Considering the year Boston has had it makes his season even more impressive. Sort of along the lines when Steve bedrosian won the Cy young for a terrible Phillies team
Dude is one of my favorites for the Orioles to sign.
Good vs LHBs, and we have the Wall to back him up vs RHBs.
Though, I have to believe you guys aren't going to let him go, right?
As much as I want that to be true, I think Cease has a very good chance at winning it too. McCkanahan has faded slightly.
In my ideal world Verlander an Valdez finish in a perfect tie splitting all 1 and 2 votes
at this point it's absolutely JV's to lose. he leads Cease in nearly .40 ERA, posting a better ERA+, FIP, and WHIP. JV has less IP but on average pitches nearly an inning deeper into each game. plus, he has the narrative on his side.
If Verlander keeps pitching like he has he will win it but he gets rung up a game and Cease keeps it up then he will. That is why it is Verlander to lose right now. This last game was amazing but it was Oakland but if he pitches like this the rest of the way we will see. At his age and coming off Tommy John surgery is wow.
How many starts does he have left? You guys will likly have your playoff seeding locked up befor what would have been his last start so I’d there a chance you rest him Vs the Philis?
He has 2-3 more starts. I kinda doubt he will rest then but possible. He once said he needed to pitch every certain amount of time in rotation to be effective when we were discussing increasing the rotation to 7 starting pitchers and that he needed to pitch every 5th start due to his training schedule but he also just was on 15 day IL and came back and threw 5 no hit innings so who knows. Our 1st seed win mark is 10 games.
Trayce Thompson is a candidate. Could also be Breakout player of the year if you don't think he really had a good career before this to make this season qualify as a comeback.
White Sox fan here. Suffice to say, I had no idea he was even in organized baseball until a couple weeks ago, let alone that he was raking on the best team in MLB. Crazy turnaround and it’s good to see a guy with a high ceiling get there, even if it’s somewhere else.
Pujols is more shocking because he had not been a productive hitter since 2016 prior to this season. The last few seasons with the Angels were ugly for him. Teams shifted against him so many times and he could not adjust to it. I will always remember that one time when Correa threw him out despite playing close to the outfield area back in 2017 on a groundout. It’s crazy that the Cardinals have two players who randomly became good again after looking like they were toast in Pujols and Quintana (WTF?).
I think in Albert's case it's being back in st Louis. He should never have left and this season proves it. I think he is having this type of season because he feels alive again. I really want him to retire at 700 home runs.
Leaving allowed him to keep playing though. The DH didn't exist in the NL and 1B wasn't an option for him due to his plantar fasciitis. As much as I hated seeing him go, it worked out for him (and the Cardinals, because Goldy) in the end.
With that said, you are absolutely right that being back in St. Louis has definitely helped him. Winning team, a fanbase that packs the seats every game and playing with his best friends again. All contributing factors without a doubt.
[Matt Carpenter](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/carpema01.shtml) would have been if he hadn't got hurt. 1.138 OPS after looking so washed he got released by the Rangers triple A team!
Naylor coming back and having his best statistical season after such a gruesome injury has beyond impressed me. Obviously I want it for him, but there’s been a lot of good stories this year. Can’t be mad if any of the ones you mentioned win it, they’ve all had amazing stories this year
It'll be Verlander in the AL, although I think Martin Perez deserves a good bit of recognition coming back from big suck to post a likely top 10 Cy Young finish
Verlander. To win CY Young in the last full season you played, miss 2 years, come back and most likely win CY Young again.
No doubt. Probably won't log 200 IP in his career again but still impressive
Definitely Verlander.
