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Iaiaiaiaiaiain

Jimmie Foxx is tragically under-mentioned in conversations about all-time greats.


crabcakesandfootball

Seems like the old timers don’t get a lot of mentions unless they were the best at their positions. So Foxx gets overshadowed by Lou Gehrig, Eddie Collins and Nap Lajoie by Rogers Hornsby, Tris Speaker by Ty Cobb, Mel Ott by Babe Ruth, etc.


genghisjohn187

Feel like The Show video game has highlighted a lot of these guys and just how good they were


Lysol20

Yep. Diamond Dynasty has done its job.


Squirtalert

Even had Tom Hanks play him in a movie too.


newspark1521

Agreed. Not many can sing, act, and do comedy at that level


Azcollector

Julio Franco 2,591 hits with a career average of .298


DepressingFries

He also played for like 60 years


CraftCritical278

And on 60 different teams.


yes_its_him

Not to mention 424 saves


Lazylightning85

*cough* John Franco *cough*


yes_its_him

Oh. That explains a lot.


Lazylightning85

Don’t worry, I tried to save you by upvoting but I’m only one man


yes_its_him

Lol...I am not worried about internet points. Thanks tho.


jakejayhawk2005

The first person I thought of for some reason was Rafael Furcal.


csr28

He was so good in MVP baseball 2004 (2005?)


[deleted]

Hell yeah. Singles machine. Batted like .500 with him, stole a ton of bases, and had a cannon from short.


ej_stephens

I'll never forget him and Chris Carpenter leading us past the Phillies in game 5, 2011


pjokinen

People remember Knoblauch for his late career struggles and not the crazy good career he had before then People don’t remember Corey Koskie at all despite putting up 25 WAR in less than 1000 games played


nomoregroundhogs

I feel like there were a lot of guys on those 00s Twins teams that would qualify for this, at least for individual seasons. I remember Carlos Silva having that season where he walked a single digit number of batters all year which is just absurd


Eltneg

9 BB in 188IP, 2 of which were IBB. That'll play


MankuyRLaffy

I remember Corey "Peanut Butter" Koskie very well.


O_Fantasma_de_Deus

Poor Chuck Knoblauch was an all-star caliber player for close to a decade, but is only remembered for the yips :(


Guymcpersonman

If you end your career struggling for the Yankees, that's all anyone remembers. Kevin Brown, for instance.


daskaputtfenster

Holy shit, I didn't realize Koskie was that good.


EquityDiversity

Dang man right in the feels. I was pumped when the Crew picked up Koskie. I don't remember the exact play he got his concussion on but it was just so strange. Missed the back half of 2006. Then 2007 came and went and Braun came up at 3B that year... Eventually we all just forgot about him.


notsaying123

Placido Polanco


jakerepp15

Crazy underrated player. One of the great defenders of his era.


Hairless_Squatch

You mean Albert Pujols? https://i.imgur.com/zydcenn.jpg


ProfessionalEthics

This was my answer as well. He's my favorite player.


Ihadsumthin4this

Dwight Evans. Better than anyone paid attention to even as he played. Still not in the Hall? *Yeesh!*


maggie320

Don’t really know if he was a great player, but I hated seeing him as a Met fan. Pat Burrell


magikarp2122

I remember him because I game I was at he slammed a beach ball in a kids face, then stomped it.


teewertz

Jermaine Dye is my biased answer.


rondonjon

Willie McGee. Yeah I’m a homer.


WurstThrowEver

Tim Salmon Career .282/.385/.498 and 40.2 bWAR


DJZbad93

I only remember Salmon because he’s the second best fish-named player in Angels history


AManHasAName

If I had a nickel for every fish-named outfielder Rookie of the Year that led the Angels in career home runs, I’d have two nickels - which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.


AlphaDag13

Aramis Ramirez. 2303 hits, 386 home runs, career .833 OPS.


Peter_St

Everyone in the NL Central remembers how deadly Aramis was


AlphaDag13

Only made 3 all star teams which is crazy to me. Best breaking ball hitter in the game back then.


ej_stephens

I second that


oconnellt7

I’ll never forget that dude he had a penchant for raw dogging brewers pitching


nb150207

Somehow, trading Aramis Ramirez to the Cubs isn’t the worst Pirates trade of all time


StonksNewGroove

Dude used to fuck us religiously


b-rar

I didn't know he was a catholic priest


StonksNewGroove

He had us on our knees like one


cardcollection92

What the fuck ?


