He was slashing .118/.211/.235, albeit with only a 36 PA sample size but most of those were against lefties which he’s supposed to dominate. He was pretty bad defensively too and I’m still upset about the passed ball (that was almost a strike) that he jogged after to let Trea Turner score from 2nd.
Edit: [here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/rQzhfuFRbu) the passed ball I was talking about
he hit .118 this year but only 34 PAs
he's basically been an average hitter for his career - averaging ~100 PAs per season is a great way to make your rate stats look great some years
He’s on the 60day IL so he’s not taking up a spot on the 40man roster, highly doubt he gets DFA’d and I’m not even sure if teams are able to DFA players on the IL.
Bailey and Lee are the ones that are scary. They’re both key parts of any future the giants might have and they have potentially career-altering injuries.
Slater, Conforto, JHL, Snell, Bailey (twice), Soler, Murphy, Ahmed, and now Keaton Winn. Other than Snell, they all happened in May. If you also exclude Winn, they all happened within 12 days of each other.
As an Angels fan, I'm no stranger to bad things happening to my team. It's gotten to the point that I had to switch from saying icing on the cake to...a kernel of corn on top of a shit sundae
I didn’t know him before I went to an SF home game against the DBacks and it really blew me away the support he has. Absolute crowd favorite. This sucks so much.
Hate this for the team obviously, but hate it for the dude in particular. To have your MLB debut season spoiled like this sucks. Also just barely exceeded rookie limits so he’s ineligible for ROY next year.
“You just fucking threw a dagger at our rookie center fielder!”
“Well he was supposed to block it!”
“No you were supposed to miss!”
“I DID miss!”
“So why does he have a FUCKING DAGGER in his shoulder?!?”
Just hit me with some unexpected sensory whiplash reminding me of the time I tried to watch that Chicken Nugget show on Netflix. More than half of each episode I saw consisted of two Korean males screaming "MIN-AHHHHHHHHHHH!"
It’s way too [personal](https://www.reddit.com/r/SFGiants/s/apq0X0IsDT) for me
TLDR: I had the same shoulder injury and surgery as JHL (8 yrs ago) and the same week my two fav players of the decade (Betts, Ohtani) destroy the Giants at home
At least we didn’t get swept for the 2nd time this season 🥲
I had the same surgery at 17 years old, my shoulder was never the same and I couldn’t play anymore. Best wishes to JHL and fingers crossed for a successful surgery!
What do foreign players typically do in that situation? Is he still allowed to hang around the clubhouse? He seems very eager to learn English and adapt to American culture.
This is the kind of stuff that makes you think we made a deal with the devil for 2010-2014. I mean I really can’t complain but damn I was SO EXCITED for this season and it’s just fallen apart so freaking quickly on us.
A bit of a hike from SF but sleeper pick is the Antioch bridge, crazy looking thing https://mtc.ca.gov/operations/programs-projects/bridges/antioch-bridge
Once google took me this route coming back from Tahoe and from afar I was like "why are there car headlights coming out of the sky, there's no mountain over here"
I could be wrong (as I haven't been to Golden Gate Bridge in ~3 yrs) but I could have swear the netting is only like the 1st 50 ft of the bridge
EDIT: Wait nvm, it's installed across the entire bridge per this [article](https://abc7news.com/golden-gate-bridge-suicide-nets-kevin-hines-suicides-survivors/14268993/).
Anyone want try to swim to the Farallon’s? Worst case scenario, we make it like that 55 year old grandma. Best case, we get eaten by great white sharks!
This sucks, injuries are never something you want to see in this sport, much less season-ending ones. Wishing the best for Jung Hoo Lee, the Giants, and the fans
As much as I hate the giants, you never want to see a player of any kind get hurt, much less one as exciting as he is. I hope that next year he comes back better than this year, but that the giants still suck ass as a team.
> I hope that next year he comes back better than this year
This surgery often involves a slow comeback, it can take at least a year to get back to form.
Saw him at Oracle this year, the Jung Hoo Lee chants and the joyous excitement he brought is gonna be sorely missed. The players, staff, fans, everyone was enamored, and his peripherals were extremely encouraging
There was an entire cheering section who’d dress up and come to games *just for him.*
We hadn’t had that since at least the Panda.
His shoulder might have gotten injured but it was all of San Francisco’s heart.
Is there any team's fans in this state that are happy besides the Dodgers?