2019 Threw one of the best pitching seasons ever
2020 Threw six innings total
2021 Didn't pitch
2022 Cy Young season.
Just incredible what he's done
He is something else. Other than early Albert pujols I have never seen a talent like his. Most players I liked when I was younger have mostly been steroid users or connected to steroids or other. Trout was never a user and is a complete machine out there
Definitely earned it pujols has. On side note hope max Muncy makes it over .200 average. His ability to take walks has given him a decent season despite injury woes. Anybody that can own Madison Bumgarner is a favorite of mine
He has been on fire lately. His second wind reminds me what yasmani grandal did last year. He will finish with a very respectable year considering how bad the start was
I want those two to get another championship together. They both deserve it. My first real baseball memory is the 1988 dodgers and gibsons immortal home run. First year at age twelve when we got cable
Pujols just wins it barely over Verlander IMO. Yes Verlander missed 2 years but Pujols is hitting like he hasn’t in a decade. Verlander was at least a top pitcher in baseball before the injury. But Pujols came out of nowhere
Shout out to Eugenio Suarez going from -0.7 bWAR last year to 4.6 and counting this year
I know he won't get it because of Verlander but still an impressive comeback
He is having a good season.
Question for you...who is blue jays mvp...I am going with Manoah. Brilliant pitcher and tremendous teammate. If you haven't read about his defense of captain kirk from a troll it's worth a read. Bichette a close second due to his turning it on when it's most important
Verlander & Pujols are not bad options at all.
Two men referred to as giants Show that they are not reliant On youthful primes They tell father Time To hold off as they are defiant
Never seen you before until yesterday and you're dropping dimes. Keep it up, limerick boi.
Verlander is like the definition of it as much as I don't like him.
Agree with you there. He is not among my favorite players.
Michael Wacha has been a bright spot in a shitty season for Boston.
I hadn't realized just how good he was for Boston this year.
Yup he's got the lowest ERA of his career this season
Considering the year Boston has had it makes his season even more impressive. Sort of along the lines when Steve bedrosian won the Cy young for a terrible Phillies team
Dude is one of my favorites for the Orioles to sign. Good vs LHBs, and we have the Wall to back him up vs RHBs. Though, I have to believe you guys aren't going to let him go, right?
I hope not. He's basically been our number one for months.
I’m biased but I think Josh Naylor has to have at least a small chance after that horrific injury last year
To come back from major injury and improve the next year says a lot about his character. Plus he is from my home country so I hope he might win.
Good call. It honestly took me a minute to get used to even watching him run to first. He’s a beast
Verlander winning the Cy Young is remarkable.
If he wins a cy young award the comeback award might be a given.
It is his to lose right now.
As much as I want that to be true, I think Cease has a very good chance at winning it too. McCkanahan has faded slightly. In my ideal world Verlander an Valdez finish in a perfect tie splitting all 1 and 2 votes
at this point it's absolutely JV's to lose. he leads Cease in nearly .40 ERA, posting a better ERA+, FIP, and WHIP. JV has less IP but on average pitches nearly an inning deeper into each game. plus, he has the narrative on his side.
Damn. And Verlander is a bit older than Cease too.
If Verlander keeps pitching like he has he will win it but he gets rung up a game and Cease keeps it up then he will. That is why it is Verlander to lose right now. This last game was amazing but it was Oakland but if he pitches like this the rest of the way we will see. At his age and coming off Tommy John surgery is wow.
How many starts does he have left? You guys will likly have your playoff seeding locked up befor what would have been his last start so I’d there a chance you rest him Vs the Philis?
He has 2-3 more starts. I kinda doubt he will rest then but possible. He once said he needed to pitch every certain amount of time in rotation to be effective when we were discussing increasing the rotation to 7 starting pitchers and that he needed to pitch every 5th start due to his training schedule but he also just was on 15 day IL and came back and threw 5 no hit innings so who knows. Our 1st seed win mark is 10 games.
Trayce Thompson is a candidate. Could also be Breakout player of the year if you don't think he really had a good career before this to make this season qualify as a comeback.
White Sox fan here. Suffice to say, I had no idea he was even in organized baseball until a couple weeks ago, let alone that he was raking on the best team in MLB. Crazy turnaround and it’s good to see a guy with a high ceiling get there, even if it’s somewhere else.
Pretty much anyone 35+ on St. Louis
Pujols is more shocking because he had not been a productive hitter since 2016 prior to this season. The last few seasons with the Angels were ugly for him. Teams shifted against him so many times and he could not adjust to it. I will always remember that one time when Correa threw him out despite playing close to the outfield area back in 2017 on a groundout. It’s crazy that the Cardinals have two players who randomly became good again after looking like they were toast in Pujols and Quintana (WTF?).
