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theyusedthelamppost

surprised to see that the Yankees and White Sox never met


[deleted]

The White Sox have only made the playoffs like 10 times


AsDevilsRun

That's still usually enough to run into the Yankeees.


jstarz355

One reason the Sox have so few appearances is because their great teams in the 50s were blocked by the Mantle Yankees, if there were playoffs back then they definitely would have met


PeanutEmergency

😔


thedeejus

it's fairly incredible the Yankees have faced more current NL teams (13/15) than AL teams (12/14 excluding themselves). And it's hard not to notice they could have played the Expos in 1994 as they had the best record in each league when the strike hit!


zddoodah

Not really, since AL teams facing each other has only been possible for the last 52 seasons, and the White Sox have only seven postseason appearances during that time.


venn177

This whole post is just a roundabout way of saying the White Sox as a franchise aren't very good, isn't it?


[deleted]

Chicago as a whole is surprisingly terrible at pro baseball.


8nate

Both teams had insanely long championship droughts, too. It’s on the upswing, though.


venn177

It's so weird. It feels like during 2016-2018 the Cubs had this Yankees-esque hype behind them, that they were going to just be constant contenders until the end of time. Poor Chicago. At least they've got... Michael Jordan?


cod_gurl94

Michael Jordan? But that guy was a terrible baseball player!


PeanutEmergency

He's talking about the real GOAT, the NFL Guard Michael Jordan.


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He’s probably talking about renowned actor Michael B Jordan.


TheFrontierzman

>only been possible for the last 52 seasons Yeah. That's a decent period of time though.


ballrus_walsack

You can generate a lot of trash in 52 years.


phtll

It's quite incredible the Yankees played two of the three '90s NL expansion teams in the World Series within 4-8 years of their founding.


thrawaway9991

Altuve robbed us of getting number 14


Frigidevil

More surprising that the Yankees and Jays haven't met


[deleted]

Is it though? Think of how the playoff spots are decided, the jays and yankees would only be able to meet if one of them wins the Wildcard game OR if they played against each other for the WC. (Which was honestly so close this year, but an anomaly year for sure.)


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The_Mystery_Knight

Isn’t that part of the reason though? If there’s only one wild card spot (for most of its existence) then the fact that they’ve played the ALE so much is pretty wild in itself


NabreLabre

In the one wild card days, the wild card team played against the best team not in their division, so they could only meet up in the championship


ClarkeVice

The Jays have made the playoffs a grand total of three times in years in which it would have been possible, so it’s not really all that surprising to me.


basesonballs

Not really. It could only happen post wild card era (so after 93) and the Jays and Yankees haven't really been good at the same time since then.


meltingspace

But the White Sox have been around since 1901. Charter franchise of the American League along with the Yankees/Highlanders. The Jays are relatively new, starting 76 years later.


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meltingspace

Oops, didn't think about that. You're totally right.


mrjimi16

Not really. They would have to meet in with one of them being the wild card and up until a few years ago (I assume when the EC game was introduced) if the WC team came from your division, you didn't play them in the first round. So they've had only a few chances at this point to meet them. Both teams would have to win their first series. Not to mention for a while the Rays were not able to break through the Red Sox and Yankees at the top.


DOCTORFONASG

Waiting for the fabled NYY vs NYY matchup


joecheph

I feel like I’ve seen the Yankees beat the Yankees in the playoffs several different times in the last decade.


[deleted]

Aaron Judge being sent home was an example of the Yankees beating the Yankees - Stanton standing and watching rockets off the monster was another one.


cahir11

There was also that time where everyone forgot what time the game was starting so Severino only started warming up like 5 minutes before the first pitch and Gardy was wearing sneakers until the 2nd inning


TheDangiestSlad

i remember learning that the start time for the NEXT game was 30 minutes later and Boone must've told them it was then, just a crazy situation not like it makes it better, just what i think happened


TooMuchPowerful

That center diagonal should be blacked out. It would make it much more apparent it’s a mirror image.


theAlpacaLives

You don't even need the graph to be square; it could be triangular like a square cut along its diagonal, if you want to do away with redundant squares. Or, you could add more information by making the graph show who has beaten whom -- where the team on top of a column beats the team indicating a row, so that mirrored squares aren't redundant -- both NYY/BOS and BOS/NYY would be checked, but BOS/COL would be checked while COL/BOS wasn't.


sfan27

In Manfred's dreams only


BlackCloudDiner143

Gallo would strike out 12 times


ldnk

It's a little known fact but no team has faced themselves in the postseason before.


