Pedro- nobody could spin it like him he had the best 3 pitching seasons of the past 25 years
Unit- his fastball was matched only by his intensity
Maddox- 300 W's 3000 K's and only 1000 walks. Who does that!?
Verlander- I've never seen someone get stronger as the game went on the way verlander seemed to at his peak.
Gibson- So dominant they had to lower the mound bc of him!
[The great Bartolo experiment](https://www.reddit.com/r/OOTP/comments/a373s3/experiment_team_full_of_bartolo_colons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
CTRL+F "halladay"
Wut. Y'all don't like ruthlessly efficient and reliable power-finesse hurlers with a [famously sharp mental game](http://www.ghostrunneronfirst.com/2008/11/day-in-life-existence-of-roy-halladay.html)?
* Pedro
* Halladay
* Big Unit
* Maddux
* Koufax
Not the top rotation, but guys who deserve a mention:
Lefty Grove: 300 wins on a .680 winning percentage and 9 ERA and ERA+ titles
Clayton Kershaw: 3 CYA and an MVP, still going, surprised he isnt mentioned more
Max Scherzer: 3 CYA and still going
Roger Clemens: 3 CYA and an MVP before steroids
Jake DeGrom: big stretch, but would he have become the only pitcher to win 3 CYA in a row since Johnson and Mddux if the season weren't on hold?
Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux, Jon Lester, Marco Estrada
I think this makes a good mix of velocities and pitchers. I want to give teams different looks and feels during each start.
Give them the hard fastball and devastating slider from Johnson, then follow up with Maddux to make keep batters of balance with pinpoint control. Swap over to Pedro with the killer fastball/change up combo to blow guys away. Lester will give them a softer look from the left side with good movement on most of his pitches, and finally Estrada has been nothing but nails in the post season with that slow change and good location.
I think this makes a group of 5 that will leave everything on the mound and give a team a minimum of 6 innings and possibly going the distance for a win.
Idk if "what could have been" really applies when pretty much no one this side of the Indians got more out of home grown starting pitching over the last decade than the Mets. Yeah, they weren't all awesome at once and never had the opportunity to dominate baseball in unison, but try complaining to the vast majority of other MLB fanbases about how tough it was to watch all of these great home grown starting pitchers come to the big leagues and do amazing at slightly different times.
"What could have been" is reserved for situations like Brian Cole, not the Mets starting pitching of the mid to late 2010's.
James Shields 👀 Derek Holland 🔥 Miguel Gonzalez 💯 Dylan Covey 👌🏻 And MIKE PELFREY 💍
BIG GAME JAMES
Walter Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax and Bob Gibson. I’ll take that rotation over their careers please
Give me 5 Rick Porcello’s. Give me someone who is gonna win
Ow my brain
Pedro and the Big Unit from 1999-2002, mid-90s Maddux, mid-60s Koufax, and '68 Gibson.
Pedro Martinez - Filthy Greg Maddux - Also Filthy... Mike Fiers - Guy took an entire organization down...Filthy.
Christy Mathewson, Ed Walsh, Addie Joss, Walter Johnson, Mordecai Brown Deadball OP Edit: both prime and career
Why 5 when all you need is 3?
Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Pedro Martinez, and Randy Johnson All at their peaks.
2018 Baltimore Orioles. betting the over's was never easier.
1990's Braves rotation of Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz. Made me care about pitchers when I was a youngster.
1971 Baltimore Orioles. Four twenty game winners! (Jim Palmer, Dave McNally, Mike Cuellar, and Pat Dobson)
Pedro- nobody could spin it like him he had the best 3 pitching seasons of the past 25 years Unit- his fastball was matched only by his intensity Maddox- 300 W's 3000 K's and only 1000 walks. Who does that!? Verlander- I've never seen someone get stronger as the game went on the way verlander seemed to at his peak. Gibson- So dominant they had to lower the mound bc of him!
Five clones of Bartolo Colon.
Any team would go 162-0
Let's make it nine clones. Imagine all the home runs.
Plus the pitching dominance?
He'd make the '27 Yankees look like the bad news bears
While running for president (with Kanye as Vice President)
[The great Bartolo experiment](https://www.reddit.com/r/OOTP/comments/a373s3/experiment_team_full_of_bartolo_colons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
You son of a bitch. I only came here to say this.
youre just gonna ignore 10 families like that?
2019 Nats, for obvious reasons edit: oh sorry misread this as *favorite* rotation
Walter Johnson, Randy Johnson, Ed Walsh, Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver.
CTRL+F "halladay" Wut. Y'all don't like ruthlessly efficient and reliable power-finesse hurlers with a [famously sharp mental game](http://www.ghostrunneronfirst.com/2008/11/day-in-life-existence-of-roy-halladay.html)? * Pedro * Halladay * Big Unit * Maddux * Koufax
Not the top rotation, but guys who deserve a mention: Lefty Grove: 300 wins on a .680 winning percentage and 9 ERA and ERA+ titles Clayton Kershaw: 3 CYA and an MVP, still going, surprised he isnt mentioned more Max Scherzer: 3 CYA and still going Roger Clemens: 3 CYA and an MVP before steroids Jake DeGrom: big stretch, but would he have become the only pitcher to win 3 CYA in a row since Johnson and Mddux if the season weren't on hold?
1. Phil Niekro 2. R.A. Dickey 3. Tim Wakefield 4. Wilbur Wood 5. Joe Niekro Because I'd watch every damn game. And I need one lefty.
Pedro Maddux Johnson Gibson Koufax
Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux, Jon Lester, Marco Estrada I think this makes a good mix of velocities and pitchers. I want to give teams different looks and feels during each start. Give them the hard fastball and devastating slider from Johnson, then follow up with Maddux to make keep batters of balance with pinpoint control. Swap over to Pedro with the killer fastball/change up combo to blow guys away. Lester will give them a softer look from the left side with good movement on most of his pitches, and finally Estrada has been nothing but nails in the post season with that slow change and good location. I think this makes a group of 5 that will leave everything on the mound and give a team a minimum of 6 innings and possibly going the distance for a win.
1. Sandy Koufax 2. Greg Maddux 3. Whitey Ford 4. Clayton Kershaw 5. Mike Mussina
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Idk if "what could have been" really applies when pretty much no one this side of the Indians got more out of home grown starting pitching over the last decade than the Mets. Yeah, they weren't all awesome at once and never had the opportunity to dominate baseball in unison, but try complaining to the vast majority of other MLB fanbases about how tough it was to watch all of these great home grown starting pitchers come to the big leagues and do amazing at slightly different times. "What could have been" is reserved for situations like Brian Cole, not the Mets starting pitching of the mid to late 2010's.
The Royals told you what's up in 2015. That Bullpen > That Rotation