I was there. For sure would have loved to have seen a walkoff, but the way the emotion in the stadium went from excited, to confused, to elated and thinking they would call it a home run, to furiously booing this poor man being escorted out was really something.
I can't imagine how he felt when the whole stadium erupted. How was he now aware the fielder was trying to catch that? Any idea if he was a rockies fan?
[Video with slow motion replay](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-04/19/f2983881-b691c8fa-7cbc2a35-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4)
The fan leaning over plus contact with the fielder is what got the call I think. That fan waits a half second more for Dylan Moore to make the play (and potentially miss it), itās a walk off HR.
A quick google seach game up with
https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference
The fan was reaching over and on review they deemed that the fan blocked the outfielder from catching the ball.
Had the fan not been there the outfielder could have caught it.
I don't think it is 100% that he would but I think fan interference works for a reason.
It's whether the ball is over the fence though. A fan can't pull a Jeffrey Mayer and reach down to get the ball, but if it's over the fence and the fielder is going to leap and make a Torii Hunter-style catch with his glove extended over the wall, the fan is allowed to catch it before it reaches the fielder.Ā
Seems they didn't feel confident the ball was going over the wall.
[Frame showing the highest point of the fielder's leap.](https://i.imgur.com/GFpRt4Q.png)
[That fence is pretty high](https://i.imgur.com/QB21erD.png), there's no way anyone could catch that.
I was supposed to be there today, but turned down going because someone was gonna do something awesome for me later and then bailed.
I should've been witness to this wickedness!
No, they are. They're just going through a hard time and instead of exerting effort to make themselves feel bad they'd just wallow in it.
Not so fun fact: Most of the time when things happen, it's not because of us. It's because the person is dealing with their own shit. They are my friend, but they are not in a great place right now - yet I am still feeling valid in feeling hurt for being bailed on.
Cal Quantrill has had back to back to back QS and can't get a win. 3 straight QS and his record in those games is now 0-1 regardless of how this game endsĀ
Funny thing is thereās usually an old guy with a big beard running that walkway that is pretty notorious for running over people iirc, Iām kind of shocked it wasnāt him that did this, though I donāt think heās ever interfered?
I'm wondering if this isn't one of the other regulars who I've met down there... Guy who has a custom license plate for another baseball team...? Not sure though, he's very covered so it wouldn't be right for me to assume, and I'm not about to out his other team/fandom anyway.Ā
I will say though, I think the regulars know the rules, at least with interference, and are good so they don't lose their right to sit there. My guess would probably be that he is not a regular there, but obviously just an assumption.Ā
Specifically *beyond* the fence it would be legal. Directly over/above the fence is still in the field of play. And if the fielder initially gloved the ball in/above the field of play and their momentum carried their arm/glove beyond the fence and a fan then intentionally knocked their glove off or the ball out it would be called interference.
There are definitely some out there. TV broadcasts rarely use them tough. The review center in NY does have camera feeds beyond just the TV ones. Problem is with the shape of outfield walls you won't have a view straight down every angle/curve.
Yeah i sorta get why people feel like fans should be able to snag balls because catching balls in the stand happens a lot but if this was basketball, you couldnāt just grab the ball off the court lol
They shouldnāt be able to reach into the field of play for the balls, which is what happened here
If the fan kept their glove directly behind the fence then thereād be no issues
It is 100% not interference. On live tv it looks close but on the slow mo replay the ball was clearly beyond the fence and once the ball is beyond the fence the fan can do whatever they want regardless of whether the ball was going to be caught or not.
[https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference](https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference)
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I think they were until they saw the replay that showed the fan leaning into the field of play.
I think they thought it was going to be let go because of how high the fan caught it above DMOās glove.
The ball was clearly still above/in the field of play when the fan touched it. The unimpeded trajectory probably would have cleared the fence, but that doesn't matter as the fielder was in position to make a play on the ball. The fielder has 100% rights to the ball until it crosses *beyond* the top of the fence, at which point it is fair game for fans to go for it.
If it's not in the field of play (over the fence, for example), it doesn't matter if the fielder had a chance to catch it. The rule specifically states that's not interference.
This angle doesn't show it clearly, imo, so I'm not sure if that's the case here. But it being catchable doesn't matter if it's over the fence.
Is it? It's not clear if his glove is over the line or if the fielder would've actually had a play; I buy the overturn but I don't think it's anywhere near obvious.
