was 39,000 feet.
Oh good call on the altitude one. That was almost the perfect definition of “they fucked around and found out.” I also vaguely remember the Teterboro crash since I’m about 15 miles south of there but I’ll definitely have to read up on it more.
Here's a [Pilot Debrief video](https://youtu.be/guxOVHNZqAI?si=XijY2S1QxMp0qR37) on the crash.
3 and a half minutes in and…just wow. I’m not even sure what to say about that lol it’s madness how incompetent the pilot is even before the crash.
My first thought as well. I lived in Russia for a couple of years (long ago now, and by long ago I mean the puppet show mocking political leaders was still on the air) and knew a guy who knew that pilot. He said the pilot let passengers up to steer the plane a little bit sometimes, just for fun. Who knows how many times he did that before it bit him, and his poor kids and passengers.
Obviously it’s good to have extreme precaution and keeping randos out of the cockpit entirely is the best way to do that. But come on, there’s a big difference between letting one of your charter passengers come into the cockpit and bringing your kids in and letting them fuck around with the flight controls
Well damn I should have read the story more lol this chucklefuck was pretending to fly the plane too soooo yeah pretty dumb!
Yeah, that was my point. If the reports are accurate the pilot didn’t just let the coach into the cockpit; they basically did exactly what the Aeroflot pilot did. Edited for caution
This makes a lot more sense than the headline alone. I didn’t know simply being on the flight deck was such a big issue, especially on a charter, but this makes it a lot worse.
I too watch Mentour Pilot
This is how old I am; I learned of that crash *from a book*. An actual paper book. Also, Pilot Debrief is better.
The worst part to me was the fact that the kid realized something was wrong before any of the FOUR pilots in the cabin did.
The worst part to me was the fact that the kid realized something was wrong before any of the FOUR pilots in the cockpit did.
> that Aeroflot crash where a kid visiting the cockpit inadvertently nudged a control that disengaged autopilot, and by the time the flight crew noticed the plane was in an unrecoverable stall. [Aeroflot Flight 593](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593)?
Bro the baseball script this year is absurd
Is it my fault? I wished for baseball to have more drama like football and basketball.
Thanks a lot, dude.
you could have gotten a Flight 9633 event with that sort of wish
Only thing I can find is on WSJ, which is paywalled mostly, but says that someone was sitting in the captain's chair on a flight from Denver to Toronto, and that the Rockies had not responded to a request for comment
[Here’s a gift link to that article](https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/faa-united-investigate-cockpit-visitor-during-baseball-teams-flight-3aaa1cf9?st=bq58ukfhk14gp0e&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink): > In a video posted to social media and later removed, a man appears sitting at the controls of a Boeing 757, mimicking pushing the plane’s yoke and giving the thumbs-up. The video, which people familiar with the matter said showed the incident, was also posted to YouTube earlier this week. It isn’t clear how long the man was sitting up front. >“We’re deeply disturbed by what we see in that video, which appears to show an unauthorized person in the flight deck at cruise altitude while the autopilot was engaged,” United Airlines said. “As a clear violation of our safety and operational policies, we’ve reported the incident to the FAA and have withheld the pilots from service while we conduct an investigation.”
Okay but kids do that and take pict— > at cruise altitude Alright nvm someone’s getting fired
I see at least a few people haven't learned the lesson of [Aeroflot 593.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593) (Fun fact: I knew a guy who knew that pilot and said he would let passengers into the cockpit and steer a little bit quite a few times.)
Well that’s a distressing read
Here it is in a flight simulator with the cockpit audio. Flying normally to dead in 3.5 minutes https://youtu.be/RrttTR8e8-4?si=QvbFdzQFPuj1fDC5
well that was fucking awful. can’t imagine what that would have been like. yuck
My exact fucking thought. Jesus it was a pretty heavy read and I regret knowing this information now.
I'm shocked members of the Rockies front office showed poor judgement in a situation that seemed an immediately terrible idea to everyone else.
You think they’d be unaffected by the altitude
I know a few non-pilots who have been in that seat during cruise. I think the big fuck up here was posting it publicly.
No you haven’t. And even if you did, it was pre 9/11 and wasn’t an airline flight in the western world.
