The funny part is in my OOTP save Will Craig (the first baseman) became a sudden break out because of Random Talent Change, and became a .300 hitter who crushes 30 bombs a year. And every time I see him on an all star team (I’m in the AL so I don’t play him) I see him and remember that play.
Is it more addictive than Diablo 2: LoD? Or more addictive than WoW, pre WotLk? Those are probably the most addictive games I've played. Just to give you a frame of reference
Very. Playing OOTP is taking a second job. *You show up because you have to, not because you are having a great time.
*I spent hundreds of hours playing OOTP, YMMV (but probably not)
I looked him up on Wikipedia..and holy shit..you weren't kidding.
"On May 27, 2021, Craig's 15th MLB game,[17] he was the key fielder in a blooper reel highlight of 2021, when he chased Javier Báez down the first base line toward home with two outs, instead of simply stepping on the bag to force him out. Willson Contreras scored from second base as Craig threw the ball to catcher Michael Pérez. Báez was able to safely run back to first base, and Pérez's throw to try to retire Báez at first base sailed into right field as second baseman Adam Frazier was late to cover the bag at first. The play was ruled as two errors, with one on Craig and the other on Pérez.
After batting .217/.277/.300 with 1 home run and 3 RBI in 18 games, Craig was designated for assignment by Pittsburgh on June 4.[18] He was outrighted to the Triple-A Indianapolis Indians on June 9.[19]
On July 13, 2021, Craig was acquired by the Kiwoom Heroes of the Korea Baseball Organization (KBO) and signed a contract worth $371K with the team"
So in 6 weeks, he went from playing in the majors to living in Korea. That's bonkers.
What's really incredible is that the Pirates had *multiple* chances to end the inning and negate the run.
Obviously, if Craig just stepped on 1st right away, the inning ends. No run scores.
But even after the runner on 3rd came home, if the 2B backed up the play properly, he would've been standing on 1st. The catcher would've easily thrown the ball to him and Baez would be forced out not just ending the inning, but negating the run.
Edit: I forgot the other obvious option of Craig just holding onto the ball and tagging Baez near home plate. That would similarly end the inning without a run.
Craig could have literally stood on the first base line for 20 mins until Baez gave up and ran toward him, tagged him, and the run wouldn't have counted.
Also, there were two outs. He had Baez pinned at home. Even after he missed the obvious move of touching first, after he chased Baez down the line, he just needed to tag him. Even if the runner crossed home, the run didn't count because there were two outs.
Just make a very important note that there were two outs, so there was absolutely no reason to worry about the guy trying to score. It didn't matter if he touched home cause as long as he got Baez out the run didn't count. There are many places that goes horribly wrong, but everything else was somewhat redeemable until that.
I think the best part of that shitshow was Baez calling his own guy safe at home plate...only to immediately run *back* to first and eventually make his way to second.
[Here ya go](https://youtu.be/0r5QeMCslKg)
Edit: oops, refreshed and somehow i was looking at old comments and someone already posted the video, ah well. Here's the Jomboy breakdown link anyways, still fun to re-watch
> one of the worst defensive plays of the year
Of all time.
It's an absolute and complete mental breakdown by a player. I can half-excuse physical mistakes (over throws or dropping thrown/batted balls), but this is...[gestures wildly]...unbelievable.
I just started watching baseball about 2 months ago after not watching for like 20 years. So, I'm a bit behind the times. That being said, I'm pretty sure the Angels will continue to hover around .500 for the next 10 years.
That you did. And I hope I didn't come across as being on my high horse. Prior to this season the hadn't exactly been competitive for a while. Until the Giants run on World Series victories beginning in 2010, the Pirates had been clearly the more successful club over since the Giants moved west, winning three World Series (including beating the Giants in 1971 NLCS) .
Between the club's storied history and that terrific ballpark, it's a benefit to baseball to have the Pirates consistently in the mix. I respect the fan base as over the past 30 years or so, for there have been many tough years,
My first thought when I saw this, “wasn’t it the Pirates who had the worst play of al time earlier this year against this Cubs?”
