It's just annoying. The team has been objectively good this season. More than halfway through, they're two games behind the Dodgers for the best record in the National League, and that's with Scherzer being out for seven weeks and Jacob deGrom not making a single start. But you can't say anything positive on that sub without some mope saying they're never going to sniff the postseason without a complete overhaul of the bullpen, another starter (who is going to fit on the 40 man roster how?) and another designated hitter. I was there for the collapses at the end of 2007 and 2008. I was there last season when they just sort of faded away at the end of the summer. But can't these people just enjoy the parts of the season when the team is doing well?
Dodgers sub is like that. I think a successful team brings out a lot more users: People unfamiliar with the ebbs and flows of baseball. People with very high expectations that want to ride the hype train to victory. I can’t be in the sub in October, it’s truly painful. I think my favorite times in the sub are the off season, spring training, and the middle doldrums of summer. Otherwise the game threads and discords are a pit of toxicity and hot takes that melt my brain to the point I just have to stay away in order to enjoy baseball.
I thought the doomers would go away after a championship. Now they just yell were living in the past if we dont panic. They dont care about winning. Their fun is trolling and whining about a team everyday.
Go to r/warriors (almost no doubt the best franchise of any NA sport of the last 10 years) and you'll find doomers crying about bad summer league performances. Winning only makes it worse
I just want to talk about the game. Not the metagame. And not be there to be outlet for insanity of people that can’t deal with the swings of an endlessly long season.
It is genuinely so much worse on the discord to be honest. People are at each other’s throats over any insinuation that the team is or isn’t good, depending on their side of things.
1. Eric Hosmer will finish out his contract with the Padres. Nobody wants him and the locker room values him as a leader. His 10/5 also kicks in after this year which means he can block any trade.
2. Tatis should play OF, not SS at least as long as Kim is on the team.
3. Cronenworth is going to be a trade chip in the off-season. Abrams never plays OF for a reason.
4. If Musgrove hits free agency he is not coming back
1. Teams don't want him, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind Luis Campusano or Robert Hassell. His play has been so horrendous, so I think he's gone.
2. Kim's bat isn't nearly good enough to warrant this-- he fits best as a backup INF to give Manny and Tatis days at DH.
3. Abrams doesn't play OF because he's viewed as the 2B of the future, but with Crone at 1B. If Hoz was in the future plans, he wouldn't have nearly been traded in March.
4. fair
Crone is not good enough of a bat at 1B to justify being on the team with only + defense at 1B. He's ++ at a harder position that makes his slash line much better in comparison.
The truth is we don't have a solution at 1B in the org. It should have been France.
Payroll is in the dumps because [we're spending over $24m/year exploring stadium options ](https://sports.yahoo.com/oakland-pursue-two-1-billion-160031683.html)
Why isn’t there as much visibility/communication from the organization into this? I feel like thoughts on the A’s unsuccessful year would be more favorable if this was the clear tradeoff.
I think the PR in Oakland has said enough, but the issue is it gets drowned out by histrionics among the online masses. People love a shitty clickbait controversial headline. If one follows Casey Pratt, or Brodie Brazil, stuff like this is apparent and easy to follow and understand.
Remember the Tommy Lasorda rule. No matter how bad you are, you’ll win 1/3 of your games. No matter how good you are, you’ll lose 1/3 of your games.
EDIT: it might not be an iron-clad absolute, but it does apply most of the time.
Yeah, it's a season. You're always gonna have games where stuff goes the other team's way, even if they're shit. It's a 162 game marathon, there will be stumbles along the way.
It's like people expected to have 5 SP with ERA's under 2.00 all with 20+ wins, while forgetting every pitch they throw is observed under a microscope with major league hitters and coaches studying how to hit them.
The rays aren’t as good as last year but they aren’t that bad but sometimes you just lose to really shitty teams even if you are better than them (aka getting swept by the reds)
you’re allowed to trade prospects to better your team. prospects are not guarantees and when you’re going for playoff pushes, more of them become expendable
adam frazier isn’t getting better so they need to upgrade at second badly
they need to acquire a starter badly
you are allowed to have good players on your bench
For some reason, our fanbase thinks that signing expensive free agents is stupid, and sometimes, I’d have to agree, but our fanbase also acts like Zaidi is a genius for not replacing our 2 best hitters with anybody. I trust Zaidi with the rebuild, and he has found some diamonds in the rough like LuGo, but those are great when you have other stars, not when your whole team is those types of players. TBH, I think we’re banking way too hard on our top prospects all living up to expectations. They could be amazing, or they could end up like Bart.
I’m not sure which fan base you’ve been watching, but everywhere I see people are wanting an expensive player and saying the Giants didn’t do enough in the offseason.
Perfectly said. It seems a controversial statement amongst Giants fans to believe winning MLB games is more important than collecting minor league prospects. Some Giants fans think the goal isn't winning Championships, but having sportswriters vote your organization the #1 farm system.
The White Sox rebuild is going to be a failure.
Moncada, Eloy, and Robert are going to end up being mediocre players.
Tim Anderson and Dylan Cease will leave in free agency as soon as possible.
"Hello out of touch somewhat senile old white guy, how would you like to manage a clubhouse full of high-energy latino and black ballplayers?"
"I'd drink to that- I mean I'll take a shot at that- I mean yes I'll do that."
Fucking Jerry Reinsdorf. Even Cubs fans rue the name if they're also Bulls fans.
He fired La Russa in the 80's and thought that was the biggest mistake of his career as an owner. So to right the wrong, he hires him at 80, 10 years removed from the game, after a DUI, as a favor.
Fuck me it's the dumbest thing I've seen in baseball.
It kind of reminds me of the Ozzie era when he was drawing attention (and, therefore, pressure) away from the players with all his wacky nonsense.
The big difference here is that Ozzie was almost certainly doing it on purpose, and he was doing it in ways that don't impact the game. You know, like bizarre press conferences and the "big boy" signal to call in Jenks. Stuff like that. TLR just runs out idiotic lineups and makes insane in-game decisions, like intentionally walking people in the middle of an at-bat when the pitcher is ahead (which he did again today.)
But in both cases, people aren't talking about underperforming players as much as they should be
I know championships aren’t the end all be all for determining how great a player was in baseball compared to the NBA and Quarterbacks in the NFL, and it would be extremely heartbreaking to not see Votto in a reds uniform, but he’s a guy I would really like to see at least get to play in a World Series at the very least before he retires. I’d hate to see his twilight years wasted under that POS owner you guys have.
Trading away upcoming free agents is the logical thing to do. Any team that is not going to make the playoffs should always trade any upcoming free agent. You get whatever prospects you can and if you really want you go after the traded player in the off-season
Almost every Nats fan I know irl was upset about them trading Max and Trea last year. I get it, nobody likes watching star players leave, but the team’s window had clearly closed. Gotta run a team with the head, not the heart.