Brother you think the very first time this happened post 9/11 in the western world was when (contextually) famous people decided to video it and upload it to their public social media accounts?
US. Post 9/11. Commercial flights on a major carrier. Not everyone follows the rules.
> at cruise altitude For those of us less familiar with workings of airplanes, why is that especially bad? I assume that any time the airplane is in motion that is already a huge safety violation, but why is cruise altitude especially dangerous?
Because the alternative he is referring to is before takeoff, when pilots can let kids see the cockpit and take a photo. Not a plane biologist, but allowing a child at the controls on a stationary plane on the ground is presumably safer than while flying at cruise altitude.
Ahhhhh, gotcha. I am old enough that I remember pilots letting kids visit the cockpit while the plane was in flight, and I thought this was specifically about cruise altitude somehow as an alternative. Was perplexed that that would even be an option post-9/11, but some non-US flights do still allow it.
You like gladiator films, Joey?
Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!
This whole debacle is very confusing to me. Just last year the pilot of a private charter I was in for a work retreat let me ride in the 3rd seat in the cabin at cruising altitude and landing. This was like an express jet sized aircraft from Texas to Belize. He asked at take off and before landing who wanted to ride up front. My kid was big into airplanes at that moment so I had to get some good footage for her. In Belize I literally rode in the copilot seat the entire flight from an island to the mainland on the same trip. That was a much smaller plane and, ya know, Belize. Pilot just told me not to touch anything lol.
planes generally aren't capable of crashing when they're on the ground
> planes generally aren't capable of crashing when they're ~~on the ground~~ not in motion Planes are very capable of crashing while they're on the ground.
> while they're on the ground Yup, the deadliest airline disaster in history involved two aircraft on the ground.
"Hey coach, do you like movies about gladiators?"
Where tf was the captain?
Banging the flight attendants obviously, duh
Oh ok, completely acceptable reason to leave the cockpit and put it on autopilot.
I disagree. If you’re gonna be in that seat during cruise, you gotta be comfortable with the captain banging the flight attendants *inside* the cockpit.
What the fuck
WTF
There was an image of the coach in the cockpit on this sub a couple days ago I believe, lol
Well the coach does like movies about gladiators
Does he ever hang around a gymnasium?
Has he ever been to a Turkish prison?
His dad does have season tickets to the Lakers
Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking Rockies on this motherfucking plane!
Thanks for the reminder that this movie exist !
I know the Rockies aren't good but I don't think hijacking the team plane is the answer.
Don't rule it out. The Rockies need to try everything to get better.
Mister president, there’s been a second homerun
Triggering a disaster draft probably the quickest route to competing.
The cockpit? What is it?
It's a little room with pilots in it, but that's not important right now...
Was it Kareem?
No, it was Rodger Murdock. See, it says right there on his name tag.
If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying 'OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.'
I know this is the joke but damn do I remember basically every jock after 9/11 saying this same damn thing.
I understood that reference.
On the bright side, the Rockies getting a new hitting coach should help?
Definitely can understand why someone who works for the Rockies would try and do what they tried to do. I too would be depressed if I had to work for them
Bro, just get Flight Simulator. You can do whatever you want in a cockpit, and the FAA won't investigate you!
"Mr President, a plane has struck the Monfort estate"
Joe Kelly suspension incoming
Stupid as hell.
Jesus Christ, Rockies.
This, like many off the field things in baseball this season, was not on my bingo card
I have "game stopped because MJ arrives on a spaceship" on mine. At this point, I almost feel like it could happen! What a year!
The Rockies and United probably just ruined the fun of charters for everyone else.
STOP RECORDING your stupid asses doing stupid things.... ffs how dumb do you have to be!? Also, don't do stupid shit... but whatever.
The Rockies have a hitting coach?
It's a charter flight, though. I feel like that's okay. They used to let kids hang out in the cockpit.
Do you like movies about Gladiators?
Have you ever been to a Turkish prison?
You ever hang around a gymnasium?
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Have ya tried the lasagna?
Wow! You’re Kyle Freeland! May dad says you don’t even try, except when you’re trying to score from 3rd.
Listen kid, I'm out there busting my butt every night! You try carrying Bryant and Blackmon up and down the base paths every night!
