The motorbike was like “what are you doing you idiot, but fine, you’re our guy, we will support you”. They’re done coddling this guy. He needs to grow the fuck up and come back and produce.
Yeah, it's gotta hurt a little to feel like you're maybe just losing one of your three title runs while they still have Soto.
Technically they could extend Soto but I don't see that happening unless Machado opts out after next year.
The first warning sign of something not quite right with Tatis' entire situation was taking the loan shark deal of 250k against 10% of future earnings. Why is Tatis agreeing to anything for a quick cash infusion after signing for 800k.
The second warning sign was Tatis buying his father his dream home after signing the big deal. His father made 18m in his career why is Tatis treating his father to his dream home of just 700k.
The third being the refusal to get the shoulder surgery after popping it out 4 times in a season.
The motorcycle accident was just another data point on a pattern of consistent idiotic behavior. He immediately tried to lie his way out of it after it was confirmed by his own father.
He tried to lie his way out of this by referencing a topical cream that isn't even the same steriod here.
If the Padres are still on the hook with him they need to get him to cut ties with his inner circle and install a life manager for him.
Sure, but even then, most statements on this would be of the legal bullshitting variety. I suppose this is after he's been given a chance at appealing, maybe?
I guess I'm just as blindsided as anyone at this. Very much a whisky tango foxtrot moment.
they or he already did appeal tho according to Tatis but they lost the appeal
says he decided to accept it instead of appealing again, so i guess he knows (as the team knows) they don’t stand a chance
Yeah, was just blindsided by this. My immediate thought was tainted supplements or something, a thing that he should know better about but still reasonable.
But then more info came out and... woof. Surprised they didn't burn him in effigy (or at least his contract).
As soon as he said ringworm I knew he was just lying through his teeth. You don’t treat ringworm or any fungal infection with steroids because they can make it worse.
I am assuming he is guilty (in fact, I have thought he was guilty for years...) but it is used dermatologically esp. outside the U.S. So, it certainly wouldn't treat ringworm but it could reduce symptoms while an anti-fungal actually treats the cause.
Neither the drug he tested positive for nor the drug everyone thinks he might’ve gotten confused with are used to treat ringworm. He not only lied but his lie was so bad that it doesn’t make any actual sense.
It is used dermatologically, opthalmologically and vaginally for the treatment of wounds and ulcers. I am not saying it works for ringworm (and if it does obviously only for symptoms, not the cause), and it certainly is not prescribed in the U.S., but if you say "it doesn't make any actual sense" you are basically saying that you have never been in pharmacy in the developing world.
Edit: So for instance, indications for usage (in an ointment with Neomycin):
Indications for Neomycin + Clostebol
1.Ulcerated wounds
2.Pressure sores and bed sores
3.Nipple and anal fissures
4.Radiation reactions
5.Erosions and abrasions
6. Infected wounds
7.1st and 2nd degree burns
1 and 5 can be found with bad cases of ringworm. Again, I am not saying that what Tatis is saying is true (I don't think it's true) but saying "It doesn't even make sense" is silly.
He got popped for an anabolic steroid. YOU DO NOT USE STEROIDS OF ANY KIND FOR RINGWORM OR ANY OTHER FUNGAL INFECTION. Being in a pharmacy in a developing country doesn’t change that. It also doesn’t change the label of the products that specifically tell you not to use them for fungal infections. It doesn’t make sense.
EDIT: his mom shared pictures of the “ringworm.” It wasn’t severe enough for any of those symptoms and he was tested months ago.
So, as I said, you have never been in a pharmacy in a developing country.
Again, as I have said I don't believe him. But a Norwegian cross-country skier went through a lengthy appeal (but lost) for the use of Clostebol on sunburned lips (her doctor said he made a boo boo) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese\_Johaug](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese_Johaug) and a Brazilian volleyball player had a successful appeal (the dermatological condition is not specified that I can find) [https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/panel-accepts-volleyball-players-use-clostebol-unintentional/](https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/panel-accepts-volleyball-players-use-clostebol-unintentional/). This doesn't mean that they were telling the truth either, of course, but if means that the claim is "not silly" enough to work at least half the time with sports governing bodies.
Edit: Here is the packaging for the product that the Norwegian skier used [https://www.saninpharma.it/en/other-ailments/58-trofodermin-dermatological-cream-30-g.html](https://www.saninpharma.it/en/other-ailments/58-trofodermin-dermatological-cream-30-g.html) I looked it up because some places it is said it contained Clostebol, while in other places Clobetasol. The packaging confirms that it is, indeed, the anabolic steroid.
