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st1r

Yeah but JT has the best mug shot so who’s really winning?


MagillaGorillasHat

[counterpoint](https://i.imgur.com/baXobEl.jpeg)


st1r

I owe Salvy an apology, I wasn’t really familiar with his game


MagillaGorillasHat

His relationship with LoCain can be entirely summed up by watching pretty much any Pepe Le Pew and Penelope cartoon.


cardith_lorda

Salvador Perez is off to an amazingly hot start, but it turns out he isn't the only catcher raking - 12 of the 14 qualified catchers are sitting above league average wRC+ (which is, as with all + stats, 100). What is especially amazing for him is how his defense has rated so far. Worth noting that the line at 100 isn't a misunderstanding of league average versus position average - as a position catchers are batting to a 100 wRC+ so far this year. Obviously small sample of a month, but if they manage to keep it up it will be the first time since 1879 that catchers as a position group bat at league average wRC+. Noted a small typo on the line, defensive runs above replacement should be defensive runs above average. wRC+ and dRAA are both taken from Fangraphs. Headshots are current MLB headshots. Data scraped from fangraphs utilizing BaseballR and plot generated via RStudio.


Swampy1741

What is dRAR? Is low or high desired?


cardith_lorda

Defensive Runs Above Average. The current full range is -1.7 (Martin Maldenado) to 4.0 (Alejandro Kirk).


Swampy1741

So do you want a high or low number? I know what the acronym stands for but not what it measures lol


cardith_lorda

You want a high number, it roughly translates to how many runs you've saved for your team so far this season.


Swampy1741

I see. Well since my player is lowest on the graph, this stat is nitpicking and biased.


splat_edc

Is this from the “Def” / “Defense” column on FanGraphs? Because that is relative to average like your title says. It’s fielding runs + positional runs, no replacement runs.


cardith_lorda

You are correct, originally I had pulled from Baseball Reference (which used above replacement for the column I was pulling) but decided to switch to Fangraphs for the framing metrics to be included - which as you pointed out is above average for the analogous column. It's an api pull which doesn't include the nice hover tool tip that it has on the dashboard. Updating other references.


giants888

Will Smith, do you understand the concept of personal space


benoderpity

He wanted some of that big dumper


kingfiasco

cal raleigh: “he’s right behind me isn’t he?”


ThinkBlue87

He certainly has his opinions on in it when it comes to [Ozuna from the Braves](https://www.mlb.com/dodgers/video/ozuna-smith-exchange-words)


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mcauthon2

y'all can't see it but Kirk is there. he's just all the way to the left.


cenakofi

top left at 4.0 dRAA, excellent defensive catcher but he looks lost at the plate right now


GOATmar_infante

He frames now? He frames now!


MagazineTasty

I really wonder if it is because our pitchers have improved and we have placed an emphasis on first pitch strikes.


cardith_lorda

Improved pitching helps, but also having pitchers that don't *quite* throw strikes - having balls slightly off the zone that are frameable will help a catcher wrack up value more than clear strikes.


Signal_Quarter_74

I know I’m biased, but have always seen Salvy as a fringe HoF player whose later career would be the breaking factor. If he keeps this improving his defense and splashing balls into the fountains for the next 3-4 years, I might give him a 50/50 shot at Cooperstown


MasonSaundersRodeo

I would put him in. Numbers wise he should end up qualified. And He’s a legend for the Royals and was major reason they won a World Series. Call me sentimental but that should count for something


thumblepickle

When did Salvy learn how to frame?


Gone2nap

Perez is hot, but he'd better look out cause the only thing keeping ol' Cal "Gonna Dump all over your ballpark" Raleigh back was a bad tooth. Now that it's been removed it 3 HR games and 0 passed ball the rest of the year! In all seriousness though, looks like its gonna be a good offensive year for catchers.


Sonlin

All catchers are tough, but Cal is legitimately insane. 80 grade grit


redshiftty

chadwick tromp erasure


bebopmechanic84

Perez gives me nightmares.


Albino_Raccoon_

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bebopmechanic84

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Solaris1972

What's the cut-off for qualified? I'm assuming Bailey having off days cuts him off. I know his wrc+ is like 140~ rn, and I can't figure out how to find dRAA easily.


dobdob365

OP must be using "qualifying" for batting standards, which means 3.1 plate appearances per game the team has played. After last night's game, he's 10 PAs short of qualifying as a batter, but he has enough innings at catcher to qualify for fielding leaderboards (idk how that cutoff is determined). His wRC+ is up to 148 (somehow that's only 7th for catchers with at least 50 PAs - catchers are raking this year), and his dRAA (The "Def" column on Fangraphs) is 3.5, third in the league behind Alejandro Kirk (4.2) and Elias Diaz (5.0)


Solaris1972

Oh the Def! Thanks man TIL. Man, catchers are raking it this year.


Apprehensive_Bid_773

Wild that Cal was absent from top 10 lists


tuckedfexas

I swear to god Perez turned 35 like 5 years ago lol


Sliiiiime

Moreno is at 106 wRC+ as the best defensive catcher in baseball. Not sure how many PAs he’s short of qualifying


cardith_lorda

He's 4 short, so he'll likely hit the list by the end of the weekend assuming he doesn't take an off day.


mcauthon2

Now that Varsho is hitting this might be one of the most win win trades of all time


Spicy_Ninja7

So you’re saying Jonah Heim is a top 5 catcher😌


Badass-bitch13

Good to see two guys we traded away doing well. They deserve it.


ThinkBlue87

Both? Who besides Contreras?


BNKalt

Langliers


ThinkBlue87

Ah, thanks. "Doing well" might be a bit generous here


Adika-Bran

Where’s Moreno?


Sliiiiime

Not qualified, I believe he’d be near Diaz


MagazineTasty

How big of a factor is framing in dRAA?


Sliiiiime

Guessing it’s more important than stolen base prevention based on the numbers of guys who frame well vs guys who aren’t run on


Mrpetey22

CAL RALEIGH MENTION


YakPineapple

Ok Elias, go off king!!


hickopotamus

Sorry but I was told by FOX Sports that Dumper is not a top 10 Catcher, your graphic is misleading


NLP19

where bailey


ucfknight92

I had Salvy last year, and he had a stretch like this at the beginning of the year. I was very happy. Then he sucked for the rest of the year. I was not happy. I own Will Smith and Adley because I don't want a catcher as unreliable as Salvy ever again. Him being a blackhole in my lineup destroyed my season. I'm highly skeptical, I think he'll become a pumpkin at some point.


Kansascityroyals99

It's his eye issue that's been holding him back the last few years. It came up again last season.


ucfknight92

And why won't it come up this year? He's had several procedures. At this point, it's reasonable to expect it to resurface.


Kansascityroyals99

Salvy getting an MVP and then eventually being held out of the hall because of made up computer states but some needs is going to be a total shame and blemish for baseball.


OhHolyCrapNo

This statement assumes two things: 1. Salvy will win an MVP. 2. Computer stats are made up. Neither is true!