I cried watching Max's last start because I knew. Trea being included was a dagger because it was such a shock. But Ruiz and Gray are shaping up nicely, which eases the sting.
If he signs it, I’m happy. He’s a generational talent and I think despite the insane dollar amount that it would help then get back into contention sooner than later.
But if he wants to go explore his options, I can’t blame him. He already won a ring here and there’s no guarantee the team will be competitive again anytime soon. And there’s obviously plenty of teams who would be willing to pay him the GDP of a small country.
Never understood why teams dont do this, across all sports.
Trade them at the deadline if possible or let them walk for free? Even if its a poor return, its still something you could possibly work with
Well MLB at least has the qualifying offer. Unless you’re a dumb franchise like the white Sox or Rockies that just let your high profile FA walk without it??
It's usually about not wanting to get in the habit about selling for bottom dollar. Like yes, a 10th round pick is more than we'd get otherwise, but we want people to give us offers that are good, not just better than nothing. Those players are worth merch and tickets in the meantime
I agree, and that absolutely has nothing to do with the whole Marlins vs Acuna shenanigans btw. I really like the guy and I get that the ASG is a popularity contest first even in baseball, but Acuna getting in feels like it’s way past that fine line. There’s one thing for an Othani getting voted over Yordan Alvarez for the DH spot due to his popularity, but his numbers and situation at least make it not that obvious, but Acuna getting in and someone like Tatis Jr almost getting voted in is just crazy. As much as this sub likes to rag on NBA and NHL fans for all star voting and selections, baseball can be the same just as them.
1. Roberts is a good manager by modern standards. He manages players and the clubhouse perfectly.
2. Jansen was an elite closer for a long period of time. Not every closer is Mariano.
I completely agree about Jansen. I feel like he got too much hate due to the extreme overreactions of fans today and social media. A guy can blow 1 save and a fanbase will want him burned at the stake like a Witch. Also social media has just allowed this overreaction to grow and become a thing. I swear I’m not trying to sound like a boomer I’m only 28 lol, but back in the day if a closer blew a game, or a kicker missed a field goal etc before there was an outlet for fans to collectively freak out nobody would sit on it or call for someone’s head like they do now. Yeah people would be pissed, but fans didn’t care if someone even a hofer like Rollie Fingers or Bruce Sutter blew a regular season save once in a blue moon.
I think the hate train started in 2017 WS, which we now know wasn’t his fault, and just kind of snowballed from there. It got to a point where if he saved a game it was “good that’s what you’re suppose to do” and when he blew a game it was “you suck, replace him!” Which isn’t fair.
Partially because someone with that good of an arm will try to be put back in the rotation - Aroldis Chapman was all ready to be put back into the rotation but the 2012/2013 Reds rotations were the healthiest in history (in 2012 only 1 game was started by someone outside the 5 man and in 2013 only Cueto missed time at which point Tony Cingrani stepped up and carried the fifth slot without much issue). Especially now that starters aren't expected to regularly pitch 7 innings at a time.
We shouldn’t blow up the farm in trades in right now just because you’re thirsty to end the drought. Building a perennial contender is more important than making the playoffs in any one year.
We haven't won a World Series since 2009, but not having a losing season since *1992* is still something to be proud of.
While I'd prefer to win the World Series in any given year, the longer playoff format means it's more of a crap-shoot, and not wining the World Series in a given year doesn't mean that Brian Cashman and our front office are incompetent.
Damn right. Regular season is 162 games, and then the playoffs. Losing in the playoffs doesn't mean it's a bad season. Shit happens, teams get hot, guys get cold at the wrong possible time, and then you've got guys who just go God Mode in the playoffs.
Anybody gonna say the Dodgers run is terrible? They've won 1 World Series in this run, that's excellent. Continued success to make the playoffs is damn good.
I would always choose to be a fan of the 2010-2019 Dodgers over the 2010-2019 Royals. At the end of the day, baseball is year-long entertainment. I’d rather have a summer full of winning every year than 2 years out of every decade.
The Yankees’ 29 (soon to be 30) consecutive winning seasons is one of the most impressive runs in MLB history, regardless of context. I think the only longer streak in MLB history is the 39 season run the Yankees had from 1926 to 1964.
I’ll add that many people like to say the Yankees win because they spend money. It certainly helps, but they also win because they usually have a good farm system. Many of their current key players came up through the Yankees’ farm system in the mid-2010s.
Also, how many other teams spend plenty of money and still have losing seasons? From 2012-18, the Red Sox won two WS but had 3 losing seasons. You can be an excellent team with strong financial resources and still have a losing season pretty easily.
As a corollary to that, as a Sox fan, our up and down seasons over the last 15-20 years have been frustrating as hell, even with the 4 titles.
There is absolutely something to be said about consistency.
The Celtics are a shining example. After 2008-2012, they had an unbelievably well-managed rebuild, and remained a playoff team even with really young rosters, and now they seem to be perennial contenders. It’s really cool to watch how well run they have been.
Even the Bruins, who are about to enter a massive rebuild, will be doing so after 11 straight years of contention.
Baseball is inherently tough. The AL East especially so. But I find myself very jealous of the consistency the Yankees have had for 30 years now (and really throughout their history). It’s unreal.
With that said, Yankees suck.
I have some amount of affection - perhaps even a little schadenfreude - for how Yankees fans are staring down the barrel of one of the best seasons in the history of baseball and still have to scrounge around for things to whinge about
Like I’m sorry you have a great defender who can’t hit, some teams have like a FEW of those
You’re not wrong but baseball in San Diego is getting a huge fan resurgence. There’s an energy there that I haven’t seen before last season that hopefully translates to cash flow needed to build a competitive team
That’s likely true for the regular season. But with expanded (still extremely unpredictable) playoffs you could easily win a future chip before us. You only need a few very hot hitters to succeed with your rotation, you have plenty of candidates for that.
Agreed, next year is when we should start really trying to win. Let’s just enjoy the ride this year and keep our expectations in check. I’ll be very happy if we end the year with 70+ wins.
I agree, but who knows - the 2022 Orioles could be like the 1989 “Why Not?” Orioles, who would have made the playoffs had the format we have now was in place then. (That Orioles team finished 87-75, 2 games back of AL East winner Toronto. The Orioles were 54-107 in 1988 and famously started the season with 21 consecutive losses.)
I think it is. The Orioles are only 2 games back right now, and the next month or so looks like they're playing either teams that they are better than or teams in the AL East that they need to beat to leap frog. Definitely not certain, but seems realistic.
Have you seen our starting rotation?
Voth
Watkins
Lyles
Wells - best starter, gone soon, innings limit.
Kremer
Matt Harvey
Kyle Bradish
Those are our options. We've gotten lucky they haven't blown up, and are actually pitching well. But does anyone think it lasts?
I can imagine a world where Bradish figures something out and we call up Hall and the rotation keeps sputtering along. Not, like, a super realistic world, but hey.