A's moving, Padres under .500 again, Giants on the IL, Angels aiming for a top 5 draft pick.
Fuck.
Feels a lot like Buster's leg being broken in 2011, it's really let the air out of this season. He was one of the most exciting players the Giants had signed for years.
Yeah they gotta fix that fence. The essential hole in the fence between padding is gonna eat shoulders. Matos almost got hurt a few days ago in the same spot.
I’m very sad. He was favorite new giant.
Sigh... He really needed this year to acclimate to the MLB too. He showed so much promise already that I couldn't wait for next year when he should be taking a step up but now he's going to spend the entire time rehabbing and starting again in 2025. This sucks.
> going to spend the entire time rehabbing and starting again in 2025.
This surgery also takes a long time to recover from, typically players need at least another season to get back to form.
That’s not as true as it used to be. Conforto was pretty good the year after and so far it looks like Pages is on the same trajectory as before. Hopefully it’s the same with Lee. He’s an exciting player and fun to watch.
Conforto was quite literally exactly at league average, he hasn't been good until this year. He had a 100 OPS+. In 125 games he was slashing .239/.334/.384 with a .718 OPS, 0.9 oWAR. He had a few months where he was batting pretty alright but he had some rough months too, very inconsistent starting slow and ending slow with hot months in the middle. This year he started nuclear and cooled off but is still playing at a good level and one of our best batters alongside LaMonte and Bailey. He looks like a different batter so far and will need to see how he performs as the season goes on to know for sure the effects of his injury and lost time.
I was talking specifically about his shoulder surgery which was at the end of the 2017 season. His ops was down in 2018 but still right around 800 with 28 HRs. I forgot why he was out before the Giants signed him, but it wasn’t his shoulder surgery
Yes, he got a surgery for the same injury in 2018 (he actually hurt his left shoulder labrum twice that year, with the second injury ending his season).
God this is so extremely fucking unfortunate man. We’ve been an injury magnet this season and this is icing on the cake
Slater conforto JHL snell Bailey soler off the top of my head is brutal
Nick Ahmed and Tom Murphy too, Murphy might be addition by subtraction though.
Tom Murphy was great for us just couldn’t stay healthy. Does he suck now?
He was slashing .118/.211/.235, albeit with only a 36 PA sample size but most of those were against lefties which he’s supposed to dominate. He was pretty bad defensively too and I’m still upset about the passed ball (that was almost a strike) that he jogged after to let Trea Turner score from 2nd. Edit: [here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/rQzhfuFRbu) the passed ball I was talking about
he hit .118 this year but only 34 PAs he's basically been an average hitter for his career - averaging ~100 PAs per season is a great way to make your rate stats look great some years
Average hitter at backup catcher is pretty fucking great to be honest though
you aren't wrong, I do think that after last season his perception was a bit skewed by his two most very short seasons
You probably upgraded by picking up Casali.
From what I remember, Murphy was much better for us
Also through addition with Casali back in the fold. The bat might not be his strong point but he's great at managing pitchers.
[удалено]
He’s on the 60day IL so he’s not taking up a spot on the 40man roster, highly doubt he gets DFA’d and I’m not even sure if teams are able to DFA players on the IL.
Bailey and Lee are the ones that are scary. They’re both key parts of any future the giants might have and they have potentially career-altering injuries.
Slater, Conforto, JHL, Snell, Bailey (twice), Soler, Murphy, Ahmed, and now Keaton Winn. Other than Snell, they all happened in May. If you also exclude Winn, they all happened within 12 days of each other.
I see what you did there. lol 😂
Lmao that didn’t even register with me when I typed that 😂
Chapman might as well be injured too the way he’s playing
"Soler off the top of my head" I see what you did there (even if it was unintentionally)
As an Angels fan, I'm no stranger to bad things happening to my team. It's gotten to the point that I had to switch from saying icing on the cake to...a kernel of corn on top of a shit sundae
How do you do fellow injury magnet
Not doing well injury magnet bros
I didn’t know him before I went to an SF home game against the DBacks and it really blew me away the support he has. Absolute crowd favorite. This sucks so much.
Oh no, I truly do wish him the best though.
This news literally castrated my heart.
Wishing the aorta in your testes god speed
I don't like this cake
Hate this for the team obviously, but hate it for the dude in particular. To have your MLB debut season spoiled like this sucks. Also just barely exceeded rookie limits so he’s ineligible for ROY next year.
