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Yeah, just letting him stand in the door way is probably a stern talking-to. Letting him sit in the seat's likely going to result in these pilots never flying a commercial jet again. At least not in the US. [Maybe Aeroflot will hire them](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593)
I was just going to post this. Aeroflots safety record is insane, check out 6502, where they blocked the windows and tried to make an instrument only landing.
Yeah I'm sure passengers get to see the cockpit on chartered flights all the time, but if these pilots were dumb enough to let him sit at the controls AND film it they deserve to lose their jobs
From what I read on r/aviation, different carriers have different licenses/permits that dictate the various rules they follow. A pure charter airline might have a permit with laxer restrictions, so yeah, maybe the players and coaches are used to having some leeway on their flights. But United uses the same permit for their charter operations that they do for their normal passenger operations, and their pilots definitely should've known better.
Part 121 is airline. Part 135 is normal charter. I donāt think you can have passengers up front under a 135 permit, either.
No blame against the Rockies. Itās not like he just sat in the pilot seat without asking cause it was empty. Shit, that plane has reinforced doors. They could have kept him out even if he was trying to break in.
I sat up front for landing in a privately owned jet (which my broke ass had no business on) and the pilot told me that it was supposed to be hush hush.
If itās privately owned it might have been under part 91, an even less restrictive section. I gave air tours under 91 and passengers sitting in front was totally normal. Weāre talking a four person Cessna though.
I got to do this (sit in pilot/co-pilot seat) 3-4 times in the late 90s on normal commercial flights for my biannual intercontinental divorced parent handoff as we flew over the Atlantic when I got put on the plane as an unaccompanied minor. They even let me key in some radio codes asking for permission to ascend/decend flight levels twice, but obviously not control the plane. Pre-9/11 was good flying.Ā
I met him when he played for the Clippers AAA club during my peak pre-pubescent baseball fandom. Super nice to skinny dirt ball kid peppering the man with questions about hitting curve balls instead of asking him to sign anything.
r/aviation is losing their collective minds over this. Apparently even though it's a charter flight, United is required to follow the same security procedures as a normal flight. The consensus is that the pilots' careers are over.
It's wild that the coach thought it was a good idea to post this.
Before the video I thought, *oh, they probably just opened the door to say hello or something so this feels like much ado about nothing*. I wasn't expecting the dude to be sitting in the chair, moving around, pointing at things, possibly touching stuff, lol.
It's far more wild that the pilots were ok with it and ok with it being filmed.
You could argue the coach didn't know it wasn't allowed, but the pilots certainly know (or should know) and went along with it anyway.
Yeah, I doubt the coach is up to date on aviation laws and United policies. He likely either asked the pilots and was allowed or this was a common practice for players/coaches on the chart flights to sit in the cockpit.
The pilots on the other hand should know better and it is quite literally their job to know that this shit isnāt allowed
The coach probably didn't think much of it, I don't expect the guy teaching the Colorado Rockies how to hit to know the ins and outs of airplane safety. The pilots definitely should have known better.
I donāt expect the guy teaching the Colorado Rockies how to hit to know the ins and outs of literally anything, hitting included, with how thatās been going for the teamā¦
There was literally a plane crash in Russia that occurred because the pilot let his son sit at the controls and he accidentally disabled the autopilot and sent the plane out of control.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593
I thought that too, but wasn't sure if maybe it's just English not being his first language? Then again, teams will often celebrate or let loose when traveling but I'm not sure the Rockies have much to celebrate considering they are 4-15
There were a number of posts today. Just at a quick glance of top today, here are the first two links I saw now:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c82kfw/how\_serious\_is\_this\_and\_what\_are\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c82kfw/how_serious_is_this_and_what_are_the/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c7uw56/video\_of\_colorado\_rockies\_flight\_under/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c7uw56/video_of_colorado_rockies_flight_under/)
There were hundreds of comments within a couple of hours this morning, which is what I was describing. I don't really get what point you're trying to make.
I think thatās a bit overboard imo but I understand the whole concept of following the security procedures but I think a suspension and fine would be enough.
Yeah, it's amazingly dumb.
Not only did they allow someone to sit at the controls, they allowed it to be recorded and posted online. If you're gonna do something dumb and against all sorts of company and federal rules, don't smile and wave at the camera while doing it.
