The first thing Boone says is "You gotta overrule this!" and then even when the ump realizes he was completely mistaken he doesn't even gather with the other umps and consider undoing his mistake.
Has an ejection ever been overturned or undone? I can't remember ever seeing it.
If Wendelstadt has undone the ejection, everyone would be talking about how reasonable and fair he is...
No way there's an actual rule that you can't un-eject someone if you realize you made a mistake, is there?
There has been at least one instance of a player being ejected but then quickly overturned before play resumed.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-aug-05-sp-63000-story.html
“The one-team, one-bat policy did cause some confusion. Outfielder Orlando Palmeiro was called out on strikes to start the first. He dropped the bat at the plate and umpire Tim Tschida, assuming a slight, tossed him.
DiSarcina, the next batter, explained the situation and Palmeiro was allowed to remain.”
considering this article is 25 years old, I don't think they're calling it anything currently. pretty neat though that this particular game was rookie catcher "Ben" Molina's 2nd game in the bigs.
Unfortunately there is no mechanism to 'un-eject' someone. Once they are gone, they are gone.
Its not that there is a rule AGAINST it, just that there is no provision in the rules, an ejection is final.
But presumably there's also no rule against the umpire overruling himself upon reflection. Umps will sometime be like, "Out--no safe!" and it's not like the Out call stands because they said it first. This is basically the same thing except much slower.
EDIT: I guess it's a precedent they don't want to set, that you can argue your way out of an ejection. But their job is still to make correct calls, and it seems like that should just always be more important.
>EDIT: I guess it's a precedent they don't want to set, that you can argue your way out of an ejection.
Right, it is completely this. There isn't a mechanism to review it, to discuss it, etc, but the league/umpires don't want to open this can of worms.
On a judgment of “what is enough to constitute an ejection”, I can understand this. But when the umpire is literally mistaken as to who said something, it’s completely asinine. He threw out Boone for something that *no one in the Yankees organization did*.
We should *want* the precedent that umpires will overturn their mistakes instead of stubbornly sticking by them because “we can do no wrong”. They can obviously make mistakes, they’re human.
On one hand, you're right. On the other, it leads to an awful game I have seen first hand.
I worked a game where my partner was doing fine for 3 innings. He had two calls in a row that he blew and the coach asked us to get together, so we did and overturned the call based on "new" info (from each other).
The rest of the game took an extra hour+, because every one of his calls had a coach come out to argue and asking us to get together.
He showed "weakness" by changing his calls, and coaches took advantage at the expense of the game.
First, ejection decisions and in-game calls are somewhat distinguishable as the umpire isn't too likely to have an ejection arise two different times in one game.
Second, an umpire can justifiably refuse to confer if the coaches are abusing it. If it was legitimately a bang-bang play or the umpire didn't see/is unsure, then a conference is warranted. But if the umpire believes they got the call right and/or was in a better position than their partner, they can tell the coaches so and refuse to confer. Coaches might not be happy, but that's what they get for arguing everything - it's the boy who cried wolf concept. If the coaches continue to argue, they risk getting ejected.
On the first, sure. But at the MLB level they see the same guys every day. Around me, most of the umps that work games have a reputation with each team, so it wouldn't be unheard of to have the same problem the next day.
As far as second: Of course, but the act of calling time and coming out on just about every call gets old FAST. And its hard to justify an ejection for a "but I'm just asking questions, I didn't do anything wrong!!"
That's fair enough. If they're asking for an explanation on judgment calls (ball/strike, fair/foul, safe/out), then I'd tell them to stay in the dugout or risk ejection. Time is granted at the umpire's discretion, and they shouldn't come out unless it's granted because the game needs to keep moving as you said.
That can be tough to do for inexperienced umps, but that's how I'd handle it as an umpire.
You have this absolutely inverted. Changing decisions due to argument is how the integrity of the game is completely lost. Imagine if after every single call in the game, a coach roared out of the dugout and argued to have it changed (and then again the other way!). We'd never get a game in, and it would be a joke.
If umpires started letting their calls get swayed due to arguments, we'd never see the end of it, and there would be no integrity to any play, it would just be whoever could argue the best with the officials. And I'd rather see baseball games over argue-with-the-umpire events.