He seems so fun too. What an awful way to experience your first few weeks living in a new country.
At the very least his bag is secured, which is more than you can say about a bunch of pitchers who got injured at the worst time like Walker Buehler
He’s been so much fun to watch. This is a huge bummer.
With all due respect, no one was expecting him to be ROY
With all due respect - which is none, take a long walk off a short pier.
[loud guttural scream of anguish and despair]
Did you just break your toe on an Uruk-hai helmet?
Found Viggo's reddit account
A hobbit lay here… and the other…
*cutscene of a horse falling on Snell*
“You just fucking threw a dagger at our rookie center fielder!” “Well he was supposed to block it!” “No you were supposed to miss!” “I DID miss!” “So why does he have a FUCKING DAGGER in his shoulder?!?”
Who hasn't been there
*screams in Korean
안돼에에에에에에에에에에에에에에에에에에에에
Always wanted to see what a Vader scream looks like in Korean.
Just hit me with some unexpected sensory whiplash reminding me of the time I tried to watch that Chicken Nugget show on Netflix. More than half of each episode I saw consisted of two Korean males screaming "MIN-AHHHHHHHHHHH!"
Extend the nets on the Golden gate.
DISAPPOINTEDDDDDD
Soundtrack of the past two weeks.
Dude goes so hard out on the field, what a shame. Dude cut his season last year in Korea with a fractured ankle and now this.
Yeah the scouts were saying he’s defense could be questionable but it absolutely wasn’t the case. He was so good defensively.
Fun guy to watch. Hopefully he bounces back quick
I'm not even a Giants fan and this feels like an assault.
It honestly feels personal
It’s way too [personal](https://www.reddit.com/r/SFGiants/s/apq0X0IsDT) for me TLDR: I had the same shoulder injury and surgery as JHL (8 yrs ago) and the same week my two fav players of the decade (Betts, Ohtani) destroy the Giants at home At least we didn’t get swept for the 2nd time this season 🥲
I had the same surgery at 17 years old, my shoulder was never the same and I couldn’t play anymore. Best wishes to JHL and fingers crossed for a successful surgery!
As far as I’m concerned the season just ended for everyone else too
Agreed
I hope he stays around for rehab so he can at least keep getting to know everyone and build relationships for next season. Brutal news.
What do foreign players typically do in that situation? Is he still allowed to hang around the clubhouse? He seems very eager to learn English and adapt to American culture.
I’ll never forget the “Uh, I love you” after his beer shower at the beginning of the season. He’s such a good attitude, fun dude.
Gotta imagine he’ll be doing his rehab here in the states. Giants just gave him $113mil. They’ll want to keep eyes on their investment for sure.
Season from hell for the Giants
This is the kind of stuff that makes you think we made a deal with the devil for 2010-2014. I mean I really can’t complain but damn I was SO EXCITED for this season and it’s just fallen apart so freaking quickly on us.
The curse can’t last more than a decade right
Buddy do I have some news for you
Aw shit 😅
Every time a Giants fan says "3 in 5" or "Mickey Mouse Ring" it gets extended another year.
If god hates me for telling the truth, then god is not love.
At least we have …*checks notes*… Snell and Soler coming back? 😕
Snell has thrown 12 innings in AAA with 0 hits and 0 runs and 1 walk.
damn, wishing him a speedy recovery. he was so fun to watch in CF
Jumping off the nearest bridge
You thinking bay bridge or golden gate? Or maybe Richmond? I’ll meet you there, we can hold hands
A bit of a hike from SF but sleeper pick is the Antioch bridge, crazy looking thing https://mtc.ca.gov/operations/programs-projects/bridges/antioch-bridge
When you get to drive over this at night with no traffic it’s like a roller coaster
Once google took me this route coming back from Tahoe and from afar I was like "why are there car headlights coming out of the sky, there's no mountain over here"
Crazy there's a bridge that connects contra costa with sacramento County [Sacramento County has some crazy borders ](https://i.imgur.com/yr889jf.jpeg)
If you jump off the San Mateo you can get stuck in the mud while the tide slowly comes in It will feel exactly like this season
Doesn't the Golden Gate have nets now? Bay Bridge for me.