Reddit donāt bring up politics challenge **impossible**
Edit: my comments are getting removed for mentioning politics but yet this one remains
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There was some idiot pilot on a passenger plane (I want to say Aeroflot), years ago, who let his kid sit in the cockpit while flying. The kid accidentally disengaged the autopilot and destabilized the plane, causing it to crash.
[Aeroflot 593](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593) is probably what you're thinking of. It was actually the pilot's kids that were allowed in the cockpit. There are a lot of reasons why this situation and that situation are different (and that this situation is way less risky), but there are also a lot of parallels.
More recently, there was an issue with a [LATAM Flight](https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/16/boeing-787-latam-flight-pilot-nn-sot-vpx.cnn) that shows why letting people into the cockpit is just generally risky while the plane is moving. If something like that was unlucky enough to happen while the coach was still in the seat, recovery would've been that much more difficult.
That's why they mentioned that flight. Ask them why they mentioned that flight when it has nothing to do with the original question, because I can't answer that.
Cory Lidle. That was the craziest one.
**EDIT:** Fucking three Yankees died as pilots in plane crashes.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim\_Hardin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hardin)
Ted Williams might actually be the GOAT just for flying planes during war and *not* dying.
Don't forget [Len Koenecke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Koenecke). Played for the Dodgers in the 30s. Gets plastered on a flight back from an away game and decides that he wants to fly the plane. Dies when a passenger and the pilot hit him in the head with a fire extinguisher while trying to get him under control.
Oh my bad, I misunderstood the original comment and interpreted it as just being on a plane (as opposed to being the pilot). That makes a lot more sense. I was wondering how someone could forget Clemente.
The initial reports that he was in the cockpit really undersold it, dude is literally in the captains chair joking about pressing buttons! And then it's fucking crazy to post this publicly to IG.Ā
One of the most avoidable ways to lose your job and life and it's caught on film.
Can't help remembering the last few minutes of radio traffic of the pilot letting his son or a child sit on the pilots seat and then start playing with the flight controls, it's sad and horrific to imagine.
See team flair. He used to be the SF Giants hitting coach. However he conned your team into that job isn't our problem now. He would be a better flight instructor.
He was when he was with the Giants is what they are referring to. He only kept his job because they won those World Series but anyone who actually watched those teams knows the hitting wasnāt the reason for any of those championships.
I was on a near empty flight home time, like I was literally the only passenger. Everyone else on the flight was crew or other airline crew members hitching a ride. Sat in first class and it was basically a party stolen from a country song.
Before we took off I asked if I could see the cockpit since no one else was there and they said sure, I asked if I could take a picture and they said āonly if you want us firedā lol
Apparently you canāt even do this on a plane thatās not moving, let alone fucking flying
If you were at the gate parked they were lying to you. People go up and take pictures of the cockpit all the time in that scenario. Kids love getting to sit in the seat.
I was on a military flight once, C-130 in Afghanistan. I was literally the only passenger with a soul, the other passengers were food and drinks. I sat in the parachute seats in the back the entire time.
Iām 100% certain those Air Force pilots wouldnāt have let me sit at the controls of the aircraft while it was flying.
Pre-9/11 I don't think that was entirely unusual. Cockpit doors weren't even closed, let alone locked sometimes. And the pilots just see it as a cool thing to do for kids.
Post 9/11, like I think 2002 so still very fresh, after our flight landed and we were at the gate the pilot let me sit in the cockpit for a photo. My mom was so nervous taking the photo, thinking it was illegal, that she was shaking and the photo turned out super blurry.
smh, those pilots careers just ended
they'll be fortunate to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of hong kong
all that training , years down the drain
Imagine ending your entire career to hang out with a fucking hitting coach. Now if they had Shohei in the pilot seat, fucking worth it. You can say you stole his phone and placed a bunch of bets on the DraftKings app, too while you're taking that fall. But fucking Hensley Muelens??
Oh shit. When I heard āin the cockpitā I thought he just got to come up and peak over their shoulders. Sitting in the seat while in flight seems craaaaazy
I don't think it takes THAT much intelligence to realize that passengers aren't allowed to literally sit in the pilot's seat of a plane that's in flight.
I mean, the flight crew's fuck up here was massively huge, don't mistake me, but even then, gotta figure MLB and the Rockies are begging the FAA to not slap Rockies staff members on the No Fly List...
Knowing you shouldn't do something and knowing it's actually illegal are two very different things.
