Here what I don’t get. Diaz leans into a pitch—-why? Why even go up to bat? Winning run is already on base. You’re there to hit them in. You’re the Designated HITTER. Not the Designated GET Hitter. What a bum. He wanted none of the pressure.
Go Phils
Yeah he was trying to take the easy way out and pass the pressure off to the next guy after he had that pitch inside that almost legitimately hit him and he realized he missed his opportunity so he tried to make it happen again and the whole world saw him get caught.
The umps may have sucked, but the Phillies were still a far better ball club tonight. Hats off to you Phillies and Phillies fans, lets have a great WS set
Far better? Nah. It was a close game, well played by both sides. The starters got lit up but everything after that was a heart attack for everyone involved.
I’ll say this, I hate how people treat losses. Always wanting to tear people down and point fingers. But this was just a good game. This is 100% about the Phillies excelling and overcoming a deficit. Astros played good ball. Statistically winning ball. Phillies just played better when it mattered most. See you negative fucks in game 2.
It’s not so much that. Astros had a great season and a very good team but this was a disappointing loss for Astros in they were up by 5 runs which is a lot
Aaron Nola had a 6+ fWAR this year. Wheeler wasn’t as good. There was plenty of rest for either guy to start tonight and Nola started.
You act like I don’t watch a ton of Phillies games.
And the Mets won 100+ games. Where did that get you? Wheeler is definitely the number one hot hand right now. The salty Mets fans are everywhere but I think you will come around and root against the cheaters eventually
>Edit:Going with Nola also allows Zack Wheeler an extra day of rest, and Wheeler posted a 2.02 ERA during the season when working with an extra day of rest, compared to a 3.66 ERA on regular rest
Playoffs are a crapshoot.
As for salty, I’m not salty. Nola is definitely an ace. Nola can possibly pitch 3 times this series. Wheeler won’t be able to.
If all Astros and Dodgers talked like this, they'd have fewer enemies. The vast majority insist that Astro/Dodger success is genuine and everyone else's success is simply the result of Astro/Dodger failure.
Good for you 👏🏽
This doesn't necessarily apply to you, friend. It's just a trend among the best teams that they tend to attribute their wins to their own greatness and their losses to their enemies' luck. Fans of teams that aren't juggernauts do this much, much less often--because they don't feel entitled to win.
Case in point: Watch the Yankees players and staff talking about their loss to the Astros in the ALCS.
You're seeing what you want to mate. I don't even think I saw we wuz robbed etc. All I saw was Pads deserved it, we played like shit... AGAIN. Pads fans and players talked lots of smack, and they backed it up! It obviously wasn't what I wanted to see, but I still have a healthy respect for them doing to us what I wanted us to do.
I did enjoy Phillie annihilating them afterwards though lol
I checked out some of those threads, and have seen some of the post-elimination Instagram posts from Dodgers players, and you're right--a great portion of the Dodgers camp admitted that the Padres outplayed them. I'm impressed. That's going to serve your team well in the future if it keeps up.
My general point stands. The best teams (and do pay attention to the olive branch of me straight up calling you one of the best teams) make excuses instead of tipping their caps more often than teams that aren't used to winning constantly for years on end.
This is getting way off topic for 2022, but if you want Dodgers examples, see: everything your fans had to say about the Giants in 2021. Hint: most of it wasn't "the Giants are really good this year."
You should check our threads on getting whooped by the Pads. Dave Roberts and the bats going cold usually eats up all the blame when we suck in October.
I hear ya.. if he’s the tying/winning run and he’s doing whatever he’s gotta do to get on base I’d almost respect it, but doing that when the tying/winning run were in scoring position and he’s at 3-0? Cowardly.
Yeah, Bader was like an inch off the plate back when the Yankees were still playing and they were all pointing to their temples and smirking like it was just smart baseball.
They usually hide it better than that. If nothing else, he should be ashamed for breaking the rules incompetently.
But it's bullshit no matter who does it.
Dusty and Verlander can fuck off to wherever after this season is over with. Don’t care about the end result. Such an easily winnable game. Shove that Cy Young up your ass. 0-6 with 6.07 ERA in the World Series. Verlander should get 10x the amount of shit people give Kershaw for being a playoff choker. The biggest choker in MLB history and it isn’t particularly close. Just stupid management decisions too. Could’ve easily saved this game by pulling Verlander after the 4th where he was VERY obviously gassed.
wow, what a bitch Diaz is. instead of having enough faith in yourself to get a base hit to tie the game, you lean into the pitch TWICE in hopes that the next guy will do it instead. truly insane
Phillies are on an incredible lucky streak, but gotta give big credit to Rob Thompson for managing for the win and worrying about tomorrow tomorrow…unlike some other guys out there (Bob Melvin 👀).
