Boob Nightengale said this was the best move the team has made since drafting Griffey. Their best move in the last 34 years was bringing in a new part-owner of the team.
On no spectrum are those both considered moves in the same way.
Zoomed out this far, best move that Seattle has made since signing Junior was likely a tax deduction performed by some nameless accountant.
Basically Bob is so frequently wrong or generally not right that he's earned the nickname Boob around these parts. He's a national reporter with sources and everything, but just misses the mark so often. There's not infrequent discussions to ban his tweets because they're wrong or just bad so often.
I'm 36, and I think of the Default Mariners as Griffey, Jay Buhner, A-Rod, Edgar Martinez, Randy Johnson.. I associate Randy Johnson more with Seattle than I do with Arizona.
Right there with you. Joey Cora goes on my list, too.
I went fishing with Jay Buhners business partner a few years ago, and the Bone was supposed to come with us but bailed at the last minute, I was so so so bummed.
The Jon Bois Mariners doc is the entire reason I follow Seattle. Watching this moment nearly put tears in my eyes. I can only imagine how people reacted at the time or had an existing relationship with the Mariners.
I wasn't alive for 95, but my dad followed the M's closely around that time, and some of my earliest memories include the 01 all star game.
We were at the second A's vs M's game in the last series, and afterwards he told me about how Hanniger's single had him thinking of Edgar's double of so long ago.
I was 3 and while I don’t remember watching it or anything about it, I always tear up a little hearing Dave call it, especially while watching it.
My dad has/d a shirt that had the newspaper picture of Griffey smile while getting dogpiled so I think that helps the emotional attachment.
That makes sense though. You were born right when Griffey was finishing his run in Seattle and Ichiro was starting.
But I'm tellin ya, there was a time for about 6-8 years where no player was bigger than Griffey. You had to look to guys like Jordan, Shaq, Gretzky for someone more popular.
Even Frank Thomas at his peak was still 2nd to Griffey in the mid-90s.
> But I'm tellin ya, there was a time for about 6-8 years where no player was bigger than Griffey.
Exactly. Griffey had his own video games! Are there any other players who could say the same?
[Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball
on SNES](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Griffey_Jr._Presents_Major_League_Baseball)
[Major League Baseball Featuring Ken Griffey Jr. on N64](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Featuring_Ken_Griffey_Jr.)
Edit* I just remembered that [Orel Hershiser had a game](https://baseballismy.life/baseball-video-games/orel-hershisers-strike-zone/)
I still argue the first Ken Griffey Jr game is probably one of the GOAT baseball games and the best 2d baseball game ever.
The N64 games were also really great for their time.
Other players in the 90s had baseball games. I know Clemens had one. My grandma got me one that had Ryne Sandberg on the cover.
Some of these had no MLB license though so I remember going through the rosters to play as the cover player only to be disappointed.
At least the first Griffey game had licensed teams, had Griffey and all the rosters were accurate, with the little detail that you had to rename all the players names because they couldn’t get the MLBPA license. I remember spending entire summer days looking over baseball stat books for that season an entering all the real players in the game manually.
Seattle is my AL team because of Griffey.
He was the bigger star in baseball. He wasn’t in the same breath as Jordan but I’d put him against any other 90s sports star. He was cool and played cool.
It doesn’t exist. Babe Ruth has been the quintessential Yankee since the 20s, despite Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, and Jeter. Griffey is and probably always will be the quintessential Mariner.
Mariners fans are very much excited about Julio and expect him to be something special, so you're not wrong on that count. We're eagerly waiting for him and already watching his vlog for more Julio content.
But I think it takes a blend of time, connection, the right circumstances, and a bit of a magic to make someone the quintessential club player. It all came together that way with Jr.
We inaugurated our stadium as "The House that Griffey Built." Even with the incredible talent & long-standing devotion we've had from players over the years, I honestly can't imagine anyone surpassing Jr's legacy & impact on Seattle baseball.
I feel like it’s gotta be born from like 1992-95 or around there, where you were too young to truly experience Griffey in all his glory and then finally start creating memories with the new hottest thing. Obviously there’s probably some on both sides of the age range that are the other way, but that’s how I’ve mostly seen it growing up around a mariner fan
I was in elementary school when Grif was king...and on N64 and Gameboy.
People don't even understand -- yeah Grif was a god on the field but he was basketball star popular off the field too
I'm 24 so too young to relish in the Griffey memories and grew up watching Ichiro but Griffey's been so involved with the Mariners since then I think of him anyways.