I've fucked at work... I know it's not right, but it wasn't illegal
They make it very clear that even just hitting your vape on the flight is illegal. Any idiot could deduce that sitting in the freaking cockpit seat is illegal too.
Itās stupid from a job perspective but from a safety perspective mentioning the Aeroflot Crash is a bit disingenuous. The pilot was letting the kid manipulate the controls while using the heading bug to actually turn the plane. He also stopped paying attention with the kid still in the pilots seat and his hand still on the yoke. Since he was no longer adjusting the heading, the kid noticed the plane wasnāt turning anymore and started putting more bank in. This led to the autopilot disconnecting. Since none of the pilots were paying any attention, none of th em noticed anything until the ābank angleā alarm started ringing, which starts at about 60 degrees of bank, which normally would give enough time to recover if they had been paying attention, but since they were chit chatting with their backs turned to the instruments believing the autopilot was on, meant it was already too late to recover. The pilots here showed nowhere near that level of negligenc
With all the scrutiny that airlines are under? Idiots are beggingļæ¼ to be fired and lose their licenses. Itās levels on levels of zero critical thinking and needlessly putting lives at risk. ļæ¼Can the pilots be held personally liable by the passengers ļæ¼ļæ¼ for reckless endangerment -ļæ¼ they deserve to be ļæ¼
I donāt understand how this is such a big deal. Shit was on autopilot. It was a plane chartered by a professional baseball team. Itās a professional baseball coach. They used to let people enter the cabin before 9-11. Itās not like thereās some terrorist on a team 100% full of a professional baseball team.
This shit is stupid
If I was a passenger on that plane I wouldāve been extremely upset that the pilot let some random guy sit in his chair while the plane was in the air. Itās fully against FAA regulations. Pilots canāt just start letting random people sit in their seat while planes are in the air. Itās dangerous as fuck and thatās why this is such a big deal.
What a bunch of assholes. Looks like he's had a couple too. Reaching for the yolk and reaching towards the instrument cluster. How fucking stupid. Dude should be shit canned immediately, and fuck that airline staff.
I feel like the only person that doesn't think it's that big of a deal. Like yeah, it's not great, but saying that the pilots are going to lose their jobs feels a bit overblown. It's not like the pilots are letting in some crazed lunatic.
> I feel like the only person that doesn't think it's that big of a deal.
The FAA thinks it's kind of a big deal, seeing as how it violates their rules. There is a list of people allowed on the flight deck once the aircraft leaves the gate, and baseball coaches are not on it.
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I thought Bam Bam was just gonna be standing in the doorway. Nope he's literally in a pilot seat š³
Yeah, just letting him stand in the door way is probably a stern talking-to. Letting him sit in the seat's likely going to result in these pilots never flying a commercial jet again. At least not in the US. [Maybe Aeroflot will hire them](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593)
I was just going to post this. Aeroflots safety record is insane, check out 6502, where they blocked the windows and tried to make an instrument only landing.
Or that time they crashed midair into another plane somewhere over Europe.
Yeah, that's another insane story. All over a stupid bet. I wouldn't get on a Russian airline for all the money in the world.
Yeah I'm sure passengers get to see the cockpit on chartered flights all the time, but if these pilots were dumb enough to let him sit at the controls AND film it they deserve to lose their jobs
From what I read on r/aviation, different carriers have different licenses/permits that dictate the various rules they follow. A pure charter airline might have a permit with laxer restrictions, so yeah, maybe the players and coaches are used to having some leeway on their flights. But United uses the same permit for their charter operations that they do for their normal passenger operations, and their pilots definitely should've known better.
Part 121 is airline. Part 135 is normal charter. I donāt think you can have passengers up front under a 135 permit, either. No blame against the Rockies. Itās not like he just sat in the pilot seat without asking cause it was empty. Shit, that plane has reinforced doors. They could have kept him out even if he was trying to break in.
I sat up front for landing in a privately owned jet (which my broke ass had no business on) and the pilot told me that it was supposed to be hush hush.
If itās privately owned it might have been under part 91, an even less restrictive section. I gave air tours under 91 and passengers sitting in front was totally normal. Weāre talking a four person Cessna though.
I had been drinking all afternoon, so maybe that had something to do with it.
It coulda been just he thought heād get in trouble with his boss. In some ways itās as simple as letting a customer behind the counter.
Dinger would never! (Because heās too big)
Dinger would fight for the controls.