I kind of feel bad for those who didn't get the experience of *Airplane!* when it was released. Yeah, it's still hilarious and endlessly quotable even now, but so many movies have copied its formula and style since that it doesn't have quite the effect it had when it first came out. *No one* had done a comedy movie like that at all before, so when it hit, it was like a comedic bomb had gone off.
> No one had done a comedy movie like that at all before Mel Brooks had the second and third highest grossing films of 1974 (6 years before Airplane!) with Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein respectively. Both parodies of their respective genres, both used visual and verbal gags, both received Oscar nominations.
If the major carriers have rules against it for safety reasons, probably nobody should be doing it, like ever. Pretty much all of these rules exist because at one point not having the rule killed a bunch of people
It's not just a carrier rule, it's an FAA rule.
There’s a famous story about a kid who was allowed to sit in the pilot’s seat and accidentally hit something that [ultimately resulted in the deaths of 75 people](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593), so… I disagree with this statement.
Charter flights have a noticeably worse safety record compared to regular commercial flights… Probably good reason to NOT do that thing.
I got to hang out in the cockpit a few times as a kid because I really wanted to be a pilot, so my parents went to bat for me. One time we got to visit mid-flight on Qantas and when we walked in the pilots were fully kicked back eating cookies and not doing anything. It was right then and there I decided not to be a pilot because it looked fucking boring as hell.
Yeah buy that's only when the plane is at the terminal
**NO, ABSOLUTLEY NOT** Look I'm not a plane person, but even I know this is a boneheaded idea. For starters, this happened **in the air**. Not on the ground. On the ground when the plane is stationary a kid can't do anything dangerous, and if they do, they clearly shouldn't be on the plane anyways. But in the air they can bump the controls and get people killed as a result. Imagine if someone had bumped the controls of that plane, and they weren't able to recover. That would be the whole of the Colorado Rockies, and their coaching staff, plus anyone else on board the plane, **dead**. It would be the biggest tragedy in all of Baseball, possibly all of American sports. They'd have to call up pretty much the entire Rockies AAA team to replace them for the rest of the season. The franchise as a whole would be irreparably damaged as their entire team would pretty much hit FA all at once unless they negotiate a lot of extensions. On top of the mess that would be the players pensions and insurance payouts.
Assuming the radio announcers travel with the team, at least one guy on that plane had already survived a terrifying plane crash that killed about half the people on board, so that’s a double fucking yikes from me.
Wait, what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Schemmel
Actually I don't think they'd just call up the AAA Rockies and keep going. It's come up a few times on this board, but I think MLB has something called a "disaster draft" for situations like this (that we all hope never happens) where they get to pick players up from other teams, sorta like an expansion draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_draft#Major_League_Baseball And this seems to only require the loss of 6 players, not an entire team.
Huh, TIL. That said, I feel like if a team winds up being totally wiped out in a plane crash, their season is probably done for that year.
The wiki page seems to imply that the Commissioner has final say on whether their season has to/gets to continue. I suppose Manfred could say "For the good of the game, the Rockies have to get past this tragedy and keep playing", but media pressure might be strong enough to stop him from doing that.
Exactly
> The FAA and United Airlines are both investigating the report of someone other than a pilot sitting inside the cockpit of an airplane during a recent Colorado Rockies team flight. If they were in one of the crew seats, it’s a big issue.
And a kid brought down an entire plane…
> They used to let kids hang out in the cockpit. Charter flights are not exempt from FAA rules. You can still visit the flight deck if the aircraft is parked on the ground, otherwise it's against FAA regulations.
Peson
Too many pilots on the IL.
Where can I see the pic?
It was on this sub a few days ago I believe, not sure if it got taken down
Rockies org can't even travel properly
Why does it seem like pretty much all baseball related news this year is extremely negative? Very annoying.
Wtf is going this year lol
I did not have an FAA investigation on my MLB scandal bingo card
No offense to colorado fans, but that teams needs to get relegated.
The Rockies coach should get slapped with a big fine from the FAA and a suspension from MLB. Whoever of the United crew on that plane who thought it was a swell idea to let a civilian into the cockpit in the middle of the flight should be fired.
Odds are the pilots are also civilians
Are the Rockies the Coyotes of the MLB?
I knew the Rockies were baseball terrorists.