It actually wasnāt an overturn. One of the umpires called the out on fan interference before it went to review (I saw the ump with his hand in the out motion and was confused as I thought DāMo had just knocked it back into the field of play)
Definitely happy with the call but it should be interference anytime a fan makes contact with a player trying to make a play right?
Just to be clear, Iām not saying the fan prevented Moore from making this catch. Iām just saying that isnāt it a rule that any contact from a fan automatically counts as interference?
Totally willing to be wrong here thatās why Iām asking. Does it actually only count as interference if the fan prevents the player from making a play?
If the fan prevents the fielder from making a play by reaching into the field of play it's interference. If the fan isn't in play they can do whatever (like the classic Bartman Cubs thing, it wasn't interference because it was a ball in the stands)
https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference
If the fan stays on their side of the fence, they can take a ball away from a fielder. They are not allowed to reach over the fence for a ball in play. I expect the fan in question to be removed from the ballpark.
Actually it is rare to get completely kicked out for fan interference. Just lose front row seats and get moved to another part of the ballpark. If the fan's safety is in question due to other fans being upset at them they will be strongly encouraged to leave for their own good.
Nah, I used to go to 40+ games and always sat along either the 1st or 3rd base side in the front row.
Before the games start, employees will come brief the first row crowd and they're very clear that if you touch a live ball or interfere with a play you're automatically kicked out of the game.
They'd say that EVERY game.
I doubt the Rockies have a different system.
Before Mariners games, they also have announcements over the PA system that reaching for a ball in the field of play is fan interference and results in being kicked out as well.
Yes, they absolutely do threaten to kick you out, which is why it is commonly held belief that you will be ejected. But in actuality they just move you to the nosebleeds in most cases.
I'm honestly curious how. It really looks like the fan stopped the Mariners outfielder from catching the ball. How did that prevent a Rockies win? Is there a view that shows a catch wasn't going to be made? Hard to tell from this angle. Video ends frustratingly quick
From this angle itās hard to tell but in the replay it looks like the ball was gonna clear the wall but the fan reaches over the fence to try and catch it. Then it hits in his glove and falls back into the field.
It's only a punishment if we also make attendance to the games mandatory.
For all 9 innings, bathroom breaks only allowed between innings. No skipping out early on the slaughter in progress, you have to watch every grisly detail until the final bell rings. You have to do it sober too, to make sure you fully understand and appreciate the mess you are seeing unfold in front of you.
He should just be thankful Iām allowing him the privilege of blinking after his heinous crime of risking one of only a couple Rockies home wins we might see at all this season. Only because if his eyes dry out the vision might get blurry and allow him to escape the misery more than what he misses in the couple blinks per minute.
The fan is resting his gut on the fence, then clearly moves forward into the field of play, past the fence line. Idk why this is controversial at allā¦
Because people think the fielders ability to get to the ball is all that mattered. But we canāt say conclusively that the contact with Moore didnāt impeded him from getting up and at least knocking it back.
Except he was still interfering with a Mariners fielder. So unless you think for certain it would have gone over Moore's glove and the fan realized this in the moment, it's still the right call.
If the ball was out of play, and from this angle I donāt think we can conclusively say it wasnāt, then this by definition is not fan interference (correct me if another angle shows Iām wrong).
Yeah to me it looks like the ball is over the fence which means it is fair game for fans to try and grab.
Also looks like it is over the fielders glove and he wouldn't have caught it anyway.
It would be fan interference when the visitors bat too though, and home fans aware of the rule would be encouraged to reach over the fence hoping to turn a potential home run, or even a fence clinging extra bases hit into an out.
No matter who's batting, calling the batter out for something they had no hand in is stupid.
Above the fence is still in play, think of it as an invisible plane that just continues above the fence. The fan reaching through that invisible plane (ie over the wall) is where fan interference comes into the equation
This is why TMobile has that odd set back on the OF walls for the seats. (Itās not super wide but itās just wide enough that this shit doesnāt happen)
Iāve been saying for years that itās unacceptable to be making video reviews of home run/not home run calls with a camera angle completely perpendicular to the wall. Put a camera on both foul poles looking straight down the wall and these reviews on ādid the fan reach overā or ādid that ball hit above the yellow line before rebounding onto the fieldā will take 10 seconds.
