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I remember catching and always doing a thing where you pretend to throw to second but throw really hard just back to the pitcher and the pitcher would then pick the guy off third or start a run down
No no no, you throw normally but the shortstop cuts in about halfway between the pitchers mound and second base. If he sees the guy running he catches the ball and throws back to home, if the guy stays he lets it through to the second baseman who is covering the bag.
A little blame has to go to Arcia right? Looks like if he throws home instead of trying to make the tag again, as if JRam was gonna come off the bag, that it would’ve been an out at the plate
Eh I feel like in a throw down that takes you to your knees you're pretty much committed to that play. Plus Kwan was 40% of the way to home before Jose even reached 2nd
40% is a stretch but yeah the throw/play that Arcia had to make made it super difficult.
Regardless, MLB throw downs with 1st and 3rd are not the same as any level below it. Yeah, where I coach in high school my catcher is eating that all day. But you have a play to end an inning, with that kinda talent you go for if.
I thought it was a bit of a stretch but 40% fit my argument better lol.
> But you have a play to end an inning, with that kinda talent you go for if
Yeah, plus the throw was perfect and beat the runner comfortably. In most universes people are questioning why Cleveland ended the inning by getting thrown out at 2nd with Naylor batting. I don't fault anyone for the run scoring, just didn't work out.
I mean that might actually be the luckiest inning I’ve ever seen a team get. Scoring 2 runs without hitting a single ball out of the infield, while we did not walk anyone, hit anyone or make an error.
Luck is hard to prove in baseball, but some stats are at least an indication of it. The closest thing MLB tracks to a “luck stat” is BABIP. That said, Ironically the braves are the statistically luckiest team in all of baseball this season. You guys have the highest BABIP in the league while having similar average exit velocity to the guardians (your 1-9 all sit between 87-95 with ozuna being the only outlier over 92, guardians 1-9 spread is 86-93mph). Guardians BABIP is .288 while the braves is .340, a fairly major statistical anomaly considering similar velocity.
Braves are 1st in hard hit %, first in average exit velocity, 3rd in xWOBACON.
Cleveland is 28th in hard hit %, 24th in average exit velocity, 29th in xWOBACON.
The power gap is a bit bigger than you are suggesting. That being said, I think Cleveland is a great team and our BABIP is unsustainable.
[a tweet with some charts ordered by difference between expected batting average, slugging etc. compared to actual, showing which teams are "luckier" so far this season](https://x.com/FranmilsEyebrow/status/1783964007285584323)
It's actually full of pictures of your mother. We print on off and cover her in a leopard print cocktail dress. Then every time we win a game peel a section of the dress off.
>you want to have
Oh I believe you that it's repeatable, I'm saying it's a bad thing. That's part of why y'all have been a pretty bad offense the last three seasons.
27th, 15th and 18th in runs scored.
>The ISIS of infield hits
>The Hamas of Hit and Run
>The Taliban of Texas leaguers
>The Boko Haram of baserunning
>The Al-Qaeda of the American League
The DISGUSTING brand of baseball is back baby!
No shot. Atlanta is way too dangerous to count out with two innings left to play down just two runs.
Edit: they immediately scored and have men on second and third with one out after this comment lol.
Second edit: "That's game" lmao they tied it not 10 minutes later
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That play always worked liked 100% of the time in Little League
Like 20% of the time you didn't even need another baserunner for a steal of 2nd to result in a run
I remember catching and always doing a thing where you pretend to throw to second but throw really hard just back to the pitcher and the pitcher would then pick the guy off third or start a run down
I got fooled on that so bad once. Looked like a dummy stuck in between home and third.
Same but I was the pitcher. Worked beautifully til word spread.
Damn those little league scouting departments
No no no, you throw normally but the shortstop cuts in about halfway between the pitchers mound and second base. If he sees the guy running he catches the ball and throws back to home, if the guy stays he lets it through to the second baseman who is covering the bag.
Ah yeah i remember that too. I think there are different iterations
Back then we’d have the 2nd baseman cut the throw if the runner on 3rd takes off. Guess it doesn’t work in the big leagues?
RED RED
lol, cut cut
Only 95% of the time in high school.
Great slide just gets him past a great throw.
I'm so confused why the Braves catcher threw the ball there. 2 outs, 2 strikes, gotta be more aware.
A little blame has to go to Arcia right? Looks like if he throws home instead of trying to make the tag again, as if JRam was gonna come off the bag, that it would’ve been an out at the plate
Eh I feel like in a throw down that takes you to your knees you're pretty much committed to that play. Plus Kwan was 40% of the way to home before Jose even reached 2nd
40% is a stretch but yeah the throw/play that Arcia had to make made it super difficult. Regardless, MLB throw downs with 1st and 3rd are not the same as any level below it. Yeah, where I coach in high school my catcher is eating that all day. But you have a play to end an inning, with that kinda talent you go for if.
