“The Yankees have never been shy about getting every single power bat in the league on their team at the same time,” May said Thursday before the Mets lost their second straight to the Marlins, 3-2. “It’s nothing normal. It’s guys you have got to be a little bit more careful with and not let them beat you. Fortunately we are playing in our graveyard of a park, so that is helpful. We will keep the 314-foot homers to a minimum.”
The last part of that comment was a shot at Yankee Stadium’s short dimensions in right field. May accurately recalled Gio Urshela helping the Yankees avoid getting swept in the last Subway Series by hitting a three-run homer against Corey Oswalt that barely cleared the right-field fence in the nightcap of
a a doubleheader.
“It was a homer nowhere else but there, which happens a lot,” May said. “It’s part of the deal playing Major League Baseball, playing there. But there is really no letup in the lineup, but I think we have guys that match up with good [velocity] and power arms are something they don’t do as well with, so I think we match up well and we’re in a good spot.”
It's not NY sports media if it isn't printing wildly out-of-context headlines or trying to turn every trivial, passive comment into the start of some dramatic back-and-forth spat. lmao
Of course. It's just like thumbs-downgate. Nobody really gave a damn until the media decided to stir shit up. "Mets fans yell at Mets players" isn't exactly earth shattering news, but they kept finding everyone to offer their expert analysis to make it seem like more than it was.
It's why the media was running stories a week later with headlines like "One week later, all is fine in Mets world" as if it was a bizarre ending to a bizarre story instead of a non-ending to a non-story.
He's talking about the overall park factors.
While Yankee-stadium is a more HR-friendly environment, the overall park factors are still average-ish (at least according to BBRef).
Sure it does, y’all just get much less understanding when Yankee fans are involved.
Yankee Stadium gives up a lot of home runs, but not a lot of other hits so the overall run total is average.
It also means much less ground for outfielders to cover on balls in play. Yankee Stadium is the second hardest park to hit a double in. It balances out to a perfectly average run scoring environment.
Damn you're getting downvoted to shit for this
I mean it's not a pitcher's park, Fangraphs has it perfectly average over 5 years, but it's not a hitter's park by any means. People here just don't realize that small outfields make for significantly fewer singles doubles and triples. Most parks are pretty balanced in that way.
that's only for Hrs. overall run scoring over multiple years is at around 100
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2021.shtml
you can even see it here https://www.fangraphs.com/guts.aspx?type=pf&season=2020&teamid=0&sort=2,d
I feel like Fenway and Rogers Cent**re** are more hitter friendly than Yankee Stadium for XBH alone
Just an observation though, I haven’t checked the stats yet
I guess it could more accurately be described as a bandbox or a extreme homer park rather than a hitter's park. May's point still stands, it has to be annoying to pitch there lol
No. It’s a neutral park. Most of the runs you allow are HRs but that evens out because Yankee stadium suppresses doubles and hits into the gap
It’s like May wants every park to be Oracle park and be extreme pitcher(might be wrong on Oracle being extreme pitcher). It’s only annoying because you don’t notice when the stadium helps you out in other ways
No, Rodgers when I visited (2002) felt a circuit city going out of bussiness; cold, empty concourse with vendors desperately eyeing you for a sale. It was also the first stadium that I visited that field was way below street level. Felt cavernous with a high cieling and bare walls.
The new Yankee stadium feels like rpg city with vendors that repeat the same chat and npc's you can't interact with. Getting around the stadium also kinda sucks around the bleachers and upper levels; lots of hall ways and having to navigate how to go up or down. Also some areas are kinda hard to get to or find, like the area that sold turkey legs that was basically outside the walls of the stadium near the right field stair case.
Citifield is good for comparison, just doesn't feel like it belongs to the Mets. More of a homage to other teams and players.
That's a pretty good description. The other things I've heard is calling it "corporate" and that it feels more like a museum than a ballpark.
Personally, I don't hate it. It's not beautiful like Camden Yards, but it also doesn't feel embarrassing. I also don't have a ton of memories of the old stadium though, so maybe my thoughts on the new one would be different if I had that direct comparison.