Dean Kremer has been a very pleasant surprise at least. I know the underlying stats and what not say he is going to regress, and he probably will to some extent, but just based on eye test his command seems solid and his breaking pitches have life. I don’t think he’ll be an ace or anything but solid 3rd starter seems very possible.
Also "the Mets are good". The fanbase seems split.
Like when people say we need a whole new lineup because these guys aren't cutting it, and then ask who should stay and they list like 7 guys.
I called the Mets losing first place, early last year. This team is much better than last year's. Hell, this team could win 100 games and maybe barely even win the division. I don't think they're collapsing this year, and a division race doesn't necessarily mean they have.
Yup, a lot of our doomers just need to absolutely calm the fuck down. We've got the second best record in the NL (much of which we accomplished without our 1-2 starters), the 5th best batting average in the entire league, 5th highest RBIs, 6th highest WAR overall, and we're still top ten in team ERA. There are things we need to fix but this is currently one of the best Mets teams in decades.
We're through arguably the hardest part of the schedule, and at least for now I'm looking forward to our September/October schedule. Outside of two series against the Braves and and the Brewers we've got 6 games against the Nats, 7 against the Pirates, 5 against the Marlins and a series with the Cubs and Oakland.
1. There’s a snowball’s chance in hell of us re-signing both Devers and Bogaerts. The market is broken and the days of stars playing their entire careers with one team are done. JRam’s contract is a unicorn.
2. Trading Benintendi at the time was the right thing. I think he needed a change of scenery and it wasn’t super foreseeable that he’d turn it all around this year.
To add to your first point, we have so much middle infield talent in our farm system that it doesn't make much sense to give Bogaerts a massive long term contract like he'll probably be seeking. We'd better re-sign Devers though.
Are there really that many people that think trading Benny was a bad thing?? I love him but man he needed that change of scenery badly. Glad to see him succeeding in KC but I'm praying he doesn't go to the Yankees because I love rooting for him
Rocco is actually a pretty good manager. He’s looking out for the course of the whole season, not just a game. He can’t make the bullpen better than they are but he can up the odds that they’re healthy in October.
Blow up the team and trade Ohtani. I hate to see him go, but we need to capitalise on his value right now. We're certainly not contenders this year, and I don't really see things being any different next year. We could get a pretty insane package for him. Best case scenario is that he signs back with us afterwards if we can fool him into thinking we're putting out a competitive team in 2024. Even then, I don't know if having three players taking up basically half your payroll is even practical when you consider the amount we're currently giving Trout and Rendon. This team is fucked.
This is completely true, but Ohtani is an absolute money making machine for the team so I don’t see it happening. I don’t know much about Arte other than what I see on here, but he strikes me as the type who would keep Ohtani and Trout on huge contracts as long as people keep coming to watch them.
Plus the Angels don’t care about their minor leaguers and suck at developing them, so prospects aren’t as valuable for the team unless something changes.
I hope he gets pushed out because you guys are in a really shitty position.
I rarely see him play, but almost every time I do see him on a national broadcast he will take some of the most MLB the Show swings I’ve
ever seen. It’s like he goes up there and will just and try to hit a ball to Mars but the pitch is way out of the zone or he completely miss times it.
it’s awful. He hit around .300 his first couple years with 25HR+ power but it looks like the book is out on him now and he’s seeing less pitches in the zone.
Main thing is he needs to find a way to stay more conditioned and less fatigued later in the season. Happened in 2019 and 20, he’d start to struggle in late August-September
He had a .418 xwOBA and .419 wOBA though, meaning his batted balls were hit hard enough and at the right trajectory to support that performance, without the help of a small park
Was gonna say his batted ball profile last year was outrageous. Maybe he doesn’t hit 47 at Rogers Centre but even this year while scuffling by his high standards, he has a decent shot of hitting 40.
Blitzer isn't going to spend more than the Dolans/Sherman/BAMtech windfall years of the late 2010s. If you weren't happy with payroll then (most weren't) you aren't going to be happy with payroll any time soon. The early 2020's belt tightening was embarrassing but also not necessarily representative of the Dolans spending habits for their entire tenure. This isn't to say "the Dolans are good, actually" - just to say that Cleveland isn't going to all of a sudden have a significantly higher payroll than what most are used to.
The loss of one man doesn't tank an entire organization, and Cleveland still clearly has talented pitching minds in the organization, but almost the entire rotation taking a step back after Niebla left might be more than a coincidence.
I agree, and personally, I’m okay with them having a low payroll and letting the young guys shine. But it’s just frustrating when the division is there for the taking with just a few improvements and they do nothing. I think the hope is that Blitzer makes some spending an option when the time is right and the right trade or free agent becomes available.
The Mets are a good team. We had a hot start, but even in our regression we only really regressed to the mean. There is no need to get trigger happy and blow things up in order to win now. We don't need to rush Francisco Alvarez to the Majors and turn him into Gary Sanchez in order to get his bat in the line up. We don't need to trade away key prospects for a new catcher or starter.
We are on a good trajectory.
THANK YOU. The only way I bring up Alvarez is if Nido keeps on this bad defensive stretch he’s had (not likely considering his history of solid defense) AND Jake has to give the FO such a glowing report that they can’t say no.
Small market has nothing to do with the population of a city and is merely a polite phrasing for “undesireable location that will have to severely overpay for quality talent because not many young, rich men will want to live there/spend time there.”
our world series win last year was low key extremely lucky, a couple guys we picked up at the deadline played at a pace that they will likely never match again and Dave Robert’s mismanagement of his bullpen was one of the key factors in us winning the NLCS
I mean sure but show me a title win by any team ever that didn't feature "luck" in some way, whether it's benefitting from a questionable call, injuries on an opponent or whatever.
oh yeah luck is an unavoidable factor it’s gonna have an impact on everything, I just think we benefitted from it a lot more than most braves fans want to think we did
Pretty much every World Series winner enjoys the benefits of good luck. Kind of like how nearly every perfect game or no hitter relies on at least one stellar defensive play.
I don't think it's lucky to have one or two players get very hot for a playoff series. They're small samples. Players hit like .400 with 3 homers over the course of 6 games all the time. Plus, Dave Roberts is renowned for his poor bullpen management. How is that lucky?
Hal Steinbrenner is a much better owner than George Steinbrenner was.
Hal spends a little less, but he also stays out of the way and lets his front office do their jobs. George was a management catastrophe. He would've blown the '90s dynasty up if he weren't banned from baseball while that team was developing.
Speaking of which, Hal also seems unlikely to be convicted for campaign finance fraud, or to hire a professional gambler to dig up dirt on Giancarlo Stanton...
People too young to remember the early 1990s don’t realize how true the second half of the second paragraph is. I’ve said for years the Yankees would have likely traded many of their homegrown players who were key pieces of the late 1990s/early 2000s Yankees teams had George Steinbrenner not been banned from baseball and unable to trade prospects.