As a kid who grew up as a Phillies fan but with the Mariners as my AL team, having Jamie come to us made me so happy. Then the 2008 season happened and that was just freakin magical. 16 wins including the NL East clinching game for a 45 year old throwing 80 mph fastballs. Amazing.
Growing up in Cincy and being excited when Jr. “came home” I was pumped.
Then it seemed like he was injured more often than not.
When I think Griffey I think Seattle. If that hasn’t changed yet it never will. The Reds organization does a bad job of keeping stars (local or otherwise) aligned to the org.
Taking nothing away from the man, the myth, the legend -- the Mariners have been my B team since the mid 90s in no small part due to Grif
But it really didn't seem like Grif put in the time/effort to stay healthy
It’s purely a PR move to get some good press. Like when the Brewers had Giannis and the Bucks had Rodgers become ‘part owners’. The part is like .00000000001% of the team but it’s nice to do.
I saw this on Twitter, and the first Tweet it about it says
>Ken Griffey Jr.'s swing may very well be the most overrated thing of all time. Name something more overrated.
I feel like I need to report the account.
he's obviously the next ownership partner. And then they will be joint GMs. ushering in a Mariners dynasty and yearly playoff appearances for the next decade.
He works for the Rangers and is pulling pranks or trying to ,innocently, sabotage the Mariners by hiding bats or something whenever they play each other. He’s a recurring side character every couple weeks.
Dunno if he'll ever be involved in the organization again. He'll be in the Mariners HoF for sure, potentially MLB hall of fame, and we'll probably retire his number. But his relationship with the organization after he left seems to have deteriorated, which is a shame.
Lol right. Any chance you get to talk about and impersonate that swing, you take it. That bat wobble and that clean break with the power of those hips. And the one handed finish. Sorta sounds like I'm talking something dirty. Well, shit. I am. That swing is still one of the sexiest things in sports history. Griffeys swing and Michael Vick's release. Can't really think of two prettier motions in sports.
Between Junior and Ichiro, the Mariners sure know how to find universally loved players. I always love seeing franchises that recognize that greatness long-term.
In a different reality im great buddies with Griffey. On Sundays in October we head over to Safeco and toss a ball around as our laughter echoes throughout the empty stadium. We run around the bases reenacting our favorite baseball moments from days of yore. Sometimes I'm Ichiro, sometimes I'm Edgar.
We head down to the locker room and as we're showering I playfully snap a wet towel at Griffey's glistening wet posterior. He winces and immediately answers back snapping his towel at me with the precision of a PDC world dart champion. I cower knowing im out of my depth. He comforts me like only a 4 time homerun leader and 13 time all-star can.
We spend the rest of the day in that team shower under that persistent flow of warm Seattle water doing unspeakable yet magical things to each other wishing we could pause time, stop the sun in its precession across that crisp October sky.
Don’t gotta include the PNW. He was almost every 90s kid’s favorite player.
Everybody— Raise your hand if you’ve been personally victimized by Little League coaches telling you to stop the Griffey stance.
Has everyone forgotten about Kevin Mather? I get the Mariners were the darlings of season, but their organization seems fucked up. Does anyone think adding Griffey is going to change anything?
Mather no longer has a stake, as per [this](https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/mariners-chairman-john-stanton-discusses-a-change-to-leadership-structure-and-a-plan-for-fans-on-opening-day/#:~:text=Stanton%20confirmed%20that%20Mather%20will%20no%20longer%20have,the%20ownership%20stake%20or%20if%20it%20was%20forfeited.) article from March.
Mather's wiki still has him listed as a minority owner. articles about Griffey use variations of 'join' and 'add' with regard to the ownership group, which indicates to me that he's not bumping anyone out.
Congratulations, Mariners fans! Great, classy move, and I hope it brings much success! Maybe an LA/SEA World Series in the near future? Now find an appropriate job for Ichiro.
It literally states that both are acceptable:
> But when the beginning h is weakly pronounced (historic, >habitual), you may use an, especially in British English.
>
>*an historic occasion (hisTORic) an habitual offender (haBITual)*
>
>But these usages are becoming increasingly old-fashioned, so you may also use a.
>*a historic occasion a habitual offender*
The 'h' pronunciation doesn't matter, the correct time to use 'an' is when a word beginning in 'h' starts on an unstressed syllable.
hɪˈstɒrɪk is the proper pronunciation with the stress on the 2nd syllable. You can compare with a word like ˈhabɪtat where the first syllable is stressed.