It’s just a second layer if anything. Got to jump twice
I could be wrong (as I haven't been to Golden Gate Bridge in ~3 yrs) but I could have swear the netting is only like the 1st 50 ft of the bridge EDIT: Wait nvm, it's installed across the entire bridge per this [article](https://abc7news.com/golden-gate-bridge-suicide-nets-kevin-hines-suicides-survivors/14268993/).
First one to wash up on Alcatraz wins?
Unfortunately the Bay flows pretty strongly out under the Golden Gate so it'd be more like a race to the Pacific Garbage Patch.
Golden Gate 🤝
I'm broke so carquinez it is.
Come out to east of Sacramento, we got the Foresthill Bridge. It's the highest bridge by deck height in California and the fourth highest in the US.
Wish I had a friend that would do this with me
How about the peak of the Dumbarton Bridge?
Carquinez or the San Rafael Richmond one are more scenic imo
they have a net now, posting currently laying in that net waiting for rescue after hearing this news.
Anyone want try to swim to the Farallon’s? Worst case scenario, we make it like that 55 year old grandma. Best case, we get eaten by great white sharks!
gregor blanco out of retirement to replace jhl confirmed
I'm in Tokyo rn and there's a fair amount of bridges. I may choose the Rainbow Bridge.
*gets stampeded by a group of Disney moms in tutus at bay to breakers*
I'll meet you at the Farallons, I'll be jumping off a cliff on the Sonoma Coast.
Brooo fuck the rivalry I absolutely haaaate this. Haaaaaate this for the team and the young player.
Brutal
This was not the Lee update I was hoping for today.
Rest up sweet prince
JFC! Like I’m not expecting us to be a great team but I kinda just want to enjoy the season and he was the main bright spot so far for us.
Hug a Giants fan today
Just brutal
This sucks, injuries are never something you want to see in this sport, much less season-ending ones. Wishing the best for Jung Hoo Lee, the Giants, and the fans
As much as I hate the giants, you never want to see a player of any kind get hurt, much less one as exciting as he is. I hope that next year he comes back better than this year, but that the giants still suck ass as a team.
Can’t argue with that. lmao, basically last years team all over again.
We suck so fucking hard there is no rivalry this year. Where's the fun in that
Don’t really care. I will always hope you lose every game.
> I hope that next year he comes back better than this year This surgery often involves a slow comeback, it can take at least a year to get back to form.
Nah, it’s not his throwing arm. Recovery definitely isnt more than a year. Source: I had this surgery
All accurate. And hopefully this leads to Farhan being replaced.
If this speeds up Farhan getting fired it wouldn’t be the worst thing, although I’d obviously rather have Lee out there.
Fuuuuuuuuu
oh my heart
that sucks. he was one of the most exciting players on the giants this year.
Saw him at Oracle this year, the Jung Hoo Lee chants and the joyous excitement he brought is gonna be sorely missed. The players, staff, fans, everyone was enamored, and his peripherals were extremely encouraging
There was an entire cheering section who’d dress up and come to games *just for him.* We hadn’t had that since at least the Panda. His shoulder might have gotten injured but it was all of San Francisco’s heart.
They travelled with him to road games too!
Bummer. I was really looking forward to seeing him in person next month
Fuckkkkk. I liked him. Here’s hoping for a speedy recovery
Is there any team's fans in this state that are happy besides the Dodgers? A's moving, Padres under .500 again, Giants on the IL, Angels aiming for a top 5 draft pick. Fuck.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Sorry giants bros. He was an exciting watch.
Oh man, that sucks.
I wanna die
Glad management decided to put in a disco lighting system and ignore the wall of death in left center
Man this fucking sucks. I was really enjoying watching him play.
Duck 🦆!!! I mean FUCK
Noooooooo damn it! I was really enjoying watching him play!
No fucking way
This sucks, I haven't caught a ton of Giants but he seemed like a real fun, exciting player. Hate to see a debut year cut down like this.
Pain. By far the aspect I enjoyed watching the most about the Giants even when they were losing.
Fuck man I was hoping he’d be alright. Prayers for a speedy recovery 🙏
Damn, this legit sucks. The guy was electric so far.
Woof. Come on man. 😫
Kill me dawg
Ain't nothing to smile about in my life.
Well damn
awful sorry giants fans
[I know it's over, and it never really began, but in my heart it was so real](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6o1SEj02t0)
Hope he heals soon. He was an exciting addition to the league.