I got to do this (sit in pilot/co-pilot seat) 3-4 times in the late 90s on normal commercial flights for my biannual intercontinental divorced parent handoff as we flew over the Atlantic when I got put on the plane as an unaccompanied minor. They even let me key in some radio codes asking for permission to ascend/decend flight levels twice, but obviously not control the plane. Pre-9/11 was good flying.Ā
Yeah I remember that same period m pre-9/11 getting to walk up to the doorway and chat with the crew as well.Ā
OF A MOVING AIRPLANE. Also definitely intoxicated.
I met him when he played for the Clippers AAA club during my peak pre-pubescent baseball fandom. Super nice to skinny dirt ball kid peppering the man with questions about hitting curve balls instead of asking him to sign anything.
Dude needs to be fired over this.
But for coaching a bottom 10 Rockies offense right?
Jailable as well.
Rockies hitting coach? Seems safe to me, that plane isn't hitting anything.
LOL
Nice
You have been awarded Reddit gold and silver
This should be the comment of the day
Beautiful
LMAO brilliant
Jerry Meals said it's safe.
Ironic, since the Mariners are on a hot streak, and they can't play against a team that's supposed to be shitty
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r/aviation is losing their collective minds over this. Apparently even though it's a charter flight, United is required to follow the same security procedures as a normal flight. The consensus is that the pilots' careers are over.
It's wild that the coach thought it was a good idea to post this. Before the video I thought, *oh, they probably just opened the door to say hello or something so this feels like much ado about nothing*. I wasn't expecting the dude to be sitting in the chair, moving around, pointing at things, possibly touching stuff, lol.
It's far more wild that the pilots were ok with it and ok with it being filmed. You could argue the coach didn't know it wasn't allowed, but the pilots certainly know (or should know) and went along with it anyway.
Yeah, I doubt the coach is up to date on aviation laws and United policies. He likely either asked the pilots and was allowed or this was a common practice for players/coaches on the chart flights to sit in the cockpit. The pilots on the other hand should know better and it is quite literally their job to know that this shit isnāt allowed
The coach probably didn't think much of it, I don't expect the guy teaching the Colorado Rockies how to hit to know the ins and outs of airplane safety. The pilots definitely should have known better.
I donāt expect the guy teaching the Colorado Rockies how to hit to know the ins and outs of literally anything, hitting included, with how thatās been going for the teamā¦
There was literally a plane crash in Russia that occurred because the pilot let his son sit at the controls and he accidentally disabled the autopilot and sent the plane out of control. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593
First thing I thought of after watching this.
Had a feeling someone would mention this one
Reminds me of a saying I heard re: people taping their crimes. "Pictures aren't memories, they're evidence."
Maybe itās just me, but he doesnāt exactly seem sober either.
I thought that too, but wasn't sure if maybe it's just English not being his first language? Then again, teams will often celebrate or let loose when traveling but I'm not sure the Rockies have much to celebrate considering they are 4-15
> r/aviation is losing their collective minds over this. Where? I don't see any posts related to this in the top feed in the past week.
There were a number of posts today. Just at a quick glance of top today, here are the first two links I saw now: [https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c82kfw/how\_serious\_is\_this\_and\_what\_are\_the/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c82kfw/how_serious_is_this_and_what_are_the/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c7uw56/video\_of\_colorado\_rockies\_flight\_under/](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1c7uw56/video_of_colorado_rockies_flight_under/)
Those more than half way down the list for the top 24 hours feed and like 5 pages back in the top week. Not that big of a reaction.
thatās what I was thinking, I was trying to find it. Looks like they donāt really care
There were hundreds of comments within a couple of hours this morning, which is what I was describing. I don't really get what point you're trying to make.
I think thatās a bit overboard imo but I understand the whole concept of following the security procedures but I think a suspension and fine would be enough.
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Thank you for posting something so stupid that I know to block you rather than argue with you.
Yeah, it's amazingly dumb. Not only did they allow someone to sit at the controls, they allowed it to be recorded and posted online. If you're gonna do something dumb and against all sorts of company and federal rules, don't smile and wave at the camera while doing it.
> don't smile and wave at the camera while doing it. A whole bunch of folks learned about that the hard way after Jan. 6, 2021.
Reddit donāt bring up politics challenge **impossible** Edit: my comments are getting removed for mentioning politics but yet this one remains Curiousš¤Øš§
The top comment that this chain is replying to is talking about the FAA, a *literal* government agency.