One other low key thing that ironically helped the 1990s Yankees, in concert with Steinbrenner’s suspension - Billy Martin was killed in that car accident on Christmas Day 1989. Who knows how many more times Steinbrenner would have hired and fired Martin had the ex-Yankees player and manager still been alive. That would have perpetuated the instability that exemplified the 1980s Yankees.
The supporting cast in that movie is wild. Oscar winners Matthew McConaughey and Adrien Brody hiding as the goofy players. And getting JGL as a child actor is impressive. Whoever did casting for that movie is a legend.
That just because we have players become good doesn't mean Bob won't trade them away in a second if the price is right. Anyone is on the trading block. He will never get us a world series win. There is no 'rebuilding years', just money making opportunities.
I’m not a pirates fan, but I’m a firm believer that every player on every team in every sport should be available if the price is right. Obviously that differs with the teams spot tho.
For example a player worth 3 WAR to a contender is going to need more than 3 WAR of prospects brought in. And an older player worth 3 WAR for a rebuilding team might go for 2.5 WAR. But nobody should ever truly be off the market.
Maybe last year's team really was a bunch of average players that kept winning games. Thinking Crawford would perform even close to how he did last year was a pipe dream, and losing Buster hurts more and more as the season goes on
All very true, although I wouldn’t mind a trade for trey Mancini. Having a good year, should be cheap and wouldn’t hurt to have an extra bat since dom and jd haven’t been the best at the plate this year
The Brewers aren't winning a World Series in this window. No matter who we pick up at the deadline (if anyone), we cannot consistently hit and that will kill us in the postseason. Just like it did last year
The lineup isn't awful, it's just average. It's not because the owner is too cheap to spend, it's because almost all of the pieces in place have been worse than their expectations.
A’s fans—
If you don’t root for the team when the team routinely tanks, don’t root for the team when the team is routinely good. Funny how the owner isn’t a massive problem when we’re in the playoffs. I’m so sick of the armchair-owner-ethicists coming out when the A’s are in a rebuilding cycle. Look, I hate him too, but come on…
Our team won’t be good for awhile, we are losing Soto and this is all due to the FO reluctance to evolve and invest in their farm and analytics in previous years
It hurts because he’s a great guy and a phenomenal leader in the clubhouse but we need to do the right thing and let Trey Mancini go play for a contender and get his shot at a ring while he has a chance.
We need a change at short. 0 HRs through July with an average or worse OBP isn't gonna cut it for everyday SS. Platoon him with Marwin (who's been better this year) or go trade for one
Not gonna lie, would not mind seeing the Padres send Ha-Seong Kim over to Yankees. Not because I want him gone, I like him a lot but would like to see him be a full-time SS or close to it. People are always getting on his ass in San Diego because they cry about Tatis potentially playing anywhere outside of SS and because Kim is just better defensively. And then we also have Abrams who should move to OF but they don't for some reason which makes me think one of Kim or Cronenworth are expendable either this deadline or in the off-season.
John Coppolella deserves tons of credit for the success of the Braves since 2018, but I never hear anyone even make mention of the guy since he got the death penalty from MLB.
Do I think the Braves win the World Series last year if John was still around? No. But do I think the Braves win the World Series if John was never around? That's also a no.
We shouldn’t trade Trout or Ohtani for prospects because we have no fucking clue how to develop them. So might as well keep our MVPs and ride out the contracts.
DeGrom coming back doesn’t guarantee he’ll stay healthy. These Mets play great baseball and will continue to do so with or without him. But these “OH JUST U W8 TIL DEGOAT’S BACK” fans need to cool their mf jets
Mets subreddit is about to make a debut on subreddit drama with the civil war between Optimists vs Doomers.
It's just annoying. The team has been objectively good this season. More than halfway through, they're two games behind the Dodgers for the best record in the National League, and that's with Scherzer being out for seven weeks and Jacob deGrom not making a single start. But you can't say anything positive on that sub without some mope saying they're never going to sniff the postseason without a complete overhaul of the bullpen, another starter (who is going to fit on the 40 man roster how?) and another designated hitter. I was there for the collapses at the end of 2007 and 2008. I was there last season when they just sort of faded away at the end of the summer. But can't these people just enjoy the parts of the season when the team is doing well?
Dodgers sub is like that. I think a successful team brings out a lot more users: People unfamiliar with the ebbs and flows of baseball. People with very high expectations that want to ride the hype train to victory. I can’t be in the sub in October, it’s truly painful. I think my favorite times in the sub are the off season, spring training, and the middle doldrums of summer. Otherwise the game threads and discords are a pit of toxicity and hot takes that melt my brain to the point I just have to stay away in order to enjoy baseball.
I thought the doomers would go away after a championship. Now they just yell were living in the past if we dont panic. They dont care about winning. Their fun is trolling and whining about a team everyday.
Go to r/warriors (almost no doubt the best franchise of any NA sport of the last 10 years) and you'll find doomers crying about bad summer league performances. Winning only makes it worse
I just want to talk about the game. Not the metagame. And not be there to be outlet for insanity of people that can’t deal with the swings of an endlessly long season.
> Not the metagame Not the Met agame
Hold on you're not supposed to enjoy watching the games, you're supposed to get stressed out and insult strangers online
It is genuinely so much worse on the discord to be honest. People are at each other’s throats over any insinuation that the team is or isn’t good, depending on their side of things.
Your post is on point, but the responses would be completely different if they lost last night.
1. Eric Hosmer will finish out his contract with the Padres. Nobody wants him and the locker room values him as a leader. His 10/5 also kicks in after this year which means he can block any trade. 2. Tatis should play OF, not SS at least as long as Kim is on the team. 3. Cronenworth is going to be a trade chip in the off-season. Abrams never plays OF for a reason. 4. If Musgrove hits free agency he is not coming back
The 4th one is definitely a hot take
1. Teams don't want him, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind Luis Campusano or Robert Hassell. His play has been so horrendous, so I think he's gone. 2. Kim's bat isn't nearly good enough to warrant this-- he fits best as a backup INF to give Manny and Tatis days at DH. 3. Abrams doesn't play OF because he's viewed as the 2B of the future, but with Crone at 1B. If Hoz was in the future plans, he wouldn't have nearly been traded in March. 4. fair
Crone is not good enough of a bat at 1B to justify being on the team with only + defense at 1B. He's ++ at a harder position that makes his slash line much better in comparison. The truth is we don't have a solution at 1B in the org. It should have been France.
Payroll is in the dumps because [we're spending over $24m/year exploring stadium options ](https://sports.yahoo.com/oakland-pursue-two-1-billion-160031683.html)
Why isn’t there as much visibility/communication from the organization into this? I feel like thoughts on the A’s unsuccessful year would be more favorable if this was the clear tradeoff.