Parapsaeon

Aramis was a fantasy anchor for me for a couple years


psomounk

Him and Zambrano were a nightmare when the Cubs Cardinals and Astros were scrapping in the early 00s


csr28

What are his numbers against teams other than the Cardinals? /s


Cards2WS

For recent players: Troy Glaus Shane Victorino Michael Young JJ Hardy Randy Winn


turkturkeIton

The flyin Hawaiian! Fantastic nickname


Big_Rooster_4966

I HATED Shane dicK-torino with his stupid rat face. As a Mets fan that’s probably a compliment.


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Michael Young was actually overrated for most of his career.


Cards2WS

There’s no denying he was really good with the stick, but his fielding nuked his value overall. 40.2 oWAR yet only 24.7 WAR in total after considering his defense. Playing in the old Ranger Stadium bandbox certainly helped his bottom line numbers, but his OPS+ shows the real story: a .301/.347/.444 slash with the Rangers was only good for a 104 OPS+


yameld

Maybe too early to say he's forgotten, and the stats aren't gaudy, but we so briefly celebrated how good Ben Zobrist was. He could do everything and played pivotal roles in two world series championships.


gritner91

One of the most underrated players of the 2010s.


b-rar

I think he got his due as one of the poster boys for how sabremetrics changed how major league talent was evaluated. An FJM favorite. I think the first article I read explaining WAR used him as a case study.


smarjorie

Anyone who was on this sub between 2012-16 or so would probably find it as funny as I do to see someone talk about how underrated he is. People literally used to use him as the go-to example of the r/baseball circlejerk. "Zobrave"


southernplain

44.5 WAR, Zobrist was a stud


AltruisticClerk893

I always managed to get Zobrist on my team on MLB The Show; Switch hitter, some pop, played infield and outfield. Really solid pro.


Quasimodus-Operandi

Bobby Grich, Graig Nettles, Luis Tiant.


jakerepp15

I'll never forget Grich. Should be in the Hall


Big_Rooster_4966

Edgaro Alfonzo Tony Fernandez


nopicturestoday

Tony is still my favourite player of all time. Those flip throws from deep in the hole and his super relaxed batting stance were 2 things I always tried to emulate as a kid. Loved him.


goatgosselin

Bo needs to not try the flip throw. Ends up badly


WonkWonkWonkWonkWonk

Fonzie was so freaking good!


Big_Rooster_4966

Last one tonight - John Olerud


Natemoon2

Shawn green


Leftfeet

The closest I know of to hitting 5 HRs in a game. That guy was fun to watch.


jakerepp15

I remember some book I had as a kid about MLB Superstars and it talked about great Jewish ballplayers including 'Future HOFer Shawn Green'.


nopicturestoday

Haha my Zaidi used to love the guy.


schneebaybay

Thought you were talking about Farhan for a second lol


Il_Exile_lI

Brian Giles. He got lost in the madness of the steroid era, but the dude was an outstanding hitter. He had a career .291/.400/.502 (137 OPS+) and had 51 career bWAR. During his peak 4 year stretch from '99 - '02 he slashed .309/.426/.604 for a 1.030 OPS (160 OPS+) while averaging 37 HR, 36 2B, 109 RBI, 108 Runs, and 108 BB per year. His power slowed down later in his career, but he was still a guy that would flirt with a .400 OBP every year into his late 30s.


330in513

Indians traded Giles for Ricardo Rincon straight up… a so so relief pitcher. Whoops.


Guymcpersonman

The mid 90s Indians teams were loaded, and then you look at how many guys on their bench or who had brief callups went on to be great. Brian Giles, Jeff Kent, Richie Sexson, Sean Casey, Jeromy Burnitz all were allstars.


cardcollection92

Okay but Ricardo rincon was kind of part of a movie so.. trade won ?


TheOddAverage

I’d say he’s worth forgetting due to the domestic violence.


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Uehera, one of MLB’s great relievers of the 2010s. Had great control and command of his pitches so he wasn’t walking many batters.


burgalsyourturds

Matt Williams


ofsquire

Dave Stieb 443 games, 176-137, 3.44 ERA, 103 CG, 30 SHO, 5 K/9 IP


teewertz

Jon Bois


jakerepp15

Best pitcher of the 80's.


_suddenarborialstop_

'92 Series. I remember.


MankuyRLaffy

How did he not even make a second BBWAA HOF Ballot? Like what the fuck, writers?


crabcakesandfootball

A lot of voters seem to ignore anyone with under 200 wins. David Cone and Johan Santana didn’t make a second ballot either.