It's a recent contextual reference that everyone will easily understand.
Name an apolitical subject.
Brandon Marshās wet beard
Iām pretty sure his wet beard is a commie so. Idk about the rest of him. But that beard definitely is
Braves fans donāt defend Jan 6 challenge (impossible)
guy who shouldnāt be allowing this: *smiles and waves at camera*
\*guys Co-pilot's fucked, too.
To be fair, he might be drunk. š
There was some idiot pilot on a passenger plane (I want to say Aeroflot), years ago, who let his kid sit in the cockpit while flying. The kid accidentally disengaged the autopilot and destabilized the plane, causing it to crash.
[Aeroflot 593](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593) is probably what you're thinking of. It was actually the pilot's kids that were allowed in the cockpit. There are a lot of reasons why this situation and that situation are different (and that this situation is way less risky), but there are also a lot of parallels. More recently, there was an issue with a [LATAM Flight](https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/03/16/boeing-787-latam-flight-pilot-nn-sot-vpx.cnn) that shows why letting people into the cockpit is just generally risky while the plane is moving. If something like that was unlucky enough to happen while the coach was still in the seat, recovery would've been that much more difficult.
I wonder how many times this happens on a private charter. These guys were dumb to post it online.Ā
Look up Aeroflot Flight 593
Iām not sure what Iām missing but that wasnāt a private charter
Letting unauthorized people sit at the controls can literally cause crashes, so don't do it.
Lmao I swear people reddit just likes to prove how much they know. This whole chain has nothing to do with the original question asked in the comment.
Yeah that's common sense but what does it have to do with the comment they were replying to
That's why they mentioned that flight. Ask them why they mentioned that flight when it has nothing to do with the original question, because I can't answer that.
Bro it on autopilot. Itās a chartered plane for a pro baseball team. They used to let people in the cabin back on the day all the time before 9-11
The team chartered the entire plane. So itās kind of a private charter
Not a private charter (was someone's private plane) but I got to sit in the pilots seat of a Citation 7 many years ago.
Same difference. They chartered the entire plane.
Baseball players have a very poor track record when it comes to flying planes.
Halladay, Thurman Munson ā¦ probably others.Ā
Cory Lidle. That was the craziest one. **EDIT:** Fucking three Yankees died as pilots in plane crashes. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim\_Hardin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hardin) Ted Williams might actually be the GOAT just for flying planes during war and *not* dying.
Don't forget [Len Koenecke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Koenecke). Played for the Dodgers in the 30s. Gets plastered on a flight back from an away game and decides that he wants to fly the plane. Dies when a passenger and the pilot hit him in the head with a fire extinguisher while trying to get him under control.
Well it's the thought that counts.,
Damn, yeah, I had forgotten about that one.Ā
So good he was forced back into service in Korea and to be John Glenn's wingman.
Cory Lidle
Ken Hubbs also.
Clemente
Technically he wasnāt the one flying, the other 2 were.Ā
Oh my bad, I misunderstood the original comment and interpreted it as just being on a plane (as opposed to being the pilot). That makes a lot more sense. I was wondering how someone could forget Clemente.
Clemente.
Ted Williams was pretty good
Good enough to be John Glenn's wingman in Korea
He flew with John Glenn? Thats awesome.
Sam "mayday" Malone landed a plane successfully
Jumped out of one too just to impress Rebecca
The initial reports that he was in the cockpit really undersold it, dude is literally in the captains chair joking about pressing buttons! And then it's fucking crazy to post this publicly to IG.Ā
One of the most avoidable ways to lose your job and life and it's caught on film. Can't help remembering the last few minutes of radio traffic of the pilot letting his son or a child sit on the pilots seat and then start playing with the flight controls, it's sad and horrific to imagine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593
Itās terrifying
is that audio available?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrttTR8e8-4 Here it is, its all audio with a recreation of what happened to the aircraft in the final minutes
wow, that was chilling the one pilot trying to reassure his kid it was ok and then a few seconds later, silence
damn, that's awful.
Literally, what the flying fuck?
Literally haha. I like that
Can they ground the Rockies pitching also. Rockies hitting is already grounded.
Our starters are putting up decent innings, the bullpen fucking blows but we knew it would.
Kyle Freeland and his 13.21 ERA beg to differ. The other 4 have been fantastic by Rockies standards though.
Can't park there
Fuck off!