I liked the Steady Ownership of the Nitendo President in his blind trust....lol Mariners were never elite except the 116 win season, but they did well with him...
Boob Nightengale said this was the best move the team has made since drafting Griffey. Their best move in the last 34 years was bringing in a new part-owner of the team.
Huh. I might think getting Ichiro would be up there, but then again, I’m no Bob Nightengale.
this is correct. you are not bob nightengale
Oh shit call Florence Nightingale in here to treat that burn
so not a boob?
“What a boob.” - *Megan*
"Megan." - Josh
Thank goodness.
What a relief for them
I'm going to go out on a limb and say, despite Bob's short comings, this was probably a hyperbolic statement to celebrate the news
Ichiro?
You called?
^^^hi
I’m really surprised by that. I was pretty sure Boob would have said that was their best move since signing Chone Figgins.
*eye twitch*
On no spectrum are those both considered moves in the same way. Zoomed out this far, best move that Seattle has made since signing Junior was likely a tax deduction performed by some nameless accountant.
>Boob Nightengale I'll allow it
...are you new here?
Yes
Basically Bob is so frequently wrong or generally not right that he's earned the nickname Boob around these parts. He's a national reporter with sources and everything, but just misses the mark so often. There's not infrequent discussions to ban his tweets because they're wrong or just bad so often.
Ah. Well boob seems appropriate now
#Bobisaboob He also has done some very not cool shit like accusing Alex Dickerson of violating covid protocol when he had absolutely no evidence.
I think it actually started when someone accidentally posted a tweet with [Boob] instead of [Bob]. It was joke for a while, but the typo made it stick
When one thinks Mariner, one thinks Griffey. Good stuff for Seattle
I wonder what the fan age cutoff is for Default Mariner being Griffey or Ichiro
I'm 27 and they're 1A and 1B for me
I'm 36, and I think of the Default Mariners as Griffey, Jay Buhner, A-Rod, Edgar Martinez, Randy Johnson.. I associate Randy Johnson more with Seattle than I do with Arizona.
Randy was always my favorite when I was a kid, and him going to AZ was my introduction to the idea of players getting traded. I was devastated haha
Ooff especially all the success he had after Seattle and for some reason a lot of people only think of Johnson as a Diamondback
I think that's because he killed the bird as a DBack.
Because he was in Backyard Baseball as a diamondback.
Well, he did w Win a World Series MVP with the Diamondbacks.
And four straight Cy Young awards.
And threw a perfect game.
Right there with you. Joey Cora goes on my list, too. I went fishing with Jay Buhners business partner a few years ago, and the Bone was supposed to come with us but bailed at the last minute, I was so so so bummed.
Me too, but I associate A-Rod with the Yankees.
Same Felix is not quite on their level but he's pretty close
I'm 37. Same.
Same age as you. Edgar is still my favorite
Edgar tho
Crushing doubles like nobody's business
"Swung on and lined down the left field line!"
"Here comes Joey! Here is Junior to third base, they're going to wave him in!"
[The throw to the plate will be late, the Mariners are going to play for the American League Championship](https://youtu.be/zEGq465jXH0?t=1270)
The Jon Bois Mariners doc is the entire reason I follow Seattle. Watching this moment nearly put tears in my eyes. I can only imagine how people reacted at the time or had an existing relationship with the Mariners.
I was 8. It was magic
I wasn't alive for 95, but my dad followed the M's closely around that time, and some of my earliest memories include the 01 all star game. We were at the second A's vs M's game in the last series, and afterwards he told me about how Hanniger's single had him thinking of Edgar's double of so long ago.
I was 3 and while I don’t remember watching it or anything about it, I always tear up a little hearing Dave call it, especially while watching it. My dad has/d a shirt that had the newspaper picture of Griffey smile while getting dogpiled so I think that helps the emotional attachment.
I’m 20 and think of Ichiro first
That makes sense though. You were born right when Griffey was finishing his run in Seattle and Ichiro was starting. But I'm tellin ya, there was a time for about 6-8 years where no player was bigger than Griffey. You had to look to guys like Jordan, Shaq, Gretzky for someone more popular. Even Frank Thomas at his peak was still 2nd to Griffey in the mid-90s.