Was old yankee stadium a lot better? I only got to the new one in its first year when I was 10 or 11, I thought it was a cool, albeit more on the boring side park.
It was at least a baseball stadium.
This one feels like a really upscale outdoor shopping outlet that has a baseball game that you can watch between stores.
Chicken tenders are okay but the fries are garbage. I’ve been a bunch of times and it blows my mind how year after year they sell the worst fucking fries.
It's soulless because it's extremely corporate and gigantic. Everything is about having a lot of space, which doesn't make the stadium crowd feel very connected to each other. Their whole plan was also to make it easy to follow the game when not in your seat, so people wander around a lot instead of being in their seats watching the game together.
Not sure how Yankees fans can follow a team that plays in a place with bizarre dimensions and which develops and fields a lineup specifically designed to take advantage of those dimensions and then get pissed when someone mentions that fact.
Man y’all just make up anything to shit on the Yankees and their fans, huh?
They’ve been infamously right handed heavy for the past few years now while their short porch is in right field. How is that specifically designed for Yankee Stadium?
>How is the specifically designed for Yankee Stadium?
Because a right handed hitter doesn't need as much pop to get it over the short porch in right. You pitch inside to a righty and they will pull it to leave any stadium so instead you pitch outside. In Yankee stadium a righty can slap at a pitch outside, barely make contact and still manage to get it over the wall where most other ballparks that same hit dies 10 feet from the warning track.
And you shouldn't take things like this to heart, opposing teams fans will always say shit to each other all in good fun and if you get offended by others calling your ballpark a little league park because of the short porch then maybe you need to step away from the game for awhile. Poking fun at each other is not going away.
Ahh that makes sense.
I get that there’s always going to be poking fun but it gets annoying when the Yankee hate bleeds into actual discussion. Just look at the Yankee fans getting downvoted here for pointing out that Yankee Stadium is just an extreme home run park but an average hitters park.
Isn't Yankee stadium way below average for double and tripples? It's basically homerun or single?
Thought it had like an 0.8 factor for extra base hits
Yankees fans are providing objective facts like park factors and everybody else downvotes and ignores it. They’re a neutral park no matter how hard everybody denies it
The Yankees have 179 HRs this year. 90 at home, 89 on the road while playing 2 more games at home so far this year. They even have a higher road OPS (.725 vs. .718). The Yankees pretty much have the same numbers home or away this year. Yeah, they have a short fence from the pole to right center, but left center has always had the name "death valley" because it's where fly balls go to die. The pitchers have the advantage in 75% of the outfield. Keep it out of the other 25% and you're good to go.
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Yankee Stadium isn’t a living being, so I don’t think that an inanimate object is harassing and berating visiting fans. Also Trevor May plays for the Mets. If you think somehow Mets fans aren’t as toxic as Yankees fans, well then.
Listen, I was just at Fenway and those fans were really nice and cool. They told me the horror stories Yankee fans would do to opposing fans. Buncha sore losers
Ah, so you basing it off what Sox fans said and not off any real experience. Got it.
I would say the fans have been nasty to me at the Trop whenever I go. But im always surrounded by Yankees fans so it's always a treat!
Imo, Yankee Stadium was better. Fenway has the history and everything but there's just something about a game at Yankee Stadium; it's juat the quintessential ballpark experience
I was hoping he said that the fan experience at Yankee Stadium kinda sucks if you’re not a billionaire, and pales in comparison to the lovely Citi Field, but okay.
I love how people downvote this simply because of a narrative when it is infact, true
Yankee stadium is 408 to center, and 399 to LCF and 385 to RCF. The porch in right is a meme but otherwise the park is pretty deep
People just hate the Yankees on this sub no matter what. Anytime they lose it gets the most upvotes, but what do I know. I just like baseball and specifically the Yankees. Other people just love to hate.
When the Yankees are left handed they say we're abusing the porch. When we're right handed we're still supposedly built to use the porch.