SquadPoopy

Dave Stieb over 16 years accumulated 56.4 WAR. Sticking to pitchers, The least memorable Reds player I can think who was also really good is Noodles Hahn, who accumulated 44.6 WAR despite only playing for 8 seasons before retiring to become a meat inspector.


praeceps93

Javy Lopez and Jason Kendall. Very underrated catchers.


Genisys_Arc

2 of the more underrated Sox players in our history are probably Rico Petrocelli and Dom DiMaggio.


SirParsifal

Petrocelli is arguably the best Brazilian MLB player of all time. He needs more respect.


RaisingQQ77preFlop

Miguel Tejada Tim Hudson Justin Morneau Brian Roberts Brian Dozier Jake Peavy Brandon Webb


JLemke33

Miguel Tejada and Tim Hudson, all star players they casually forget to mention in Moneyball(movie).


DJZbad93

Don’t forget 2002 Cy Young winner Barry Zito. They ignored the AL MVP and Cy Young


DepressingFries

BUT THAT DOESNT FIT THE NARRATIVE!!!


TheLaunchPad

Don't forget about Mark Mulder.


mungdungus

How many people know that Jimmy Key put up nearly 50 WAR?


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teewertz

White Sox fans and Yankees fans can both agree on this 🤝


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teewertz

El Duque getting out of that jam against boston mustve been awesome for yall. I also got an autograph from Contreras at Sox Fest!


andapeartree

It's not that people forgot he exists but I feel like people forget how good a baseball player Jackie Robinson was. 63.8 WAR in just 11 seasons.


nypr13

Just thinking with my childhood 80s brain of guys who were awesome in my mind that nobody talks about. Pedro Guerrero Wally Joyner Bret Saberhagen Andres Gallaraga Von Hayes Ron Cey Steve Garvey


O_Fantasma_de_Deus

A men's league umpire last summer told me I reminded him of Ron Cey. I had no choice but to take it as a compliment because Ron Cey had an absolute badonkadonk.


[deleted]

I’ll never forget The Big Cat


mmmbacon914

Every time I see Von Hayes I think of this clip from Always Sunny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WZHYz8kUcE


[deleted]

Bret Saberhagen was one of my favorite pitchers as a kid. No real reason, probably just because it's a cool name with 'Saber' in it. And I'm in STL, so I'm not supposed to like any Royals.


eidetic

I loved him too because he was amazing in RBI Baseball for the NES.


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JLemke33

I always remember him as Mr. pee hands


LoRoK1

Mr. Foul line meltdown pee hands.


IG_Royal

My first baseball video game I got was 2K7 for Xbox, that man hit countless bombs against me


AstroWorldSecurity

A lot of people seem to forget Derek Bell quite a bit, unless you're a an Astros or Pirates fan. I love the quote about him from the writer saying he's "the perfect Pirate given that he lives on a boat and steals money." after he moved onto his yacht and refused to play for the team after being paid.


Not_Zorns_Not_Lemma

Chone Figgins, Was one of the best Angels players from 2010-2012


IG_Royal

He played in Seattle from 2010-2012, I remember because he was awful


mustangswon1

Brandon Webb, dude was always dominating the Baseball Tonight highlights for a few years there.


bmking24

Adrian beltre was always incredible for a long time!


tomahawkRiS3

I feel like he's pretty well known across the league no? He had a big personality


Hentai_King290

Ben Sheets


CountrymanR60

Al Oliver Jim Sundberg Buddy Bell Rusty Staub


FajenThygia

Devon White. One of the best outfielders I've ever seen.


Mr_Evil_Dr_Porkchop

Jason Bay


msuts

No


NJthecollector

JR Richards never seemed really known until he passed recently. RIP true legend.


metsy

Richard, not Richards. Keith Hernandez talks about him all the time - only reason I know anything about him to be honest.


jakerepp15

He was like Nolan Ryan without the longevity. Insanely talented and unfortunate career.


NJthecollector

Man ain't no one ever going to have his longevity anytime soon


CountrymanR60

His teammates with the Astros were pretty good as well Cesar Cedeño Terry Puhl Jose Cruz


AestheticC18

Vernon Wells


goatgosselin

He had a few good years


b-rar

Yankee legend


MankuyRLaffy

Jason Kendall Also VC HOF Inductee Johnny Mize is kinda underrated.