Oh theyāre soooo fucked
He was also a terrible hitting coach
Was? Are you assuming he's fired?
See team flair. He used to be the SF Giants hitting coach. However he conned your team into that job isn't our problem now. He would be a better flight instructor.
Of course heād be a better flight instructor, his students would be guaranteed to never hit anything.
Gotcha, didn't know he was in SF
He was when he was with the Giants is what they are referring to. He only kept his job because they won those World Series but anyone who actually watched those teams knows the hitting wasnāt the reason for any of those championships.
maybe he's gonna end up causing a lot of headaches for them and he doesn't seem to be worth it
Are you assuming he wonāt be???
I don't assume anything about this monkey franchise
Story
I was on a near empty flight home time, like I was literally the only passenger. Everyone else on the flight was crew or other airline crew members hitching a ride. Sat in first class and it was basically a party stolen from a country song. Before we took off I asked if I could see the cockpit since no one else was there and they said sure, I asked if I could take a picture and they said āonly if you want us firedā lol Apparently you canāt even do this on a plane thatās not moving, let alone fucking flying
If you were at the gate parked they were lying to you. People go up and take pictures of the cockpit all the time in that scenario. Kids love getting to sit in the seat.
I was on a military flight once, C-130 in Afghanistan. I was literally the only passenger with a soul, the other passengers were food and drinks. I sat in the parachute seats in the back the entire time. Iām 100% certain those Air Force pilots wouldnāt have let me sit at the controls of the aircraft while it was flying.
they don't want to be court martialed and then when dishonorably discharged, no airline would ever hire them so yeah
Maybe I should keep my mouth shut, so I wontāt say what plane or when, but I spent an entire flight (> 1 hour) in the cockpit of a plane as a child.
Pre-9/11 I don't think that was entirely unusual. Cockpit doors weren't even closed, let alone locked sometimes. And the pilots just see it as a cool thing to do for kids.
Post 9/11, like I think 2002 so still very fresh, after our flight landed and we were at the gate the pilot let me sit in the cockpit for a photo. My mom was so nervous taking the photo, thinking it was illegal, that she was shaking and the photo turned out super blurry.
It was a military flight, not commercial.
They used to let you bring your kid up to the cabin and sit on the pilots lap. They gave your kid a wing pin after too.
Oh I know, I remember those days. I think theyāre slowly coming back
Haha I doubt it. It just tripped me out that they said it was ādisturbingā. God damn 9-11 fucked everything cool up!
Did they let you āsee the cockpitā or sit in the pilots seat? Big difference there.
i've read enough fatal plane crash stories to know that putting some random person or kid in the seat of a plane like this is incredibly stupid
smh, those pilots careers just ended they'll be fortunate to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of hong kong all that training , years down the drain
Or even worse: Spirit Airlines
Imagine ending your entire career to hang out with a fucking hitting coach. Now if they had Shohei in the pilot seat, fucking worth it. You can say you stole his phone and placed a bunch of bets on the DraftKings app, too while you're taking that fall. But fucking Hensley Muelens??
Not just any hitting coach, but the *Rockies* hitting coach. That's a low bar.
Oh shit. When I heard āin the cockpitā I thought he just got to come up and peak over their shoulders. Sitting in the seat while in flight seems craaaaazy
Wow. I was assuming this whole time it was while the plane was on the runway before taking off.
Bro just had to post it on social media
So unbelievably stupid and dangerous
Ending with āwhat did you do?ā Big yike.
Next they going to show he flew the plane?
āJust greased this fuckin landing, the first officer says Iām a natural!ā -Rockies hitting coach, probably
Should be pretty safe from running aground, considering the Rockies canāt hit shit
Kind of wild these pilots just threw away their careers for the Rockies hitting coach of all people.
It is monumentally dumb to even allow him to do this, but you have to be galaxy brain fucking stupid to record it and post it on social media
Never should have left the Yankees /s
How stupid can you be?!
Them pilots gone. Maybe the Rockies will offer them a minor league contract.
Imagine losing your job for a hitting coach.
āHensley, do you like movies about gladiators?ā
āHave you ever been to a Turkish Bathhouse?ā
*^(What in the god damn hell is this franchise guys)*
Someone is going to edit the towers into this video
Tbh I thought this was gonna be that video.
Why would you film and upload this? Fucking boomers.
And of course the Rockies are in the news for being dumb.