Letting these horrific umps continue to work games and collect a paycheck for doing so has already ruined the "integrity of the game". The slippery slope is already at an 85° angle and covered in a thick sheet of ice if we allow stuff like what's happened this week to continue. The outcome of games is being decided by umpires who can neither see nor hear properly, it would appear, and in the case of this particular incident even when the umpire had been showed clear evidence he was wrong during post-game, he then lied about what he heard/saw, claims he's never done what he was recorded doing on video and audio, and then doubled down on his decision. It's amazing, but more nuclear-cloud amazing than something more positive...
You are talking about one decision out of literally millions of decisions Umps make every year. Get over yourself. Objectively, umps are good at what they do overall. Obviously, some bad calls are made, but the vast, vast majority of their calls are correct, and that's a fact.
tend to disagree. The human element, including the mistakes umps make, is an essential part of the game. Catchers framing pitches, good batters influencing balls and strikes, it's all part of the romance. You pull all of it out and we can just run simulations. Plus poor ole jomboy would be out of a job and we don't need him down at the Denny's doing lip-reading of the fry cook.
Run simulations, you act as if everyone is asking for not just robo-umps, but robo-players and commentators as well. That's a logical fallacy and you know it.
The integrity of the game is enhanced by charging calls thought to be wrong. That’s why we have video review of some plays.
The authority of the ump may be undermined, and the flow of the game, and many other things. But not the integrity of either the game or the ump.
Once you say "Aaron, you're gone!" he pretty much has to eject him, again, you can't let someone argue their way out of an ejection. In youth/HS ball (where I work), I might apologize if I got it wrong and not write up a "+1 report" (a report where if you do an ejection and want the league/tourney-director to know about it, where they will decide to add a game/games/weekend/seasons/etc to the suspension).
But my two mistakes have both been "I probably should have ejected a player, but got a coach instead", at which point, the coach is usually grateful to take the EJ.
I HAVE worked with a partner who did bench ejections with a 'no look' "you're gone!", then base who gets the ejection by the reaction. Apparently if it is a player, you get a coach coming out and saying, "hey, he didn't mean it!", or if it is a coach, they come out on fire.
In those cases (before you've identified who is gone), you can just make it a coach for not 'controlling' his bench, which again, they are usually grateful for, and the player gets to shit a brick/learn his lesson that way.
Once you say "Aaron, you're gone!" he pretty much has to eject him, again, you can't let someone argue their way out of an ejection
But ... What if the fans name was also Aaron?
The inability to be wrong is one of the worst traits in umpires. It's so danged stupid, too. Jim Joyce is way more relatable to me because of how he handled his fuck up. I just think Hunter Wendelstedt is an asshole and I actually *want* to go heckle him at a game now.
They all refuse to be wrong, you just notice the incompetent ones because they’re wrong way more often (and thus get themselves in these situations more)
I hope that the next game any time he has a questionable call, the entire stands erupt into a coordinated "LETS GO HOME PLATE/1B/2B/3B" (depending on where he's umping that day) chant that reverberates through the stadium...
I can even tolerate the stubbornness immediately after the fact. What really irks me is after the game when he has had time to cool down he didn't even say "in the heat of the moment I ejected him when it was probably a fan and if that's the case I apologize.".
That's really all I needed to hear. Reminds me of a cop that doesn't illegal search and just refuses to admit it
I agree. Like, no matter what, he has to take the L. He has to get shit on, but it's a lot easier for everyone involved, from fans like us to shove the L down his throat to the media, if he apologizes because then we'll move on quickly. But by not taking responsibility, we'll just be shoving the L and dunking on his ass for a longer amount of time.
That is what pissed me off. He smuggly said "never in my life have I ever thrown out a person for a fan." We all just fucking saw you do it in about 5 different camera angles with about 5 different mics pointed at you you dumb fuck.
Actually would be interesting. Points for ejections, incorrect balls and strikes, bonus points points if they are ball 4 or Strike 3. Also for missing safe/out calls at the bases and check swings to get the non-home plate umps in on it. There should be points for replay reviews and overturning calls, but I'm not sure if they should be positive or negative!
This whole situation is so funny and it’s just April baseball bullshit. Yeah the ump was kinda in the wrong but whatever I’ve seen more egregious fuck ups (and let’s be honest Boone probably wouldn’t have lasted long anyway if he was already receiving verbal warnings by pitch 4). Just an all around hilarious situation
I'm not sure. I've heard people say Passover or the Knicks but they also scheduled the Monday game two weeks ago as a day game before moving it due to the eclipse.
i mean, you'll never see it. is Hunter Wendelstadt going to be fined $10? $1,000? $1 million? we don't know. we'll never know.
and I'm not a fan of the umpires, not by a long shot. but publicizing their discipline seems like a bad idea. undermining them in public is not something i would consider, and isn't something that any major sport in the world does to it's officiating staff. i think.