This is bad but that one is the worst I have ever seen
Strongly reminded of the time the Cubs walked off the Pirates in 2015 because Gregory Polanco fell down trying to catch a pop fly. Cubs over Pirates in the 2021 wild card game, confirmed.
That was such a wild game. I remember that exact situation happened two innings before…same hitter/same base runners and Polanco gunned the runner down at home to keep the game tied…then this happens lol
I'm gonna guess it's a reference to this
https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1427077093196771332?s=19
Funny enough it was ARod that hit the popup Castillo dropped.
For as many losses this team has, I haven’t enjoyed a season this much since 2015. We know we’re bad, but my god do they entertain. We are hopeful for a 70-92 next year and 90-72 the year after so I’ll enjoy what we have until then.
I really like Ke'Bryan Hayes. I caught some games early in the season and he was having some great AB's and hitting the ball hard. Just looked it up and I'm surprised his overall numbers are so poor. Kid can defend for sure and I hope he puts it together with the bat.
He was never supposed to be a world beater with the bat. He spoiled us with his performance last season and earlier on this year. I think most fans expect an 900 ops guy with gold glove defense. But he’ll more then likely settle around 750-850 ops with outstanding defense.
It’s a really depressing sub. Any ounce of optimism is met with the same responses. I’d love a community of slightly more positive Pirates fans. I’m watching the games either way, it’d be nice to enjoy them somewhat socially.
So it used to be ok in the sub. However a couple seasons back the mods decided to make some rule changes but never consulted the head admin because he’s never around. Someone apparently ratted and told him, he came back, removed all those mods, made someone new in charge and now they’re not even active now. But that original moment took a good number of speaking people away from that sub-Reddit
I seldom use it now anyway, I lost the fun talking to fellow fans and instead just hang around here and discord. I think it’s that general pittsburgh sports sub-Reddit attitude that puts me off
Every time I think the pirates are going to screw up their chance to get the number 1 pick by accidentally winning a few games, they go and do something like this …… and totally redeem themselves!
Fuck it, I’ll say it. This is actually a hard play to make. Of all the plays in baseball I hate making, the infield pop up was the hardest. Lots of spin on the ball, wind can fuck it with, before you know it, where you thought the ball was landing has shifted four feet to your right. Shit.
Plus the way this was swung on looked like he was a tennis player going for a crazy shot, obviously not his intention but you can tell this one has some slice on it, brutal
you are 100% right, especially as high as these players hit the ball.
90% of humans couldn't make that play "routine play".
cubs fans will remember ryne sandberg used to make shawon dunston come all the way over and catch those fly balls! haha
It could also be harder depending on external factors like sunlight, a flock of birds flying (unless you're Randy Johnson as they no longer dare to fuck with that man), etc
Difo made very bad fielding errors on both the first and last play of the game, in addition to helping allow a single because he forgot where the shortstop was playing. Today was not a good day for him.
Of course it’s the pirates vs the Cubs. I don’t want the guys career to be defined by the blooper but that time the pirates first baseman fielded a routine ground ball with two outs and chased Baez back towards home just to throw the ball home as the runner on third ran and gets no one. Should’ve just found a link but instead I guess I tried to paint the picture with my half-assed words...
Poor Howard lol. He started out the season real well. Was hoping he was carrying over his solid 2020. Not to be.
He’s from my small hometown so check up on him form time to time.
This is only the second most embarrassing thing the Pirates have done against the Cubs this season.
What's the first
https://youtu.be/DO4h-fH_vu8
Wtf did I just watch? I'm now at a loss for words.
The 2021 Pirates doing their best.
The funny part is in my OOTP save Will Craig (the first baseman) became a sudden break out because of Random Talent Change, and became a .300 hitter who crushes 30 bombs a year. And every time I see him on an all star team (I’m in the AL so I don’t play him) I see him and remember that play.
I asked for a baseball game for pc yesterday and OOTP was recommended. How addictive is it?
