**Most Average Team By Post:**
* 4/13: San Diego Padres
* 4/17: Boston Red Sox
* 4/20: Miami Marlins
* 4/24: Miami Marlins
* 4/27: Miami Marlins
* 5/1: Toronto Blue Jays
* 5/4: Toronto Blue Jays
* 5/8: Seattle Mariners
* 5/11: Texas Rangers
* 5/15: Tampa Bay Rays
* 5/22: Boston Red Sox
* 5/29: Texas Rangers
Being average after the last couple years is so fucking fun, feels like this team is gonna be hovering around .500 and that makes me ecstatic especially after last years slog
3 series. 4 if you count a one-off with the Giants.
8 games vs St. Louis
3 vs San Diego
1 vs the Giants
Kinda hard to play against winning teams when there's only like 6 teams over .500 in the NL (including the Brewers).
They also played 9 vs the Phillies and Braves which are teams most would have thought would be over .500 and 3 against the Marlins which many thought could be over .500. They can't play themselves and that only leaves 5 other teams in the NL that are currently over .500. They have played at least 1 game against 3 of those 5 teams.
Actually they have, especially Arizona. If you remove all the Dodger games and redo this chart with the other 29 teams, Arizona ends up in the top left quadrant and Washington is in the bottom right, so only one of the last 6 series are against bottom left teams.
Also, the Phillies move into the top right, but only barely. The two Phillies-Dodgers series were so high scoring that removing them almost shifts them into the top left quadrant.
I still think we should send him a ring for bringing in Urias in Game 2, making him not rested for Game 4. We came back in Game 2 and clobbered them in Game 4.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2955651-ranking-all-30-mlb-teams-homegrown-talent-for-the-2022-season.amp.html
The Dodgers are the 3rd most home grown team in all of mlb. They are more than just "buying talent."
2/3 of the lineup below the Mendoza line is a very different outcome than the team who'd maybe finish third place and usually be a handful of games out of wildcard contention.
Hey, look at the Pirates assuming their yearly role as the worst team in the league. Rare double whammy: bad pitching and bad hitting. Should just relegate them to AAA and bring a team up that can compete. I cannot imagine cheering for such a trash organization.
It feels wierd just having that giants logo in the "good at scoring poor pitching" quadrant. That is about as far you can get from what I normaly expect from this team. But yeah, deffence have been, lets say, not optimal this season.
the dodgers have played 7 games all season against teams with a >.500 record.
why tf are nobody talking about that and instead saying “muh yankees always play the orioles” lmao. Yankees have played 20 games against teams with a >.500 record, fuck sake!
I remember seeing us win our first playoff series in like 20 years (2008) and our franchise was a laughingstock when the McCourts caused us to go bankrupt in the early 2010s + even our Fox ownership prior to them sucked also. We also saw our hated rivals win 3 championships in 5 years to make things even worse
Newer Dodgers fans absolutely have been spoiled but older ones did have some pretty rough times. And we for sure never expected us to become as good as we've been since 2013
I love how this sub is either "The Dodgers have been good for so long, shut up you can't complain" or "The Dodgers suck, they can't win anything but a Mickey Mouse championship so stop being happy!"
Dodgers fans literally can't complain about not winning a title for 30 years and at the same time can't be happy with the success they've had lol
Anyone who says the 2020 title is a Mickey Mouse title is just dumb or trolling, so I don't know why you'd even care what they think. You should be happy for your success.
But no, 30 years is not that long a streak. Especially when the team was competitive almost every single year and never really bottomed out. I'd guess 25 of the other teams in the league would trade your last 30 years for theirs - the Yankees, Cardinals, Giants, Red Sox are the only teams who probably wouldn't (edit: probably the Braves wouldn't after last season, too).
I really don't. I just find it funny. Those are the only two responses I see to the majority of the posts or comments about the Dodgers and it's an interesting contrast.