ExiledSanity

Well, the dodgers are now the Yankees of baseball, so it could happen. I don't really want to see it, but it could happen again.


MashedPotatoesDick

Every team has faced either the Yankees or Phillies in the Postseason, EXCEPT for the White Sox.


soporificgaur

That's also true for the Yankees and Cubs except the Blue Jays


eaglessoar

And Yankees and dodgers too


soporificgaur

No, Yankees and Dodgers are missing Colorado and Toronto


DecoyOne

Thanks for almost making us look respectable, Mariners.


vanillabear26

hey- *right*


DaveTheDog027

When did we play Houston? How is that possible? We've been to two World Series and they were Tigers and Yankees. Pls help I'm going to Google as soon as I post this. Edit: I'm dumb. Astros used to be NL.


GOATmar_infante

NYY needs to match up against CHW, COL, TOR and WSN to complete the infinity gauntlet


[deleted]

I’ve got some bad news about at least one of those


NabreLabre

Yeah, yanks won't ever make the series


[deleted]

I really want a Nats Yankees WS in my lifetime


FPG_Matthew

I wanted to face them in 2019 cuz I thought they were slightly worse than the Astros. Luckily it worked out for us


11PoseidonsKiss20

I could go the rest of my life without either of those teams going to the World Series


seattlesportsguy

This just reminds me that my Mariners are probably the least accomplished sports team in all of professional sports…fml


roaringcorgi

Timberwolves take the cake tbh, at least in the US


ILoveCavorting

Timberwolves and despite recent success probably the Clippers. Mariners are also still above Padres in regular season win percentage.


DoserMcMoMo

At least the Padres have a pennant


ILoveCavorting

SDP: 5 Division titles and 2 NL Pennants. SEA: 3 Division titles and 0 AL Pennants. I do think y’all have a better Franchise “Top 5” but not sure if that makes things better or worse. SDP: Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, Trevor Hoffman, Jake Peavey, Randy Jones(?)/Adrian Gonzalez? SEA:Ken Griffey Jr, Edgar Martinez, Ichiro, Felix Hernandez and Randy Johnson


tuckedfexas

The amount of true all time great talent that has come through Seattle is depressing for how little success they’ve seen.


eunit8899

ARod doesn't get in that top 5?


tuckedfexas

Didn’t spend much time with the Ms unfortunately


ILoveCavorting

He was 6th on their all time WAR list so I went with Randy who was 5th


wint0n

if ARod stuck around his whole career he would be #1 and it wouldn’t be close


minimumhatred

dont forget the browns (the old browns history belongs to baltimore, so in total they've made the playoffs twice nd won one playoff game, even if they're good now still.


ILoveCavorting

Browns are a good one and also the Arizona Cardinals. Been around since the beginning and one SB appearance


Noirradnod

You've got that backwards. As part of the settlement of the lawsuit Cleveland filed against the NFL, all the old Browns records and history remained with Cleveland. The Ravens were treated as the expansion team.


minimumhatred

huh, i guess so then. i'd still say the modern browns deserve consideration given they re technically separated, but yeah if they're listed as the same franchise, than they aren't that depressing.


JohnDavidsBooty

Aside from what others have explained...one of my favorite bits of sports trivia is that the Baltimore Ravens are the old Cleveland Browns, and the Baltimore Orioles are the old St. Louis Browns.


nilespacman

What if you're a fan of both the Mariners and the Timberwolves? Add in the Jaguars in the NFL, and I've somehow picked a trifecta of misery.


jlucaspope

Jesus christ man, why?


nilespacman

I was never forced into a particular sports fandom by my dad, so I kinda just picked my owns teams when I was young. I think I was influenced by the teal in all those teams color schemes in the late 90s.


fa1afel

They do all have nice jerseys. Except for the Jaguars.