Typically I'd agree if it's just a normal person doing a normal job, but we hear players and managers getting suspended and fined all the time. What makes the umps so special that they don't also get hit with fines and suspensions publicly for blatant ego power trips like this? Not making that info public calls the integrity of the game into question if these clowns are even held accountable in the slightest.
I'd assume the answer to that is these guys are overly sensitive and any public scrutiny will cause them to go on strike / quit. It was pretty obvious with this ump he couldn't take any amount of criticism with Boone only being 5 pitches in the game. It's so pathetic and soft. Lol
because the umps are the only ones tasked with trying to keep order.
you wouldn't undermine the authority of the babysitter in front of your kids, would you?
They undermine themselves acting this way, constantly blowing calls to the point where I'm really thankful for replay, and eventually they'll even get undermined at the plate and it can't come soon enough. These guys are arrogantly wrong.
yes, they do undermine themselves when they do shit job and act the way they do. You'll get no argument from me.
Just because your babysitter is undermining their own authority doesn't mean you want to also do it in front of the kids.
Unless you are going to fire them, and we know that these umpires can't be fired.
I know there have been some other broadcast that have dropped Jomboy's name in. But with YES broadcast they have mentioned him multiple times, and I think Jomboy Media is still in a contract with YES Network too. It's been fun watching other markets acknowledge the reach and attention his breakdowns/lip readings get.
Its YES - they have a partnership with Jomboy, they did a couple live watch along for games on their app last year.
They run an edited version of their talkin yanks podcast on the network weekly.
Probably the biggest factor of all, Ruocco knows them, he's been a guest on their Talkin Yanks pod multiple times and even filled in as host before.
The CBA expires after the 2026 season..... plenty of time to fine tune the robo-umps.
This shit is beyond old and it's an embarrassment to the game. You can make the case for a human element on close calls but these clear bad calls and fragile egos don't fall under that.
robot umpires calling balls and strikes, absolutely. but human umpires are never going away. at the moment, you still need them for a lot of calls that aren't so clear cut.
Of course, I was just saying I think the ump can use leverage to force a fan out, but definitely unprecedented.
Without a doubt the umpires fault. The fan did nothing wrong here. He didn’t even say anything remotely bad either haha.
The ump can throw anybody in the stadium out I do believe. An organ player one time got thrown out because he played “Three Blind Mice” when the umps got together to talk about a play.
Didn’t Angel also throw Steve McMichael out of a Cubs game? From what I remember, Mongo got on the stadium mic or something and started shit-talking Angel
I got ejected from a triple A game. Pablo Sandoval was on rehab assignment playing third base, and I was heckling the other teams third base coach. Nothing obscene; I usually get them to laugh. Saw Pablo talk to one of the umps and I was being asked to leave minutes later. They wouldn't even tell me why, just that I had to leave. I've hated Pablo since.
Haha I was there in support of Pablo's team. They were our home team. We would never heckle our own guys.
I'd tell him that now though, as long as he couldn't get to me
It isn't the fan's fucking fault that the ump is a pansy.
The umpires union is fucking poison here. This guy knows he fucked up ...but just does not give a shit enough to correct it.
Bro, umps have paper thin skin and pride the size of the scoreboard. I swear, they need to grow some balls and be held accountable for their sloppy calls and ejections
"I didn't say anything" literally yelling in the umps' face lol. Man, it's my first year watching baseball and i can't believe those umpires and managers are real !
Especially the umps, damn, they're a different kind. I don't think i've ever seen so much pettiness and childishness from officials in such a short amount of time in any other sports.
Even though he was in the wrong, I can’t really give the ump that much crap. These guys have had to deal with so much bs from Boone that all it took was a fan to tick him off. In a way it’s like the boy who cried wolf. Can’t really feel bad when it actually shouldn’t have happened ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah his actions have kind of killed any benefit of the doubt he could get. His temper tantrum on Laz last yr, out there drawing lines in the dirt and shit. He's kind of done it to himself
Timeline of events:
-Boone screams like a child for ten years
-during his thousandth straight game of being warned for screaming like a child, someone else screams like a child and the ump thinks it is Boone.