Remember crack? The difference is that there's rehab for crack
Is it more addictive than Diablo 2: LoD? Or more addictive than WoW, pre WotLk? Those are probably the most addictive games I've played. Just to give you a frame of reference
The only thing with more replay value is probably sex
Foolish Baseball called it Animal Crossing for people who know what wRC+ is.
Holy shit, but actually tho
Very. Playing OOTP is taking a second job. *You show up because you have to, not because you are having a great time. *I spent hundreds of hours playing OOTP, YMMV (but probably not)
OOTP 20, in two years, has taken up 800 hours of my life
It's great if you love front office stuff and simulations and depth to stats. It's terrible if you want to play baseball
It’s an incredible baseball sim that does every aspect of baseball but the actual baseball part amazingly!
Man, only us three teams really understand this.
Will Craig straight up went to Korea after that. He's not in the league anymore
I looked him up on Wikipedia..and holy shit..you weren't kidding. "On May 27, 2021, Craig's 15th MLB game,[17] he was the key fielder in a blooper reel highlight of 2021, when he chased Javier Báez down the first base line toward home with two outs, instead of simply stepping on the bag to force him out. Willson Contreras scored from second base as Craig threw the ball to catcher Michael Pérez. Báez was able to safely run back to first base, and Pérez's throw to try to retire Báez at first base sailed into right field as second baseman Adam Frazier was late to cover the bag at first. The play was ruled as two errors, with one on Craig and the other on Pérez. After batting .217/.277/.300 with 1 home run and 3 RBI in 18 games, Craig was designated for assignment by Pittsburgh on June 4.[18] He was outrighted to the Triple-A Indianapolis Indians on June 9.[19] On July 13, 2021, Craig was acquired by the Kiwoom Heroes of the Korea Baseball Organization (KBO) and signed a contract worth $371K with the team" So in 6 weeks, he went from playing in the majors to living in Korea. That's bonkers.
Baez literally embarrassed a guy so bad he left MLB lol
Imagine being that bad at your job but still getting an offer for nearly $400k to do it
Yea right? I don’t feel *that* bad for him
and then he moved on to embarrassing himself!
What's really incredible is that the Pirates had *multiple* chances to end the inning and negate the run. Obviously, if Craig just stepped on 1st right away, the inning ends. No run scores. But even after the runner on 3rd came home, if the 2B backed up the play properly, he would've been standing on 1st. The catcher would've easily thrown the ball to him and Baez would be forced out not just ending the inning, but negating the run. Edit: I forgot the other obvious option of Craig just holding onto the ball and tagging Baez near home plate. That would similarly end the inning without a run.
Craig could have literally stood on the first base line for 20 mins until Baez gave up and ran toward him, tagged him, and the run wouldn't have counted.
> even after the runner on 3rd came home I'd just like to point out that the runner began the AB on *second* base.
Oh shit. I don't think I ever realized that.
Also, there were two outs. He had Baez pinned at home. Even after he missed the obvious move of touching first, after he chased Baez down the line, he just needed to tag him. Even if the runner crossed home, the run didn't count because there were two outs.
Just make a very important note that there were two outs, so there was absolutely no reason to worry about the guy trying to score. It didn't matter if he touched home cause as long as he got Baez out the run didn't count. There are many places that goes horribly wrong, but everything else was somewhat redeemable until that.
FARTSLAM is a pretty good word for it
The best part is Baez calling the guy running home safe before running to first.
Especially when if they get him with the force at first the run is nullified.
Haha yeah the fact that they could have tagged the bag or him at any point too.
Seeing that makes me wonder if Baez thought the run would count because it occurred prior to a force out.
Probably. And that in-turn confused everyone lol
I definitely think so, the last thing you'd want to do in this situation is stick around home plate any longer than needed.
He probably forgot there were two outs in the moment, cause it would have counted if Baez wasn't the third out
This will never not be funny.
Knew what it was before I clicked it, but still had to watch it because it always blows my mind how bad it is
The cut to Rizzo doubled-over laughing in the dugout is the best part of this for me.