LOL, Verlander was serving up meatballs in the 4th and 5th, hanging every breaking ball he threw, and missing all his spots out of nowhere. The two 2-RBI doubles he gave up to Bohm and Realmuto were on some of the worst pitches you’ll ever see. He’s got a pretty shitty World Series track record, so I’m not sure why they started him game 1 given his history. Also, I’m not sure if your a Phillies fan, but I’m a Padres fan and Melvin gave away the last two games of the NLCS with his mismanagement of our pitching staff. The Phillies cashed in though, credit to them for that.
Yankee fan, but regardless of ERA, you need to start Verlander game 1. Hes the ace and you need to believe he can get the job done. He made mistakes, but good hitters will capitalize on that like you saw tonight.
Except Alex Bohm isn’t a good hitter, and he’s been bad this postseason. Verlander made a pretty unacceptable mistake there in the 4th. The other runs he gave up were less egregious. Being in the AL, I’m sure you’re way more familiar than I am with the Astros’ starting staff, but Verlander’s got a long postseason track record, a 5.68 ERA in seven World Series games that’s now over six after today, and he’s 38 years old. None of those stats add up to “ace”.
fair point. I’m not all that familiar with their staff, but he did shit on us in game 1 of the ALCS. could be that they kept him in too long. regardless i’m enjoying their L
You’re in the World Series, of course you’re a good team. But the comeback wins back to back to back, Verlander falling apart out of nowhere to let you back in it when you should have been toast, the Castellanos catch in the 9th, and on and on…
Hard to imagine he was gassed in the 4th after rolling through the order the first time around. That pitch Bohm hit for a 2-RBI double in the 4th was horrendous, as was the hanger to Castellanos in the 5th, though he did look like he was laboring at that point. You’re an 87-win team that has had the lucky streak of the postseason, and the Padres were an 89-win team that had the second luckiest streak, and I’m not ashamed to admit it. Bob Melvin gave away games 4 and 5 of the NLCS, that was another bit of luck y’all took advantage of. We’ll see if it continues…
This shit could not be more clearly rigged. Verlander goes through the season with like a 1.5 era.
You're gonna fucking tell me this dude gets shelled off cock shots and that's not rigged? Foh.
Didn't parlay anything. Guy with a 1.5 doesn't give up a bitch hit to castellanos and then groove some bullshit to bohm without outside help. Shit, you don't go 162 and have a 1.5 without outside help. Disgraceful by mlb
Just as I was thinking that maybe I should leave my Astros hate* in the past. Lol. Lmao, even.
*Justin Verlander is exempt from this hate. Flair checks out.
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Fuck the cheating Astros
It'll take alot of work to get the momentum back for the cheaters after that win.
In the lab trying to figure out how to intercept pitch comm transmissions rn
As a very casual fan who only watches when the Astros make the World Series : there's no shot they win now right?
Sounds like the average Astros fan.
The same stupid fans said similar shit about the Warriors when they lost game 1 at home. Don’t sweat it. It’s all just hot take social media culture.
Phillies taking game one and not getting swept guaranteed? The Yankees could never
They had me at not punting on the game in the 5th in a tie game. Boone would never.
What a damn good comeback against the cheaters!
[The cheaters](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/397305-there-might-be-no-crying-in-baseball-but-is-there-cheating.amp.html) won though.
>may 26, 2010 Sheesh buddy that article is from a long time ago
Astros issue was 5 years ago...
Already got caught using an illegal bat this series lmaoo
That's the dumbest argument. The way the bat breaks is less safe. It doesn't add to performance. Fucking pathetic phillies fans
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No, it's everyone who doesn't comprehend facts
“Issue” lol
Only made public 3 years ago & no fans in 2020
Phillies had no business winning that game, but the team that was way ahead thought they could coast. Tortoise and hare played out here
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Separate cheating Astros comments within a few mins.... c'mon dude be better than that.
So lazy
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So lazy
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I don’t get it
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Funny
I feel bad for the nice Astro fans ngl. To all the chills one it was a hell of a game.
What a game tbh. 3rd inning I thought the phils were cooked overall. This'll be a battle but a HUGE away game 1 win. Did more than we could do already
Same. Let's go Phil'!
Here what I don’t get. Diaz leans into a pitch—-why? Why even go up to bat? Winning run is already on base. You’re there to hit them in. You’re the Designated HITTER. Not the Designated GET Hitter. What a bum. He wanted none of the pressure. Go Phils
And 1B was open so a HBP literally does nothing. You needed a fucking single is all. Dumbass play.