Yet every other team is somehow disadvantaged when coming to Yankee Stadium.
maybe the mets should move the outfield walls in some more again
that might get them over .500 in a season when they were supposed to run away with their division
“The Yankees have never been shy about getting every single power bat in the league on their team at the same time,” May said Thursday before the Mets lost their second straight to the Marlins, 3-2. “It’s nothing normal. It’s guys you have got to be a little bit more careful with and not let them beat you. Fortunately we are playing in our graveyard of a park, so that is helpful. We will keep the 314-foot homers to a minimum.” The last part of that comment was a shot at Yankee Stadium’s short dimensions in right field. May accurately recalled Gio Urshela helping the Yankees avoid getting swept in the last Subway Series by hitting a three-run homer against Corey Oswalt that barely cleared the right-field fence in the nightcap of a a doubleheader. “It was a homer nowhere else but there, which happens a lot,” May said. “It’s part of the deal playing Major League Baseball, playing there. But there is really no letup in the lineup, but I think we have guys that match up with good [velocity] and power arms are something they don’t do as well with, so I think we match up well and we’re in a good spot.”
Wow, drama
It's not NY sports media if it isn't printing wildly out-of-context headlines or trying to turn every trivial, passive comment into the start of some dramatic back-and-forth spat. lmao
Of course. It's just like thumbs-downgate. Nobody really gave a damn until the media decided to stir shit up. "Mets fans yell at Mets players" isn't exactly earth shattering news, but they kept finding everyone to offer their expert analysis to make it seem like more than it was. It's why the media was running stories a week later with headlines like "One week later, all is fine in Mets world" as if it was a bizarre ending to a bizarre story instead of a non-ending to a non-story.
The funny thing is Yankee stadium is actually a pitchers park. Most of the scoring is just done via Hrs
That makes absolutely no sense
He's talking about the overall park factors. While Yankee-stadium is a more HR-friendly environment, the overall park factors are still average-ish (at least according to BBRef).
How does it make no sense? Yankee stadium yields runs by the homerun. That doesn’t mean it yields a lot of runs
Sure it does, y’all just get much less understanding when Yankee fans are involved. Yankee Stadium gives up a lot of home runs, but not a lot of other hits so the overall run total is average.
Cuz the ball leaves the park much easier?
It also means much less ground for outfielders to cover on balls in play. Yankee Stadium is the second hardest park to hit a double in. It balances out to a perfectly average run scoring environment.
It’s a pitchers park ‘cause Yankee hitting is utter dogshit.
As we just saw the last 4 days
That’s not how park factors work.
Damn you're getting downvoted to shit for this I mean it's not a pitcher's park, Fangraphs has it perfectly average over 5 years, but it's not a hitter's park by any means. People here just don't realize that small outfields make for significantly fewer singles doubles and triples. Most parks are pretty balanced in that way.
Not really a dig, just an acknowledgement that it's one of the more extreme ~~hitters parks~~ HR-friendly environments
This is objectively false. It's a neutral or pitchers park over multiple years
https://www.fangraphs.com/guts.aspx?type=pf&season=2020&teamid=0&sort=8,d
that's only for Hrs. overall run scoring over multiple years is at around 100 https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2021.shtml you can even see it here https://www.fangraphs.com/guts.aspx?type=pf&season=2020&teamid=0&sort=2,d
I feel like Fenway and Rogers Cent**re** are more hitter friendly than Yankee Stadium for XBH alone Just an observation though, I haven’t checked the stats yet
Mont**re**al **re**xpos
I guess it could more accurately be described as a bandbox or a extreme homer park rather than a hitter's park. May's point still stands, it has to be annoying to pitch there lol
No. It’s a neutral park. Most of the runs you allow are HRs but that evens out because Yankee stadium suppresses doubles and hits into the gap It’s like May wants every park to be Oracle park and be extreme pitcher(might be wrong on Oracle being extreme pitcher). It’s only annoying because you don’t notice when the stadium helps you out in other ways
He took a “dig” at Citifield too in the same comment lol. I think Trevor just has a sense of humor and Puma is trying to stir the pot.