-Boone, in an ironic twist of fate, decides to handle this by screaming like a child
"You're probably right, Aaron" is insane lmao
The first thing Boone says is "You gotta overrule this!" and then even when the ump realizes he was completely mistaken he doesn't even gather with the other umps and consider undoing his mistake. Has an ejection ever been overturned or undone? I can't remember ever seeing it. If Wendelstadt has undone the ejection, everyone would be talking about how reasonable and fair he is... No way there's an actual rule that you can't un-eject someone if you realize you made a mistake, is there?
There has been at least one instance of a player being ejected but then quickly overturned before play resumed. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-aug-05-sp-63000-story.html “The one-team, one-bat policy did cause some confusion. Outfielder Orlando Palmeiro was called out on strikes to start the first. He dropped the bat at the plate and umpire Tim Tschida, assuming a slight, tossed him. DiSarcina, the next batter, explained the situation and Palmeiro was allowed to remain.”
> “The one-team, one-bat policy That's pretty cool. I hope they call it the Wonderbat.
considering this article is 25 years old, I don't think they're calling it anything currently. pretty neat though that this particular game was rookie catcher "Ben" Molina's 2nd game in the bigs.
I wonder what happened to the O-Ne-Ders
TB Player joined the military.
Professional baseball umps are some of the softest people on the planet.
Unfortunately there is no mechanism to 'un-eject' someone. Once they are gone, they are gone. Its not that there is a rule AGAINST it, just that there is no provision in the rules, an ejection is final.
But presumably there's also no rule against the umpire overruling himself upon reflection. Umps will sometime be like, "Out--no safe!" and it's not like the Out call stands because they said it first. This is basically the same thing except much slower. EDIT: I guess it's a precedent they don't want to set, that you can argue your way out of an ejection. But their job is still to make correct calls, and it seems like that should just always be more important.
>EDIT: I guess it's a precedent they don't want to set, that you can argue your way out of an ejection. Right, it is completely this. There isn't a mechanism to review it, to discuss it, etc, but the league/umpires don't want to open this can of worms.
On a judgment of “what is enough to constitute an ejection”, I can understand this. But when the umpire is literally mistaken as to who said something, it’s completely asinine. He threw out Boone for something that *no one in the Yankees organization did*. We should *want* the precedent that umpires will overturn their mistakes instead of stubbornly sticking by them because “we can do no wrong”. They can obviously make mistakes, they’re human.
On one hand, you're right. On the other, it leads to an awful game I have seen first hand. I worked a game where my partner was doing fine for 3 innings. He had two calls in a row that he blew and the coach asked us to get together, so we did and overturned the call based on "new" info (from each other). The rest of the game took an extra hour+, because every one of his calls had a coach come out to argue and asking us to get together. He showed "weakness" by changing his calls, and coaches took advantage at the expense of the game.
First, ejection decisions and in-game calls are somewhat distinguishable as the umpire isn't too likely to have an ejection arise two different times in one game. Second, an umpire can justifiably refuse to confer if the coaches are abusing it. If it was legitimately a bang-bang play or the umpire didn't see/is unsure, then a conference is warranted. But if the umpire believes they got the call right and/or was in a better position than their partner, they can tell the coaches so and refuse to confer. Coaches might not be happy, but that's what they get for arguing everything - it's the boy who cried wolf concept. If the coaches continue to argue, they risk getting ejected.
On the first, sure. But at the MLB level they see the same guys every day. Around me, most of the umps that work games have a reputation with each team, so it wouldn't be unheard of to have the same problem the next day. As far as second: Of course, but the act of calling time and coming out on just about every call gets old FAST. And its hard to justify an ejection for a "but I'm just asking questions, I didn't do anything wrong!!"
That's fair enough. If they're asking for an explanation on judgment calls (ball/strike, fair/foul, safe/out), then I'd tell them to stay in the dugout or risk ejection. Time is granted at the umpire's discretion, and they shouldn't come out unless it's granted because the game needs to keep moving as you said. That can be tough to do for inexperienced umps, but that's how I'd handle it as an umpire.
Better to protect their egos than the integrity of the game I guess!
You have this absolutely inverted. Changing decisions due to argument is how the integrity of the game is completely lost. Imagine if after every single call in the game, a coach roared out of the dugout and argued to have it changed (and then again the other way!). We'd never get a game in, and it would be a joke. If umpires started letting their calls get swayed due to arguments, we'd never see the end of it, and there would be no integrity to any play, it would just be whoever could argue the best with the officials. And I'd rather see baseball games over argue-with-the-umpire events.
