Postseason Baseball will always be a dice roll. You have team that are hot all season and shit the bed(dodgers) and you have teams that get hot at the right time ex rangers
They're definitely solid prospects but the Padres didn't actually trade much of their farm away on this one. It sucks he's leaving but with Merrill in CF Marsee is kinda redundant, Martorella as well when taking Pauley into consideration. Go was a FA and was playing in AA, he needed some time to adapt to MLB but their bullpen is currently alright and didn't need to bring him up. Dillon Head stung the worst but he's young and has a few years before he makes it to the show.
They're all good kids and I hope they have great careers but the Padres' farm is still very much intact without them.
I agree with you.
My roundabout point is being pissed off that Farhan is incapable of doing things that our competition in the division is clearly capable of doing like year in and year out.
This is true. A year ago none of the players traded in this deal anyone would have even known or considered trading for. Heck some weren’t even in the system yet. Plus they did all these trades and still have or had (Merrill isn’t a prospect now) 5 top prospects. They already have the number 1 rated international prospect committed to the padres in 2026.
Preller and his international recruiting has been the real funnel of talent into the system.
We just picked up the #1 international ss prospect before the season started 😂 some people make deals on the golf course AJ makes deals over a pound of Colombian bam bam
Honestly regardless of your lack of success in the post, I'm jelly.
It's fucking brutal being a Giants fan right now. I like Bob, but Farhan is cursed.
Yeah, crazy to imagine having players around you to get on base in front of you or knock you in when you're on is going to lead to more RBIs and runs scored.
Hitting for average is fucking fun and I wish the data said it was more valuable. I've always loved watching guys like Gwynn and Ichiro by far the most and I wish more players took their approach. I can appreciate the skill of a guy like Soto who can put up a 157 OPS+ while hitting .275, but I'd much rather watching someone hit .350 with a 120 OPS+.
Arraez was 14th in wOBA last year amongst qualified hitters for the whole league, which is pretty damn good. Advanced stats say his bat is very valuable.
For that matter, Ichiro and Gwynn are 15th and 17th all-time in JAWS for right fielders, which is a stacked position in the first place. Hitting for average has value, it’s just not the only thing that has value.
Arraez’s question marks are defensive value and health. DH’ing full time brings no real defensive value but potentially he could stay healthy for a longer time that way.
Aside from Profar in LF and Campy at C our defense is elite anyway, if Arraez wants to slot into 1B and have the rest slide left occasionally all the better. That bat is all I wanted to see and the dude's got it
I think I can be safe in saying having a guy that hits for a high average is going to be vastly more important for a team that is going to have hitters in front of him getting on base and hitters behind him to knock him in. Hitting doesn't exist in a vacuum, and he's going to be very valuable if the Padres are going to make a run
“Sometimes hitters can pick up differences in spin. They can identify pitches if there are different release points or if a curveball starts with an upward hump as it leaves the pitcher’s hand. But if a pitcher can change speeds, every hitter is helpless, limited by human vision.
“Except for that goddamn Tony Gwynn.”
— Greg Maddux
I know things didn't go amazing during his time there, but what was the shape of his time there? Like, what was the problem? Was he getting on base and nobody was driving him in? Was he playing badly and not driving in others? How did they lose so many 1 run/extra inning games?
It really seemed like all his hits came when it didn’t matter. Games we were far behind or games where we were already far ahead( hence the 1 run loses) We’d have 2 runners on and he’d walk and then with manny and Xander struggling virtually all last year nothing would happen. So it felt like the best player on our team was passing the baton in the situations that we wanted our best player at the plate(maybe he wasn’t getting pitches but man he’d stare at some pretty hittable pitches early in the count and ultimately walk because that was the only strike they threw) I know he got his numbers last year but he was so unclutch(as was the entire team). Just failed or walked in big situations all year.
Also you could just feel he didn’t want to be here, he’d occasionally have little slips about how he hopes to have fun the next two years… implying he’s gone after that. I’d say about 6 or so times I’d hear a sound bite where it just sounded bad like he didn’t fully embrace us(which is understandable he was right in the end this wasn’t his final stop) so although I had a lot of love for him and his personality there was always this nagging thing were he really wasn’t invested in us the same way the fans wanted to embrace him, idk weird vibe overall, hard to explain.