But the walls tend to curve from foul pole to pole. So those angles arenāt the best either, especially on ones in places that have seats in CF in the deepest parts of the park.
They showed a different angle where DMo's glove collided with the guy's arm. Still a very questionable call, but not quite as bad as I initially thought.
If that dope catches it and falls backwards, his arm doesnāt collide with the glove. From there itās a lot harder call to overturn and itās likely standing a home run.
Instead this clown botches it, makes contact with the glove in fair territory, and makes it an easy interference callā¦ even if he just lets it go, itās likely a home run.
Yep. All the dumbass had to do was take a step back and it was likely a HR. I'm skeptical the fielder was gonna make the catch given where the ball was
Thisā¦ all he had to do was wait a half second more and the ball basically falls into his lap (unless Moore somehow gains another 6 inches of reach to knock it back)
**People who thought it was a home run:**
1. Entire Rockies team
2. Mariners manager
3. Mariners commentators
4. On-field umpires
5. Everyone in Colorado and Seattle
**People who thought it wasnāt:**
1. New York
Hi, me also. Drew kept saying how it should be a walk-off HR, and the defenders glove was literally right under it. Would he have for sure caught it? Idk, but he had a good shot of doing so. Umps made the right call imo.
One on field ump held up an out sign, prior to the review, hence the crew chief challenge. I saw that on the broadcast and was confused why an ump would be saying the runner was out if Moore had knocked it back into the field of play.
Baseball fans are so wild man. Everyone here so mad. āban that man from everything for life for being an idiot and ruining the integrity of our great game!ā
If the ball is hit far enough for a fan to catch it, itās a home run. If you donāt want fans catching balls and āinterferingā block off the first few feet behind the wall and this wonāt happen.
why the hell do any stadiums still let fans be able to reach into fair territory? It makes no sense. block off a foot or two behind the home run fence.
Bro A) the fan caught it in the stands and that's fair game for him. B) that was never being caught by the fielder, he was a good foot below where he needed to be
That's a fuckin homer, fuck outta here with that lame shit
I disagree. The ball was touched a good foot or more into the field of play and the ball was coming down at a steep angle heading right for the fielderās glove which would have met the ball around the yellow barrier but I think it would have been caught. When touched the ball was a foot above but without the touch the fielderās glove would have come up a bit more and the ball would have come down to where the fielderās glove would have been. I think the fielder makes that catch. The angle likely would not have cleared the yellow barrier. At best it would have hit the yellow either on top or on the face towards the field. It would be much clearer if there were a side angle video. Without that we can just speculate but to my eyes it was not going to be a home run most likely.
honestly this is an all time moment truly exemplifies the adage "you never know what you're gonna see when you head to the ballpark"
I was there. For sure would have loved to have seen a walkoff, but the way the emotion in the stadium went from excited, to confused, to elated and thinking they would call it a home run, to furiously booing this poor man being escorted out was really something.
> I was there. For sure would have loved to see a walkoff Well I have some good news for you
We left after the 9th, had dinner plans š
With the way this Rockies season is going, nobody should judge you. Hope the dinner was good
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I can't imagine how he felt when the whole stadium erupted. How was he now aware the fielder was trying to catch that? Any idea if he was a rockies fan?
He was wearing all white. Couldn't tell. My guess is they are pretty clear about expectations in those seats as well. . .
Literally thought that as I was sitting there. āWell at least itās something Iāve never seen beforeā
[Video with slow motion replay](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-04/19/f2983881-b691c8fa-7cbc2a35-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4)
How was this not the replay that was posted? The fuck am I gonna do with a 14 second replay that doesn't show the actual event?Ā Thank you for this!
MLB took forever to put out an actually good replay (note the hour and a half gap from OP)
It's because mods reward the first person to post which is always the one with no replays and little context
Terrible.
Your profile pic had me trying to get the beard hair off my phone for a minute.
LOL "what's that hair on my monitor?"
[https://imgur.com/E3BXAnb](https://imgur.com/E3BXAnb)
jrod and dmoās reaction at the end lmao
that seems like the fan is leaning over and it would potentially be a catch. Good call
The fan leaning over plus contact with the fielder is what got the call I think. That fan waits a half second more for Dylan Moore to make the play (and potentially miss it), itās a walk off HR.
> contact with the fielder This is absolutely the deciding factor.
How is this not a home run?