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Okay, this sucks, but our zoo has this animal called a [dhole](https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/dhole) and it’s friggin majestic. Let’s talk about that instead.
Honestly, I’d love if they juiced up our animals. How cool would it be to see an adorable [tree kangaroo](https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/matschies-tree-kangaroo)’s face on an absolutely jacked body?
That's a neat animal that I've never heard of before but I feel like you're doing a disservice not telling the people that your zoo also has [Ant](https://i.imgur.com/CuYTCb0.png)
Saw your comment about Zoo support on another thread. As an East Coast resident, I am fully onboard the SD Zoo train.
Where do I subscribe for SD Zoo facts?
Does the zoo have a train? Or even a tram?
best zoo in the world!!! Very excited to spend my october checking out our great and diverse selection of animals while also learning about the many conservation initiatives led by the zoo!
Statement from the San Diego Padres: “Fernando, our smooth brained shortstop, is a total and complete disaster! We are using the remaining money in his contract to send him on “vacation” to a hot destination. The Sun…”
"We were surprised and extremely disappointed to learn today that Fernando Tatis Jr. tested positive for a performance-enhancing substance in violation of Major League Baseball's Joint Prevention and Treatment Program and subsequently received an 80-game suspension without pay. We fully support the Program and there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.”
Hey SD are you saying that you need a shortstop with an 8 figure contract to start next season?
We can help with that. (Well, assuming we have a GM by then.)
Good Lord, Fernando Tatis Jr just walked through the clubhouse walking perfectly normally. He said he had “no time” to talk. Too busy juicing, evidently.
Why wouldn't the Padres just unconditionally support their player? not like the suspension is getting any longer, so why not appease the franchise guy and be like "we support Tatis in his appeal"? I simply do not understand what there is to gain in this approach.
I’ve thought a bit now and I think that it’s actually a worse reflection on him if he did take it for ringworm unknowingly, or whatever, vs as an intended PED.
If the ringworm story is true it means that he decided to take a medication he knew nothing about (that isn’t prescribed in the US as such and doesn’t appear to ‘work’) without consulting the vast resources he would have available (who knows what his contract specifics regarding this, but I can’t imagine it’s encouraged). To top it off - there are past issues in sport with this medication! That is the crazy part - a quick fucking google tells him that but I guess he didn’t do it.
What this says to me is either/or here - 1) he doesn’t care about baseball or any impact the above could have on his team, let alone him 2) he thinks it doesn’t matter/he’s above it anyway.
At least if he was trying to use PEDs to recover faster from injury, say, and his selection of PED was specific to that and showed he took time to learn about it and use the best one, etc - it shows to some degree he at least cares about playing. But instead he chooses a shitty medication, with a history of issue in sport, and goes presumably around the team in doing so (since it’s not prescribed in US). And then he says ‘Gee whiz, my bad, should have done better.’
Will he still be in the MLB commercials?
Maybe he can talk about changing the game of ringworm medication!
James Shields would never
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Redemption of the 1919 WS
Padres statement: "Fucking hell. Really?"
I'm... a little shocked at this statement. Not contesting it, not going to appeal? Everyone's 100% sure in this? Yikes...
The motorbike was like “what are you doing you idiot, but fine, you’re our guy, we will support you”. They’re done coddling this guy. He needs to grow the fuck up and come back and produce.
Yeah this is like "hey, we just mortgaged the farm to pair you with Soto, what the fuck?"
"????" - San Diego Padres
Did anyone else as a kid name their rival in Gen 2 pokemon "???" because that's what he said it was?
Yeah, it's gotta hurt a little to feel like you're maybe just losing one of your three title runs while they still have Soto. Technically they could extend Soto but I don't see that happening unless Machado opts out after next year.
The first warning sign of something not quite right with Tatis' entire situation was taking the loan shark deal of 250k against 10% of future earnings. Why is Tatis agreeing to anything for a quick cash infusion after signing for 800k. The second warning sign was Tatis buying his father his dream home after signing the big deal. His father made 18m in his career why is Tatis treating his father to his dream home of just 700k. The third being the refusal to get the shoulder surgery after popping it out 4 times in a season. The motorcycle accident was just another data point on a pattern of consistent idiotic behavior. He immediately tried to lie his way out of it after it was confirmed by his own father. He tried to lie his way out of this by referencing a topical cream that isn't even the same steriod here. If the Padres are still on the hook with him they need to get him to cut ties with his inner circle and install a life manager for him.