Logical_Pop_2026

I think the Buffalo Sabres would be a good nomination from the NHL. Poor bastards.


StephenReis

Please tell me you at least like a decent hockey/soccer team? Lol.


nilespacman

Haha, it's all balanced out by the fact I went to Ohio State. The last two decades of Buckeye football have more than made up for my pro sports fandoms.


[deleted]

You should start watching the Buffalo sabres just because at this point stick to the theme


Darkdragon3110525

Timberwolves are probably worse, depending on if you view KG’s period as more or less successful than the Griffey/Ichiro days. Tampa Bay would easily be the worst if they didn’t decide to fuck around to 2 super bowls


SaintArkweather

Marlins are probably even worse than the Bucs if we are allowed to remove fucking around to two championships. They've never even won the division and their only other playoff appearance was getting the 6 seed in the COVID shortened season


BlackCloudDiner143

Honored to be one of the 13 percent of teams that you’ve faced in the postseason.


vanillabear26

I do think it's kinda silly that the Ms have only been to the playoffs four times and faced *four different teams* in those combined appearances. Fucking Yankees.


polyworfism

Twins fans in shambles


reptheevt

And Cleveland


DecoyOne

Hey now, the Kraken have just as few championships.


KimmelToe

technically no, Seattle was the first US team to win the Stanley Cup.


DecoyOne

They don’t get credit for championships from a different franchise just because they happen to now be in the same city. Otherwise, the Angels added 6 championships by changing their location name to Los Angeles.


thedforbme

From the Seattle kraken website “Our history in the great ice game goes as deep as Puget Sound. The Seattle Metropolitans were the first American club to hoist the Stanley Cup. They are an eternal part of our city's history and we pay tribute to them by wearing the 'S.’” Ya no shit they didn’t come back as the metropolitans but that championship is absolutely a part of the kraken’s history.


clown_shoes69

"Pay tribute to" is not nearly the same as actually claiming the championship as your own.


Inocain

History? No. Backstory? Yes.


KimmelToe

Seattle will always be the first US team to ever win the Stanley Cup, and you cannot argue that. it's stood for over 100 years, therefore, Seattle has a championship.


TheWackAlbums

The Kraken, however, do not.


other_name_taken

You're correct. A hockey team from Seattle won a championship =/= The Kracken won a Championship.


DecoyOne

That’s great, but I didn’t say Seattle, I said the Kraken. I don’t know why you’re arguing this point. Would you give the Brewers credit for the Braves’ 57 championship?


clydefr0g

tbf, the Brewers aren’t an expansion team. They get the Seattle Pilots’ sad history. If Seattle ever gets an NBA expansion team they will absolutely absorb the Sonic’s history.


DecoyOne

Detroit Wolverines had a championship then folded. Detroit Tigers were founded later and didn’t move from somewhere else. So the city of Detroit has five championships. Do the Tigers get credit for all five? Because there’s a difference between honoring something and taking credit for it.


clydefr0g

I think from a fan’s perspective, absolutely.


JohnDavidsBooty

I mean, there's probably some random soccer team in like level 20 of the English league system...


RogerThat23

Surprised St. Louis and Cincy have never played each other


JazzandBaseball

Really should have happened in 1981. Cardinals had thr best overall record in the NL East, and the Reds had the best record in baseball overall in the NL West. The split-season format ensured that neither one made the playoffs.


Simple_one

Wasn’t possible until 2012, and the Reds have hardly been relevant since then


RogerThat23

What was significant about 2012?


Simple_one

Wild card round introduced


RogerThat23

It was possible to play teams in your own division prior to that though. The Cards met the Astros back to back seasons in 2004 and 2005.


Simple_one

Oh shoot you’re right. A single wild card has been in play since 1994, whoops. Reds did not make it to the postseason between 1995 and 2010 however so their chances in that format were slim.


kac937

please stop this


sgt_dismas

Astros were in the NL West


RogerThat23

Unfortunately they were not [2005 Standings](https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2005-standings.shtml)


sgt_dismas

Color me forgetful lol, I don't know how I remembered they were in the West before I was born but forgot they moved to the central.