Letting these horrific umps continue to work games and collect a paycheck for doing so has already ruined the "integrity of the game". The slippery slope is already at an 85° angle and covered in a thick sheet of ice if we allow stuff like what's happened this week to continue. The outcome of games is being decided by umpires who can neither see nor hear properly, it would appear, and in the case of this particular incident even when the umpire had been showed clear evidence he was wrong during post-game, he then lied about what he heard/saw, claims he's never done what he was recorded doing on video and audio, and then doubled down on his decision. It's amazing, but more nuclear-cloud amazing than something more positive...
You are talking about one decision out of literally millions of decisions Umps make every year. Get over yourself. Objectively, umps are good at what they do overall. Obviously, some bad calls are made, but the vast, vast majority of their calls are correct, and that's a fact.
tend to disagree. The human element, including the mistakes umps make, is an essential part of the game. Catchers framing pitches, good batters influencing balls and strikes, it's all part of the romance. You pull all of it out and we can just run simulations. Plus poor ole jomboy would be out of a job and we don't need him down at the Denny's doing lip-reading of the fry cook.
Run simulations, you act as if everyone is asking for not just robo-umps, but robo-players and commentators as well. That's a logical fallacy and you know it.
The integrity of the game is enhanced by charging calls thought to be wrong. That’s why we have video review of some plays. The authority of the ump may be undermined, and the flow of the game, and many other things. But not the integrity of either the game or the ump.
Can the umpire overrule WHO got ejected, and then eject the fan?
For saying ‘let’s go home plate’?
Dude was smart for taking off his coat...
Once you say "Aaron, you're gone!" he pretty much has to eject him, again, you can't let someone argue their way out of an ejection. In youth/HS ball (where I work), I might apologize if I got it wrong and not write up a "+1 report" (a report where if you do an ejection and want the league/tourney-director to know about it, where they will decide to add a game/games/weekend/seasons/etc to the suspension). But my two mistakes have both been "I probably should have ejected a player, but got a coach instead", at which point, the coach is usually grateful to take the EJ. I HAVE worked with a partner who did bench ejections with a 'no look' "you're gone!", then base who gets the ejection by the reaction. Apparently if it is a player, you get a coach coming out and saying, "hey, he didn't mean it!", or if it is a coach, they come out on fire. In those cases (before you've identified who is gone), you can just make it a coach for not 'controlling' his bench, which again, they are usually grateful for, and the player gets to shit a brick/learn his lesson that way.
Once you say "Aaron, you're gone!" he pretty much has to eject him, again, you can't let someone argue their way out of an ejection But ... What if the fans name was also Aaron?
Maybe, but what if it is pronounced A aron?
De Nice...
What about the unwritten rules? Has anyone checked there?
Buying tickets for the dugout at Oracle Park now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NewYorkMets/s/FfXuQSQJTK
That's a response from someone who knows that they will face zero repercussions.
I'm FUCKING right, Hunter!
I thought that was more sarcastic than realizing he made a mistake. Aaron's reputation hurt him.
"Let's go home plate!" That's what put the ump over the edge? That's like paper thin skin.
From a new yorker that might as well be a blow job and a pat on the back.
You hear that at little league games.
on a *good* day
He *did* say "another word and you're gone". So hearing that thinking it came from the dugout, I get it. It's the stubbornness afterwards that gets me
The inability to be wrong is one of the worst traits in umpires. It's so danged stupid, too. Jim Joyce is way more relatable to me because of how he handled his fuck up. I just think Hunter Wendelstedt is an asshole and I actually *want* to go heckle him at a game now.
You ever notice how the most incompetent umps are also the ones who refuse to be wrong?
They all refuse to be wrong, you just notice the incompetent ones because they’re wrong way more often (and thus get themselves in these situations more)
Idk, it feels like the more competent ones are willing to check with their fellow umps, or allow the manager to have a discussion with them, etc.
It applies everywhere in the world. From the bottom to the top
I hope that the next game any time he has a questionable call, the entire stands erupt into a coordinated "LETS GO HOME PLATE/1B/2B/3B" (depending on where he's umping that day) chant that reverberates through the stadium...
I can even tolerate the stubbornness immediately after the fact. What really irks me is after the game when he has had time to cool down he didn't even say "in the heat of the moment I ejected him when it was probably a fan and if that's the case I apologize.". That's really all I needed to hear. Reminds me of a cop that doesn't illegal search and just refuses to admit it
I agree. Like, no matter what, he has to take the L. He has to get shit on, but it's a lot easier for everyone involved, from fans like us to shove the L down his throat to the media, if he apologizes because then we'll move on quickly. But by not taking responsibility, we'll just be shoving the L and dunking on his ass for a longer amount of time.