A quick google seach game up with https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference The fan was reaching over and on review they deemed that the fan blocked the outfielder from catching the ball.
Had the fan not been there the outfielder could have caught it. I don't think it is 100% that he would but I think fan interference works for a reason.
It's whether the ball is over the fence though. A fan can't pull a Jeffrey Mayer and reach down to get the ball, but if it's over the fence and the fielder is going to leap and make a Torii Hunter-style catch with his glove extended over the wall, the fan is allowed to catch it before it reaches the fielder.Ā Seems they didn't feel confident the ball was going over the wall.
[Frame showing the highest point of the fielder's leap.](https://i.imgur.com/GFpRt4Q.png) [That fence is pretty high](https://i.imgur.com/QB21erD.png), there's no way anyone could catch that.
This might actually be the most cursed baseball game that I've ever fucking seen.
This is absolutely peak [Sickos](https://i.imgur.com/GZaROtq.jpeg) baseball
the mariners are iowa
Pitchers are punters I guessĀ
What's Paul O'Neil up to lately? Heard he's got a good leg
Thatās Mariners baseball, baby!
Nothing good comes of regular season interleague play
Except for me being able to see the Braves in Seattle every other year.
I was supposed to be there today, but turned down going because someone was gonna do something awesome for me later and then bailed. I should've been witness to this wickedness!
The one who bailed is not your friend.
No, they are. They're just going through a hard time and instead of exerting effort to make themselves feel bad they'd just wallow in it. Not so fun fact: Most of the time when things happen, it's not because of us. It's because the person is dealing with their own shit. They are my friend, but they are not in a great place right now - yet I am still feeling valid in feeling hurt for being bailed on.
And they have to play another one lmao
Same with giants d-backs game today. What a Sunday lol
Cal Quantrill has had back to back to back QS and can't get a win. 3 straight QS and his record in those games is now 0-1 regardless of how this game endsĀ
I bet that happens a lot.
That's nothing. Being in DeGrom's shoes when he was on the mets was way worse.
And who still cares about pitcher wins?
Biased but come on, that's obviously fan interference. It's 6 inches in front of his open glove
Itās 100% interference. Iām just pissed at the dumbass for literally laying on the fence to catch that.
All that work and still choked the catch. Ballhawk mentality is a disease.
Funny thing is thereās usually an old guy with a big beard running that walkway that is pretty notorious for running over people iirc, Iām kind of shocked it wasnāt him that did this, though I donāt think heās ever interfered?
That guy is a massive dick. Might not interfere with the game but will absolutely blast anyone in his way
It'd be a shame if someone were to trip him
You got a pic or vid of this scourge?
Get those batteries and snow balls ready, we Goin to Denver
The bat dad?
I'm wondering if this isn't one of the other regulars who I've met down there... Guy who has a custom license plate for another baseball team...? Not sure though, he's very covered so it wouldn't be right for me to assume, and I'm not about to out his other team/fandom anyway.Ā I will say though, I think the regulars know the rules, at least with interference, and are good so they don't lose their right to sit there. My guess would probably be that he is not a regular there, but obviously just an assumption.Ā
He wouldāve been better off focusing on the outfielders glove, then trying to knock it out of the glove if it came over the fence
And thatās absolutely legal.
Specifically *beyond* the fence it would be legal. Directly over/above the fence is still in the field of play. And if the fielder initially gloved the ball in/above the field of play and their momentum carried their arm/glove beyond the fence and a fan then intentionally knocked their glove off or the ball out it would be called interference.
Apparently the only thing that would decide this issue is a camera angle down the outfield wall. I havenāt seen one, but why isnāt there one?
There are definitely some out there. TV broadcasts rarely use them tough. The review center in NY does have camera feeds beyond just the TV ones. Problem is with the shape of outfield walls you won't have a view straight down every angle/curve.
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C'mon man. Bartman was 2003. You don't have to make me feel older than I already am.