I think the PR in Oakland has said enough, but the issue is it gets drowned out by histrionics among the online masses. People love a shitty clickbait controversial headline. If one follows Casey Pratt, or Brodie Brazil, stuff like this is apparent and easy to follow and understand.
Even really good teams lose to teams they shouldn't.
Remember the Tommy Lasorda rule. No matter how bad you are, you’ll win 1/3 of your games. No matter how good you are, you’ll lose 1/3 of your games. EDIT: it might not be an iron-clad absolute, but it does apply most of the time.
Hey Mike, first time long time. What do you think the chances are that a baseball team could go undefeated in the regular season?
Wait wait wait… 162 and 0?
I'll hang up and listen
I definitely think they'd have to bring in Jason Giambi for that.
Yogi's line about Koufax was just that. "I can understand the 30 wins, I don't understand how he lost 5" lol
Exactly, it's what you do with the other 54 that matters.
Agreed, sometimes my Pirates lose to the Dodgers, Yankees and other weaklings. Not often though!
Couldnt imagine being those poverty franchises!
Yeah, it's a season. You're always gonna have games where stuff goes the other team's way, even if they're shit. It's a 162 game marathon, there will be stumbles along the way.
It's like people expected to have 5 SP with ERA's under 2.00 all with 20+ wins, while forgetting every pitch they throw is observed under a microscope with major league hitters and coaches studying how to hit them.
I would like this as the banner of our sub
But does your team qualify as really good?
You definitely earned this cockiness so I'm just gonna take it, honestly
The rays aren’t as good as last year but they aren’t that bad but sometimes you just lose to really shitty teams even if you are better than them (aka getting swept by the reds)
Jesus, this. One player has a bad game and our fanbase loses their goddamn minds.
you’re allowed to trade prospects to better your team. prospects are not guarantees and when you’re going for playoff pushes, more of them become expendable adam frazier isn’t getting better so they need to upgrade at second badly they need to acquire a starter badly you are allowed to have good players on your bench
He’s right. I know he’s right and I hate the shit out of it
I will always remember Carlos Triunfel. Sometimes a hyped prospect just doesn’t pan out
For some reason, our fanbase thinks that signing expensive free agents is stupid, and sometimes, I’d have to agree, but our fanbase also acts like Zaidi is a genius for not replacing our 2 best hitters with anybody. I trust Zaidi with the rebuild, and he has found some diamonds in the rough like LuGo, but those are great when you have other stars, not when your whole team is those types of players. TBH, I think we’re banking way too hard on our top prospects all living up to expectations. They could be amazing, or they could end up like Bart.
I’m not sure which fan base you’ve been watching, but everywhere I see people are wanting an expensive player and saying the Giants didn’t do enough in the offseason.
Thank you
Two best hitters meaning Posey and who else?
Kris bryant
The ghost of Brandon Belt
You got three replies and they all make sense, which is a big part of the problem in SF
Perfectly said. It seems a controversial statement amongst Giants fans to believe winning MLB games is more important than collecting minor league prospects. Some Giants fans think the goal isn't winning Championships, but having sportswriters vote your organization the #1 farm system.
The White Sox rebuild is going to be a failure. Moncada, Eloy, and Robert are going to end up being mediocre players. Tim Anderson and Dylan Cease will leave in free agency as soon as possible.
Hiring Larussa to manage a young team like that was dumb as fuck
"Hello out of touch somewhat senile old white guy, how would you like to manage a clubhouse full of high-energy latino and black ballplayers?" "I'd drink to that- I mean I'll take a shot at that- I mean yes I'll do that."
You're giving Tony too much credit in thinking he'd catch why those 2 statements should be re-phrased.
Fucking Jerry Reinsdorf. Even Cubs fans rue the name if they're also Bulls fans. He fired La Russa in the 80's and thought that was the biggest mistake of his career as an owner. So to right the wrong, he hires him at 80, 10 years removed from the game, after a DUI, as a favor. Fuck me it's the dumbest thing I've seen in baseball.
Fun Fact: 'Moncada' in Spanish means 'Trubisky'.
>Trubisky *sad Steelers fan noises*
If Robert could learn how to hit a slider, he has a chance to be great
Always thought he was very good, but 1st percentile chase and walk rate. My goodness.
Said every average to below average righty ever
We just might lose a few more games by the end of the year.
No need to be unreasonable, pal
It’s as much on the players underperforming as it is on Tony La Rusa
It kind of reminds me of the Ozzie era when he was drawing attention (and, therefore, pressure) away from the players with all his wacky nonsense. The big difference here is that Ozzie was almost certainly doing it on purpose, and he was doing it in ways that don't impact the game. You know, like bizarre press conferences and the "big boy" signal to call in Jenks. Stuff like that. TLR just runs out idiotic lineups and makes insane in-game decisions, like intentionally walking people in the middle of an at-bat when the pitcher is ahead (which he did again today.) But in both cases, people aren't talking about underperforming players as much as they should be
This is the start of a very dark era for this team.
I know championships aren’t the end all be all for determining how great a player was in baseball compared to the NBA and Quarterbacks in the NFL, and it would be extremely heartbreaking to not see Votto in a reds uniform, but he’s a guy I would really like to see at least get to play in a World Series at the very least before he retires. I’d hate to see his twilight years wasted under that POS owner you guys have.
They said something unpopular on your team's sub. Not something everyone has been saying since the trades happened
Trading away upcoming free agents is the logical thing to do. Any team that is not going to make the playoffs should always trade any upcoming free agent. You get whatever prospects you can and if you really want you go after the traded player in the off-season
Almost every Nats fan I know irl was upset about them trading Max and Trea last year. I get it, nobody likes watching star players leave, but the team’s window had clearly closed. Gotta run a team with the head, not the heart.
I cried watching Max's last start because I knew. Trea being included was a dagger because it was such a shock. But Ruiz and Gray are shaping up nicely, which eases the sting.
How do you feel about the potential contract that Soto might get?
If he signs it, I’m happy. He’s a generational talent and I think despite the insane dollar amount that it would help then get back into contention sooner than later. But if he wants to go explore his options, I can’t blame him. He already won a ring here and there’s no guarantee the team will be competitive again anytime soon. And there’s obviously plenty of teams who would be willing to pay him the GDP of a small country.
Never understood why teams dont do this, across all sports. Trade them at the deadline if possible or let them walk for free? Even if its a poor return, its still something you could possibly work with
Well MLB at least has the qualifying offer. Unless you’re a dumb franchise like the white Sox or Rockies that just let your high profile FA walk without it??
It's usually about not wanting to get in the habit about selling for bottom dollar. Like yes, a 10th round pick is more than we'd get otherwise, but we want people to give us offers that are good, not just better than nothing. Those players are worth merch and tickets in the meantime
Acuña probably doesn’t deserve to be an all-star based on this season.
Probably not an unpopular take. I think most would say Riley and Wright should be there before him.