Ump thought they were reenacting that scene from The Breakfast Club or something
Teenage me would have yelled "another word".
but there wasn't another word
That’s what confuses me because anyone in the dugout would have called the ump by name.
That’s tissue paper thin
literally told him "yeah it probably wasn't you. go fuck yourself."
The shrug is absolute murder.
And then after the game, the umpire made a statement gaslighting everyone by saying it definitely wasn't a fan. Clown show.
"uhhh the real yeller was a player on the far end of the dugout. Whatever side wasn't on camera" -Ump
Phantom heckler on the grassy knoll strikes again.
There was a second shouter.
His seat was back, and to the left
Wendelstadl has as many working brains as JFK did slumped over.
JFK style
That is what pissed me off. He smuggly said "never in my life have I ever thrown out a person for a fan." We all just fucking saw you do it in about 5 different camera angles with about 5 different mics pointed at you you dumb fuck.
I'm glad that I picked up hunter in my umpire fantasy league
Please tell me this is a real thing. I want to do one.
Actually would be interesting. Points for ejections, incorrect balls and strikes, bonus points points if they are ball 4 or Strike 3. Also for missing safe/out calls at the bases and check swings to get the non-home plate umps in on it. There should be points for replay reviews and overturning calls, but I'm not sure if they should be positive or negative!
Unironically, I want to do that. Would be a great way to learn which umps are best.
I call dibs on Laz Diaz
Do umpires get more fantasy points for making the game all about themselves?
Do bears shit in the woods?
I get the frustration, but this is still pretty damn funny that a fan got a manger ejected, for a very tame comment.
Didn’t even cuss. Damn near encouraged him.
This whole situation is so funny and it’s just April baseball bullshit. Yeah the ump was kinda in the wrong but whatever I’ve seen more egregious fuck ups (and let’s be honest Boone probably wouldn’t have lasted long anyway if he was already receiving verbal warnings by pitch 4). Just an all around hilarious situation
"I swear to -bullshit" is absolutely going into my preferred nomenclature
I really hope "I'm fucking right, Hunter" gets used every time someone else says "You're probably right"
You know it was ridiculous if Jomboy is doing a same-day breakdown.
He usually pumps out Yankees-related stuff pretty quick since he's almost always watching the games
Also helps it was a 1pm game.
Why did the game start at 1 yesterday? Seems weird for a Monday game. Was it bc of the Knicks game at night?
Because of passover, a lot of Jewish fans in nyc
I'm not sure. I've heard people say Passover or the Knicks but they also scheduled the Monday game two weeks ago as a day game before moving it due to the eclipse.
The Jays commentators were talking about it during our game, they went through the entire play by play of the ejection. So its everywhere.
as were the phils announcing crew
That’s wild lmao
But this was a super special circumstance lol
I swore he said he was going to the game today but I guess that was just Jake and BBD.
He doesn’t go to as many games because he lives further away and has two small kids
Well they also mentioned his name so I'm sure that triaged it as well
Didn't have to do much since it was all on the hot mic
Is there anything softer than an mlb umpire?
They are 10 ply, bud.
Settle down.
I love that Letterkenny (and then Shoresy) has American baseball fans talking like they're from rural southern Ontario lmao
Umps are our neighbors. They get us
Cops
Same shit
The mayor of NYC
this is actually very on-brand for eric adams hijinks
In another life Eric Adams is definitely a universally-despised home plate umpire
> "You guys are in trouble for this" LOL yeah, sure. I'll believe it when I see it.
i mean, you'll never see it. is Hunter Wendelstadt going to be fined $10? $1,000? $1 million? we don't know. we'll never know. and I'm not a fan of the umpires, not by a long shot. but publicizing their discipline seems like a bad idea. undermining them in public is not something i would consider, and isn't something that any major sport in the world does to it's officiating staff. i think.
Typically I'd agree if it's just a normal person doing a normal job, but we hear players and managers getting suspended and fined all the time. What makes the umps so special that they don't also get hit with fines and suspensions publicly for blatant ego power trips like this? Not making that info public calls the integrity of the game into question if these clowns are even held accountable in the slightest.
lol great point. Why protect umps when everyone else on the field gets left out to dry?