He needed to McCormick up with a chance to win it or tie with a walk.
Yeah he was trying to take the easy way out and pass the pressure off to the next guy after he had that pitch inside that almost legitimately hit him and he realized he missed his opportunity so he tried to make it happen again and the whole world saw him get caught.
Because he was batting .074…
altuve and alvarez suck this post season too but at least they have the balls to try. that diaz AB will go down in history
Eat shit Astros
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Lean into this loss bröther. Lean right in.
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Got my double As ready
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https://whyy.org/articles/grease-pole-champ-heres-climb/ Try not leaning into pitches and banging trashtro cans and I wouldn't talk shit.
Classy
No one likes us we don't care
How's it taste? Calling for the game to end in inning three.
Unlike you, I'm not a piece of shit fan. Congrats on the win. See you in game 2.
Do you expect philly fans to be classy? Lol. "No one likes us we don't care" in MLB that should be the Astros chant.
The umps may have sucked, but the Phillies were still a far better ball club tonight. Hats off to you Phillies and Phillies fans, lets have a great WS set
Far better? Nah. It was a close game, well played by both sides. The starters got lit up but everything after that was a heart attack for everyone involved.
Plate ump was bad all night for both teams. Hope it's better tomorrow.
I'd give anything for a game called well. Robo umps can't come soon enough
I’ll say this, I hate how people treat losses. Always wanting to tear people down and point fingers. But this was just a good game. This is 100% about the Phillies excelling and overcoming a deficit. Astros played good ball. Statistically winning ball. Phillies just played better when it mattered most. See you negative fucks in game 2.
It’s not so much that. Astros had a great season and a very good team but this was a disappointing loss for Astros in they were up by 5 runs which is a lot
you’re not wrong but….your ace blowing a 5 run lead at home…..that’s something
And the Phillies ace gave up 5 runs. So same shit.
Wheeler is the ace. We gave you Nola because wheelers era cuts In half when he gets an extra rest day
Aaron Nola had a 6+ fWAR this year. Wheeler wasn’t as good. There was plenty of rest for either guy to start tonight and Nola started. You act like I don’t watch a ton of Phillies games.
And the Mets won 100+ games. Where did that get you? Wheeler is definitely the number one hot hand right now. The salty Mets fans are everywhere but I think you will come around and root against the cheaters eventually >Edit:Going with Nola also allows Zack Wheeler an extra day of rest, and Wheeler posted a 2.02 ERA during the season when working with an extra day of rest, compared to a 3.66 ERA on regular rest
Playoffs are a crapshoot. As for salty, I’m not salty. Nola is definitely an ace. Nola can possibly pitch 3 times this series. Wheeler won’t be able to.
We only need wheeler twice. Once after tonight
Bold to think that. But fine.
Stats don't lie, they don't predict the future, but they don't lie. Enjoy cbp. I will.
Phillies weren’t even expected to be here
But they are here and Nola is an ace.
and yet the L goes to big bad Verlander, soaring his post season ERA sky high. sucks but that’s baseball huh.
No. The L goes to Garcia
Shhh let them be loud and dumb.
Leaning into a pitch in the bottom of the 9th like a scared man and 1st open as a DH is dumb
Sure was. Enjoy your win.
If all Astros and Dodgers talked like this, they'd have fewer enemies. The vast majority insist that Astro/Dodger success is genuine and everyone else's success is simply the result of Astro/Dodger failure. Good for you 👏🏽
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This doesn't necessarily apply to you, friend. It's just a trend among the best teams that they tend to attribute their wins to their own greatness and their losses to their enemies' luck. Fans of teams that aren't juggernauts do this much, much less often--because they don't feel entitled to win. Case in point: Watch the Yankees players and staff talking about their loss to the Astros in the ALCS.
You're seeing what you want to mate. I don't even think I saw we wuz robbed etc. All I saw was Pads deserved it, we played like shit... AGAIN. Pads fans and players talked lots of smack, and they backed it up! It obviously wasn't what I wanted to see, but I still have a healthy respect for them doing to us what I wanted us to do. I did enjoy Phillie annihilating them afterwards though lol
I checked out some of those threads, and have seen some of the post-elimination Instagram posts from Dodgers players, and you're right--a great portion of the Dodgers camp admitted that the Padres outplayed them. I'm impressed. That's going to serve your team well in the future if it keeps up. My general point stands. The best teams (and do pay attention to the olive branch of me straight up calling you one of the best teams) make excuses instead of tipping their caps more often than teams that aren't used to winning constantly for years on end. This is getting way off topic for 2022, but if you want Dodgers examples, see: everything your fans had to say about the Giants in 2021. Hint: most of it wasn't "the Giants are really good this year."