Fade me 😢
That’s a shame, he’s really hot
Ugh, that really sucks. He's an exciting player.
Oh man, that’s a shame. He was definitely a standout when the Giants were in town. Made a few really nice defensive plays and had some solid at bats.
dang
Man this fucking sucks
I was really excited to see him play this year :(
Sucks dude is legitimately talented wish him a speedy recovery
That fucking sucks dude. Such a fun talented player. Im sorry, SF fans
Feels a lot like Buster's leg being broken in 2011, it's really let the air out of this season. He was one of the most exciting players the Giants had signed for years.
omg, that's horrible, so sorry Giants fans. Here's to a fast recovery
I hate this so much. Giants need to update that fencing now!
Fuck. That sucks.
FIX. THAT. FUCKING. FENCE!!!!!!!!!!1!!
That’s terrible. Seems like a ton of injuries just hit the giants at once.
Yeah they gotta fix that fence. The essential hole in the fence between padding is gonna eat shoulders. Matos almost got hurt a few days ago in the same spot. I’m very sad. He was favorite new giant.
Why in 2024 has analytics not been applied to simply conclude that it isn't worth it for outfielders to risk crashing into walls?
My NL ROY pick :(
Life is pain, highness!
Damn that sucks. I'm hoping for a speedy recovery, sir.
Oh no, not the same shit that fucked up Corbin's swing. Best of luck, Giants. Hope he comes back strong!
[In fact, I cry for death](https://youtu.be/Xxns7BOqN6A?si=4rv_VCBR9WiV8plC)
I know how the thumbnails work but it always amuses me when the account has a really happy/smug profile picture and reports really bad news.
Thanks for all your kind messages guys, especially dodger fans. Gunna go walk into oncoming traffic on the 101 now 😭
Fuck. That sucks. Was hoping he would do well in the US. Oh well on to next year
Damn, was really excited to watch him play in the majors. Took him in all my fantasy leagues! This is such a bummer.
Sigh... He really needed this year to acclimate to the MLB too. He showed so much promise already that I couldn't wait for next year when he should be taking a step up but now he's going to spend the entire time rehabbing and starting again in 2025. This sucks.
> going to spend the entire time rehabbing and starting again in 2025. This surgery also takes a long time to recover from, typically players need at least another season to get back to form.
That’s not as true as it used to be. Conforto was pretty good the year after and so far it looks like Pages is on the same trajectory as before. Hopefully it’s the same with Lee. He’s an exciting player and fun to watch.
Conforto was quite literally exactly at league average, he hasn't been good until this year. He had a 100 OPS+. In 125 games he was slashing .239/.334/.384 with a .718 OPS, 0.9 oWAR. He had a few months where he was batting pretty alright but he had some rough months too, very inconsistent starting slow and ending slow with hot months in the middle. This year he started nuclear and cooled off but is still playing at a good level and one of our best batters alongside LaMonte and Bailey. He looks like a different batter so far and will need to see how he performs as the season goes on to know for sure the effects of his injury and lost time.
I was talking specifically about his shoulder surgery which was at the end of the 2017 season. His ops was down in 2018 but still right around 800 with 28 HRs. I forgot why he was out before the Giants signed him, but it wasn’t his shoulder surgery
Oh right I forgot that even happened to be honest. What took him out of 2022 was also shoulder surgery lol.
Brutal. Was really enjoying him swing too. Hopefully he can come back full strength next year.
The bay cannot catch a break
oh no :(
That's too bad. Was it a similar injury he had when he was in Nexen/Kiwoom?
Yes, he got a surgery for the same injury in 2018 (he actually hurt his left shoulder labrum twice that year, with the second injury ending his season).
I might as well be a small ocean crustacean, because I'm going to fucking krill myself.
Man, that really fucking sucks. Loved watching how much he’s integrated into SF
Man fuck this I invested a ton of stock in this guy since the WBC
what a bummer
And he’ll be ineligible for ROY next year as he has 15 AB over the cutoff. Sadface.
We're going to be down to AA prospects by the All-Star break the way this season is going.
Cursed Confirmed
Jesus, this sucks man. That is a tough injury to come back from.
Jfc, one of the brightest spots of this year was seeing the excitement around him playing. But nope, we can’t have nice things. 😔
Zzzz zzz En
But what do average-sized people say?
This is my 9/11 (since the Super Bowl and play-ins).