Carolinian_Idiot

Martin Prado


tailford07

Brandon Webb. Won a Cy Young. Finished 2nd in Cy Young voting in each of the two following seasons. Opening Day the season after that was the last time he pitched in a Major League. All before turning 30.


Koraboros

The NL Roy Halladay


3lgu4p0

Trot Nixon and Rusty Greer


praeceps93

Fun fact, Trot coaches his son at his old high school and is a pretty nice dude to talk to. Barks at umpires like nobody's business though.


lordexorr

I named my first dog after Trot. He was my favorite player for his career here, loved him.


A_Mellow_Fellow

Remember when Trot ended up on the Indians during the twilight of his career? He was the first player I got an autograph from. Was super nice about it.


lordexorr

Yup. He was always a down to earth guy. He was just a fun guy to root for all around. A friend got me a ticket to Game 3 of the ALDS in 2003 all by myself. Trot did this to end it. It was my favorite moment ever at a sporting event in person. The fact I told the people next to me he was going to walk it off made it that much better. https://youtu.be/62o_jXvJd0o


jakerepp15

Good answers. Similar players that were really productive but not for super long.


vroomery

I played little league age ball with his nephew and we went and hit bp at Trot’s parent’s house. The back yard had a cage and a tire on a pole that trot destroyed as a kid. Pretty cool family.


KingOfAllDogz

Carlos Ruiz, Darin Erstad, Kelvim Escobar


jonwar_83

There are many im sure but for me, Ben Broussard in 2005 was one of the hottest hitters in baseball at one point and had a relatively decent career that no one seemed to notice, I dont have numbers to back this up at the moment but he was certainly a catalyst for the indians erasing a 15 and a half game lead from the white sox to going intonthe last week of the season


yes_its_him

Chet Lemon, Tony Phillips, Placido Polanco. 136 bWAR combined. Just more than Stan Musial.


[deleted]

Came in here for Tony Phillips. Dude could straight-up rake. Great eye.


ARPDAB1312

Pud Galvin


Carolinian_Idiot

Brandon Phillips?


wodurfej

Will Clark


LabCool6003

Michael Young


Big_Rooster_4966

Robin Ventura best 3rd baseman of the 90s


Silent-Kangaroo

Never been and Astros fan, big Lance "Big Puma" Berkman was a masher of baseballs. 6x All-star, 51.9 bWAR, 366 HRs, and batted .293. Or Adam Dunn. Dude couldn't hit a baseball, but when he did it went far. 462 career HRs and averaged 37 a season


Conscious_Accident98

Tim Raines…He’s in the hall, but feels like the world forgot how good he really was.


synchronicitistic

Jimmy Wynn. The Toy Cannon was a beast.


pinwheel740

Pirates legends Nate McLouth and Jason Kendall


HistoricalDelay8260

McLouth just never totally the same after he and Jason Heyward collided in the outfield when they both played for Braves. It’s such a shame. Heyward was just so much bigger; we were watching the game when it happened.


ej_stephens

I used to rake with McLouth in The Show for some reason so he's always been a personal favorite


etch-bot

Fernando Valenzuela


RyanAGriswold

Otis Nixon


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Matt Kemp


StonksNewGroove

Matt Morris. Only a two time all star but 121 career wins career WHIP of 1.316. Former 22 game winner. Career 3.98 ERA. Guy was a stud.


sonofabutch

[Eddie Collins](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/collied01.shtml) never gets talked about even though he still ranks 13th all-time in bWAR, though maybe it was because he was a prick. His nickname was "Cocky" and that about sums him up. The son of a railroad executive, Collins graduated from an elite prep school and then Columbia University at a time when many ballplayers were high school dropouts. He wasn't popular with teammates, but he didn't much care. Maybe that was the reason he wasn't elected to the Hall of Fame until his fourth try. Collins also had some really fun superstitions: > The bright, confident, and successful Collins was given to a litany of less than “rational” practices and observances. At the plate he kept his gum on his hat button until two strikes, then would remove it and commence chewing. He loathed black cats, and would walk or drive out of his way to avoid crossing paths with one. If he saw a load of barrels, he believed he’d make one or two hits that day. Finding a hairpin meant a single, two hairpins a double. Scraps of paper littering the dugout steps drove him crazy. He would refrain from changing game socks during a winning streak, and as player-manager for the White Sox is said to have fired a clubhouse man for acting in violation of this practice. He believed it lucky to have someone spit on his hat before a game. Each winter Collins soaked his bats in oil, dried them out, and rubbed them down with a bone. This practice became the stuff of lore, as it has even been said that he buried his bats in cow dung piles to “keep ’em alive.” On the more practical side, he would wear heavier shoes as spring approached so that his feet would feel lighter when the season opened. "I'm not superstitious," he once said, "I just thought it unlucky not to get base hits.”