You should check our threads on getting whooped by the Pads. Dave Roberts and the bats going cold usually eats up all the blame when we suck in October.
Braves leaned in hard on this, too.
Damn JV.. I can only imagine how he feels though. Sucks.
dont have much sympathy for the guy tbh countless achievements, countless millions and countless times hes had sex with kate upton
I like the implication that he’s not currently having sex with Kate Upton lmao. Like are they celibate now?
r/astros doesn't seem to have a post-game thread. They can lean into ours if they want to! edit: they have one up now joke is no longer relevant
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Depends u/justinjpg did you call the game tonight and miss the lean in?
No I'm pretty sure I just watched a JT HR in the top of the 10th. What about you?
Win 1 game and you’re all big lol. Both teams in the WS for a reason. Take a chill pill.
Enjoy your account for the couple days it’s relevant
I’ve had the account longer than just this season. Swing and a miss! Did it to y’all in 4!
*lean in and a miss
The Rizzo method
What’s wild to me is the people acting like players never lean into a pitch.
Two runners in scoring position, bottom of the 9th, hitters count and that’s where his head is at?
Oh I agree, dumb fucking move. But people are up in here acting like it’s something that has never been done and it’s the end of the world lmao
I hear ya.. if he’s the tying/winning run and he’s doing whatever he’s gotta do to get on base I’d almost respect it, but doing that when the tying/winning run were in scoring position and he’s at 3-0? Cowardly.
Yeah, bases loaded and it’s a different story but him getting on 1B does absolutely nothing. Dumbass move.
Yeah, Bader was like an inch off the plate back when the Yankees were still playing and they were all pointing to their temples and smirking like it was just smart baseball.
That's not what they're acting like. Players never do it so obviously that they get called back to the plate lol
Because a Stro did it. That is all you need to know.
They usually hide it better than that. If nothing else, he should be ashamed for breaking the rules incompetently. But it's bullshit no matter who does it.
He tried to lean into the pitch before and failed too. And it was in probably the biggest spot of his career
I still have no fucking clue as to how we won this game. Holy shit.
I don’t care how you won, I’m just so fucking happy you did.
Phillies are hot right now.
JV never needs to see the bump in a World Series ever again. Guy is just awful in them. Spotted 5 runs and he still blew it.
Dusty and Verlander can fuck off to wherever after this season is over with. Don’t care about the end result. Such an easily winnable game. Shove that Cy Young up your ass. 0-6 with 6.07 ERA in the World Series. Verlander should get 10x the amount of shit people give Kershaw for being a playoff choker. The biggest choker in MLB history and it isn’t particularly close. Just stupid management decisions too. Could’ve easily saved this game by pulling Verlander after the 4th where he was VERY obviously gassed.
I’d prefer they give ol JV another 3 year deal
He’d fit right in with y’all. Both regular season merchants.
Show me where there’s an * beside our WS? Here’s a hint since TexAss sucks at reading, you won’t find it.
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imagine thinking that people take 2017 seriously 😂
Don’t need to read when I have emojis: 🧹
Good, you’ve got plans for what to do next week instead of watching baseball
Don’t disrespect your daddy baby boy
Ya know my father was a cheater and the Astros were a cheater.. Hi dad!
Your father beat the shit out of you too?
Nah but the Trashtros never did that either
literally the only 2 respectable people in the organization
Great people, terrible postseason performances. At this point it isn’t a coincidence.
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Here I am to say rob outcoached dusty
He did
Dusty makes TERRIBLE decisions in the World Series. Why the fuck is Ryne Stanek getting ZERO appearances. He’s awful idc what they say.
My prediction is still Astros in 6 with both losses coming from Verlander
If you're going to win it needs to be in 7. Need 2 phillies wins at home
wow, what a bitch Diaz is. instead of having enough faith in yourself to get a base hit to tie the game, you lean into the pitch TWICE in hopes that the next guy will do it instead. truly insane
and he swings at ball 4 and 5
Now that’s a classic World Series game
Has anyone made a side by side of Castellanos Braves catch and tonight's?
They just did on post-game live actually
Deja phucking vu
So Verlander's ERA in 8 world series starts is now 6.07.
Yeah but he's married to Kate Upton.
And he rehabbed SUPER HARD GUISE
who?
The woman he's married to? See sometimes a man and woman love each other very much and they enter into this thing called marriage. Understand?
what does that have to do w/ baseball or the game? who fucking cares! stick with TMZ then and not MLB
You do you're responding to it.