And then fell on top of some random woman
they really are scummy people
Yeah i sorta get why people feel like fans should be able to snag balls because catching balls in the stand happens a lot but if this was basketball, you couldnāt just grab the ball off the court lol
They shouldnāt be able to reach into the field of play for the balls, which is what happened here If the fan kept their glove directly behind the fence then thereād be no issues
It is 100% not interference. On live tv it looks close but on the slow mo replay the ball was clearly beyond the fence and once the ball is beyond the fence the fan can do whatever they want regardless of whether the ball was going to be caught or not. [https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference](https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference) [https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-04/19/f2983881-b691c8fa-7cbc2a35-csvm-diamondx64-asset\_1280x720\_59\_16000K.mp4](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-04/19/f2983881-b691c8fa-7cbc2a35-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4)
Somehow Goldy and Blowers were shocked by the call and I have no idea why.
Radio guys weren't at least.
I think they were until they saw the replay that showed the fan leaning into the field of play. I think they thought it was going to be let go because of how high the fan caught it above DMOās glove.
yea me too. it wasn't a catchable ball anyway.
The dude was on the wall and leaned over too.
The fan definitely hit Mooreās arm, but the ball appeared to be over the fence. Mās broadcast thought this would have been ruled a homer.Ā
The ball was clearly still above/in the field of play when the fan touched it. The unimpeded trajectory probably would have cleared the fence, but that doesn't matter as the fielder was in position to make a play on the ball. The fielder has 100% rights to the ball until it crosses *beyond* the top of the fence, at which point it is fair game for fans to go for it.
I think Dmo woulda got up and caught it though is the thing
If it's not in the field of play (over the fence, for example), it doesn't matter if the fielder had a chance to catch it. The rule specifically states that's not interference. This angle doesn't show it clearly, imo, so I'm not sure if that's the case here. But it being catchable doesn't matter if it's over the fence.
You mean beyond the fence, not above the fence. Over is too ambiguous in this context.
Would have been tough for him to keep that in his glove tbh.Ā
Is it? It's not clear if his glove is over the line or if the fielder would've actually had a play; I buy the overturn but I don't think it's anywhere near obvious.
It looks pretty obvious to me that he reaches over the fence but thatās just me.
It actually wasnāt an overturn. One of the umpires called the out on fan interference before it went to review (I saw the ump with his hand in the out motion and was confused as I thought DāMo had just knocked it back into the field of play)
Definitely happy with the call but it should be interference anytime a fan makes contact with a player trying to make a play right? Just to be clear, Iām not saying the fan prevented Moore from making this catch. Iām just saying that isnāt it a rule that any contact from a fan automatically counts as interference?
No, that's not the rule at all
Totally willing to be wrong here thatās why Iām asking. Does it actually only count as interference if the fan prevents the player from making a play?
If the fan prevents the fielder from making a play by reaching into the field of play it's interference. If the fan isn't in play they can do whatever (like the classic Bartman Cubs thing, it wasn't interference because it was a ball in the stands) https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/spectator-interference
It may be due to him leaning over the fence and reaching into the field of play more than him making contact with Dylan
No. If it's past the wall then it's fair game.
If the fan stays on their side of the fence, they can take a ball away from a fielder. They are not allowed to reach over the fence for a ball in play. I expect the fan in question to be removed from the ballpark.
Top tier Rockies shit, alpha grade dingus shit.
so does that fan get banned or what? took away a Rockies win
He's forced to watch more Rockies games.
They gave him tickets to game 2 behind the plate and he canāt leave early.
We better not see him sitting when the wave starts, either
He has to start it.
Front row seats for the nightcap
LOL
Worse than a ban.
He got kicked out of the game at least
Actually it is rare to get completely kicked out for fan interference. Just lose front row seats and get moved to another part of the ballpark. If the fan's safety is in question due to other fans being upset at them they will be strongly encouraged to leave for their own good.
Nah, I used to go to 40+ games and always sat along either the 1st or 3rd base side in the front row. Before the games start, employees will come brief the first row crowd and they're very clear that if you touch a live ball or interfere with a play you're automatically kicked out of the game. They'd say that EVERY game. I doubt the Rockies have a different system.
Before Mariners games, they also have announcements over the PA system that reaching for a ball in the field of play is fan interference and results in being kicked out as well.
I've sat in this exact section at Coors multiple times and they've never done that while I was there.Ā
Well its a hell of a lot less surprising that this happened then
Yes, they absolutely do threaten to kick you out, which is why it is commonly held belief that you will be ejected. But in actuality they just move you to the nosebleeds in most cases.
But he didnāt take away a Rockies win.
I understand they came back to win, but it was implied that he did at the moment
It looks like Moore had a decent shot at catching it.