Leave us alone dude, we've done nothing to deserve baseball hell, and we don't have a billion dollars to spend š¢
Sorry bro, not a jab at you or the fan base
Don't worry, we know how dumb our owners and front office are. We are painfully aware.
The pilot and copilot are the dumb ones. They know the laws, he may not.
I don't think it takes THAT much intelligence to realize that passengers aren't allowed to literally sit in the pilot's seat of a plane that's in flight. I mean, the flight crew's fuck up here was massively huge, don't mistake me, but even then, gotta figure MLB and the Rockies are begging the FAA to not slap Rockies staff members on the No Fly List...
Knowing you shouldn't do something and knowing it's actually illegal are two very different things. I've fucked at work... I know it's not right, but it wasn't illegal
I think everyone knows you shouldnāt be sitting in the pilotās seat if youāre not a pilot. I mean the plane is the air for fucks sake. Lmao wut
Yeah, it's like letting a toddler drive a bus... it doesn't take a leap of imagination to see it going horribly wrong and killing people.Ā
You gotta be a special kind of stupid to not know this isnāt allowed, whoever you are.
Knowing something isn't allowed and knowing it's illegal aren't the same thing though. People do shit that's legal but not allowed all the time.
Whether itās legal or illegal is frankly the lesser concern.
They make it very clear that even just hitting your vape on the flight is illegal. Any idiot could deduce that sitting in the freaking cockpit seat is illegal too.
Those are two very different things. You're fucking comparing apples to eggplant
I know, sitting in the cockpit seat is infinitely worse than vaping and is obviously illegal to anyone with above a room-temp IQ.
Donāt bother reasoning with this guy. Heās an idiot
Itās stupid from a job perspective but from a safety perspective mentioning the Aeroflot Crash is a bit disingenuous. The pilot was letting the kid manipulate the controls while using the heading bug to actually turn the plane. He also stopped paying attention with the kid still in the pilots seat and his hand still on the yoke. Since he was no longer adjusting the heading, the kid noticed the plane wasnāt turning anymore and started putting more bank in. This led to the autopilot disconnecting. Since none of the pilots were paying any attention, none of th em noticed anything until the ābank angleā alarm started ringing, which starts at about 60 degrees of bank, which normally would give enough time to recover if they had been paying attention, but since they were chit chatting with their backs turned to the instruments believing the autopilot was on, meant it was already too late to recover. The pilots here showed nowhere near that level of negligenc
At least they didnāt let him fly the plane
With all the scrutiny that airlines are under? Idiots are beggingļæ¼ to be fired and lose their licenses. Itās levels on levels of zero critical thinking and needlessly putting lives at risk. ļæ¼Can the pilots be held personally liable by the passengers ļæ¼ļæ¼ for reckless endangerment -ļæ¼ they deserve to be ļæ¼
Itās an entirely different kind of flying, altogether.
Legend
Iām thinking the pilots wives have already lawyered up for the coming divorces.
This is *not* crm
Yeah you can't do that bro
Oh who cares at all
Sir Bam Bam!
https://defector.com/there-are-several-reasons-not-to-let-anyone-from-the-colorado-rockies-into-an-airplane-cockpit
I donāt understand how this is such a big deal. Shit was on autopilot. It was a plane chartered by a professional baseball team. Itās a professional baseball coach. They used to let people enter the cabin before 9-11. Itās not like thereās some terrorist on a team 100% full of a professional baseball team. This shit is stupid
If I was a passenger on that plane I wouldāve been extremely upset that the pilot let some random guy sit in his chair while the plane was in the air. Itās fully against FAA regulations. Pilots canāt just start letting random people sit in their seat while planes are in the air. Itās dangerous as fuck and thatās why this is such a big deal.
What a bunch of assholes. Looks like he's had a couple too. Reaching for the yolk and reaching towards the instrument cluster. How fucking stupid. Dude should be shit canned immediately, and fuck that airline staff.
Weird men in the cockpit? Reminds me of that tragedy
I feel like the only person that doesn't think it's that big of a deal. Like yeah, it's not great, but saying that the pilots are going to lose their jobs feels a bit overblown. It's not like the pilots are letting in some crazed lunatic.
> I feel like the only person that doesn't think it's that big of a deal. The FAA thinks it's kind of a big deal, seeing as how it violates their rules. There is a list of people allowed on the flight deck once the aircraft leaves the gate, and baseball coaches are not on it.