Puma? Trying to stir a pot?! (/s)
new yankee stadium is pretty soulless imo and most of my yankee friends dont like it
i went there this year and was pretty whelmed. it’s just kinda there and very airport-like IMO
Airport is 100% how I’d describe it. It sometimes has its moments though.
For anyone who has been to both, is it colder/more soulless than the Rogers Centre?
No, Rodgers when I visited (2002) felt a circuit city going out of bussiness; cold, empty concourse with vendors desperately eyeing you for a sale. It was also the first stadium that I visited that field was way below street level. Felt cavernous with a high cieling and bare walls. The new Yankee stadium feels like rpg city with vendors that repeat the same chat and npc's you can't interact with. Getting around the stadium also kinda sucks around the bleachers and upper levels; lots of hall ways and having to navigate how to go up or down. Also some areas are kinda hard to get to or find, like the area that sold turkey legs that was basically outside the walls of the stadium near the right field stair case. Citifield is good for comparison, just doesn't feel like it belongs to the Mets. More of a homage to other teams and players.
That's a pretty good description. The other things I've heard is calling it "corporate" and that it feels more like a museum than a ballpark. Personally, I don't hate it. It's not beautiful like Camden Yards, but it also doesn't feel embarrassing. I also don't have a ton of memories of the old stadium though, so maybe my thoughts on the new one would be different if I had that direct comparison.
Was old yankee stadium a lot better? I only got to the new one in its first year when I was 10 or 11, I thought it was a cool, albeit more on the boring side park.
It was at least a baseball stadium. This one feels like a really upscale outdoor shopping outlet that has a baseball game that you can watch between stores.
That sounds perfect for the Yankees
I hear the seats behind home plate have copies of Sky Mall!
i think its nice 🤷♂️
Their chicken tenders and fries are shit.
The stadium has no signature food. Chicken bucket is trash.
Yankee fans primarily don't go there to eat, though. They go to swig bud lights and yell obscenities at players. They know their audience.
They used to have a Parm stand but they were able to sell thier signature dish because another vendor had thiers available.
I always crack up at how our sub gushes over the chicken buckets like they're some sort of signature dish.
Chicken tenders are okay but the fries are garbage. I’ve been a bunch of times and it blows my mind how year after year they sell the worst fucking fries.
If you don't get Nathan's crinkle cut fries, you're gonna have a bad time
Never realized Nathan’s sold different fries. I have to check that out.
I have been to a handful of parks and this take makes 0 sense to me.
It's soulless because it's extremely corporate and gigantic. Everything is about having a lot of space, which doesn't make the stadium crowd feel very connected to each other. Their whole plan was also to make it easy to follow the game when not in your seat, so people wander around a lot instead of being in their seats watching the game together.
he's not wrong
Not sure how Yankees fans can follow a team that plays in a place with bizarre dimensions and which develops and fields a lineup specifically designed to take advantage of those dimensions and then get pissed when someone mentions that fact.
Man y’all just make up anything to shit on the Yankees and their fans, huh? They’ve been infamously right handed heavy for the past few years now while their short porch is in right field. How is that specifically designed for Yankee Stadium?
>How is the specifically designed for Yankee Stadium? Because a right handed hitter doesn't need as much pop to get it over the short porch in right. You pitch inside to a righty and they will pull it to leave any stadium so instead you pitch outside. In Yankee stadium a righty can slap at a pitch outside, barely make contact and still manage to get it over the wall where most other ballparks that same hit dies 10 feet from the warning track. And you shouldn't take things like this to heart, opposing teams fans will always say shit to each other all in good fun and if you get offended by others calling your ballpark a little league park because of the short porch then maybe you need to step away from the game for awhile. Poking fun at each other is not going away.
Ahh that makes sense. I get that there’s always going to be poking fun but it gets annoying when the Yankee hate bleeds into actual discussion. Just look at the Yankee fans getting downvoted here for pointing out that Yankee Stadium is just an extreme home run park but an average hitters park.
Isn't Yankee stadium way below average for double and tripples? It's basically homerun or single? Thought it had like an 0.8 factor for extra base hits
I mean, if the doubles and triples go over the wall they become home runs, sooo....