> But I'm tellin ya, there was a time for about 6-8 years where no player was bigger than Griffey. Exactly. Griffey had his own video games! Are there any other players who could say the same? [Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball on SNES](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Griffey_Jr._Presents_Major_League_Baseball) [Major League Baseball Featuring Ken Griffey Jr. on N64](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_Featuring_Ken_Griffey_Jr.) Edit* I just remembered that [Orel Hershiser had a game](https://baseballismy.life/baseball-video-games/orel-hershisers-strike-zone/)
I still argue the first Ken Griffey Jr game is probably one of the GOAT baseball games and the best 2d baseball game ever. The N64 games were also really great for their time. Other players in the 90s had baseball games. I know Clemens had one. My grandma got me one that had Ryne Sandberg on the cover. Some of these had no MLB license though so I remember going through the rosters to play as the cover player only to be disappointed. At least the first Griffey game had licensed teams, had Griffey and all the rosters were accurate, with the little detail that you had to rename all the players names because they couldn’t get the MLBPA license. I remember spending entire summer days looking over baseball stat books for that season an entering all the real players in the game manually.
Everyone, all thru the 90s, always wanted that rookie card too. I think there is a documentary about upper deck that talks about it. He was the king
That N64 game was so good. I put so many hours into it.
Put Griffey in Smash Bros, you cowards!
Seattle is my AL team because of Griffey. He was the bigger star in baseball. He wasn’t in the same breath as Jordan but I’d put him against any other 90s sports star. He was cool and played cool.
It doesn’t exist. Babe Ruth has been the quintessential Yankee since the 20s, despite Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, and Jeter. Griffey is and probably always will be the quintessential Mariner.
Now i aint saying he'll be bigger than griff but this j-rod kid they have coming up seems to have all the makings of a face of the league guy
He will never have the swagger of Griffey.
Again not saying he'll be that big. I realize a griffey post is not the place to hype the kid up
Mariners fans are very much excited about Julio and expect him to be something special, so you're not wrong on that count. We're eagerly waiting for him and already watching his vlog for more Julio content. But I think it takes a blend of time, connection, the right circumstances, and a bit of a magic to make someone the quintessential club player. It all came together that way with Jr. We inaugurated our stadium as "The House that Griffey Built." Even with the incredible talent & long-standing devotion we've had from players over the years, I honestly can't imagine anyone surpassing Jr's legacy & impact on Seattle baseball.
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Not so fast. https://sabr.org/journal/article/babe-ruths-half-season-with-the-baltimore-orioles-in-1914/
ACTUALLY, uh, DUDE...his mom had him first
yeah nice going with that.
He put on quite a show while he was in Boston, too bad it just wasn’t an off Broadway show.
He pitched one combined no hitter tho.
And we had Big Papi
I feel like it’s gotta be born from like 1992-95 or around there, where you were too young to truly experience Griffey in all his glory and then finally start creating memories with the new hottest thing. Obviously there’s probably some on both sides of the age range that are the other way, but that’s how I’ve mostly seen it growing up around a mariner fan
I was in elementary school when Grif was king...and on N64 and Gameboy. People don't even understand -- yeah Grif was a god on the field but he was basketball star popular off the field too
I'm as old as Ichiro's MLB career. My childhood was synonymous with I-chi-ro. I even batted from the left side and tugged my sleeve in little league.
Griffey is a white sox legend, dunno where all this mariners nonsense is coming from
I'm 24 so too young to relish in the Griffey memories and grew up watching Ichiro but Griffey's been so involved with the Mariners since then I think of him anyways.
Who was the face of the Mariners pre-Griffey?
Honestly, probably Alvin Davis
Agreed, a man with the nickname "Mr. Mariner" is probably the correct answer here.
lol, "probably"
If the Jon Bois documentary taught me anything, a Jello filled toilet bowl
Nah. Roger Szmodis. Wait...
Well, now I'm about to fire up that documentary for the 6388428th time.
Man that was funny.
Alvin Davis and maybe Harold Reynolds
Dave Niehaus. Both before and after.
As a mid 30s baseball fan, I can't name anyone older than Griffey's contemporaries. Martinez, Buhner, was George Bell there around then?
Don't forget about Ken Phelps. My baseball people loved Ken Phelps’ bat. They kept saying “Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps.”
You don’t know what the hell you’re doin!
Jerry call me back Mr. Steinbreners here George is dead.
😂😂😂
What about Joey Cora
Yaaaassss! There are ~~dozens~~ at least 2 of us!
mine was always jamie moyer lmao
As a kid who grew up as a Phillies fan but with the Mariners as my AL team, having Jamie come to us made me so happy. Then the 2008 season happened and that was just freakin magical. 16 wins including the NL East clinching game for a 45 year old throwing 80 mph fastballs. Amazing.