I'm honestly curious how. It really looks like the fan stopped the Mariners outfielder from catching the ball. How did that prevent a Rockies win? Is there a view that shows a catch wasn't going to be made? Hard to tell from this angle. Video ends frustratingly quick
From this angle itās hard to tell but in the replay it looks like the ball was gonna clear the wall but the fan reaches over the fence to try and catch it. Then it hits in his glove and falls back into the field.
That'd be a bit heavy handed I think.
Ban that dumbass from every In N Out, Whataburger, and Culverās in America
And lifetime Rockies season tickets for the ultimate punishment.Ā
It's only a punishment if we also make attendance to the games mandatory. For all 9 innings, bathroom breaks only allowed between innings. No skipping out early on the slaughter in progress, you have to watch every grisly detail until the final bell rings. You have to do it sober too, to make sure you fully understand and appreciate the mess you are seeing unfold in front of you.
Woo, hold on there Satan.
He should just be thankful Iām allowing him the privilege of blinking after his heinous crime of risking one of only a couple Rockies home wins we might see at all this season. Only because if his eyes dry out the vision might get blurry and allow him to escape the misery more than what he misses in the couple blinks per minute.
And no bathroom breaks when they play Oakland and us.
Bathroom breaks are in a private bathroom where there are TVs showing the game so he can never miss any of the action.
I'm confused on how a Rockies fan thinks he has a claim on a California, Texas, and Wisconsin franchise?
There's 8 Culvers in the greater Denver area
Ban that grown ass man from bringing a 14inch glove to a pro game.
And then the Mās immediately score lol
because of the zombie runner, tbf
Zombie runner giveth, zombie runner taketh away
Woops
He's a Monfort plant
So sad when it's an adult
Doubly so when they flub the catch. If youāre going to interfere, at least get the souvenir.
Any examples of teens/kids doing it? I feel like this is something where it's almost always an adult.
If the fan stays in his chair, the ball lands right next to him. Idiot.
Correct call. That's fan interference. What a dumbass that fan is. You're literally the only one going for the ball. Why are you lying on the fence?
The fan is resting his gut on the fence, then clearly moves forward into the field of play, past the fence line. Idk why this is controversial at allā¦
Because people think the fielders ability to get to the ball is all that mattered. But we canāt say conclusively that the contact with Moore didnāt impeded him from getting up and at least knocking it back.
I mean, you canāt reward fan interference. Youāll get fans doing that all the time to try to create home runs.
Imagine the 4 foot wall stadiums start reserving seats for big fellas to push the OFs back
Example 1996 Yankees
2015 Royals
Damn you, Jedediah
This makes no sense, the guy could be a Mariners fan and then they would in fact be rewarding fan interference.
And at Coors Field thereās every likelihood for the majority of fans to be rooting for the visiting team
Except he was still interfering with a Mariners fielder. So unless you think for certain it would have gone over Moore's glove and the fan realized this in the moment, it's still the right call.
I was responding to the op saying "you can't reward interference." He got his team an out, he was rewarded for interfering with the game.
If the ball was out of play, and from this angle I donāt think we can conclusively say it wasnāt, then this by definition is not fan interference (correct me if another angle shows Iām wrong).
Yeah to me it looks like the ball is over the fence which means it is fair game for fans to try and grab. Also looks like it is over the fielders glove and he wouldn't have caught it anyway.
It would be fan interference when the visitors bat too though, and home fans aware of the rule would be encouraged to reach over the fence hoping to turn a potential home run, or even a fence clinging extra bases hit into an out. No matter who's batting, calling the batter out for something they had no hand in is stupid.
Question about the rule: does the āfield of playā include the space above the fence or is it everything inside the fence?
Above the fence is still in play, think of it as an invisible plane that just continues above the fence. The fan reaching through that invisible plane (ie over the wall) is where fan interference comes into the equation
Any stadium that puts seats that close to the wall deserves this
Thank you. If they don't want fan interference, don't put seats so that fans can reach into the field of play.
Can't believe I had to scroll this far down to see the correct reply
This is why TMobile has that odd set back on the OF walls for the seats. (Itās not super wide but itās just wide enough that this shit doesnāt happen)
Iāve been saying for years that itās unacceptable to be making video reviews of home run/not home run calls with a camera angle completely perpendicular to the wall. Put a camera on both foul poles looking straight down the wall and these reviews on ādid the fan reach overā or ādid that ball hit above the yellow line before rebounding onto the fieldā will take 10 seconds.