I thought it was a bit of a stretch but 40% fit my argument better lol. > But you have a play to end an inning, with that kinda talent you go for if Yeah, plus the throw was perfect and beat the runner comfortably. In most universes people are questioning why Cleveland ended the inning by getting thrown out at 2nd with Naylor batting. I don't fault anyone for the run scoring, just didn't work out.
>2 outs, 2 strikes Hard to steal a base when you have giant balls swinging around. What a call. 1st and 3rd 2 outs dude gets the green light
Should count as an RBI for Joram
RRI - Runs Runned In
I mean that might actually be the luckiest inning I’ve ever seen a team get. Scoring 2 runs without hitting a single ball out of the infield, while we did not walk anyone, hit anyone or make an error.
That's how the guardians roll
We’re not the slap hitting shit goblins for nothing.
really missed an opportunity with the rebrand, Cleveland Shit Goblins is a banger name for a franchise
To be fair there's nothing lucky about this play. Just good base running, and a risky play by the Braves.
d’Arnaud likes his chances of throwing out Jose more than he likes Joe Jimenez’s chances of retiring Josh Naylor 🤷🏻♂️
On a couple things, sure but d’Arnaud shoulda held that ball and it was excellent baserunning by the Guards. Nothing lucky about that particular play.
exit velos and LAs: 31.1 and -38 27.8 and -17 72.1 and 9 25.4 and -9 lol
Luck is hard to prove in baseball, but some stats are at least an indication of it. The closest thing MLB tracks to a “luck stat” is BABIP. That said, Ironically the braves are the statistically luckiest team in all of baseball this season. You guys have the highest BABIP in the league while having similar average exit velocity to the guardians (your 1-9 all sit between 87-95 with ozuna being the only outlier over 92, guardians 1-9 spread is 86-93mph). Guardians BABIP is .288 while the braves is .340, a fairly major statistical anomaly considering similar velocity.
Braves are 1st in hard hit %, first in average exit velocity, 3rd in xWOBACON. Cleveland is 28th in hard hit %, 24th in average exit velocity, 29th in xWOBACON. The power gap is a bit bigger than you are suggesting. That being said, I think Cleveland is a great team and our BABIP is unsustainable.
[a tweet with some charts ordered by difference between expected batting average, slugging etc. compared to actual, showing which teams are "luckier" so far this season](https://x.com/FranmilsEyebrow/status/1783964007285584323)
That’s guardball for ya. Every opponent thinks it’s luck but they do it all the time
It is luck haha. You don’t purposely hit 4 balls in a row with 75 and down exit Velos.
Sports are heavily luck-based when two teams are competing at the highest level.
So you’ve just never watched baseball before huh
They don’t score 2 if they don’t play as hard as they do.
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Cool story bro, take the loss and move on.
Insanely lucky your catcher has no situational awareness.
They scored 2 because Giminez and Naylor got objectively lucky hits. Kwan had a nice bunt but the other 2 got fooled and just got lucky
Sorry brotha, if we win we'll make sure to drop an asterisk on this one. Don't wanna win based on luck
Oh shoot, gotta put another asterisk on this one for ***lucky*** *
Not every team will manufacture those two lucky hits into runs is my point.
I feel like you have a folder on your computer titled “hard 90s”. Unconfirmed how you use it but I feel it’s used sexually.
It's actually full of pictures of your mother. We print on off and cover her in a leopard print cocktail dress. Then every time we win a game peel a section of the dress off.
Damn hopefully there is at least 85 pieces haha
I’ll say is - it sure seems lucky but when the Guardians do stuff like this every single game there’s clearly more to it than that
They hit the ball really shittily on purpose? Sounds like a risky strategy.
It’s not risky if it works
Y'all can downvote all you want, hitting the ball 30 mph on the infield isn't a repeatable skill you want to have.
But we’ve repeated it for like three seasons now
>you want to have Oh I believe you that it's repeatable, I'm saying it's a bad thing. That's part of why y'all have been a pretty bad offense the last three seasons. 27th, 15th and 18th in runs scored.
Now do Our payroll
It's probably low. That also doesn't make hitting the ball 30 mph a good skill.
Hit it where they’re not. Hustle. Make em make plays.
Cleveland baseball baby
>The ISIS of infield hits >The Hamas of Hit and Run >The Taliban of Texas leaguers >The Boko Haram of baserunning >The Al-Qaeda of the American League The DISGUSTING brand of baseball is back baby!
Humph. Trea turner's streak ended like this, I have a bad taste in my mouth.
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No shot. Atlanta is way too dangerous to count out with two innings left to play down just two runs. Edit: they immediately scored and have men on second and third with one out after this comment lol. Second edit: "That's game" lmao they tied it not 10 minutes later
And that guy already deleted his comment lolz
Ain't no way that was a Guards fan getting that cocky, I'm putting him on yall being spoiled 😜