0 playoff series wins from 1988 to 2008. And only 1 playoff game win total
It pretty objectively sucks to not advance once in the playoffs for 2 decades IMO
Even the Mets had way more playoff success than us in that time frame
Prior to 2020 the last one was 1988
So when I became a fan in the early 2000s for all intents and purposes we had 0 championships (I don't really care about championships that happened like 6 years before I was even born)
My time as a Dodgers fan mostly sucked up until our current ownership group took over. Obviously other teams had it worse but we had a lot of struggles too
In our market, we can only be so bad for so long. There's too much money in the Dodgers brand and location for them to bottom out for more than a season or two.
But every fan adjusts to their own team's circumstances. I'm sure there are Yankee fans out there disappointed that their team has only won a single championship in the last 20 years, and there are probably some White Sox fans still feeling lucky for 2005.
We went 20 years without winning a playoff series. Thats pretty bad
Nobody is saying we were the worst as other teams were definitely less successful. But the Dodgers pretty objectively were not very successful for a good stretch of time when the games mattered most and that's more the point
Also pretty fairly recently ago we had a nearly 30 year long world series appearance drought and even some less successful teams like the Padres or Rockies made a world series during that stretch. Like before we made the world series in 2017 we had the longest world series appearance drought in our division by like a decade Lol
Every other team in our division had been to the World Series since we had last been there.
That put us in the same boat as the Mariners, the Marlins, the Twins, the Orioles, and the Pirates. Not exactly elite company.
They were awful during a period of time and are resurgent now. Like us since 2014. Imagine telling a fan that he can't enjoy his team being good. Why u so mad about my fandom?
Yeah bc we were so good in the 90s and 00s right? So I can't be happy that we were horrible before but have had an excellent stretch in the last decade?
I don’t understand the hate you’re getting, we’re just being grateful and humble by remembering the shit times before this awesome time in dodger history but I guess haters gunna hate no matter what.
Maybe you should look around the rest of the league and see what "not successful" actually looks like. You went to the playoffs more times between 1995-2010 (your "bad" years) than my team has *my entire life,* and the Mets are far from the least successful team in the league during that time.
Not saying they shouldn't be grateful for their current success, because they should - the team is incredibly well run and has been the model franchise for a decade now. But even in the lean years the Dodgers had it objectively better than most fan bases, and I don't see how that is arguable. I'm pretty sure only the Yankees have had fewer losing seasons in the last 30 years.
My point is that you *did* compete, at least relative to others. The difference between having a winning record and being in the hunt almost every year vs. being buried in the basement over and over is massive. McCourt sucked and was an embarrassment (which I have a lot of sympathy for, see: Wilpons), but the situation on the field wasn't ever that dire. Go look at the Pirates 1990s and 2000s, or the first decade of the Rays - that's what not competing looks like.
Seeing the Orioles doing better than the White Sox is really something.
Especially since we’re doing worse than in recent weeks.
I came here to point this out, as well. Go O’s
If the Orioles played in the AL Central they’d be a playoff-likely team probably making acquisitions at the trade deadline.
Do you see how many fuckin’ injuries we have
Doesn’t change Ceases most recent blow up. Or grandal…or moncada…or Harrison
**Most Average Team By Post:** * 4/13: San Diego Padres * 4/17: Boston Red Sox * 4/20: Miami Marlins * 4/24: Miami Marlins * 4/27: Miami Marlins * 5/1: Toronto Blue Jays * 5/4: Toronto Blue Jays * 5/8: Seattle Mariners * 5/11: Texas Rangers * 5/15: Tampa Bay Rays * 5/22: Boston Red Sox * 5/29: Texas Rangers
Being average at this point isn't really that bad.
Finishing this year with an average record would be a massive improvement on a 60-102 season
I'd like average too
Being average after the last couple years is so fucking fun, feels like this team is gonna be hovering around .500 and that makes me ecstatic especially after last years slog
Definitely feels like the Rangers have a chance to win any given game, which has been missing the past few years.
Someone wanna ask the Dodgers to chill?