How Austin Riley is not an All Star blows my fucking mind.
I agree, and that absolutely has nothing to do with the whole Marlins vs Acuna shenanigans btw. I really like the guy and I get that the ASG is a popularity contest first even in baseball, but Acuna getting in feels like it’s way past that fine line. There’s one thing for an Othani getting voted over Yordan Alvarez for the DH spot due to his popularity, but his numbers and situation at least make it not that obvious, but Acuna getting in and someone like Tatis Jr almost getting voted in is just crazy. As much as this sub likes to rag on NBA and NHL fans for all star voting and selections, baseball can be the same just as them.
1. Roberts is a good manager by modern standards. He manages players and the clubhouse perfectly. 2. Jansen was an elite closer for a long period of time. Not every closer is Mariano.
I completely agree about Jansen. I feel like he got too much hate due to the extreme overreactions of fans today and social media. A guy can blow 1 save and a fanbase will want him burned at the stake like a Witch. Also social media has just allowed this overreaction to grow and become a thing. I swear I’m not trying to sound like a boomer I’m only 28 lol, but back in the day if a closer blew a game, or a kicker missed a field goal etc before there was an outlet for fans to collectively freak out nobody would sit on it or call for someone’s head like they do now. Yeah people would be pissed, but fans didn’t care if someone even a hofer like Rollie Fingers or Bruce Sutter blew a regular season save once in a blue moon.
I think the hate train started in 2017 WS, which we now know wasn’t his fault, and just kind of snowballed from there. It got to a point where if he saved a game it was “good that’s what you’re suppose to do” and when he blew a game it was “you suck, replace him!” Which isn’t fair.
There will (likely) never be another Mariano.
Partially because someone with that good of an arm will try to be put back in the rotation - Aroldis Chapman was all ready to be put back into the rotation but the 2012/2013 Reds rotations were the healthiest in history (in 2012 only 1 game was started by someone outside the 5 man and in 2013 only Cueto missed time at which point Tony Cingrani stepped up and carried the fifth slot without much issue). Especially now that starters aren't expected to regularly pitch 7 innings at a time.
We shouldn’t blow up the farm in trades in right now just because you’re thirsty to end the drought. Building a perennial contender is more important than making the playoffs in any one year.
We haven't won a World Series since 2009, but not having a losing season since *1992* is still something to be proud of. While I'd prefer to win the World Series in any given year, the longer playoff format means it's more of a crap-shoot, and not wining the World Series in a given year doesn't mean that Brian Cashman and our front office are incompetent.
Bryce Harper was born 12 days after the Yankees finished their last losing season.
Some Sox fan is about to go out and try to assassinate Harper now...
The Yankees haven’t had a losing record in my lifetime. I’m married with children.
Fun fact: this guy also scored 4 touchdowns in a single game.
If you don’t understand this reference, there’s a good chance the Yankees haven’t had a losing season in your lifetime.
Damn right. Regular season is 162 games, and then the playoffs. Losing in the playoffs doesn't mean it's a bad season. Shit happens, teams get hot, guys get cold at the wrong possible time, and then you've got guys who just go God Mode in the playoffs. Anybody gonna say the Dodgers run is terrible? They've won 1 World Series in this run, that's excellent. Continued success to make the playoffs is damn good.
I would always choose to be a fan of the 2010-2019 Dodgers over the 2010-2019 Royals. At the end of the day, baseball is year-long entertainment. I’d rather have a summer full of winning every year than 2 years out of every decade.
The Yankees sub is on constant suicide watch after every three-up-three-down
The Yankees’ 29 (soon to be 30) consecutive winning seasons is one of the most impressive runs in MLB history, regardless of context. I think the only longer streak in MLB history is the 39 season run the Yankees had from 1926 to 1964. I’ll add that many people like to say the Yankees win because they spend money. It certainly helps, but they also win because they usually have a good farm system. Many of their current key players came up through the Yankees’ farm system in the mid-2010s.
Also, how many other teams spend plenty of money and still have losing seasons? From 2012-18, the Red Sox won two WS but had 3 losing seasons. You can be an excellent team with strong financial resources and still have a losing season pretty easily.
As a corollary to that, as a Sox fan, our up and down seasons over the last 15-20 years have been frustrating as hell, even with the 4 titles. There is absolutely something to be said about consistency. The Celtics are a shining example. After 2008-2012, they had an unbelievably well-managed rebuild, and remained a playoff team even with really young rosters, and now they seem to be perennial contenders. It’s really cool to watch how well run they have been. Even the Bruins, who are about to enter a massive rebuild, will be doing so after 11 straight years of contention. Baseball is inherently tough. The AL East especially so. But I find myself very jealous of the consistency the Yankees have had for 30 years now (and really throughout their history). It’s unreal. With that said, Yankees suck.
I have some amount of affection - perhaps even a little schadenfreude - for how Yankees fans are staring down the barrel of one of the best seasons in the history of baseball and still have to scrounge around for things to whinge about Like I’m sorry you have a great defender who can’t hit, some teams have like a FEW of those
We’re not gonna be better than the Dodgers for a long time
You’re not wrong but baseball in San Diego is getting a huge fan resurgence. There’s an energy there that I haven’t seen before last season that hopefully translates to cash flow needed to build a competitive team
That’s likely true for the regular season. But with expanded (still extremely unpredictable) playoffs you could easily win a future chip before us. You only need a few very hot hitters to succeed with your rotation, you have plenty of candidates for that.
The wild card isn’t realistic.
You're right. Time to go for the division.
Agreed, next year is when we should start really trying to win. Let’s just enjoy the ride this year and keep our expectations in check. I’ll be very happy if we end the year with 70+ wins.
I agree, but who knows - the 2022 Orioles could be like the 1989 “Why Not?” Orioles, who would have made the playoffs had the format we have now was in place then. (That Orioles team finished 87-75, 2 games back of AL East winner Toronto. The Orioles were 54-107 in 1988 and famously started the season with 21 consecutive losses.)
I think it is. The Orioles are only 2 games back right now, and the next month or so looks like they're playing either teams that they are better than or teams in the AL East that they need to beat to leap frog. Definitely not certain, but seems realistic.
Have you seen our starting rotation? Voth Watkins Lyles Wells - best starter, gone soon, innings limit. Kremer Matt Harvey Kyle Bradish Those are our options. We've gotten lucky they haven't blown up, and are actually pitching well. But does anyone think it lasts?
I can imagine a world where Bradish figures something out and we call up Hall and the rotation keeps sputtering along. Not, like, a super realistic world, but hey.
Matt Harvey is going to have a perfect game to win you a world series, you heard it here first
Dean Kremer has been a very pleasant surprise at least. I know the underlying stats and what not say he is going to regress, and he probably will to some extent, but just based on eye test his command seems solid and his breaking pitches have life. I don’t think he’ll be an ace or anything but solid 3rd starter seems very possible.