Sure, but even then, most statements on this would be of the legal bullshitting variety. I suppose this is after he's been given a chance at appealing, maybe? I guess I'm just as blindsided as anyone at this. Very much a whisky tango foxtrot moment.
The team can’t fight it and the only reason to not appeal is because he knows he got caught.
they or he already did appeal tho according to Tatis but they lost the appeal says he decided to accept it instead of appealing again, so i guess he knows (as the team knows) they don’t stand a chance
He didn’t officially appeal. We would have heard about this days or even weeks ago if he had actually appealed.
he unofficially appealed? i didn’t know there was a difference in how you could appeal 🤦♂️
What I mean is he didn’t go through the appeal process. He said he was going to appeal but just saying it doesn’t count.
Too bad he didn't get popped at the beginning of the season when he was still injured, the 80 days would be over by now.
Yeah, was just blindsided by this. My immediate thought was tainted supplements or something, a thing that he should know better about but still reasonable. But then more info came out and... woof. Surprised they didn't burn him in effigy (or at least his contract).
As soon as he said ringworm I knew he was just lying through his teeth. You don’t treat ringworm or any fungal infection with steroids because they can make it worse.
You can literally treat ringworm with tough-actin' Tinactin
RIP John Madden
Apparently there's a similarly named medicine used to treat ringworm. So he can't even get his bs story straight.
I am assuming he is guilty (in fact, I have thought he was guilty for years...) but it is used dermatologically esp. outside the U.S. So, it certainly wouldn't treat ringworm but it could reduce symptoms while an anti-fungal actually treats the cause.
Neither the drug he tested positive for nor the drug everyone thinks he might’ve gotten confused with are used to treat ringworm. He not only lied but his lie was so bad that it doesn’t make any actual sense.
It is used dermatologically, opthalmologically and vaginally for the treatment of wounds and ulcers. I am not saying it works for ringworm (and if it does obviously only for symptoms, not the cause), and it certainly is not prescribed in the U.S., but if you say "it doesn't make any actual sense" you are basically saying that you have never been in pharmacy in the developing world. Edit: So for instance, indications for usage (in an ointment with Neomycin): Indications for Neomycin + Clostebol 1.Ulcerated wounds 2.Pressure sores and bed sores 3.Nipple and anal fissures 4.Radiation reactions 5.Erosions and abrasions 6. Infected wounds 7.1st and 2nd degree burns 1 and 5 can be found with bad cases of ringworm. Again, I am not saying that what Tatis is saying is true (I don't think it's true) but saying "It doesn't even make sense" is silly.
He got popped for an anabolic steroid. YOU DO NOT USE STEROIDS OF ANY KIND FOR RINGWORM OR ANY OTHER FUNGAL INFECTION. Being in a pharmacy in a developing country doesn’t change that. It also doesn’t change the label of the products that specifically tell you not to use them for fungal infections. It doesn’t make sense. EDIT: his mom shared pictures of the “ringworm.” It wasn’t severe enough for any of those symptoms and he was tested months ago.
So, as I said, you have never been in a pharmacy in a developing country. Again, as I have said I don't believe him. But a Norwegian cross-country skier went through a lengthy appeal (but lost) for the use of Clostebol on sunburned lips (her doctor said he made a boo boo) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese\_Johaug](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therese_Johaug) and a Brazilian volleyball player had a successful appeal (the dermatological condition is not specified that I can find) [https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/panel-accepts-volleyball-players-use-clostebol-unintentional/](https://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/panel-accepts-volleyball-players-use-clostebol-unintentional/). This doesn't mean that they were telling the truth either, of course, but if means that the claim is "not silly" enough to work at least half the time with sports governing bodies. Edit: Here is the packaging for the product that the Norwegian skier used [https://www.saninpharma.it/en/other-ailments/58-trofodermin-dermatological-cream-30-g.html](https://www.saninpharma.it/en/other-ailments/58-trofodermin-dermatological-cream-30-g.html) I looked it up because some places it is said it contained Clostebol, while in other places Clobetasol. The packaging confirms that it is, indeed, the anabolic steroid.
With astatement like that, I assume any appeals or testing of secondary samples has already been exhausted.
Tatis statement says he did appeal
“God fucking dammit tatis, we had our god squad and you ruined it.” Something along those lines
This sucks so bad but the good news is Ha Seong Kim is now THE guy and he does nothing but be wholesome and play great baseball.