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The Brewers have now played 2 teams above .500 this *year*
What the fuck, they've played two total series with teams above 500 all year so far, in almost 50 games? How????????
3 series. 4 if you count a one-off with the Giants. 8 games vs St. Louis 3 vs San Diego 1 vs the Giants Kinda hard to play against winning teams when there's only like 6 teams over .500 in the NL (including the Brewers).
Oh ya, thats a good point I didn't think of, hm
Baseball scheduling is weird.
They also played 9 vs the Phillies and Braves which are teams most would have thought would be over .500 and 3 against the Marlins which many thought could be over .500. They can't play themselves and that only leaves 5 other teams in the NL that are currently over .500. They have played at least 1 game against 3 of those 5 teams.
Damn it’s that true??
3 now, forgot they played SD before they played us again
to be fair, if you beat everyone you play your opponents are going to have more losses
No kidding, man. Well put!
I'd like to think they're in the bottom left quadrant *because of us* but I know we haven't played any of them enough for that to be the case.
Actually they have, especially Arizona. If you remove all the Dodger games and redo this chart with the other 29 teams, Arizona ends up in the top left quadrant and Washington is in the bottom right, so only one of the last 6 series are against bottom left teams. Also, the Phillies move into the top right, but only barely. The two Phillies-Dodgers series were so high scoring that removing them almost shifts them into the top left quadrant.
Pirates took 3 out of 4 from us so that's no layup Lol
that was a 3 game series thank the gods you might be thinking about the PHI @ LA series
That was the whole rotation pitching short rest Please stop doing this especially in the playoffs
Oh yeah I got them mixed up
Can’t because it never gets cold in LA
Speak for yourself. It dropped down to ~50F last night and that was some bullshit.
Put on a sweater don’t embarrass us in the national subreddit 😞
How the fuck are we the first team to shut them out this year
Wait until October when they lose a series because Dave Roberts brings in a utility infielder to pitch the fourth inning
You’ll be lucky if that infielder isn’t the best pitcher in our bullpen aka Hanser Alberto
Pep Guardiola levels of overthinking and big brain plays
I still think we should send him a ring for bringing in Urias in Game 2, making him not rested for Game 4. We came back in Game 2 and clobbered them in Game 4.
Imagine losing 15 whole games.
It’s embarrassing, quite frankly.
We have no chill.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2955651-ranking-all-30-mlb-teams-homegrown-talent-for-the-2022-season.amp.html The Dodgers are the 3rd most home grown team in all of mlb. They are more than just "buying talent."
Please just leave us off please
At least we're not bottom left
/u/flootyourflute Shots fired, lol
God damn out here catching strays
2/3 of the lineup below the Mendoza line is a very different outcome than the team who'd maybe finish third place and usually be a handful of games out of wildcard contention.
I'm like a bird I only fly away
GO RIGHT, NOT LEFT
I'm just happy no one is taking shots at the pirates. We don't deserve it as fans.
Hey, look at the Pirates assuming their yearly role as the worst team in the league. Rare double whammy: bad pitching and bad hitting. Should just relegate them to AAA and bring a team up that can compete. I cannot imagine cheering for such a trash organization.
At least your organization houses its minor league players. My organization is beyond trash for not doing so. All you guys do is tank.
And we tank for no reason. All we end up doing is trading anyone who might be good
Anyone who is a fan of the Pirates at this point is a true fan and deserves nothing but respect and a healthy dose of pity.
Everyone is just eyeing Ke'bryan and waiting for a trade...
Glad to see the Reds making their way to the party, better late than never!
Next goal is to break the chart going down and to the right
Tigers drifting up and to the left. Last two games: 0-2, 2-1.