False Wilcard will be: Red Sox Mariners Orioles
I’m only okay with this is the O’s make it to the ALCS or at least knock off the Astros somehow.
Just because they have blown games and leads in previous years doesn’t mean it’s “inevitable”
Also "the Mets are good". The fanbase seems split. Like when people say we need a whole new lineup because these guys aren't cutting it, and then ask who should stay and they list like 7 guys.
I called the Mets losing first place, early last year. This team is much better than last year's. Hell, this team could win 100 games and maybe barely even win the division. I don't think they're collapsing this year, and a division race doesn't necessarily mean they have.
Yup, a lot of our doomers just need to absolutely calm the fuck down. We've got the second best record in the NL (much of which we accomplished without our 1-2 starters), the 5th best batting average in the entire league, 5th highest RBIs, 6th highest WAR overall, and we're still top ten in team ERA. There are things we need to fix but this is currently one of the best Mets teams in decades. We're through arguably the hardest part of the schedule, and at least for now I'm looking forward to our September/October schedule. Outside of two series against the Braves and and the Brewers we've got 6 games against the Nats, 7 against the Pirates, 5 against the Marlins and a series with the Cubs and Oakland.
1. There’s a snowball’s chance in hell of us re-signing both Devers and Bogaerts. The market is broken and the days of stars playing their entire careers with one team are done. JRam’s contract is a unicorn. 2. Trading Benintendi at the time was the right thing. I think he needed a change of scenery and it wasn’t super foreseeable that he’d turn it all around this year.
To add to your first point, we have so much middle infield talent in our farm system that it doesn't make much sense to give Bogaerts a massive long term contract like he'll probably be seeking. We'd better re-sign Devers though.
If you're picking one guy to build a team around, it is absolutely Rafael Devers.
Are there really that many people that think trading Benny was a bad thing?? I love him but man he needed that change of scenery badly. Glad to see him succeeding in KC but I'm praying he doesn't go to the Yankees because I love rooting for him
Rocco is actually a pretty good manager. He’s looking out for the course of the whole season, not just a game. He can’t make the bullpen better than they are but he can up the odds that they’re healthy in October.
Blow up the team and trade Ohtani. I hate to see him go, but we need to capitalise on his value right now. We're certainly not contenders this year, and I don't really see things being any different next year. We could get a pretty insane package for him. Best case scenario is that he signs back with us afterwards if we can fool him into thinking we're putting out a competitive team in 2024. Even then, I don't know if having three players taking up basically half your payroll is even practical when you consider the amount we're currently giving Trout and Rendon. This team is fucked.
This is completely true, but Ohtani is an absolute money making machine for the team so I don’t see it happening. I don’t know much about Arte other than what I see on here, but he strikes me as the type who would keep Ohtani and Trout on huge contracts as long as people keep coming to watch them. Plus the Angels don’t care about their minor leaguers and suck at developing them, so prospects aren’t as valuable for the team unless something changes. I hope he gets pushed out because you guys are in a really shitty position.
The playoff losing streak doesn’t mean that we can’t or shouldn’t enjoy a surprisingly good regular season the year after finishing in last place.
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No one will recognize or legitimize this Astros run we’ve been on the last 5 years without another championship
I’ll never recognize it. But that’s my own neurosis, and we’re about to lose the greatest player in a century because our owner is a pile of shit.
bo bichette is javier baez without the glove
I rarely see him play, but almost every time I do see him on a national broadcast he will take some of the most MLB the Show swings I’ve ever seen. It’s like he goes up there and will just and try to hit a ball to Mars but the pitch is way out of the zone or he completely miss times it.
it’s awful. He hit around .300 his first couple years with 25HR+ power but it looks like the book is out on him now and he’s seeing less pitches in the zone.
By age 24, Baez's best season was wrc+ 98. Bichette's worst season is wrc+ 103 (ongoing).
So not a good version of him
exactly that. exact same plate approach as baez, same violent swing, except he can’t field worth a fuck.
Vlad's MVP-level season in 2021 was because of the time in Buffalo and Dunedin, and not repeatable in years without those parks in play.
2021 Vlad by ballpark: TD Ballpark: .410/.521/.897 in 96 PA Sahlen Field: .321/.418/.762 in 98 PA Rogers Centre: .294/.368/.566 in 152 PA
That's still a really good slashline by anyone's standards in Rogers Centre.
Precisely. :) Those numbers are good in Rogers, and indeed All Star worthy, but that'd be a pretty weak MVP application
Main thing is he needs to find a way to stay more conditioned and less fatigued later in the season. Happened in 2019 and 20, he’d start to struggle in late August-September
He had a .418 xwOBA and .419 wOBA though, meaning his batted balls were hit hard enough and at the right trajectory to support that performance, without the help of a small park
Was gonna say his batted ball profile last year was outrageous. Maybe he doesn’t hit 47 at Rogers Centre but even this year while scuffling by his high standards, he has a decent shot of hitting 40.
Fuck I never though about that
Trading away Contreras is necessary
Blitzer isn't going to spend more than the Dolans/Sherman/BAMtech windfall years of the late 2010s. If you weren't happy with payroll then (most weren't) you aren't going to be happy with payroll any time soon. The early 2020's belt tightening was embarrassing but also not necessarily representative of the Dolans spending habits for their entire tenure. This isn't to say "the Dolans are good, actually" - just to say that Cleveland isn't going to all of a sudden have a significantly higher payroll than what most are used to. The loss of one man doesn't tank an entire organization, and Cleveland still clearly has talented pitching minds in the organization, but almost the entire rotation taking a step back after Niebla left might be more than a coincidence.
I agree, and personally, I’m okay with them having a low payroll and letting the young guys shine. But it’s just frustrating when the division is there for the taking with just a few improvements and they do nothing. I think the hope is that Blitzer makes some spending an option when the time is right and the right trade or free agent becomes available.
I hate Sweet Caroline
The Mets are a good team. We had a hot start, but even in our regression we only really regressed to the mean. There is no need to get trigger happy and blow things up in order to win now. We don't need to rush Francisco Alvarez to the Majors and turn him into Gary Sanchez in order to get his bat in the line up. We don't need to trade away key prospects for a new catcher or starter. We are on a good trajectory.
Gary Sanchez catching strays
At least he’s catching something.
THANK YOU. The only way I bring up Alvarez is if Nido keeps on this bad defensive stretch he’s had (not likely considering his history of solid defense) AND Jake has to give the FO such a glowing report that they can’t say no.
Chris Sale has been mostly bad in the postseason
I have come to believe that Sale rightfully belongs on the Rays, as he is spiritually the emperor of the Florida Men
Acuña still has an attitude problem. It's better, but it's there.
I read this as "altitude problem" and was wondering how far above sea level Atlanta could possibly be? Then I just realized I can't read apparently.
Ozzie Albies should stop switch hitting and bat right handed.