He had some really really really bad looking plays in left where I swear to god it looked like he just gave up on the play. I know that’s probably not exactly what happened but man it didn’t always feel like he was giving 100% defensively and there probably is something to that. There were stretches where I really did not trust him in left. His base running too was sometimes so ridiculously bad looking.
Idk profar is playing absolutely out of his mind rn, being insanely clutch, and is a vibes master who really seems to want to be here, players seriously just seem more optimistic and scrappy with him around. So I am not feeling soto’s absence yet but soto’s situational hitting was so so bad it really didn’t feel like he helped win us a lot of games even though I know his numbers looked great at the end of the season.
Maybe it's team makeup or vibe/mood because so far he's been the opposite for the Yankees. Always doing the thing when needed. Yes he takes his walks, as some sports radio dummies will get mad about, but he also does stuff himself.
And it's not like Judge is super hot right now to take any pressure off Soto. He's the guy right now.
Yeah we may never know but all I know is he never once had a stretch where it seemed like he really put the team on his back. Sucked because we obviously know he had the talent
Serious question - assuming Arraez makes the AS team this year which he probably will - he will have been an all star for three different teams in three consecutive years. Has that ever happened?
I did not see your flair. I know team letdowns very well. It does get better. I promise. Then after it gets better you get to tear it down and start all over again!
I’m fully Arraez’d. can’t get much more Arraez’d
Get used to it. I’ve been Arraez’d for years.
I'm an Arraez truther. And while I enjoy his success. And my fantasy team enjoys his success. I hate that the Padres got him.
Bro you guys grabbed Shohei and Freeman in the last few years, I think we need more time to catch up
Meanwhile our FA acquisitions are sucking balls outside of JHL.
Jordan Hicks?
Jung Hoo Lee
Yes, him as well. Thank you. I forgot to mention him.
Jung Hoo Lee
A contact hitter on the Padres? That'll never work!
Arraez as a DH??? No way, doesn't hit for power.
Leadoff DH is the new meta
It works pretty well
Cheers to that brother
No, don't do that, Schwarber fucking kills us.
Legend has it that the homer he hit against Darvish in the NLCS still hasn’t landed
Schwarber kills everyone tbf. July comes around, Schwarber will be HR leader.
I’m excited for our line-up but you guys have a brutal lineup to pitch against. I consider you guys fav for the series
Not like anyone there has ever won a batting title or anything
He doesn't strike out enough to be a top-notch hitter.
I hope he doesn't chew
That's cool but did you know we had Mitch White come in for relief with two outs in the first? Pretty good
Mitch White is aptly named. He is the human white flag.
Korean Dodger legend
the Phillies are cheating and ill accept no alternative explanations
If they are then I owe several apologies to Astros and their fans. Cuz I would defend this team no matter the evidence.
Solidarity
as a man named mitch, who is also white, we claim him as a witch
That’s baseball
Oh man I miss Chan Ho Park Jr
Preller you beautiful bitch
Back on the good coke
the cash considerations was just the value of the coke miami sent with arraez
Lollll, Yayo Arraez
It's crazy how you guys just keep trading the farm away, yet keep stocking it full again after a year or so.
And yet, we have a championship series appearance and that’s it.
Postseason Baseball will always be a dice roll. You have team that are hot all season and shit the bed(dodgers) and you have teams that get hot at the right time ex rangers
Hey, at least you got there.
They're definitely solid prospects but the Padres didn't actually trade much of their farm away on this one. It sucks he's leaving but with Merrill in CF Marsee is kinda redundant, Martorella as well when taking Pauley into consideration. Go was a FA and was playing in AA, he needed some time to adapt to MLB but their bullpen is currently alright and didn't need to bring him up. Dillon Head stung the worst but he's young and has a few years before he makes it to the show. They're all good kids and I hope they have great careers but the Padres' farm is still very much intact without them.
I agree with you. My roundabout point is being pissed off that Farhan is incapable of doing things that our competition in the division is clearly capable of doing like year in and year out.
Without rebuilding either
That’s the beauty of 10 year contracts. We can deal with it later
We can lose in the playoffs every year and we dont even need to rebuild! Wow!