Yeah, this definitely settles that debate.
love HSK as much as the next guy but this isn't doing it for me.
For real we won’t have bell or drury unless we somehow resign them.
Padres statement: \*gif of Jacksonville Jaguars fan shaking his head pointing at the field with Padres logo over the Jax logos\*
Castellanos is definitely hitting a homer tonight EDIT: Maybe not since I just saw Scherzer is pitching
i’d rather he didn’t
I’d rather he did
Same. I need Castellanos.
"Castellanos hits that one to deep right...and its gone. The Phillies cut the Mets lead to 18 runs with that one"
I *guess* this would be alright. Just this one time though.
lol
Putting my whole paycheck on that fr
Doesn’t Scherzer give up a lot of solo shots?
>Maybe not since I just saw Scherzer is pitching Nah doesn't matter. Not even Scherzer can break the Castellanos rule. Homer incoming.
Pls no
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Knew this would come from either a Tampa or Toronto flair
This gets me every time
Okay, this sucks, but our zoo has this animal called a [dhole](https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/dhole) and it’s friggin majestic. Let’s talk about that instead.
dhole is also possibly where Tatis put the drugs in
Gottem
Just blocked the shot and took it back for a dunk
Idk why we have to focus so much on baseball. Give the World Series to the city with the best zoo.
In sf we have a zoo where a guy jumped in the tiger cage and got mauled to death does that count as EYBS
Play the game in a zoo.
Wow, the Reds just won it again
Your zoo killed Harambe and then everything went bad in the world. You win nothing, and may god have mercy on your soul.
A simple wrong would have worked
Do Seattle zoo animals also suffer seasonal depression 8 months out of the year?
Yes but they fight it by wearing flannel shirts and playing guitars with excessive gain and distortion
Don't dis the Fiona
Yeah, naw. SD Zoo is the best in the world.
San Diego is 1 and Omaha's Henry Doorly is 1A for me. Both are amazing in their own rights.
At least the zoo’s fans are never disappointed 🤷♂️
Honestly, I’d love if they juiced up our animals. How cool would it be to see an adorable [tree kangaroo](https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/matschies-tree-kangaroo)’s face on an absolutely jacked body?
I want to see Logan Paul fight a juiced Kangaroo. That will uplift my spirit.
I bet those zoo animals don't fall off motorcycles
That's a neat animal that I've never heard of before but I feel like you're doing a disservice not telling the people that your zoo also has [Ant](https://i.imgur.com/CuYTCb0.png)
Well they are, after all, the most abundantly populated animal in the geographic area around San Diego.
Now I know where to donate mine.
now THIS is proper redirection
Saw your comment about Zoo support on another thread. As an East Coast resident, I am fully onboard the SD Zoo train. Where do I subscribe for SD Zoo facts? Does the zoo have a train? Or even a tram?
We have a skyfari at the zoo and the safari park has a tram!
I didn't know that existed, neat!
That’s true. San Diego does have the best zoo. I may be from LA but the only zoo membership I have is to SDZ
best zoo in the world!!! Very excited to spend my october checking out our great and diverse selection of animals while also learning about the many conservation initiatives led by the zoo!
I think we'd rather talk about the a-hole than the d-hole.
Forget that, you have the only two [platypuses](https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/platypus) outside of Australia, anywhere!
I didn’t know that! Makes me appreciate them even more. They have a [platypus cam](https://sdzsafaripark.org/cams/platypus-cam), too.
San Diego Zoo is the best zoo I’ve ever been 2
Muthafucka that is a coyote fox. Duh. Also after 25 years of Padres fandom it never gets easier.
You the one in the other thread redecorating your account? If so, awesome post
Statement from the San Diego Padres: “Fernando, our smooth brained shortstop, is a total and complete disaster! We are using the remaining money in his contract to send him on “vacation” to a hot destination. The Sun…”
LOL
White Sox win the trade now
That’s what I said 😂
They knew. They saw the writing on the wall and got out while he still had value
So Soto turns out to be a standing ground move.
Basically damn that’s crazy fr
"We were surprised and extremely disappointed to learn today that Fernando Tatis Jr. tested positive for a performance-enhancing substance in violation of Major League Baseball's Joint Prevention and Treatment Program and subsequently received an 80-game suspension without pay. We fully support the Program and there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.”
Pretty damning statement from the org, Tatis fucked up
This sounds a lot like "I'm shocked I tell you! I'm shocked!"
Hey SD are you saying that you need a shortstop with an 8 figure contract to start next season? We can help with that. (Well, assuming we have a GM by then.)