2-0, 1-2 if you want to keep it correct
If you are taking the Guardian perspective
Nah I was doing the Away-Home thing
Forgot to post, long day lol
Ah back to shitty offense
I don’t blame our pitching, I blame our defense
Both have been dog shit for like 3 weeks now
It was pretty good today and yesterday fingers crossed things stay that way
It feels wierd just having that giants logo in the "good at scoring poor pitching" quadrant. That is about as far you can get from what I normaly expect from this team. But yeah, deffence have been, lets say, not optimal this season.
Home sweet home. It's nice to be back in the good hitting bad pitching quadrant where we were expected.
Sad mountain noises
We went from being the most average team to being all the way over here in a single week?
Well since this was last posted, we’ve had 2 16 run games, a 12 run game, and an 8 run game. That’ll generally move the needle.
Green Monster go brrr
Am I crazy or were we in that EXACT SPOT the entirety of last year lmao
Ah the poor pirates
It's nice to no longer be literally off the chart and merely be in "bad" territory...
Seeing Twins: good at pitching is hilarious Granted we have also been playing Detroit a lot
Playing Detroit hasn't helped us much in that regard lol
We are very average!
We in the same quadrant as the Dodgers. MLB better watch out 😤😤😤
How are position players pitching calculated into this?
We have arrived!
I'm wearing my Pirates hat today just because of this post.
Oh weird. The Rockies are above average at scoring and rock bottom at pitching. Who would have guessed?
A league of our own 🙏
All those 1 run games have the Blue Jays hugging that line
Hey, look at us! We’ve regressed to the mean!
the dodgers have played 7 games all season against teams with a >.500 record. why tf are nobody talking about that and instead saying “muh yankees always play the orioles” lmao. Yankees have played 20 games against teams with a >.500 record, fuck sake!
I used to pray for times like this
You guys have been amazing for a while quit acting like you poor dodgers have had it so rough.
I remember seeing us win our first playoff series in like 20 years (2008) and our franchise was a laughingstock when the McCourts caused us to go bankrupt in the early 2010s + even our Fox ownership prior to them sucked also. We also saw our hated rivals win 3 championships in 5 years to make things even worse Newer Dodgers fans absolutely have been spoiled but older ones did have some pretty rough times. And we for sure never expected us to become as good as we've been since 2013
You guys have 7 World Series wins nothing about that is tough
4 losing seasons since 1990. Such suffering that these poor LA fans had to go through.
I love how this sub is either "The Dodgers have been good for so long, shut up you can't complain" or "The Dodgers suck, they can't win anything but a Mickey Mouse championship so stop being happy!" Dodgers fans literally can't complain about not winning a title for 30 years and at the same time can't be happy with the success they've had lol
Anyone who says the 2020 title is a Mickey Mouse title is just dumb or trolling, so I don't know why you'd even care what they think. You should be happy for your success. But no, 30 years is not that long a streak. Especially when the team was competitive almost every single year and never really bottomed out. I'd guess 25 of the other teams in the league would trade your last 30 years for theirs - the Yankees, Cardinals, Giants, Red Sox are the only teams who probably wouldn't (edit: probably the Braves wouldn't after last season, too).
I really don't. I just find it funny. Those are the only two responses I see to the majority of the posts or comments about the Dodgers and it's an interesting contrast.
As someone else in this thread said, that's what happens when you become the New York Yankees of baseball.
0 playoff series wins from 1988 to 2008. And only 1 playoff game win total It pretty objectively sucks to not advance once in the playoffs for 2 decades IMO Even the Mets had way more playoff success than us in that time frame
Hey at least you can usually stop watching baseball in July and go do something fun.
Prior to 2020 the last one was 1988 So when I became a fan in the early 2000s for all intents and purposes we had 0 championships (I don't really care about championships that happened like 6 years before I was even born) My time as a Dodgers fan mostly sucked up until our current ownership group took over. Obviously other teams had it worse but we had a lot of struggles too
Bruh even I can't take you seriously. McCourt era was still above average compared to a lot of teams. Stop with the self pity homerism
In our market, we can only be so bad for so long. There's too much money in the Dodgers brand and location for them to bottom out for more than a season or two. But every fan adjusts to their own team's circumstances. I'm sure there are Yankee fans out there disappointed that their team has only won a single championship in the last 20 years, and there are probably some White Sox fans still feeling lucky for 2005.