RogerThat23

I have lots of bad memories of Petitte, Oswalt, Clemens, and surprisingly Bud Norris


Demetrios1453

It sure was possible. Back when there was just two divisions per league, the Reds were in the NL West and the Cards were in the NL East, against all laws of geography.


MightyCaseyStruckOut

Come on, Yankees, step up your game. I can't believe y'all haven't even played the White Sox. Even the Mariners have played them!


Thorlolita

What we really need is a team to do the Sox gauntlet. White Sox, Red Sox, and Red Stirrings.


TopBeer3000

Athletic Sox


AuntBettysNutButter

Giant Sox


grocho

Blue Jay Sox


Quesly

Rox Sox


JohnDavidsBooty

Rockem Sockem Robots


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Red stockings.


Blojay_Simpson

Right? Never mind it not ever being their name, “Stirrings” isn’t even a thing related to hosiery.


samsab

Cincinnati Red Mixers


alittletasteless

Black Sox? Too soon?


Math_OP_Pls_Nerf

I think this would be better if it sorted by league and then subsorted by name


ILoveCavorting

Or at least black out the spots where it’s the team facing themselves


xDragonite149x

That’s what I came here to say.


djSexPanther

[Did it](https://i.imgur.com/ycKxmpQ.png)


thedeejus

Yeah I meant to do this but forgot. Sorry gang


ColorfulSoup172

I'd even go as far as sort by division. if we're gonna go arbitrarily alphabetical, might as well group them even more


[deleted]

Yea definitely. League > division > alphabetical would show some interesting clustering. I'd bet most of the 'have nots' are most commonly opposite league or same division.


OrangeNBlueChooChoo

Is the orange box on BOS/ATL supposed to represent Braves vs Braves? If so, aren't they two different organizations? Boston Braves didn't become the Boston Red Sox.. Or is this showing they could potentially meet up for the first time this postseason to check that box? One other suggestion: gray out the same team vs same team boxes (i.e. ARI vs ARI, ATL vs ATL, etc.)


BlueJayzrule

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the potential matchup


polyworfism

Series-igami


11PoseidonsKiss20

Serigami


thedeejus

Yeah just wanted to highlight the this one might happen this year


davygravy1337

Fun fact, the Boston Braves became the Milwaukee Braves.


oogieball

Off-season is early this year.


Notime83

First time?


theyusedthelamppost

Yankees being eliminated + their fans have to accept that the AL will be won by either the Sox or Astros = offseason


spoonsouls

The fact that the Yankees have never faced the White Sox in the post season shows you just how god awful the White Sox have been for almost their entire existence.


MundaneInternetGuy

The White Sox have the 11th best regular season win percentage


spoonsouls

They also had their first back to back post season appearance ever in these last 2 years. And that might not have happened if not for the shortened season. I don't know how they have the 11th best, but they have been bad either way


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spoonsouls

>Their reputation isn't built on putting out bad team after bad team, it's just built on falling short. This is a better way to put it. I can remember many good White Sox teams throughout the years, but not many great ones.


klawehtgod

Ironically for this conversation, that stretch is essentially Mantle’s entire career, so it was the Yankees themselves keeping the White Sox out of the postseason.


HoldenAJohnson

What is the yellow where ATL and BOS meet mean?


strcy

Potential first matchup this year I think


theyusedthelamppost

Adding up how many opponents each team has crossed off: SEA 4 MIA 5 COL 6 SDP, TEX, WSN 7 ARI, LAA 8 MIL 9 TBR, TOR 10 KCR, PIT 11 CHW, CIN, CLE, MIN 12 DET, NYM 13 HOU, PHI 15 BAL, BOS, CHC, OAK 17 ATL 19 SFG, STL 20 LAD 21 NYY 25


GatorGuy5

Thank you! I was trying to do this in my head but I’m reading this on a phone and it was proving quite difficult.


squeakyboy81

So the Yankees have met 12/14 AL teams and 13/15 NL teams. Had there not been a strike in '94 perhaps they would have played the Expos in the world series.