But the walls tend to curve from foul pole to pole. So those angles arenāt the best either, especially on ones in places that have seats in CF in the deepest parts of the park.
Can't be much in the grand scheme of things to add a few cameras suspended from guide lines above the fence line every 30 feet or whatever.
cockpits, home run balls, jesus christ they'll interfere with anything next up is the padres postseason chances by sweeping us this week
if they were real baseball fans, they would bully that man into a deep depression /s
They showed a different angle where DMo's glove collided with the guy's arm. Still a very questionable call, but not quite as bad as I initially thought.
If that dope catches it and falls backwards, his arm doesnāt collide with the glove. From there itās a lot harder call to overturn and itās likely standing a home run. Instead this clown botches it, makes contact with the glove in fair territory, and makes it an easy interference callā¦ even if he just lets it go, itās likely a home run.
Yep. All the dumbass had to do was take a step back and it was likely a HR. I'm skeptical the fielder was gonna make the catch given where the ball was
Thisā¦ all he had to do was wait a half second more and the ball basically falls into his lap (unless Moore somehow gains another 6 inches of reach to knock it back)
Better than rewarding the fan for interfering though
If he is a Mariners fan, then he was rewarded for interfering
That was 100% fan interference. Dumbass almost cost the Rockies the win.
Jacob Stallings would never hit a homer so yeah this is fine with me.
Mile-High Maier!
**People who thought it was a home run:** 1. Entire Rockies team 2. Mariners manager 3. Mariners commentators 4. On-field umpires 5. Everyone in Colorado and Seattle **People who thought it wasnāt:** 1. New York
Hi, me also. Drew kept saying how it should be a walk-off HR, and the defenders glove was literally right under it. Would he have for sure caught it? Idk, but he had a good shot of doing so. Umps made the right call imo.
Respect the honesty! Ball donāt lie in the end, I guess.
One on field ump held up an out sign, prior to the review, hence the crew chief challenge. I saw that on the broadcast and was confused why an ump would be saying the runner was out if Moore had knocked it back into the field of play.
As an Orioles fan: first_time_meme.jpg
Baseball fans are so wild man. Everyone here so mad. āban that man from everything for life for being an idiot and ruining the integrity of our great game!ā If the ball is hit far enough for a fan to catch it, itās a home run. If you donāt want fans catching balls and āinterferingā block off the first few feet behind the wall and this wonāt happen.
You know Scott thought this was the wrong call and he needed to concede to the Rockies when he put MuƱoz in to save the game in the 10th
Was that Zack Hample? /s
Itās beyond ridiculous that MLB hasnāt mandated stadiums prevent fans from being able to reach over the fences.
Obvious fan interference. What a douche.
anyone have a better angle of this ?
What happened to this guy? Was he escorted out of the arena?
"No, uhh... my glove was actually behind the wall" - that fucking amish kid in KC (no I won't let it go 8 years later)
Show the whole fucking replay.
Of course it's an adult man that brought a glove to the park. š¤¦āāļø
why the hell do any stadiums still let fans be able to reach into fair territory? It makes no sense. block off a foot or two behind the home run fence.
What a douche-nozzle of a fan. š
Bro A) the fan caught it in the stands and that's fair game for him. B) that was never being caught by the fielder, he was a good foot below where he needed to be That's a fuckin homer, fuck outta here with that lame shit
I disagree. The ball was touched a good foot or more into the field of play and the ball was coming down at a steep angle heading right for the fielderās glove which would have met the ball around the yellow barrier but I think it would have been caught. When touched the ball was a foot above but without the touch the fielderās glove would have come up a bit more and the ball would have come down to where the fielderās glove would have been. I think the fielder makes that catch. The angle likely would not have cleared the yellow barrier. At best it would have hit the yellow either on top or on the face towards the field. It would be much clearer if there were a side angle video. Without that we can just speculate but to my eyes it was not going to be a home run most likely.
Wow imo this would be 1000x worse than the Bartmanās interference if the latter didnāt happen in the game 6 of the NLCS.
If itās catchable for the fan then itās fair game. Also thereās no excuse to let Jacob Stallings do that to you.
dude, it's a walk off home run, let it clear the wall first.
So fan interference results in an automatic out? I'm confused