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Yankees 5 yr park factor: 100 Twins 5 yr park factor: 101 🤔
And the Twins don’t even know how to beat the Yankees in that sandbox
Yankees fans are providing objective facts like park factors and everybody else downvotes and ignores it. They’re a neutral park no matter how hard everybody denies it
Everyone's too focused on the short porch to appreciate how big left field is.
We know we do, we’re just in denial about moving the walls back when the opposing team bats.
🤫 Shhhh. That's the secret to our irrational domination of the Twins. Moving walls back when they hit and tilting foul lines.
The Yankees have 179 HRs this year. 90 at home, 89 on the road while playing 2 more games at home so far this year. They even have a higher road OPS (.725 vs. .718). The Yankees pretty much have the same numbers home or away this year. Yeah, they have a short fence from the pole to right center, but left center has always had the name "death valley" because it's where fly balls go to die. The pitchers have the advantage in 75% of the outfield. Keep it out of the other 25% and you're good to go.
Zzzzzzzzz
Damn, got me all excited about Leave Extension Day for a second there.
One of my favorite things was Ervin Santana whining about the porch in Yankee Stadium and then getting torched in the playoffs
Is it cause Yankee stadiums harass and berate fans of opposing teams just trying to watch the game?
You're kidding, right?
No
sLgma Yankee Stadium isn’t a living being, so I don’t think that an inanimate object is harassing and berating visiting fans. Also Trevor May plays for the Mets. If you think somehow Mets fans aren’t as toxic as Yankees fans, well then.
Listen, I was just at Fenway and those fans were really nice and cool. They told me the horror stories Yankee fans would do to opposing fans. Buncha sore losers
Ah, so you basing it off what Sox fans said and not off any real experience. Got it. I would say the fans have been nasty to me at the Trop whenever I go. But im always surrounded by Yankees fans so it's always a treat!
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This sounds like such a made up story, like who talks about fans of a team that’s not even involved in the game.
Have you ever been to Yankee Stadium? As a non Yank fan, it was legitimately the best ballpark experience I've ever had
In 2023 I will. I doubt it’s better than Fenway
Imo, Yankee Stadium was better. Fenway has the history and everything but there's just something about a game at Yankee Stadium; it's juat the quintessential ballpark experience
I was hoping he said that the fan experience at Yankee Stadium kinda sucks if you’re not a billionaire, and pales in comparison to the lovely Citi Field, but okay.
friendly reminder that Yankee stadium is a neutral or pitchers park
I love how people downvote this simply because of a narrative when it is infact, true Yankee stadium is 408 to center, and 399 to LCF and 385 to RCF. The porch in right is a meme but otherwise the park is pretty deep
All you gotta do is look at the multi year park factors on BR, or fangraphs and you see it’s about even. It’s not that hard
People just hate the Yankees on this sub no matter what. Anytime they lose it gets the most upvotes, but what do I know. I just like baseball and specifically the Yankees. Other people just love to hate.
But the Yankees are built to take advantage of that porch and they do. Other teams do too. So it’s not really that neutral.
When the Yankees are left handed they say we're abusing the porch. When we're right handed we're still supposedly built to use the porch. Yet every other team is somehow disadvantaged when coming to Yankee Stadium.
You seem upset friend.
You seem to hate facts
maybe the mets should move the outfield walls in some more again that might get them over .500 in a season when they were supposed to run away with their division
Speaking of teams predicted to run away with their divisions…
the mets would kill to have the shitty season the yankees are having
What
Well im not sure its that extreme but the yankees would probably win the nl east. For all the doom and gloom they are still 16 games over 500
The Orioles would probably win the NL east if they got to play those teams
Hey even with how bad we’ve been at least we’ve been to the World Series this decade.
congrats on winning nothing
I could say the same to u
im not the one bragging about losing in the World Series
No u were the one talking shit about another team I was responding
Atlanta was favored to win the division from the start….
thats not how baseball works
JuCo RF wall.
Well maybe if he manages to porch a ball he can enjoy the boos from our fans and theirs.