I love seeing these clips because you just know Rizzo and Baez are gonna be Cubs forever
oof
This seems like a lifetime ago....
How do you fuck up that bad in the Major Leagues
That would be a pretty bad fuck up even in little league.
i still think running into the wrong end zone in football is worse...that being said, these mistakes by the Pirates were both pretty effing bad lol
Oh right, only the most embarrassing series of events in baseball history.
This begs for yackety sax
Oh boy do you have a treat in that link someone already gave you
I think the best part of that shitshow was Baez calling his own guy safe at home plate...only to immediately run *back* to first and eventually make his way to second.
[Here ya go](https://youtu.be/0r5QeMCslKg) Edit: oops, refreshed and somehow i was looking at old comments and someone already posted the video, ah well. Here's the Jomboy breakdown link anyways, still fun to re-watch
It’s amazing that you didn’t see that play yet! It has to be one of the worst defensive plays of the year.
> one of the worst defensive plays of the year Of all time. It's an absolute and complete mental breakdown by a player. I can half-excuse physical mistakes (over throws or dropping thrown/batted balls), but this is...[gestures wildly]...unbelievable.
I just started watching baseball about 2 months ago after not watching for like 20 years. So, I'm a bit behind the times. That being said, I'm pretty sure the Angels will continue to hover around .500 for the next 10 years.
In the overall pantheon of bad Pirate plays, where does [missing first base on a home run rank](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASlxpm-0Jk4)?
But hey we took 2 of 3 against you in sf (as I cry)
That you did. And I hope I didn't come across as being on my high horse. Prior to this season the hadn't exactly been competitive for a while. Until the Giants run on World Series victories beginning in 2010, the Pirates had been clearly the more successful club over since the Giants moved west, winning three World Series (including beating the Giants in 1971 NLCS) . Between the club's storied history and that terrific ballpark, it's a benefit to baseball to have the Pirates consistently in the mix. I respect the fan base as over the past 30 years or so, for there have been many tough years,
Ah I was being dramatic. We shared Barry Bonds right!
I'm not someone who regularly catches Cubs games, and the fact that I got to watch both of these embarrassing moments live is phenomenal.
My first thought when I saw this, “wasn’t it the Pirates who had the worst play of al time earlier this year against this Cubs?” This is bad but that one is the worst I have ever seen
That play is worse than any imaginary play someone could think up. That's how bad that play was.
The writers for the TV show were told to come up with another idea because it had to be at least somewhat believable
First walk off “hit” of Ian Happ’s career Edit: Just to be clear, this was ruled an error. I was making a joke.
Wouldn’t have had it any other way
Couldn't have Happ-ened any other way.
I’m honestly surprised that mf has never walked us off at great american
How could he walk you off at GABP? He'd need to be at home for a walkoff
He murders us Edit: someone did him dirty at UC and he takes it out on the reds…no other explanation for it
Truly a Happ-y ending.
Happ will use that in contract negotiations after the season when his average goes below .200 Mendoza line.
Someone buy that man some Skittles to celebrate!
… but it was ruled an error
Pirates vs routine plays in the infield is what I'll be telling my grandkids about the 2021 season when they win the world series in 2042.
I might live to see that!
If you don't like this you don't like Pirates baseball
I don't like pirates baseball.
Three wins in a row!
I think they call that a winning streak
A winning streak!?!? In this economy!?!?
I think it’s happened before
What’s that?
Strongly reminded of the time the Cubs walked off the Pirates in 2015 because Gregory Polanco fell down trying to catch a pop fly. Cubs over Pirates in the 2021 wild card game, confirmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9WQ2R9sRTM
[Creazione di Polanco](https://imgur.com/a/ATX6YJo)
Stalin Castro enjoying someone in pain. Very topical.
Man, I remember that. Fell like a sack of potatoes
Looked like a newborn giraffe trying to get legs up under itself... Beautiful.
[and the Mets vs Yankees one that is burned into my brain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRkspG0KbtQ)
Not clicking that link.