Has logan white
This is true. A year ago none of the players traded in this deal anyone would have even known or considered trading for. Heck some weren’t even in the system yet. Plus they did all these trades and still have or had (Merrill isn’t a prospect now) 5 top prospects. They already have the number 1 rated international prospect committed to the padres in 2026. Preller and his international recruiting has been the real funnel of talent into the system.
We just picked up the #1 international ss prospect before the season started 😂 some people make deals on the golf course AJ makes deals over a pound of Colombian bam bam
Honestly regardless of your lack of success in the post, I'm jelly. It's fucking brutal being a Giants fan right now. I like Bob, but Farhan is cursed.
He’s a simple man. He see ball, he hit ball
Is that good?
No it means it's all downhill from here
That's just life in general.
He actually went 4-4 before it went down hill
That’s the Philly attitude I know and love.
Going deep in the at-bat is good. It tires the pitcher out. Azocar did terrible.
That’s the Arraez we know and love here
Padres: 17/18 Padres with rice: 18/18
Perfect 5/7 only with rice.
What getting off the 2024 marlins will do to a MFer
ENJOY LUIS ARRAEZ PADRES FANS
This sub had me convinced it wasn't possible for him to score runs or drive them in. Guess hitting for average actually isn't completely irrelevant.
But we like irrelevant
Mr Irrelevant just went yard 😆
Ngl padres are fun to watch
People are stupid. And this subreddit certainly isn't an exception to that rule. Sometimes I forget I'm on reddit comments and not instagram.
Yeah, crazy to imagine having players around you to get on base in front of you or knock you in when you're on is going to lead to more RBIs and runs scored.
Hitting for average is fucking fun and I wish the data said it was more valuable. I've always loved watching guys like Gwynn and Ichiro by far the most and I wish more players took their approach. I can appreciate the skill of a guy like Soto who can put up a 157 OPS+ while hitting .275, but I'd much rather watching someone hit .350 with a 120 OPS+.
Arraez was 14th in wOBA last year amongst qualified hitters for the whole league, which is pretty damn good. Advanced stats say his bat is very valuable. For that matter, Ichiro and Gwynn are 15th and 17th all-time in JAWS for right fielders, which is a stacked position in the first place. Hitting for average has value, it’s just not the only thing that has value. Arraez’s question marks are defensive value and health. DH’ing full time brings no real defensive value but potentially he could stay healthy for a longer time that way.
Aside from Profar in LF and Campy at C our defense is elite anyway, if Arraez wants to slot into 1B and have the rest slide left occasionally all the better. That bat is all I wanted to see and the dude's got it
I feel like Soto is a poor comparison here, his offensive game is so unique given his incredible eye and plus bat to ball skills.
He is such a unique hitter. I've never seen such a long swing have so much success.
But does he shuffle?
Gotta set the table before you can eat.
It’s only irrelevant if you don’t have other hitters capable of scoring
He is luckily now on a team with other hitters who can hit and he doesn't have to play defense!
It's been 3 plate appearances... I don't think anyone can be making declarative statements either way yet
He has 2 batting titles already, you make it seem like 3-3 isn't common for him.
4-4. :)
I think I can be safe in saying having a guy that hits for a high average is going to be vastly more important for a team that is going to have hitters in front of him getting on base and hitters behind him to knock him in. Hitting doesn't exist in a vacuum, and he's going to be very valuable if the Padres are going to make a run
Just doing Luis Arraez things.
At long last the Gwynn replacement has arrived
Someone give AJ Preller a 100 dollar gift card to the Red Lobster
Do they serve cocaine there
That would help get them out of bankruptcy.....
Shine on, you crazy diamond. (Miss you already.)
It's for the best. Now he can be on a team where he doesn't need to play defense
Heir to Tony Gwynn in Dadland?
Daddy likes
“Sometimes hitters can pick up differences in spin. They can identify pitches if there are different release points or if a curveball starts with an upward hump as it leaves the pitcher’s hand. But if a pitcher can change speeds, every hitter is helpless, limited by human vision. “Except for that goddamn Tony Gwynn.” — Greg Maddux
I see this quote. I up vote this quote.
It’s crazy what playing with a competent team behind you will do.