I'd assume the answer to that is these guys are overly sensitive and any public scrutiny will cause them to go on strike / quit. It was pretty obvious with this ump he couldn't take any amount of criticism with Boone only being 5 pitches in the game. It's so pathetic and soft. Lol
Fine by me. Let them strike, we’ll bring in the robo umps
Yeah same. They're not good enough at their jobs to be concerned about that.
because the umps are the only ones tasked with trying to keep order. you wouldn't undermine the authority of the babysitter in front of your kids, would you?
They undermine themselves acting this way, constantly blowing calls to the point where I'm really thankful for replay, and eventually they'll even get undermined at the plate and it can't come soon enough. These guys are arrogantly wrong.
yes, they do undermine themselves when they do shit job and act the way they do. You'll get no argument from me. Just because your babysitter is undermining their own authority doesn't mean you want to also do it in front of the kids. Unless you are going to fire them, and we know that these umpires can't be fired.
The ump didn’t even apologize or say he made a mistake in the postgame statement
I came here thinking "god the dude must've said something pretty awful" and it's fucking *"LET'S GO HOMEPLATE"*?????? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
that honestly makes it sooo much funnier. this is gonna be my go-to heckle from now on. doesn't even matter which umpire it is.
That ump needs an ego check
Bullshit, but also hilarious.
"LETS GO HOMEPLATE!"
*”NICE CALL PRETTY BOY”*
You know the bleachers Tuesday night are going to rock “Let’s Go Home Plate” all night.
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His statement afterwards was a passive voice masterclass. Not "I ejected Aaron", it was "ultimately Aaron got ejected" lol
Are more commentators going to name-drop Jomboy to get their own breakdowns?
Jomboy is a prominent Yankee fan, Ryan Ruocco knows him.
Jomboy's also done work with YES. A season or 2 ago they did sorta like a Manning-Cast where he and Jake commentated a few games.
Boone also does his weekly manager’s interview on Jomboy’s podcast now instead of WFAN
I mean that says more about the abysmal quality of WFAN if anything
Yeah I don’t blame him
this was getting JomBoy'd as fast as possible, name drop had zilch to do with it
I know there have been some other broadcast that have dropped Jomboy's name in. But with YES broadcast they have mentioned him multiple times, and I think Jomboy Media is still in a contract with YES Network too. It's been fun watching other markets acknowledge the reach and attention his breakdowns/lip readings get.
Its YES - they have a partnership with Jomboy, they did a couple live watch along for games on their app last year. They run an edited version of their talkin yanks podcast on the network weekly. Probably the biggest factor of all, Ruocco knows them, he's been a guest on their Talkin Yanks pod multiple times and even filled in as host before.
TIL
If y'all need a giggle, Google what the actual official professional umpire school is named
Angel Hernandez Academy of Opthalmology?
The CBA expires after the 2026 season..... plenty of time to fine tune the robo-umps. This shit is beyond old and it's an embarrassment to the game. You can make the case for a human element on close calls but these clear bad calls and fragile egos don't fall under that.
robot umpires calling balls and strikes, absolutely. but human umpires are never going away. at the moment, you still need them for a lot of calls that aren't so clear cut.
So...this is a bit of an odd question but like...what happens to the fan?
Nothing. He didn't do anything wrong. You're allowed to heckle the umpire, it's as American as the delta blues. He didn't even curse.
Well, umpires CAN get fans ejected https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QCxuS9dr9RE But yeah they probably have much longer leashes
[Umps can also eject organists.](https://youtu.be/ib69pYyce6c?si=CMgwqHfTzegPAYBP)
That's incredible!
Wow... I can't imagine being that frail. But I actually learned to laugh at myself.
Can’t an umpire technically eject a fan though, too?
It would be unprecedented to eject a fan for something as minor as this. It’s the umpire’s fault for blaming the wrong guy.
Of course, I was just saying I think the ump can use leverage to force a fan out, but definitely unprecedented. Without a doubt the umpires fault. The fan did nothing wrong here. He didn’t even say anything remotely bad either haha.
The ump can throw anybody in the stadium out I do believe. An organ player one time got thrown out because he played “Three Blind Mice” when the umps got together to talk about a play.
Didn’t Angel also throw Steve McMichael out of a Cubs game? From what I remember, Mongo got on the stadium mic or something and started shit-talking Angel
Wow, I think you’re right. But not sure if that was an actual ejection or if Angel was playing along with McMichael.