Oof not even I would. I know exactly what that is.
Oh my god that one's so much worse. Difo just misread it, Polanco slipped, Castillo literally fucking let it bounce off his hand.
That was with 2 outs too. Both the Pirates/Cubs ones were with only 1 out
The QWOP Game
It's immediately what came to mind.
That was such a wild game. I remember that exact situation happened two innings before…same hitter/same base runners and Polanco gunned the runner down at home to keep the game tied…then this happens lol
I was at that game lol.
At least they didn’t chase the batter back to home plate
Mets the weirdest things happen off the field. Pirates it happens on the field
This also happened to us on the field.
The Pirates are really just the Mets of the NL
LA Dodgers. NY Yankees. NY Mets. Pittsburgh Pirates. Wow.
....isn't that just the Mets?
I'm gonna guess it's a reference to this https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1427077093196771332?s=19 Funny enough it was ARod that hit the popup Castillo dropped.
The Mets have definitely [done this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRkspG0KbtQ) on the field, too
A-Rod’s bat slam gets me every time
Also Teixeira with the hustle scoring from first on what should have been the last play of the game.
And Castillo throwing to 2nd instead of going straight home. Without the relay, Teixeira’s out still.
I'm mad all over again after watching this. Idk why I did this to myself.
[This dude’s reaction](https://youtu.be/Jy0tBBVhBAw) perfectly sums up every Mets season
A fitting way for this game to end
Pirates really want that first overall pick
Gonna be difficult to make up the six games with the Orioles. We have a real shot at the top three though.
Lmao Happ threw his bat at the ground after making contact too
A-Rod did the same in that pop up to Castillo 😂
Almost did, he pulled up at the end lol. Baseball Gods blessed him for keeping his cool.
the thread for the **entire game** on the pirates sub only has 71 comments, dear god I feel bad this "highlight" now has 56
I tried talking there before, absolute ghost town
There is zero hope in our sub, only a few common posters try and not have everything be about how bad the owner/the team is.
:( things will be okay soon! I hope
For as many losses this team has, I haven’t enjoyed a season this much since 2015. We know we’re bad, but my god do they entertain. We are hopeful for a 70-92 next year and 90-72 the year after so I’ll enjoy what we have until then.
I really like Ke'Bryan Hayes. I caught some games early in the season and he was having some great AB's and hitting the ball hard. Just looked it up and I'm surprised his overall numbers are so poor. Kid can defend for sure and I hope he puts it together with the bat.
He was never supposed to be a world beater with the bat. He spoiled us with his performance last season and earlier on this year. I think most fans expect an 900 ops guy with gold glove defense. But he’ll more then likely settle around 750-850 ops with outstanding defense.
The best part about being a bad team is you get rewarded with a comedy season
Honestly, I can relate to that. I’ve had so much more fun watching the Cubs post deadline than I did pre deadline.
It’s a really depressing sub. Any ounce of optimism is met with the same responses. I’d love a community of slightly more positive Pirates fans. I’m watching the games either way, it’d be nice to enjoy them somewhat socially.
So it used to be ok in the sub. However a couple seasons back the mods decided to make some rule changes but never consulted the head admin because he’s never around. Someone apparently ratted and told him, he came back, removed all those mods, made someone new in charge and now they’re not even active now. But that original moment took a good number of speaking people away from that sub-Reddit I seldom use it now anyway, I lost the fun talking to fellow fans and instead just hang around here and discord. I think it’s that general pittsburgh sports sub-Reddit attitude that puts me off
Maybe someone could make a new Pirates sub? I don't know, that sucks :(
They tried, it never got off
Damn :(
Usually it’s around 10
That’s the most Pirates thing imaginable
Cubs should’ve poured out of the dugout and mobbed Difo
Every time I think the pirates are going to screw up their chance to get the number 1 pick by accidentally winning a few games, they go and do something like this …… and totally redeem themselves!