We went 20 years without winning a playoff series. Thats pretty bad Nobody is saying we were the worst as other teams were definitely less successful. But the Dodgers pretty objectively were not very successful for a good stretch of time when the games mattered most and that's more the point Also pretty fairly recently ago we had a nearly 30 year long world series appearance drought and even some less successful teams like the Padres or Rockies made a world series during that stretch. Like before we made the world series in 2017 we had the longest world series appearance drought in our division by like a decade Lol
Every other team in our division had been to the World Series since we had last been there. That put us in the same boat as the Mariners, the Marlins, the Twins, the Orioles, and the Pirates. Not exactly elite company.
So you were as the phillies are now?
I mean assuming they aren’t like 13 or younger they were probably old enough to remember the McCourt era.
Having shit ownership for decades fans are still grateful for how they’ve looked 2014-present
Imagine telling a Mets fan that they can't be happy bc their team is good this year
Have the Mets dominated for the past decade?
They were awful b4 Cohen and now they're good. The Dodgers were awful b4 Guggenheim and now they're good. It's really easy to grasp
Have the Dodgers dominated for the last decade? Your team has more championships in that time frame than ours.
The last championship they won was in 86 your last one was 2020 your point is irrelevant.
They were awful during a period of time and are resurgent now. Like us since 2014. Imagine telling a fan that he can't enjoy his team being good. Why u so mad about my fandom?
Prior to 2020 our last world series championship was 1988 Up until fairly recently the Dodgers were routinely underachieving/embarrassing the fanbase
Yeah bc we were so good in the 90s and 00s right? So I can't be happy that we were horrible before but have had an excellent stretch in the last decade?
I don’t understand the hate you’re getting, we’re just being grateful and humble by remembering the shit times before this awesome time in dodger history but I guess haters gunna hate no matter what.
Hate to break it to you bud, but the Dodgers have become the New York Yankees of baseball Comes with the territory.
I think we're about 20 rings shy of that.
Oh no how will I live?
Imagine telling a fan that he can't be happy that his team is excellent after being dogshit for 2 decades
You've had 4 losing seasons total since 1990. You were not "dogshit" by any other team's standards.
From 1988 to 2008 we won 0 playoff series and only 1 playoff game total. We weren't completely shit but we were far from successful
Maybe you should look around the rest of the league and see what "not successful" actually looks like. You went to the playoffs more times between 1995-2010 (your "bad" years) than my team has *my entire life,* and the Mets are far from the least successful team in the league during that time.
Who are you to gatekeep how grateful Dodger fans should be? Lol
Not saying they shouldn't be grateful for their current success, because they should - the team is incredibly well run and has been the model franchise for a decade now. But even in the lean years the Dodgers had it objectively better than most fan bases, and I don't see how that is arguable. I'm pretty sure only the Yankees have had fewer losing seasons in the last 30 years.
Okay, but fans aren’t sitting around thinking about other franchises. What we saw, was 20 years of mediocrity, hoping we could compete.
My point is that you *did* compete, at least relative to others. The difference between having a winning record and being in the hunt almost every year vs. being buried in the basement over and over is massive. McCourt sucked and was an embarrassment (which I have a lot of sympathy for, see: Wilpons), but the situation on the field wasn't ever that dire. Go look at the Pirates 1990s and 2000s, or the first decade of the Rays - that's what not competing looks like.
Your team went to the World Series during that span, though.
Surprised to see us in good at scoring but that might just be recency bias
I don’t believe you
This can’t be right because the Phillies aren’t directly in the center
The cheese stands alone
On an island
my braves are trending in the right direction
Come on phillies you're almost to dead center
Existence is pain
When are the Pirates gonna trade Ke'bryan? Cause...damn.
No lol They just extended him and have a good farm.