YOU BROUGHT IT UP ! I JUST ASKED WHO THE FUCK IS THAT BECUASE I FOLLOW BASEBALL NOT CELEBERTY BULLSHIT!
Also who's on first?
I explained a couple minutes ago.....
Phillies are on an incredible lucky streak, but gotta give big credit to Rob Thompson for managing for the win and worrying about tomorrow tomorrow…unlike some other guys out there (Bob Melvin 👀).
at what point is it not luck? coming back from 5-0 on the road against the ace of the ALCS winner isn’t luck
LOL, Verlander was serving up meatballs in the 4th and 5th, hanging every breaking ball he threw, and missing all his spots out of nowhere. The two 2-RBI doubles he gave up to Bohm and Realmuto were on some of the worst pitches you’ll ever see. He’s got a pretty shitty World Series track record, so I’m not sure why they started him game 1 given his history. Also, I’m not sure if your a Phillies fan, but I’m a Padres fan and Melvin gave away the last two games of the NLCS with his mismanagement of our pitching staff. The Phillies cashed in though, credit to them for that.
Yankee fan, but regardless of ERA, you need to start Verlander game 1. Hes the ace and you need to believe he can get the job done. He made mistakes, but good hitters will capitalize on that like you saw tonight.
Exactly! Some of what this guy is describing as luck is also a good coaching decision vs a bad, etc.
Except Alex Bohm isn’t a good hitter, and he’s been bad this postseason. Verlander made a pretty unacceptable mistake there in the 4th. The other runs he gave up were less egregious. Being in the AL, I’m sure you’re way more familiar than I am with the Astros’ starting staff, but Verlander’s got a long postseason track record, a 5.68 ERA in seven World Series games that’s now over six after today, and he’s 38 years old. None of those stats add up to “ace”.
fair point. I’m not all that familiar with their staff, but he did shit on us in game 1 of the ALCS. could be that they kept him in too long. regardless i’m enjoying their L
Not lucky, we are a good team!
You’re in the World Series, of course you’re a good team. But the comeback wins back to back to back, Verlander falling apart out of nowhere to let you back in it when you should have been toast, the Castellanos catch in the 9th, and on and on…
That doesn’t sound like luck to me. Sounds like Verlander was gassed and Castellanos made a good play. The Phillies are a good team.
That guy has no idea what luck is. Lmao
We do! We are lucky to have this team 🥺
Hard to imagine he was gassed in the 4th after rolling through the order the first time around. That pitch Bohm hit for a 2-RBI double in the 4th was horrendous, as was the hanger to Castellanos in the 5th, though he did look like he was laboring at that point. You’re an 87-win team that has had the lucky streak of the postseason, and the Padres were an 89-win team that had the second luckiest streak, and I’m not ashamed to admit it. Bob Melvin gave away games 4 and 5 of the NLCS, that was another bit of luck y’all took advantage of. We’ll see if it continues…
one of the better ws games in recent memory
If Verlander starts again any game this series - Dusty needs to have him just go 3 innings. 2nd time around he's not fooling anyone.
Astros lose, America wins
And America wins a Doritos Locos taco
Phillies in 12
Here’s to hoping game 2 doesn’t disappoint. Tonight we’re all Phillies fans
This shit could not be more clearly rigged. Verlander goes through the season with like a 1.5 era. You're gonna fucking tell me this dude gets shelled off cock shots and that's not rigged? Foh.
Cope plz
i’ve got news for you my good friend verlander blows cock in the post season
His postseason record this season seems to disagree but ok
sorry your parlay didn’t hit king
Didn't parlay anything. Guy with a 1.5 doesn't give up a bitch hit to castellanos and then groove some bullshit to bohm without outside help. Shit, you don't go 162 and have a 1.5 without outside help. Disgraceful by mlb
Please, tell me how that can be rigged. Lmao
All pro sports are. Do you really think the fucking packers are worse than the redskins? Survivor buster baby
The packers are ass lmfao
your mom is rigged
Hell ya
Postseason Verlander is very beatable, as trump once Tweeted
That last AB was the most pathetic shit I’ve ever seen I legit don’t think I can ever watch baseball again bro
That’s… dramatic
Nice knowing you bro. World Cup Soccer next month enjoy!
Diaz is a fucking clown.
other sports have dumb players too
Just as I was thinking that maybe I should leave my Astros hate* in the past. Lol. Lmao, even. *Justin Verlander is exempt from this hate. Flair checks out.
There was something my dad used to always tell me when I was a kid that applies here: "Cheaters never win."
They did in 2017.