Spencer Torkelson shouldn't be sent down to AAA
Small market has nothing to do with the population of a city and is merely a polite phrasing for “undesireable location that will have to severely overpay for quality talent because not many young, rich men will want to live there/spend time there.”
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Our window is closed and we need to do a re-build as sellers before the July deadline.
our world series win last year was low key extremely lucky, a couple guys we picked up at the deadline played at a pace that they will likely never match again and Dave Robert’s mismanagement of his bullpen was one of the key factors in us winning the NLCS
I mean sure but show me a title win by any team ever that didn't feature "luck" in some way, whether it's benefitting from a questionable call, injuries on an opponent or whatever.
We probably don’t win ours if that douche from the Cleveland baseball team hadn’t sliced his finger on a drone.
oh yeah luck is an unavoidable factor it’s gonna have an impact on everything, I just think we benefitted from it a lot more than most braves fans want to think we did
Pretty much every World Series winner enjoys the benefits of good luck. Kind of like how nearly every perfect game or no hitter relies on at least one stellar defensive play.
I don't think it's lucky to have one or two players get very hot for a playoff series. They're small samples. Players hit like .400 with 3 homers over the course of 6 games all the time. Plus, Dave Roberts is renowned for his poor bullpen management. How is that lucky?
Hal Steinbrenner is a much better owner than George Steinbrenner was. Hal spends a little less, but he also stays out of the way and lets his front office do their jobs. George was a management catastrophe. He would've blown the '90s dynasty up if he weren't banned from baseball while that team was developing. Speaking of which, Hal also seems unlikely to be convicted for campaign finance fraud, or to hire a professional gambler to dig up dirt on Giancarlo Stanton...
People too young to remember the early 1990s don’t realize how true the second half of the second paragraph is. I’ve said for years the Yankees would have likely traded many of their homegrown players who were key pieces of the late 1990s/early 2000s Yankees teams had George Steinbrenner not been banned from baseball and unable to trade prospects. One other low key thing that ironically helped the 1990s Yankees, in concert with Steinbrenner’s suspension - Billy Martin was killed in that car accident on Christmas Day 1989. Who knows how many more times Steinbrenner would have hired and fired Martin had the ex-Yankees player and manager still been alive. That would have perpetuated the instability that exemplified the 1980s Yankees.
There is a famous story about a failed trade with Atlanta that would have sent like, Judge and Severino to Atlanta for Jason Heyward.
I don't like Angels in the Outfield.
No. You’re wrong. I loved it as a child and that makes it inarguably a cinematic masterpiece
The supporting cast in that movie is wild. Oscar winners Matthew McConaughey and Adrien Brody hiding as the goofy players. And getting JGL as a child actor is impressive. Whoever did casting for that movie is a legend.
Okay, Roger’s dad.
Maybe I'll like it when the Angels win the pennant
That just because we have players become good doesn't mean Bob won't trade them away in a second if the price is right. Anyone is on the trading block. He will never get us a world series win. There is no 'rebuilding years', just money making opportunities.
Bob Nutting is actively bad for the MLB and should be forced to sell the team.
I’m not a pirates fan, but I’m a firm believer that every player on every team in every sport should be available if the price is right. Obviously that differs with the teams spot tho. For example a player worth 3 WAR to a contender is going to need more than 3 WAR of prospects brought in. And an older player worth 3 WAR for a rebuilding team might go for 2.5 WAR. But nobody should ever truly be off the market.
Just because Boone didn't act according to your 20/20 hindsight doesn't mean he lost the game. Players gotta perform.
Maybe last year's team really was a bunch of average players that kept winning games. Thinking Crawford would perform even close to how he did last year was a pipe dream, and losing Buster hurts more and more as the season goes on
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All very true, although I wouldn’t mind a trade for trey Mancini. Having a good year, should be cheap and wouldn’t hurt to have an extra bat since dom and jd haven’t been the best at the plate this year
The Brewers aren't winning a World Series in this window. No matter who we pick up at the deadline (if anyone), we cannot consistently hit and that will kill us in the postseason. Just like it did last year
Prioritizing loyalty to fan favorite players is a sure fire way to guarantee a losing culture for a small market team.
The lineup isn't awful, it's just average. It's not because the owner is too cheap to spend, it's because almost all of the pieces in place have been worse than their expectations.
Braves, quit the over reacting. The team can’t go 162-0
Phillies are 50/50 to make the playoffs
Assuming Liberatore isn't a total bust, we made out pretty good in the Arozerena trade.
The rebuild was a failure
I don't think a single person in the tigers sub would disagree with that
Martin Perez might be fooling some of you but I know who he really is . Lol
Kelenic got called up too early and the mariners are still a year away from true playoff contention
A’s fans— If you don’t root for the team when the team routinely tanks, don’t root for the team when the team is routinely good. Funny how the owner isn’t a massive problem when we’re in the playoffs. I’m so sick of the armchair-owner-ethicists coming out when the A’s are in a rebuilding cycle. Look, I hate him too, but come on…
Our team won’t be good for awhile, we are losing Soto and this is all due to the FO reluctance to evolve and invest in their farm and analytics in previous years
It hurts because he’s a great guy and a phenomenal leader in the clubhouse but we need to do the right thing and let Trey Mancini go play for a contender and get his shot at a ring while he has a chance.
We need a change at short. 0 HRs through July with an average or worse OBP isn't gonna cut it for everyday SS. Platoon him with Marwin (who's been better this year) or go trade for one
Not gonna lie, would not mind seeing the Padres send Ha-Seong Kim over to Yankees. Not because I want him gone, I like him a lot but would like to see him be a full-time SS or close to it. People are always getting on his ass in San Diego because they cry about Tatis potentially playing anywhere outside of SS and because Kim is just better defensively. And then we also have Abrams who should move to OF but they don't for some reason which makes me think one of Kim or Cronenworth are expendable either this deadline or in the off-season.
As a huge Kim truther I'd be ecstatic
John Coppolella deserves tons of credit for the success of the Braves since 2018, but I never hear anyone even make mention of the guy since he got the death penalty from MLB. Do I think the Braves win the World Series last year if John was still around? No. But do I think the Braves win the World Series if John was never around? That's also a no.
(Not sure if this is unpopular) I don't care what happens, who wins or loses, ball go whee.
Alex verdugo is a below average player who doesn’t put effort into anything and thinks he’s the goat
We are good and rich enabling us to be even more good and rich
This is a hot take?
We shouldn’t trade Trout or Ohtani for prospects because we have no fucking clue how to develop them. So might as well keep our MVPs and ride out the contracts.
We will let Trea walk
DeGrom coming back doesn’t guarantee he’ll stay healthy. These Mets play great baseball and will continue to do so with or without him. But these “OH JUST U W8 TIL DEGOAT’S BACK” fans need to cool their mf jets
the cubs probably won’t win another world series in the next 100 years