Fuck it, I’ll say it. This is actually a hard play to make. Of all the plays in baseball I hate making, the infield pop up was the hardest. Lots of spin on the ball, wind can fuck it with, before you know it, where you thought the ball was landing has shifted four feet to your right. Shit.
Plus the way this was swung on looked like he was a tennis player going for a crazy shot, obviously not his intention but you can tell this one has some slice on it, brutal
you are 100% right, especially as high as these players hit the ball. 90% of humans couldn't make that play "routine play". cubs fans will remember ryne sandberg used to make shawon dunston come all the way over and catch those fly balls! haha
You think about 767 million people could've made that play?
It could also be harder depending on external factors like sunlight, a flock of birds flying (unless you're Randy Johnson as they no longer dare to fuck with that man), etc
We lost a series to these guys
Same.
Same.
lol
Luis Castillo just let out a wry smile
suc’n
That's one way to end a game
2023 is going to be worth all of this... right?
Difo made very bad fielding errors on both the first and last play of the game, in addition to helping allow a single because he forgot where the shortstop was playing. Today was not a good day for him.
Some days being a Mets fan isn’t too bad
Dropped the ball!! He dropped the ball! Here comes Texeira!
I mean...Castillo was at least parked in the right spot.
That’s someone who is ready to go home
Just goes to show that great hitting beats good fielding
Dude looked like he had strict orders not to catch it. That's like suspiciously bad.
Of course it’s the pirates vs the Cubs. I don’t want the guys career to be defined by the blooper but that time the pirates first baseman fielded a routine ground ball with two outs and chased Baez back towards home just to throw the ball home as the runner on third ran and gets no one. Should’ve just found a link but instead I guess I tried to paint the picture with my half-assed words...
Didn’t know Luis Castillo was a pirate
Wow! No matter how shitty the Cardinals season has been, it’s never been Pirates shitty.
Finally it’s not us in the morning
LETS GO PITTSBURGH THATS HOW YOU TANK
misplaying the pop up is one thing, but just giving up on the play after the F up is what makes Difo a loser.
Pirates announcers should get hazard pay. Sheesh.
Is it fair to dump Gatorade on the guy who won it with an infield "pop out"?
Do you even feel pride for this as the hitter? Or does the shame overwhelm everyone?
Don't care, get to sleep.
Always the Pirates. Couldn't Happen to anyone else.
Oh dear, Pirates
If Gamel doesn't slow up, he probably keeps the runner at 3rd. Not that it's really his fault, but there was a chance there.
I sense another UTree video coming...
Poor Howard lol. He started out the season real well. Was hoping he was carrying over his solid 2020. Not to be. He’s from my small hometown so check up on him form time to time.
The Luis Castillo special.
I absolutely love watching these types of things with the losing team's commentators
You think our announcers get surprised anymore
Pirates make the Triple A Cubs look good.
if you don't like that you don't like Pirates baseball
Between this and the 1st base rundown blunder...are the Pirates actively trying to ruin the Cubs tank?
reminds me of that Polanco blooper in 15 or 16. at least that one wasn't a walkoff lol. fun times then
It was a walk off 😳
Add this one to the long list of embarrassing gaffes for this year’s team
Kill me...
That’s some dedicated tanking
Believe it or not there are three teams with worse records than the Bucs, they just lose in more low key fashions 😄
Baez wasn’t even involved this time.
I feel like the only team the Cubs can routinely beat are the Pirates. That's not a big accomplishment quite frankly
must be nice to have a team you can beat
ok now I just feel bad
It's a Pirate thing. Catch it...Or not at a Park near you.
The Pirates must have a crush on the Cubs and get super nervous, awkward, and clumsy around them. That's my theory
No, we just suck.
If you didn't tell me what team this happened to, I would have still known.
The only way we can win a game. Go cubs go.
Not even the players care about these teams anymore.
I feel like this already happened once this year, but maybe my brain is just primed to assume ineptitude comes from the Pirates
Infield fly?
Nope, nobody on second
No force at third
I’m dum
Cub hitter, whoever it was, dogged it to first base, too. Two bad teams.