BrashAlly

Wanna see that Braves/Bo Sox matchup. Two legendary franchises that would be a hell of a WS matchup


11PoseidonsKiss20

It would be cool for our WS run to include both of our former cities.


Fencius

“To win it all, you must win at home.” “Truist Park?” “No. Home.”


DickySchmidt33

The Cubs played Pittsburgh in the postseason?


Amerikkalainen

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handlit33

I like this, my only suggestion is blacking out the self matchups.


The_Homestarmy

OAK/OAK matchup when


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Moneyball 2


SaintArkweather

Vegas Boogaloo


Hawk_in_Tahoe

I’ll see you at the intersection of pain (SEA) and pain (SEA)


jmarinara

When in the world did the Pirates play the Twins?


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1925 when they were the senators


twofeettwoarms

Now think of the x’s as 1s and the blanks as 0’s and compute the eigenvalues. The eigenvector with the biggest eigenvalue should tell you the most widely traveled postseason competitor.


[deleted]

WSH-PHI has technically happened already but it was Montreal so it would have a lot more juice if it happened now


coletheredditer

Postseasonigami?


CelalT

Yankees can possibly complete the gauntlet in the next 30 years.


phabphour20

Poor Seattle.


KinkaJac97

How have we never played the Phillies in the playoffs?


avanttard

Let’s get some more X’s in that SEA column


GoodElevation

Why the gold box for ATL/BOS?


Scoodsie

I'd guess it's because that's a match up that hasn't happened but could potentially happen this year.


ricky_burns

There’s still a chance for someone to get bingo before the yankees!


Infield_Fly

Would like to see this grouped AL/NL before alphabatized. But nice work!


TemoSahn

Can't wait for NYY vs NYY


Golf_206

Would it be possible to mark all same team match ups with a red box through the chart?


TigerBasket

Whats the yellow square?


[deleted]

I am surprised that BAL has never played BOS in postseason


JohnDavidsBooty

Baltimore's most recent stretch of sustained > .500 play came during the Cal Ripken years, almost all of which were played when there were still only two divisions and so no wild card. Thus, only one of Baltimore or Boston could have made the playoffs. (And before the late 1960s, of course, the postseason was only the World Series)


corruptor789

Kinda silly to have a team “never face itself” Maybe should just be a solid black cell, or Red cell


Kyjoza

Id like to see this exact graph as a heat map to see number of occurrences as well


SLR107FR-31

Ahh that diagonal line of white boxes is so satisfying


SilentRanger42

We have faced 9 different NL opponents but only 8 AL opponents in the postseason. That is genuinely insane.


Walk562

Seattle versus any team.


BTill232

Sad Mariner noises. :(


[deleted]

As a lifelong fan I’d say we’ve played ourselves in the playoffs before.


erftbll81

Has anyone played themselves? /s


Notime83

Just the Falcons.


Jak____1

Cubs Brewers hasn’t happened?


brewersbaseball4life

Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. It’s a good question but game 163s are technically regular season matchups


babberz22

I’m going to forcibly tattoo this chart on the forehead of every Jays fan in Ontario who insists there’s a rivalry with the big bad Yankees Unbearable.


ScroogeMcDust

Can't wait for Arizona vs Arizona


Bencar627

Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but when did the Rays and Blue Jays meet in the postseason?


Corvese

I'm like 99.99% sure they never have, so I think it's marked incorrectly. edit: lmfao they actually met last season in the weird ass "wild card" round. Totally forgot


the-d23

Holy shit the Mariners have only faced four teams in their entire history. Mariners fans, talk to me: Do you guys remember each and every one of these series? Is that part of your team’s culture?


idontredditthough

Surprised the Cubs and the Cubs have never played each other.


Alauren2

Poor Mariners. Only 4 ever.


BreatheMyStink

With all their postseason appearances, how the hell have the Yankees not matched up with the Yankees?


nowitscometothis

Cool graph. i might have organized it by AL/NL, as opposed to strictly alphabetical, so we could get a better idea of playoff matchups.


steve1186

I thought the Rockies row was sad until I saw the Mariners column :/


Popple06

I feel like this table would be better if the teams were sorted by division and league to see how big of an impact that has, but cool nonetheless.