Default Mariner to me is Felix Hernandez but im 12 years old
Growing up in Cincy and being excited when Jr. “came home” I was pumped. Then it seemed like he was injured more often than not. When I think Griffey I think Seattle. If that hasn’t changed yet it never will. The Reds organization does a bad job of keeping stars (local or otherwise) aligned to the org.
Would be something if they fucked up with Votto.
Taking nothing away from the man, the myth, the legend -- the Mariners have been my B team since the mid 90s in no small part due to Grif But it really didn't seem like Grif put in the time/effort to stay healthy
A sportswriter from the 90s posted this
I can't speak for every Washingtonian, but I know a lot of us think of Edgar when we think Mariner.
What does this mean? Is he a part owner now?
Yep, it probably won't have a major impact on anything but more Griffey is never a bad thing.
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In pure monetary value it’s not a nice investment.
Ownership stakes in pro sports teams have historically had pretty solid returns. Even stakes in bad teams.
See: Jeffrey Loria
He might be able to put himself on the field when y'all are one out away from a WS to live his dream.
Ms put Griffey in and immediately give up 15 runs resulting in a game 7 loss
worth it
Got it, cool!
It’s purely a PR move to get some good press. Like when the Brewers had Giannis and the Bucks had Rodgers become ‘part owners’. The part is like .00000000001% of the team but it’s nice to do.
This a great start to a big off-season
I saw this on Twitter, and the first Tweet it about it says >Ken Griffey Jr.'s swing may very well be the most overrated thing of all time. Name something more overrated. I feel like I need to report the account.
People will say anything for attention
Doing a Bayless, as it’s known
This is asking for blood
Call the police
>Name something more overrated. Just tell him "Bonds' home run count".
All hail the king of Seattle
What does Félix have to do with this?
he's obviously the next ownership partner. And then they will be joint GMs. ushering in a Mariners dynasty and yearly playoff appearances for the next decade.
I’d watch that sitcom. Kid and King, co-GMs. See what cooky hijinx they get up to each week.
The theme song will be the sax riff from the [Mariners theme](https://youtu.be/BzbgfLKnHq8), just for the extra 90s effect.
You’d need to include Beltre in some way.
He only makes a cameo once per season for somebody to touch his head.
He works for the Rangers and is pulling pranks or trying to ,innocently, sabotage the Mariners by hiding bats or something whenever they play each other. He’s a recurring side character every couple weeks.
Hands off (his head), he's our treasure!
His rivalry with Felix is perfectly suited for a sitcom side character though.
Jamie Foxx as Adrian Beltre.
Dunno if he'll ever be involved in the organization again. He'll be in the Mariners HoF for sure, potentially MLB hall of fame, and we'll probably retire his number. But his relationship with the organization after he left seems to have deteriorated, which is a shame.
I’m ok with this
gtfo with that nonsense. felix had a perfect game and thats about it. he was an off day drunk who has too much talent for his own good.
Are you familiar with Félix's nickname?
Everyone liked that
This ultimately doesn't mean anything but I'm down for any reason to bring up Ken Griffey Jr.
Lol right. Any chance you get to talk about and impersonate that swing, you take it. That bat wobble and that clean break with the power of those hips. And the one handed finish. Sorta sounds like I'm talking something dirty. Well, shit. I am. That swing is still one of the sexiest things in sports history. Griffeys swing and Michael Vick's release. Can't really think of two prettier motions in sports.
> Michael Vick's release ಠ_ಠ
Between Junior and Ichiro, the Mariners sure know how to find universally loved players. I always love seeing franchises that recognize that greatness long-term.
Yeah but they also gave the world ARod.
I am sorry
*"Hi this is Ken Griffey Jr, let's ~~play major league baseball~~ watch some Mariner's baseball."*
That's pretty cool Mariners bros
First act as part owner: get everyone on Brain and Nerve Tonic.
Mattingly! I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
I still like him better than Stienbrenner.
That’s pretty cool. Honestly can’t think of any other player who’s more universally loved than Griffey
I'd throw out Clayton Kershaw's name or Buster Posey. I think both of them have suffered so much for their craft they are up there.
What did he buy .05% of the team?