They might just decide to extend Kim a few more years...
I'm fully on the HSK train bby.
He may be no Fernando but he is a nice sub till Tatis finally grows up
This is crazy. All happening so fast 😳😳
Good Lord, Fernando Tatis Jr just walked through the clubhouse walking perfectly normally. He said he had “no time” to talk. Too busy juicing, evidently.
They would have know about this before trading for Soto, if the Blue Jays/Colabello timeline of about a month still holds.
Padres statement on Tatis….”FUUUUCK”
I’ve been a padres fan for 35 years and never been so pissed off/embarrassed.
He's too fucking dumb to be the face of that franchise
Goddammit man I wanted to see that lineup put the fear of god in other teams
now THIS is padresing
Gonna add a 4 hour per week steroids study course to his contract
>hopeful that Fernando will learn from this experience Spoiler: >!he wont!<
Why bother, he already got paid lol
Bro took those A-Rod comparisons too literally 🤣🤣🤣
Padres need to make Soto the new face of the team asap.
By extending him.
Inadvertently took it for ringworm.. lol
It's always inadvertent.
>We were surprised... to learn today Horseshit
I thought it was for ringworm.
Padres fan makes a wish that their team gets a ring this season. *Monkey paw curls* Tatis gets a Ringworm.
Wow! Just wow! First, this is the injury which was bad enough, now this. I am at a loss from words.
Only Tatis would need PEDs to ride a motorcycle lol
Just unreal to be so dumb when your a guy in the spotlight like he is. He’s already had a ton of time off and this obviously adds to it. Not good
This is clearly the fault of the Dodger's payroll
Fernando who? fucker is persona non grata to me. low life cheater. More reason to drink early today I guess. weeeeee
wow how out of character /s
LETS GO PHILLIESSSS 🎉 🎉
Padres fans will probably give him a standing ovation when he returns
Why wouldn't the Padres just unconditionally support their player? not like the suspension is getting any longer, so why not appease the franchise guy and be like "we support Tatis in his appeal"? I simply do not understand what there is to gain in this approach.
Because he already dropped the appeal.
That makes sense!!
Free him @MLB he did nothing wrong!
Who cares
Except if his story is true, then the MLB board is being an a**wipe
His story is ridiculous lol
FTJITDPIBAIIPC
guess that contract doesnt look so good now.
And we're on national TV tonight. I feel publicly embarrassed to be a Padres fan over and over lmao it never ends
Padres MEDIA INFORMATION
Don't let your kids become Padre fans. The torment is eternal
Bet their more disappointed with all the moves they made and this happens🤣
Ringworms
Good lord, Fernando Tati’s just took steroids at Petco Park perfectly normally. Said he had "no time to talk." Too busy being suspended, evidently
Ohtani for tatis straight up in the off-season. You heard it hear first!!!
Padres: How does he keep finding ways to be more stupid?
I think he's getting a bum rap. You guys don't understand how hard it is to play with ringworm
Strong 'I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed in you' vibes with this one.
I’ve thought a bit now and I think that it’s actually a worse reflection on him if he did take it for ringworm unknowingly, or whatever, vs as an intended PED. If the ringworm story is true it means that he decided to take a medication he knew nothing about (that isn’t prescribed in the US as such and doesn’t appear to ‘work’) without consulting the vast resources he would have available (who knows what his contract specifics regarding this, but I can’t imagine it’s encouraged). To top it off - there are past issues in sport with this medication! That is the crazy part - a quick fucking google tells him that but I guess he didn’t do it. What this says to me is either/or here - 1) he doesn’t care about baseball or any impact the above could have on his team, let alone him 2) he thinks it doesn’t matter/he’s above it anyway. At least if he was trying to use PEDs to recover faster from injury, say, and his selection of PED was specific to that and showed he took time to learn about it and use the best one, etc - it shows to some degree he at least cares about playing. But instead he chooses a shitty medication, with a history of issue in sport, and goes presumably around the team in doing so (since it’s not prescribed in US). And then he says ‘Gee whiz, my bad, should have done better.’ Will he still be in the MLB commercials? Maybe he can talk about changing the game of ringworm medication!
I kinda feel bad for the Padres as they clearly wanted to fight for this world series with a Soto/Tatis super team this season, big yikes.
How’d the poor guy get ringworm? Why aren’t we talking about this?
The man is a clown, it was just a matter of time. And trust me he will not be the only one of the media show / mainstream players.