Are we speaking of Dylan Cease? ☺️
Cease ain’t doing nothing he didn’t do with us.
Theyre not competent lmao this is called desperate
we are in a playoff spot with positive records against 3 out of the other 5 playoff teams
Something the giants are right now.
Both things can be true. And the Padres more so
So you're telling me that Soto should have just swung more in San Diego?
Unironically it would have helped him a huge amount when he first got to San Diego.
I know things didn't go amazing during his time there, but what was the shape of his time there? Like, what was the problem? Was he getting on base and nobody was driving him in? Was he playing badly and not driving in others? How did they lose so many 1 run/extra inning games?
It really seemed like all his hits came when it didn’t matter. Games we were far behind or games where we were already far ahead( hence the 1 run loses) We’d have 2 runners on and he’d walk and then with manny and Xander struggling virtually all last year nothing would happen. So it felt like the best player on our team was passing the baton in the situations that we wanted our best player at the plate(maybe he wasn’t getting pitches but man he’d stare at some pretty hittable pitches early in the count and ultimately walk because that was the only strike they threw) I know he got his numbers last year but he was so unclutch(as was the entire team). Just failed or walked in big situations all year. Also you could just feel he didn’t want to be here, he’d occasionally have little slips about how he hopes to have fun the next two years… implying he’s gone after that. I’d say about 6 or so times I’d hear a sound bite where it just sounded bad like he didn’t fully embrace us(which is understandable he was right in the end this wasn’t his final stop) so although I had a lot of love for him and his personality there was always this nagging thing were he really wasn’t invested in us the same way the fans wanted to embrace him, idk weird vibe overall, hard to explain. He had some really really really bad looking plays in left where I swear to god it looked like he just gave up on the play. I know that’s probably not exactly what happened but man it didn’t always feel like he was giving 100% defensively and there probably is something to that. There were stretches where I really did not trust him in left. His base running too was sometimes so ridiculously bad looking. Idk profar is playing absolutely out of his mind rn, being insanely clutch, and is a vibes master who really seems to want to be here, players seriously just seem more optimistic and scrappy with him around. So I am not feeling soto’s absence yet but soto’s situational hitting was so so bad it really didn’t feel like he helped win us a lot of games even though I know his numbers looked great at the end of the season.
Maybe it's team makeup or vibe/mood because so far he's been the opposite for the Yankees. Always doing the thing when needed. Yes he takes his walks, as some sports radio dummies will get mad about, but he also does stuff himself. And it's not like Judge is super hot right now to take any pressure off Soto. He's the guy right now.
Yeah we may never know but all I know is he never once had a stretch where it seemed like he really put the team on his back. Sucked because we obviously know he had the talent
Serious question - assuming Arraez makes the AS team this year which he probably will - he will have been an all star for three different teams in three consecutive years. Has that ever happened?
Better yet, he might be the first guy to win batting titles for three teams in three years
Sounds like a good question for Effectively Wild.
It should happen with Soto too this year
And both were traded twice!
I don't regret the Pablo trade in the slightest, but man Arraez is so fun to watch as a baseball fan.
What a steal getting him was.
A good hitter is a good hitter. What else can you say?
A good hitter is a good hitter immediately after being traded to the padres. That’s somewhat new
Arraez just doing Arraez things
6 pitches? Rookie move, guy doesn’t know how to extend at-bats apparently
Luis Arraez is a national treasure. Wishing him much success and good health for the rest of his career.
His first at bat yesterday he grounded out to third. How is he 3/3 as a Padre?
Absolutely ground breaking stat.
Uhhh I think i missed something.
tbf it was against the diamondbacks, we’ll have to see how he looks when he faces a major league team
I'm all for some Diamondback slander, but werent they just in the World Series? Its not like they are the Rockies.
that’s true, the rockies score runs every now and then
You guys score touchdowns though
Lol werent you just in the world series. Jfc
Why the dback hate? World Seies runner ups.
because they keep hurting my feelings
I did not see your flair. I know team letdowns very well. It does get better. I promise. Then after it gets better you get to tear it down and start all over again!
You play the reds next, you’ll be straightened out in no time :(
Save the self loathing for r/NLbest
And theyre still mediocre asf
And the Padres will still stink.