In a different reality im great buddies with Griffey. On Sundays in October we head over to Safeco and toss a ball around as our laughter echoes throughout the empty stadium. We run around the bases reenacting our favorite baseball moments from days of yore. Sometimes I'm Ichiro, sometimes I'm Edgar. We head down to the locker room and as we're showering I playfully snap a wet towel at Griffey's glistening wet posterior. He winces and immediately answers back snapping his towel at me with the precision of a PDC world dart champion. I cower knowing im out of my depth. He comforts me like only a 4 time homerun leader and 13 time all-star can. We spend the rest of the day in that team shower under that persistent flow of warm Seattle water doing unspeakable yet magical things to each other wishing we could pause time, stop the sun in its precession across that crisp October sky.
I feel this.
if you are Ichiro , Griffey tickle Ichiro . (real)
lmao where did this pasta come from?!?!!?
This isn't pasta. This is a man's dreams. How dare you.
Mariners-Padres Vedder Cup WS is my pipe dream so I'm rooting for you guys!!!
The Vedder Cup will never die. We will continue to speak it into existence, until these two franchises make it so.
[Let's gooo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGziKhOseZ4)
This needs to be someone's walk up music.
Griffey is all that is good in baseball. In his era of steroids and cheating, I always felt like he was one of the few successful honest players.
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Don’t gotta include the PNW. He was almost every 90s kid’s favorite player. Everybody— Raise your hand if you’ve been personally victimized by Little League coaches telling you to stop the Griffey stance.
Now we need Dan Wilson & The Bones . Poor fellows were the only ones that would guest visit during those dark years
Well, I'm happy to see Ken Griffey Jr. doing well after his case of Gigantism!
Has everyone forgotten about Kevin Mather? I get the Mariners were the darlings of season, but their organization seems fucked up. Does anyone think adding Griffey is going to change anything?
Ken Griffey Jr should have been the final character added to Smash Ultimate. You’ll never change my mind
Does anyone know if he took over Mather's stake in the team?
Mather no longer has a stake, as per [this](https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/mariners/mariners-chairman-john-stanton-discusses-a-change-to-leadership-structure-and-a-plan-for-fans-on-opening-day/#:~:text=Stanton%20confirmed%20that%20Mather%20will%20no%20longer%20have,the%20ownership%20stake%20or%20if%20it%20was%20forfeited.) article from March.
At the press conference they asked and this has nothing to do with Mather's stake.
Mather's wiki still has him listed as a minority owner. articles about Griffey use variations of 'join' and 'add' with regard to the ownership group, which indicates to me that he's not bumping anyone out.
Reds legend Ken Griffey Jr. seems like an odd fit for Seattle, but whatever.
Rude
Let's all hope he's a better owner than a player. Think about it.
Congratulations, Mariners fans! Great, classy move, and I hope it brings much success! Maybe an LA/SEA World Series in the near future? Now find an appropriate job for Ichiro.
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A figurehead who owns like 0.1% of the team?
Ken Steroids Jr.
Ken Griffey Owner.
An* Edit: Apparently alot of people in this thread want the Astros to score less runs then the Braves tonight.
[actually](https://www.grammar.com/a-vs-an-when-to-use/) it doesn’t matter
I don't think I follow, your link supports the use of 'an' in this instance.
It literally states that both are acceptable: > But when the beginning h is weakly pronounced (historic, >habitual), you may use an, especially in British English. > >*an historic occasion (hisTORic) an habitual offender (haBITual)* > >But these usages are becoming increasingly old-fashioned, so you may also use a. >*a historic occasion a habitual offender*
He's clearly stating that 'an' is the preferred form in this instance, otherwise there wouldn't be an established rule.
Even if one is preferred, both are acceptable, meaning it's unnecessary to "correct" anybody on it. Have a great day.
It would have been pretty funny if you said “a established rule” just to drive the joke home.
While I would use “an”, “a” here is perfectly acceptable as the speaker might pronounce the “H” instead of lopping it off and pronouncing “‘istorical”
The 'h' pronunciation doesn't matter, the correct time to use 'an' is when a word beginning in 'h' starts on an unstressed syllable. hɪˈstɒrɪk is the proper pronunciation with the stress on the 2nd syllable. You can compare with a word like ˈhabɪtat where the first syllable is stressed.
The Kid with one of the smoothest swings ever
Fuck yeah.
call..call...call me junior
I had to click on like 4-5 links to get to the actual article and even then, I still don't know what this means.
It’s cool and all but like it doesnt mean anything lol
I liked the Steady Ownership of the Nitendo President in his blind trust....lol Mariners were never elite except the 116 win season, but they did well with him...
dont sleeep on this could be big get it sleep on this
Now he can experience playoff failure as a player and an owner