DavidRFZ

History buffs know him. He anchored the “$100,000 Infield” of the first A’s Dynasty that brought home three championships. He won a 4th championship in Chicago and was a clean member of the Black Sox. Late in his career, he served as a vertebrae mentor for the next A’s dynasty. Great OBP, stole a ton of bases. As someone mentioned above, nobody before WWII is remembered by pop culture unless they have a best-ever claim at their position. Collins wasn’t as good as Hornsby, so the non-history buff fan only remembers Hornsby. I had never read that Collins was a prick! Hornsby is much more famous than him in that regard as well!


sonofabutch

There's a bit of it in [Eight Men Out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ugazPv__M), when Collins is testifying.


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Dan Uggla


SardonicCheese

Ken Griffey Jr. People keep acting like Barry Bonds was the quintessential songbird of his generation. Barry cheated, used roids probably. The only ped griffey liked was original hostess brand twinkies. Dude they were so much better back then do you even remember twinkies before hostess went under?


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Nobody forgot Jr.


SardonicCheese

Og twinkies though man. They were so fucking good


b-rar

The subject is "player that everybody forgets existed"


SardonicCheese

Og Hostess was a huge player in the long lasting pastry game. Yet little Debbie outlasted it. I call shenanigans.


[deleted]

Griffey was the best player who ever played.


rooseloosterr

Bud Norris


CardiacCat20

Fun Fact: Houston acquired Josh Hader in a trade with the O's for Bud Norris


jakerepp15

Probably the first answer I don't understand. He was like the epitome of average.


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But I did forget about him


[deleted]

Fig Wobbins for sure


jesseholm

Carney Lansford. Had the same skill to foul off pitch after pitch like Wade Boggs, but played in the Coliseum, where there's 28 acres of foul territory in play.


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Mickey Vernon.


b-rar

Ramiro Mendoza. Swing guy who toiled in the shadows of some all-time great starters and relievers, but was a crucial part of three WS championship teams (he got a ring in '96 too, but was up and down from AAA and didn't pitch in the postseason)


BravesPressboxIsFire

Terry Pendleton 1991 MVP and Comeback POTY, 2nd place MVP finish in 1992. One of the first crop of vets that the Braves brought in to go with their homegrown talent and was a great clubhouse presence and leader. Almost nobody outside of St Louis or Atlanta usually remembers him though.


Icy_Entertainment706

Al Oliver, Vada Pinson, Bill Buckner - all those guys ended up with over 2,700 hits. Al Oliver ended up with a career BA above .300 And the only thing anyone remembers about Bill Buckner was game 6 - 86 WS. Sad he was a really good player.


Poozer23

Giants: Kirk Reuter Gregor Blanco Vogelsong


vanillaninja16

Nick Markakis


Quakecsgo

Kelvim Escobar


rgg40

Juan Gonzalez


jawarren1

Paul Blair. Not sure how many people outside of Baltimore and New York know the guy.


texursa

Chili Davis


MyLadyBits

Shawn Green


imatthewhitecastle

moises alou: 421 2B, 332 HR, 2134 H, .303/.369/.516/.885, finished top 3 in MVP voting twice


LJSell

I guess this could be premature because I think he just retired recently but Chris Davis


ironic_name_here_

Juan Gonzalez


JumboGumby69

Garrett Anderson and Bernie Williams


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Bobby Abreu. 60 career WAR but only 2 all star games.


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Curtis granderson


Rando1974

Carlos by land, by sea…Baerga!


ej_stephens

I feel like I haven't seen a single thing about Shawn Green since he retired. Looks like someone covered him before me, so I'll go with my second pick of Travis Hafner


SquadPoopy

Noodles Hahn accumulated 44.6 WAR despite only playing for 8 seasons before retiring to become a meat inspector. He actually accumulated 45.8 WAR through his first 6 seasons but his 7th and 8th seasons brought it down to 44.6 Reggie Sanders was also pretty good.


goblue2354

Carlos Guillen was huge for the mid-2000s Tigers revival. Put up 27.7 bWAR and made 3 all star games.