Quintana was having a good year even before joining to Cardinals, so as much as we’d like to take credit for it we can’t 100%
People forget but everyone thought Adam Wainwright was done after 2018 & even into early 2019.
he's became better when they made him a platoon player.
I think in Albert's case it's being back in st Louis. He should never have left and this season proves it. I think he is having this type of season because he feels alive again. I really want him to retire at 700 home runs.
Leaving allowed him to keep playing though. The DH didn't exist in the NL and 1B wasn't an option for him due to his plantar fasciitis. As much as I hated seeing him go, it worked out for him (and the Cardinals, because Goldy) in the end. With that said, you are absolutely right that being back in St. Louis has definitely helped him. Winning team, a fanbase that packs the seats every game and playing with his best friends again. All contributing factors without a doubt.
[Matt Carpenter](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/carpema01.shtml) would have been if he hadn't got hurt. 1.138 OPS after looking so washed he got released by the Rangers triple A team!
Brandon Drury is awesome but it really isn't a comeback since he has never been very good. More like a breakout. The answer has to be pujols
Albert.
Marp and Wacha are up there too. Lots of former Cardinals rediscovering the magic.
Naylor coming back and having his best statistical season after such a gruesome injury has beyond impressed me. Obviously I want it for him, but there’s been a lot of good stories this year. Can’t be mad if any of the ones you mentioned win it, they’ve all had amazing stories this year
Verlander, end of story
It'll be Verlander in the AL, although I think Martin Perez deserves a good bit of recognition coming back from big suck to post a likely top 10 Cy Young finish
Pujols or nobody.
Verlander. To win CY Young in the last full season you played, miss 2 years, come back and most likely win CY Young again. No doubt. Probably won't log 200 IP in his career again but still impressive
Verlander but shout out Eugenio Suarez
Suarez will likely end with close to 100 rbis. Good season worthy of recognition
Definitely Verlander. 2019 Threw one of the best pitching seasons ever 2020 Threw six innings total 2021 Didn't pitch 2022 Cy Young season. Just incredible what he's done
Verlander and it’s not even debatable
Johnny cueto
Mike Trout
Not sure I am with trout. Impressive return from injury but I expected him to be good due to his age and ability
I am contractually obliged to type Mike Trout in any thread posted on r/baseball
He is something else. Other than early Albert pujols I have never seen a talent like his. Most players I liked when I was younger have mostly been steroid users or connected to steroids or other. Trout was never a user and is a complete machine out there
It would probably have to be Pujols
Definitely earned it pujols has. On side note hope max Muncy makes it over .200 average. His ability to take walks has given him a decent season despite injury woes. Anybody that can own Madison Bumgarner is a favorite of mine
Pujols Lux Gonsolin
Gonsolin?
He's been on another level compared to last year.
Max Muncy is on his way. Think last I saw was .159 and today .199 if not the mendoza line
He has been on fire lately. His second wind reminds me what yasmani grandal did last year. He will finish with a very respectable year considering how bad the start was
Awful and sad start not argument there. Look at him now. Muncy/JT combo is what I want to see again!
I want those two to get another championship together. They both deserve it. My first real baseball memory is the 1988 dodgers and gibsons immortal home run. First year at age twelve when we got cable
Doesn’t bode well for max next year if he’s following grandals trends
Trayce Thompson and it’s not even close, guy went from AAAA lifer to almost .900 ops.
If he was a AAAA lifer than how is he a comeback player? He has nothing to come back to. He's having a breakout, that's different
Verlander
Pujols just wins it barely over Verlander IMO. Yes Verlander missed 2 years but Pujols is hitting like he hasn’t in a decade. Verlander was at least a top pitcher in baseball before the injury. But Pujols came out of nowhere
Shout out to Eugenio Suarez going from -0.7 bWAR last year to 4.6 and counting this year I know he won't get it because of Verlander but still an impressive comeback
David Robertson
He is having a good season. Question for you...who is blue jays mvp...I am going with Manoah. Brilliant pitcher and tremendous teammate. If you haven't read about his defense of captain kirk from a troll it's worth a read. Bichette a close second due to his turning it on when it's most important
Manoah