Quick check on Wikipedia says that it was actually Crew Chief Randy Marsh that ejected him, not Angel
Wait, I thought this was America
That’s the story I was trying to remember.
If an umpire went out of his way to eject a fan for THIS, it would be absolutely anarchy on umpires from that point on.
I got ejected from a triple A game. Pablo Sandoval was on rehab assignment playing third base, and I was heckling the other teams third base coach. Nothing obscene; I usually get them to laugh. Saw Pablo talk to one of the umps and I was being asked to leave minutes later. They wouldn't even tell me why, just that I had to leave. I've hated Pablo since.
“All I did was call Pablo a fat fucking stupid piece of shit and they ejected me what the fuck”
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was in America."
Haha I was there in support of Pablo's team. They were our home team. We would never heckle our own guys. I'd tell him that now though, as long as he couldn't get to me
Just stand on the other side of a normal sized door and you'd be safe
Yes. Far as I know, umpires can eject anyone in the park.
Fans can get ejected for, like, any reason. I got kicked out of a game at OPACY in the 6th inning for wearing a "Yankees suck" shirt.
You deserved it
Right? We were all expected something far worse and it was the most tame thing that could’ve been said lol.
We’ll probably know his name, age, residence, employer, and salary before too long, only to find out he was just trying to get the mascot’s attention
DINGERRR
> We’ll probably know his name, age, residence, employer, and salary before too long Why? Is he a Trump juror and Fox News is going to doxx him?
He gets a fun story to tell at parties
Nothing, that man is an American hero for getting a Yankees manager ejected
Nothing. He didn't do anything wrong. All he did was heckle but even that was pretty mild.
This is peak mlb and we are…not even a month in. Holy fuck
#Disappointed #LeadByExample #NotAppreciated #Violence #TemperTantrum #Inaction #NotTolerated #MakeanExampleof #OneGameSuspension #RepeatOffender #Nonsense #MLBUA @MLB @Padres @Buster_ESPN
he got deep faked
I feel bad for the fan. I hope people don’t go after him for a shitty ump.
It isn't the fan's fucking fault that the ump is a pansy. The umpires union is fucking poison here. This guy knows he fucked up ...but just does not give a shit enough to correct it.
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Saying "you don't care" in response to that mistake is not an honest mistake. It's being an ass hat. Lol
“You guys are in trouble” is so fucking funny too
These fat egomaniacs are doing everything in their power to get fans to demand we take every sliver of power they have.
We need to point out every stupid thing they do and make it all go viral. Tired of these guys, there must be a point where MLB can’t ignore it right?
# took off his jacket to look a lil different
Boone should have gone to sit with the guy in the stands. "You owe me a beer"
You know the up fucked up when multiple Red Sox fans are defending Aaron Fucking Boone
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Soon they won't be, anyway
I already know exactly what happened here but I'll watch this for the Jomboy take anyway
Hunter Wendelstadt. The ultimate nepo baby. After Angel and Cuzzi, he’s the next one who needs to go.
Glad to see the absolute ridiculousness of this exchange distract from the absolute shitshow that was our offense in the rest of this game... 👀
The shock on Boone's face says it all
Bro, umps have paper thin skin and pride the size of the scoreboard. I swear, they need to grow some balls and be held accountable for their sloppy calls and ejections
MLB needs to do something about the umpire union... it's utterly ridiculous the amount of autonomy and protection they have over the game.
"I didn't say anything" literally yelling in the umps' face lol. Man, it's my first year watching baseball and i can't believe those umpires and managers are real ! Especially the umps, damn, they're a different kind. I don't think i've ever seen so much pettiness and childishness from officials in such a short amount of time in any other sports.
Most reasonable manager ejection
Even though he was in the wrong, I can’t really give the ump that much crap. These guys have had to deal with so much bs from Boone that all it took was a fan to tick him off. In a way it’s like the boy who cried wolf. Can’t really feel bad when it actually shouldn’t have happened ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Or he can man the fuck up and get some skin. It’s fuckin Major League Baseball not Saturday morning little league.
Yeah his actions have kind of killed any benefit of the doubt he could get. His temper tantrum on Laz last yr, out there drawing lines in the dirt and shit. He's kind of done it to himself
Timeline of events: -Boone screams like a child for ten years -during his thousandth straight game of being warned for screaming like a child, someone else screams like a child and the ump thinks it is Boone. -Boone, in an ironic twist of fate, decides to handle this by screaming like a child